Lenovo’s Legion Pro 5i (2023) Has a Problem…
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Lenovo’s new Legion Pro 5i is a decent gaming laptop, but it’s got a problem.. Last year’s version was a great option, and it’s much cheaper, so is the new 2023 model worth it?
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Lenovo Legion Pro 5i (2023) Review Timestamps:
0:00 There’s a Problem…
0:15 Video Sponsor - Gigabyte
0:55 Design & Build Quality
1:18 Size & Weight
1:44 Laptop Specs
2:01 Camera & Microphones
2:14 Keyboard, RGB Lighting & Touchpad
2:48 Ports & Type-C Charge Problem
4:13 Getting Inside & Internals
4:45 Wi-Fi & SSD Speed
5:02 Upgrade Options
5:27 Memory Speed Differences
5:52 Speakers & Latencymon
6:11 Battery Saving Features
6:51 Battery Life
7:16 Cooling Design, Thermal Modes & OC
8:05 Software Bug
8:24 Power Button Performance Modes
8:40 More Possible Software Problems?
8:52 Enabling CPU OC
9:05 Furmark GPU Stress Test Experiment Explained
9:49 Temperatures / Clock Speed / TDP
11:01 Game Performance in Different Modes
11:15 Cinebench CPU Performance (On & Off Battery)
12:12 Keyboard Temperatures
12:46 Fan Noise
13:33 Screen, MUX Switch & Advanced Optimus
14:00 Screen (Brightness/Gamut)
14:18 Screen Response Time & Latency
15:11 Screen Backlight Bleed
15:18 3 Game Comparison (1440p & 1080p)
16:45 3DMark & Content Creation
17:35 BIOS
17:51 Linux Support
18:10 Pricing, Availability & Laptop Deals
18:52 2022 Model Cheaper & Still Good?
19:24 RTX 4070 Worth It Over 3070 Ti?
19:51 Want 4080 or 4090? Have To Go 7i
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@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Check Legion Pro 5i Prices: geni.us/legion-pro-5i Check current gaming laptop sales at gaminglaptop.deals Update to 8:40 I don't think this is a problem anymore, we haven't had it on any laptops for months now, some update must have resolved it.
@D1n75 Рік тому
Kind sir! If you could do a review on the Stealth 16 studio, would be really appreciated. As always, thanks for your efforts! Great work!
@TECHNICALDOCKS Рік тому
Hey Jarrod, Are you going to review Asus Scar 16 too? I'm confused between scar 16 & 18 for thermals, performance and display. A comparison video would also be amazing. Thanks 😊
@user-qt6qe2vd1q Рік тому
Dunno how do you feel about it, but I think that reviewers should opt more for not buying this year laptops (and GPUs), it's the only way consumers can influence manufactures. I got really disappointed with news that 4070ti is selling pretty well :( And 4070 this year is a peace of garbage, almost same performance as 3070ti, but 30% higher price ... I've got 2 years ago my rog G513QM with qhd display (of better quality than those that they put today in new laptops), 5900hx, 3060 for 1350eur. Today for almost 10% more performance I should pay 20% more (4060)... that's ridiculous, that is an real degradation... That made me to buy an PS5 and just cancel my plan to update my laptop, I'll keep mine for R6 Siege, but most probably next laptop will be no more than a typing machine.
@herzbreakerz5479 Рік тому
Hi From Thailand mate, Could you review Asus Strix Scar 17 2023 ?
@TechGuyBeau Рік тому
I just dropped a review on the amd variant with 4070. My reviews aren’t as good as Jarrod’s obviously, but also very in depth. I hope it helps people
@FBI-qd1wk Рік тому
I originally bought the Legion 5i Pro this year for $2300 with RTX 4070, I returned it after I saw the price of the 7i Pro with the RTX 4080 from this year being $2400 with discounts included.
@jimmyrichards5595 Рік тому
The FBI should be ABOLISHED
@StormClaws7 Рік тому
You can return a bought laptop? Is that common?
@FBI-qd1wk Рік тому
@@StormClaws7 yeah I think so.
@mk3tsi Рік тому
@@StormClaws7 Only in murica I guess
@RazielXT Рік тому
@@mk3tsi No way, in EU its law to allow returning without questions for at least 2 weeks. I returned plenty of laptops
@Hubwood Рік тому
Hey Jarrod, could you check about the "undervolting" in the Vantage Software? I think it only allows POSITIVE voltage changes. And not NEGATIVE (undervolting) changes! Cheers. (I tried Undervolting the Laptop (13500HX + RTX 4050 Version) with Throttlestop (No Effect) and XTU (Not possible).
@CLFFRDChong Рік тому
You will need to disable "Undervolt protection" in the BIOS to undervolt.
@Hubwood Рік тому
@@CLFFRDChong nope that won't allow undervolting either. Not in Lenovo vantage, not in XTU and not with throttle stop. (the voltage changes in throttle stop have absolutely no effect to the cpu on my legion 5 pro)
@albertputra6220 Рік тому
@@Hubwood Hi Hubwood, Those on reddit with 7i pro 13900hx managed to undervolt their cpu, not sure if mistakenly locked with i5 HX series Btw, do you plan on making review with base 5 pro 13500hx and 4050 you are using? Is there any difference between the heatsink size and cooling performance compare to higher spec 5 pro, i9 and rtx 4060-4070? There are no reviews yet with that variant, im sure the community will appreaciate for the full review Thanks again
@Hubwood Рік тому
@@albertputra6220 hey Albert, hm maybe it's possible with the 7i then 🤔 yes I will defenitely review this. I hope I will be done this Sunday or Monday.
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Yeah only positive for me, I didn't try the BIOS thing suggested above though.
@RaxCrow Рік тому
So I quite literally have your same configuration to a T. I was able to get a couple discounts and netted it with taxes at $1,937. It arrives this Thursday so hopefully no issues with it. Thank you for this review I was really waiting to see it before buying it but I got lucky with them discounts lol.
@harrikangur Рік тому
The gen 8 Legion Slim's got listed on psref yesterday. Hoping to see reviews soon after they arrive to stores.
@paulodamiao5540 Рік тому
Do you know when you will get the AMD version @JarrodsTech? I'm quite interested in the CPU comparison
@baosonnguyen9968 Рік тому
Always have so much details and tests and number and i love it. Thank you❤. Keep up the good work g
@qubansailor Рік тому
Love your videos Jarrod! Any chance you could make a video showing settings for what you would do in Lenovo advance bios. Ie overclocking and tdp settings. Thank you.
@win5402 11 місяців тому
Hello Jarrod! I’ve been watching your videos every time i wanted to buy a laptop. Your reviews were my dealbreaker, just wanted to ask for you opinion. Currently, I’m torn in choosing between Legion 7 w/ AMD 9 5900HX/RTX 3080(Cheaper) and Legion Slim 7i w/ I9 13thgen/RTX 4070. Which would you pick?
@antalpoti Рік тому
Finally the review I have been waiting for! Thanks, Jarrod!
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
No problem, thanks for watching!
@shawnjohn5756 Рік тому
Hey Jarrod,love your videos and I've recently bought a Max-p 3060,is there any way possible for you to show on how to make use of dynamic boost?
@HDRPC Рік тому
Sir is there any issues with power setting in Windows where we can configure max and minimum CPU performance on battery or plugged in? Single core score are very low. Si
@saturnotaku Рік тому
Excellent news about Lenovo adding automatic refresh rate switching when the laptop is plugged/unplugged.
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Yeah!
@martinchou1 Рік тому
I feel quite blessed to own Legion 7 2021 model. The new models put the build quality to bare minimum...
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Nice! Hope it's going well
@cameronbosch1213 Рік тому
Yeah, my Legion 7 2022 has far better build quality than any of the 2023 Legion 5 Pro or 7 Pro models!
@Inc0gnit045 Рік тому
@@cameronbosch1213 you're really blessed to have it, it's been a week I'm searching for it and couldn't find it instead the 4060/4070 is available
@Jrfeimst2 Рік тому
I think they tried to cheap out on parts here and there and less features to try and offset the ridiculous price Nvidia is charging for these GPUs. Very sad.
@darrell9616 Рік тому
I have a 2021 model as well and see no reason to buy the new one. The 2022 model was the sweat spot. If I could get a deal on a 2022 3080 model, I'd take a strong look.
@apexdota2147 10 місяців тому
Hi, thanks for video is was very helpful. I was wondering is there anyway custom keyboard RGB without using vantage? I tried FN+space but it was not what I wanted.
@tobfon2416 7 місяців тому
hi, my display seems darker when i have only dgpu activated especially when HDR is activated. Ist there a workaround? i have the 240hz 500 nits display. Thank you.
@khmayu2377 Рік тому
Great review as always. This laptop is currently 1.9K usd on the site you provide above. When it come to my country the price will be at least 2.8K. Well, even last year most 3070Ti laptop on my country is still around 2.3K usd currently, and that was a "discount" price.
@InsidePlay2023 10 місяців тому
Exactly! That's the consequences of living in a F-ed up 3rd world country! I live in Iran! Thieves are ruling this country. F them!
@rin_blank5830 10 місяців тому
Wtf
@hanspeterqwe6620 2 місяці тому
Which country is that?
@Zroud Рік тому
Hey! Great video. I just bought the 3070ti 2022 version of this laptop. I'm new to the higher generation of laptops. You mentioned tuning the overclock? What does that mean/ how would I do that? Also how do I make sure I'm running the max watts to my gpu?
@kartikkaushik9811 Рік тому
Awesome review as always! Would love to see a review of the new Alienware laptops like the M16
@whisper7484 Рік тому
Great video as usually. It seems that from marketing Lenovo thought if they add "pro" word in naming, that means that it must cost more. Comparison of lenovo 5 & 7 pros should be interesting as maybe it worth to take base 7th version rather than taking top 5th.
@greebj Рік тому
I reckon it's more they cut stuff out to keep prices down for the 4080/4090 models. NVIDIA have no competition in high end mobile and they never miss an opportunity to price gouge OEMs, AIBs or consumers
@furnitureandbedding776 4 місяці тому
Hey Jarrod. Serious question. What laptop would offer max performance in quiet mode or a super quiet balanced mode?
@DaveBudness 5 місяців тому
Wonder if its worth getting Lenovo - Legion Slim 7i 16.. granted that version has i9 but how much are you leaving on the floor with an i9? Or, an i7 is perfect
@YourAverageCommentator 5 місяців тому
You can fit the m.2 drive. The “bending” is completely normal as it allows you to insert the drive at an angle with ease. Trust me, it wont break anything in the laptop.
@happydays7517 Рік тому
Would definitely appreciate a 7i 5i comparison in the near future ...
@veerapraneeth 9 місяців тому
Hi @JarrodsTech, I'm looking at a 2022 rtx 3070 which is almost same price as rtx 4060 2023, which one to pick here ? Also does intel/amd processors matter ? I see amd versions push more power to gpu. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
@drb3na110 Рік тому
Whats the best choice between legion 5 pro 4070 and rog m16 with 4070 (non miniled)configuration? Its difficult to choice
@Pond721 Рік тому
As someone buying this for mainly an office laptop for I.T. work, I see this as one of the best value options possible. Business laptops are terribly priced for their specs. The gaming performance is a bonus and for £1,700 this does the job as well as I'll probably find. I was actually planning on getting the slim 5i, however I'm not sure that allows for a second SSD to be installed.
@richardr3511 10 місяців тому
I bought it for the same reason and love the better video quality and find it so much faster then the thinkpad. I just wish it had a fingerprint reader for security
@andreasb.4549 9 місяців тому
@@richardr3511 Fingerprint would be really great and a proper USB Dock.
@az9az9az9 8 місяців тому
The only downside on Legion laptops is the keyboard. I often hit 2 keys same time, especially the numpad. Although i would still pick legion over thinkpad.
@gozinator_btw 8 місяців тому
@@az9az9az9Is Thinkpad good for gaming in 2023?
@paulolourenco4859 Рік тому
Hi Jarrod great video! Can you make a video explaning why 1% lows in rtx 40 series are so bad in some games? Thanks
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
I'm not sure of the reason yet, I am reaching out to my contacts though to see if they have any answers.
@hemendraravi4787 9 місяців тому
@@JarrodsTechIs Legion 5 gen 8 good ? 500 nits 240 hz 32gb Ram gddr5 Ryzen 7 7745hx Rtx 4060 8gb 1TB For 1800-2000$ In my country the prices wary a lot (India) n 4070 legion costs 2500$ but with 16gb ram , more cost with nits n hz upgrades but has i7 13th gen or i9 13th gen for 2600$ , do I go with 4060 itself ? I don't think 600$ is worth it for 15% fps. I'm going for legion as it has good temperature.
@CarlosManuelF 8 місяців тому
Do yo recommend pro 7i with 13900hx and 4070 or pro 5i with 13700hx and the same graphic card is better?
@sohamsen9729 Рік тому
Hey Jarrod have been a subscriber for a long time ⏲ ⏳. In my Asus scar 16 mini LED model I am seeing that while scrolling through youtube home page the screen brightness in the blank grey area goes up and down according to the scrolling rate. This is not present in single zone mode and only present in the multi zone mode. Is it normal or I am having a display issue? Please reply and thanks in advance.
@RobertTowell Рік тому
It would be nice to see a test on a normal i5 or i7 to see how computers with CPUs perform versus ones with CPU+GPU or with AMD how a APU compares to a CPU+GPU.
@sleepy77790 Рік тому
its seems no point to upgrade from 30 series to 40 , i rather playing stable average fps than high and drop
@tuliotuttut5308 Рік тому
My friend said that too, there's 0 point to upgrade form 30series to 40series and should wait for new future of Card also with the new FSR 3.0 upcoming release am pretty sure gonna stick with 30s for fews more years
@loowick4074 Рік тому
A good 3060 or 3070 laptop will set you up for atleast 3 years. Maybe even more if you are the guy who doesn't care about shanking your settings. BUT I am dubious at game companies these days trying too offload their work in optimisation to GPUs too Brute force. "Oh .. you have 8gb vram? Lemme use all of it for medium textures"
@tuliotuttut5308 Рік тому
@@loowick4074 i have Legion 2021 3060 and all i need it just run games... Thats it i dont care 30 40 fps
@flat_stickproductions209 Рік тому
It's driver issues, all 40 series have weird issues right now, but so did 30 series at launch.
@sathirawickramatunga Рік тому
@@tuliotuttut5308 I also have the 2021 but I feel like if we had the option to switch refresh rate with the shortcut key it would be better. I don't want anything else and I would be satisfied. And also the option to customize fan speed (Custom Mode in newer models)
@maxsimes Рік тому
thanks for the rewiew, imo youre one of the best to do reviews on gaming laptops on youtube. It would be nice if you could give your opinion on all features you cover relative to other laptops features you covered. For instance, you said the speakers sound fine, nothing amazing. On your legion 7 pro 2023 you said the speakers sound good. But how do they compare? How do they compare from the 5i 2023 to the 5i 2022?
@jym4712 Рік тому
Looking if I should get this with i5-13500hx with rtx 4050 or go with the rog strix g15 with ryzen 9-6900 and rtx 3060. What would be the better choice?
@shauryasuri3653 Рік тому
we really need a video comparing last years and this years laptops to find out if it is a good idea to get a 2023 or 2022 model and which laptop out of them to get. last years g15, legion are the best for the average user imo but thos year it looks like a downgrade for both
@priyeshrana 6 місяців тому
Yes, they even removed thunderbolt support on Legion this year
@jawadhasan9102 Рік тому
do you think the voltage limit on the 4050, 60 and 70 will be increased sometime in the future with a bios or software update? (talking about the laptops not reaching their full 140w in games)
@greebj Рік тому
No. Long answer, nope. Usually on mobile it's locked down short of crazy hard modding, which nobody does on laptops anymore bc of the risk (cost of entire motherboard replacement) and rewards being so minimal (headroom is not there thermally/power delivery to make it worthwhile).
@pranavdupati9164 Рік тому
U cannot, unless u undervolt
@wielkanocnyropuchzemsty9322 8 місяців тому
Hi, I have lenovo 5 based on Ryzen 7 (4800H) and GTX 1660Ti (driver ver. 536.67) under win11 and have black screen issue too. It comes when I work on Premiere Pro with prores footage using some alpha channels *.mov layouts. When I turned GTX off (from app manager) Premiere runs on integrated GPU and no crash detected. I think it's a nVidia problem (maybe overheating or power management).
@bradleycochran4595 Рік тому
Jarrod, I love your channel and the reviews you have done. Do you have any thoughts about the Corsair Voyager, it is nearly a $1000 less than the launch price?
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
I never covered it, so don't have any info on it, but if I recall, reviews weren't great last year, but at a cheaper price that might matter less.
@bradleycochran4595 Рік тому
@@JarrodsTech Thank you.
@sinisterwastaken2729 11 місяців тому
i have a question there are two variants of the lenovo legion pro 5i one that has wqxga and the other one with wqhd . i mainly play video games so which variant should i get . is there only the display differences or any other difference between the two variants
@willwunsche6940 Рік тому
Got my brother the last year model 6800H 3070Ti 1440p165hz for only $1300 I am super impressed and happy with it. I think I got him the right one! It's an absolute beast
@watercannonscollaboration2281 Рік тому
Kinda weird that for the 2nd year the 5 Pro doesn’t feature at least a fingerprint reader. I think the Legion 7s finally get that option, but formerly only the Slim 7 had it
@Howlfeather Рік тому
7 series got it last year, but this year's ''Pro'' 7 series removed it.
@matt-be8lc 4 місяці тому
Funny, my $600 HP from 12 years ago had a fingerprint reader. Lol.
@pietro8648 9 місяців тому
if i have to do game development and genral coding, should I get the 2023 or the 2022 model? the 2023 model with 4070 is around 1600€ with student discount on lenovo website
@ikuma8291 9 місяців тому
How do I read the Puget systems davinchi resolve test chart? is there some correlation to the numbers like over X score can edit 4k clips?
@_fiftyseven_ 10 місяців тому
For some reason, the last year's Legion 5 Pro with an RTX 3070 Ti is going for higher than a i7 + 4070 Legion Pro 5i. So I think it makes more sense to get the Pro 5i against the 5 Pro. I do want to know about the quality control and overall experience on the Pro 5i if anyone owns one so thank you in advance.
@rogerbarnett8412 8 місяців тому
I have one, but haven't had it for long or used it for anything much besides some photo editing. So far, it is great, and it scored about 12,500 in Performance Test 11. That's close to what my PC's 5950x/3080Ti scored! It's the top model with 32 gb ram, 13900HX and RTX 4070. $1569 at B&H
@Andrew_bestie 6 місяців тому
@@rogerbarnett8412is that the one with the i7
@Fingerfootball21 2 місяці тому
@@rogerbarnett8412 yep, just picked this Legion Pro 5i up with i9/4070/32gb DDR5 and it's a beast. $1499 at B&H now, so it's on a killer deal now too.
@reaper7910 Рік тому
Jarrod, can you also check out the AI engine on the Pro 5 and Pro 7? Other youtube reviews have mentioned that it analyzes the game you play overtime and adjusts the power and whatnot to give the best performance. Perhaps you can give us a more detailed info on that since you are the most detailed laptop reviewer Also, is the Acer Helios 16 review coming out soon? It's the only one in my country that has my needs and there aren't many detailed reviews on it :(
@user-jt8xw6fd1v Рік тому
I only get low temperatures / fan noise when turning off turbo mode using Trottlestop, and running the computer in silent mode. Do you have a better solution? It would be good to be able to keep turbo mode on, but limit how hard the CPU is pushed in turbo mode, but I was unable to do this using Throttlestop. My wife has a 2022 Legion 5 Pro i5/16/1024/3060 and I have a 2022 Legion 5 Pro i7/16/1024/3070 and we both have the same problem (and we actually get about the same FPS in-game, surprisingly enough). Thanks in advance!
@bushrahmohammadi2439 11 місяців тому
I bought this laptop legion 5i pro Intel core i7 gen 8. The promlem is that the charge last 2hour and 40minute on time saver mode. And about 1 hour and 20 minutes on balanced With our using dgpu. Does the problem is with my laptop or at all same laptops?
@andrianridhariawan Рік тому
i think Lenovo didn't upgrade anything on Legion 2023 series, except CPU,GPU,cooling system and refresh rate in Legion pro 7i, even the port is downgraded from thunderbolt to normal type c
@bfish9700 Рік тому
$2000 for a 4070 is robbery.
@themangobui1474 Рік тому
I got mine for 3000 not kidding.
@aaz1992 Рік тому
Which is a rebranded 4060 😂
@Myaseen321 Рік тому
Buy it please then I will rob u😂
@aaz1992 Рік тому
@@themangobui1474 bro I bought an Aorus 17H with 4080 for $1990. What are you smoking? Go return it
@daansukano Рік тому
um i would say 3000€ which is 3200$ is robbery in France 😂 for a 4070 - i9 😂😂
@Aygcgegduwabai 2 місяці тому
Hello, i just bought this pro 5i i9 4070 32gb. But my keyboard rgb can’t be turn off or dimm. My vantage also doenst have spectrum. 😢 is my model busted? Do i need to return it?
@ryuske_edits Рік тому
Hi! Can you please help me choose between these two: - asus tuf a15 ryzen 7 6800h rtx 3060 (140w) 16GB ddr5 - hp omen 15 ryzen 7 5800h rtx 3070 32GB ddr4
@mehmedsamirs Рік тому
Just got my 7745HX and Rtx 4070, upgraded from 5800H and 3070. Say what you want, my games run soooo much smoother now honestly.
@fidelcrisis 3 місяці тому
you needed to upgrade so soon?
@theman2449 5 місяців тому
I recently bought the legion 5i with the i9 13th gen with a 4060, off an early Black Friday sale from Costco, I’m hoping this performance will be comparable since it was a pretty cheap price.
@sergiobogado2702 5 місяців тому
Cuanto te costó? Hay una lenovo Legion Pro 5i con i9 13th con 4070 y 16 de RAM, un precio de 1550 $, lo recomiendas??
@doc_verma 8 місяців тому
Lenovo Legion Pro 5i 16" WQXGA - 13th gen i7 with 16GB - RTX 4070 is available in approx 1600 USD at my place, do you recommend it? or is there better option at this price? kindly suggest.
@viliambena6767 Рік тому
Lenovo was amazing with price around 1200 eur for rtx 2060 or 3060 , bur with legion 7 4080 costing here 3500 eur and strix 16 4080 costing 2500 eur or scar 16 3500 eur with mini led display..
@abematey9786 11 місяців тому
In Australia 4000 series laptops are actually cheaper than 3000 series for some reason and 4000 laptops can go on sale. I recently bought my pro 5i with 4070 32gb ram for 2.8kAUD (1.8k USD) which is good price here.
@hemendraravi4787 9 місяців тому
did u get i7-13700hx o i7-13900hx ? is the 60$ upgrade for i9 worth it or is 17 13th enough for gaming ? (im asking for same model but im gonna go for 4060 version as its asking 250$ for 4070 upgrade) n already its 2000$ with 4060 here.
@abematey9786 9 місяців тому
@@hemendraravi4787 I got the 13700hx with my unit. i7 is always more than enough for gaming but hey if it’s only $60 difference to get the i9 then I reckon go for i9. But other than that, i7 is plenty enough. If anything else the 4060 might bottleneck the i9. So if your purpose is to game, I might as well spend a bit more and get 4070 and stick with i7.
@gabrielcastro4446 8 місяців тому
Jarrods, can I upgrade this laptop with t700 ssd gen5 ?
@SuckMeSideways322 Рік тому
Hey Jarrod, have you ever thought about making a video on battery life for different screens? Like ips vs oled vs mini-led?
@Bass-xg3tt 11 місяців тому
13900 HX or 7945HX with legion pro 5? which is the best ? can you do a comparison please on the legion 5 pro?
@chrisbullock6477 9 місяців тому
Curious if the AMD 2023 version with the 7745HX/4070 will be reviewed? Would be interesting to see the battery savings and performance difference for the pricing.
@vanisyn2495 9 місяців тому
I ordered this one yesterday, then cancelled it because I saw multiple reports online of the 7745HX hitting 105C and thermal throttling in the pro 5
@az9az9az9 8 місяців тому
If you limit the 7745HX max power to 85W, it will sit around 67c. It will loose only 200-300 points from Cinebench R23.
@Darkhoof Рік тому
Pity you never managed to benchmark a 2022 5 Pro with the RTX 3070. I really wanted to see the generational change in the Legions from 3070 to 4070, since it uses the 150W 3070.
@legacylegacy2603 11 місяців тому
40%performance difference
@ghost1998sparta Рік тому
will Acer provide you with a review unit for the helios 16 or 18 ? i hope you will review them soon , also may i ask you should i get a 17" laptop as i always carry my 15" laptop to work daily and for the past 7+ years never switched to a 17" ..
@user-hr5yc1rg8j 5 місяців тому
is there any difference between the legion pro 5i and the legion Pro 5 16IRX8 shown at the end of the video?
@catalyst429 7 місяців тому
this guy will throw an R in any word he can 😂
@alaukiktandlekar114 Рік тому
For music production people, I observed that 2023 model has less single core performance compared to 2022 model as shown in this video. So, I would recommend to go with i7-12700H legion 5i pro model (2022) for music production.
@ruslankhuseyn5224 9 місяців тому
Thank you for your reply. I am doing post production in Pro Tools with bunch of plugins. Do you think legion 13700hx will be enough (there are some nice deals right now) Or should I go with legion 13900hx? Thanks again for your comment
@alaukiktandlekar114 9 місяців тому
@@ruslankhuseyn5224 I would suggest you to go with pc instead of laptop because your job is very heavy.
@ruslankhuseyn5224 9 місяців тому
@@alaukiktandlekar114 Thank you! I guess you're right!
@Jubidar Місяць тому
Music production can be done on 4-core processor without any issues. It utilizes multi core work.
@alaukiktandlekar114 Місяць тому
@@Jubidar i watched youtube videos and they told that it utilizes single core performance
@rilandb7936 7 місяців тому
Can't afford this yet, is the i7-12700h rtx 3060 variant still a nice buy this 2023?
@randompotato6095 Рік тому
If you can find the information, could you give some advice on legion 5 (ryzen 7, 4060) vs machnike L16 pro (i9, 4070)? bcos they are the same price in singapore but the machenike has much better hardware. This will be my first gaming laptop so i’m unsure if machenike is reliable
@michalnowacki1489 Рік тому
Still rocking my 5 Pro 2021 with 3070m and 5800H, I added a second 2TB SSD to it and upgraded to 32GB RAM as some games are becoming quite hungry (looking at you, Last of Us). Thank you Jarrod for keeping us informed!
@boppernostopper8598 Рік тому
So you hardly use it? None of these have performance that doesnt degrade if you actually put it to use everyday
@Avucoda Рік тому
I have the exact same config as you bro 🤌🏼✨ just one question. All of a sudden, it hangs on the computer by itself while doing my light work. It's like if you insert a broken cd, the song skips, like that. I bought it in December 2022. I'm not sure if I format it. I tried all kinds of fix commands from cmd screen but it didn't fix it. does it happen to you too? It originally came with windows 11 installed.
@michalnowacki1489 Рік тому
@@boppernostopper8598 I never properly measured and took note of performance with 3DMark or some other benchmarking tool since I got it, but as long as you keep your fans and exhausts clean, the laptop shouldn't lose performance
@michalnowacki1489 Рік тому
@@Avucoda Never heard of this issue, I still refuse to upgrade to Windows 11 because I know I will encounter more problems. Try updating BIOS and other things maybe?
@RandomGamerwithPotatoisMyName Рік тому
@Avucoda that must be the infamous tpm bug that lenovo has yet to address
@kylerclarke2689 Рік тому
man, the 4060 and 70 are sorry. I think there's an argument for the 4050. The 4080 is amazing, brings gaming laptops to a whole new level. But upgrading from a mid tier 30 to 40 card makes no sense.
@John_Franco Рік тому
Does it also default to 4800mhz with different ram sticks? My legion pro 7i gen 8 does that
@PedroLopes-re1gm Рік тому
Hi Jarrod, have you seen the new Lenovo line called LOQ. Can you review one with a RTX 4060 and compare with the Legion
@Beitarist17 Рік тому
Hello Jarrod, maybe its only me but - whats the problem of this model exactly?
@noelvalenzarro 2 місяці тому
The pricing at the time
@Tiaopigui 8 місяців тому
Great video, though I thought it was a bit too negative given the availability of some great deals on the Legion Pro 5i. Yesterday, I purchased the Legion Pro 5i with i7-13700hx CPU, RTX 4060 GPU, 32 gb DDR5-4800 memory, 1 tb M.2 SSD, and 240 hz 1600p display from B&H. At $1249, this was a phenomenal opportunity relative to similarly priced gaming laptops, including the ASUS ROG Strix G16, which comes with an i9 CPU but 4050 GPU, or HP Omen 16, which has a much poorer display even with the same refresh rate. The system display is great, the build is solid, and it comes with a large number of ports. For someone who will use a laptop for multiple purposes (work, web browsing, watching videos, online roleplaying, and minimal gaming [mainly BG III]), I don't think there is a better value available at the current time.
@contemplatingrain2380 8 місяців тому
Hey man! Also got mine from B&H. Got the 4070 option. $1569. Definitely worth waiting for the price drop. Especially considering the fact that the sale is off now and prices have returned to normal
@Tiaopigui 8 місяців тому
@@contemplatingrain2380 Sounds like a good deal. Was that with 16 or 32 gb of memory?
@contemplatingrain2380 8 місяців тому
@@Tiaopigui My specs 2.2 GHz Intel Core i9 24-Core (13th Gen) 32GB DDR5 RAM | 1TB NVMe SSD 16" 2560 x 1600 240 Hz IPS Display NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8GB GDDR6) USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 | USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 | HDMI Wi-Fi 6E (802.11ax) | Bluetooth 5.1 Gigabit Ethernet Port 1080p Full HD Webcam with Dual-Mic Array 4-Zone RGB Backlit Keyboard Windows 11 Home
@Tiaopigui 8 місяців тому
@@contemplatingrain2380 That is a remarkable price including the i9 processor.
@diegobrava 5 місяців тому
Got one from B&H for 1.399 (DEC/2023). the 7i with the 4080 was 1.999.
@mostafawalker8947 8 місяців тому
hey Jarrod, which one do u choose? mostly for gaming ASUS G16 i7 13650HX-32GB-2TB SSD-8GB RTX 4060-FHD+ 165Hz or Lenovo Legion Pro 5 i7 13700HX-16GB-1TB SSD-8GB RTX 4060-WQXGA 240Hz they are the same price here
@batelejack Рік тому
Hi Jarrod, can I help you with subtitle of your videos?
@jk93 Рік тому
Any clues if there will be a legion 9i series?
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
👀
@cameronbosch1213 Рік тому
So... I'll take it as a yes?
@Romash. Рік тому
Jarrod can we have Legion slI'm 7i 2022 vs legion slim 7i 2023 comoarision?
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Depends if there's enough demand, dedicated comparisons are a lot of work. At a minimum I'd talk about how they're different in the review.
@Romash. Рік тому
@@JarrodsTech Okah. I kow its difficult. But i love your detailed review. I am planning to get the legion slI'm 7i 12700h 3060 in some weeks after my exams
@Meczox Рік тому
@@Romash. if ur desperate for the comparison i recommend watching both review ( when the 2023 comes out) and comparing each section as the layout of the video is pretty much the same 😊. Otherwise honestly if u cna get the. 2022 for cheap go for it. I cant even get the slim 7i 2022 as they didnt i port into my country xD
@allanwong439 Рік тому
Is the 3.2 type c the same as a lightning type c? Sorry if its an obvious question but i m so confused about this.
@mildiesel5695 11 місяців тому
boss, why my legion 5i pro same as you use are not using my 4070 GPU i play Dota 2 in max settings, and I have only 60fps max. please help me
@mitchscott1556 Рік тому
I got a 2022 5i pro (3070ti) that I absolutely adore. This channel actually helped me make the decision over the 2022 M16 I had. I got it on sale with a few nice features, including that 3 year full warranty. After taxes and shipping it came out right at $2000 USD. It might be worth looking into depending on your needs.
@MrT4lo0ol 9 місяців тому
Cpu ?
@zmau7219 7 місяців тому
good job choosing the lenevo. My 3 year old m15 is absolute garbage and started having issues from the 3rd month of ownership. Asus is a marketing company at it's core. Planning on replacing it with this laptop from the video since I get some pretty good discounts privately.
@B1u35ky Рік тому
If anything, GPU prices should be cheaper than a decade ago due to improved manufacturing. The idea that they expect us to pay more for more performance is insane. Not happening
@michalnowacki1489 Рік тому
Keep in mind inflation, the last few years have been record setting!
@jonboy602 Рік тому
@@michalnowacki1489 The increases way outstrip inflation.
@joelconolly5574 Рік тому
Well R&D, shipping, marketing and a whole lot more comes into play when it comes to tech. But yeah, some one off features like RTX, DLSS or AV1 isn't really much of a worthy reason to buy a new GPU for the AVE people.
@Davidc-om3mc Рік тому
Well it's completely opposite. GPU prices would be cheaper if the processing node stays the same as the manufacturing technology improves. However the cost for microchip manufacturers i.e. TSMC, Samsung & Intel for every node level improvement actually increases exponentally. For example, in order to develop 3nm processing node production line, TSMC actually spent more than $40 billion USD. That is A LOT of money spent on comparing to 28nm node, which is $65.5 million more than 10 years ago.
@B1u35ky Рік тому
@@Davidc-om3mc yeah it’s time for a different approach
@SaranBooM 5 місяців тому
hi everyone do you know a good adapter usb type c who adapt for this legion pro 5 because i would like to travel with this laptop but the 1kg form origine adapter handicape me a lot, pleas help me aha
@tin1126 Рік тому
Hello Jarred any thoughts on the Legion 5 pro gen 7 with the amd 9 6900 hx and 3070 ti? thanks.
@phonghai87 Рік тому
There is something that is a downgrade from last year model and that is the lack of Thunderbolt port on intel model. Hope AMD model will have USB4
@alexandrupavel5397 Рік тому
Please review the new Lenovo LOQ laptops with rtx 4060
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Still waiting to get that one!
@alexandrupavel5397 Рік тому
@@JarrodsTech ♥️
@Meczox Рік тому
Saw it too but i feel like LOQ is just a new child of Ideapad that copies a friend called legion. XD just joking seems to be cool 😂
@harryhalfmoon 5 місяців тому
Great reviews as usual. Thank you! Commenting for the algorithm.
@abdullahkhawaja5762 9 місяців тому
Which laptop is best for gaming and powerful system not big issues heat ? I am ready want buy any laptop
@JoshCravesTech Рік тому
The 4070 is a difficult one to justify in a thick chassis this year. You’re really not getting the same benefit that you used to from going with a bigger machine. So far I’ve tested the Flow (lighter/smaller/smaller charging brick) in some of these benchmarks and scored the same, even in the lower powered 90-100 watt profiles, thanks to the efficiency of these cards. Plus the extra hurt of seeing 4080 and 4090 laptops nearly doubling those scores 💀
@Meczox Рік тому
Eyy ur vids r sick 🎉
@greebj Рік тому
Call it what it really is, 4060M, does that help you decide?
@aishacs Рік тому
I recently bought this laptop for $1300 with the i7 13 gen and RTX 4070 at my local micro center and it was worth every dollar this thing is a beast
@esphilee Рік тому
Is the vantage software for configuring the laptop available in linux? If not, how can we configure the laptop in linux?
@pidiameter8917 Рік тому
Hello Jarrod, please make a video comparing the Legion Pro 5 and 7 please. Love your analysis as always.
@kulvirsingh4568 Рік тому
4070 slightly performs lower than 3070ti but if u use frame gen then it will be better Jarrods please show the results using frame gen also
@123Suryasis Рік тому
This year's Lenovo Pro 5i is a outright downgrade from last two year's model and apart from getting CPU and GPU refresh, everything is downgraded. For example, the 500 nits 240Hz screen is an optional upgrade this year and the base models are having a 350-nits 165Hz panel, a significant downgrade from the standard 500-nits 165Hz screen in 2021 and 2022 models. Thunderbolt 4 has been removed from this year's model whereas it was there for last two year's Intel models and even last year's AMD version got USB4 via BIOS upgrade. The Screen is still providing 100% sRGB, like last two years with around 70% Adobe RGB and DCI-P3 coverage whereas Asus G, M, ROG Strix/Strix SCAR, Alienware M16, all are offering almost full DCI-P3 coverage, making them very good for Video and photo editing tasks.
@TheMirrorYouDeserve Рік тому
I've chosen the better display option and a 4050 and I think it was a good choice considering how good FG and DLSS 3 can be in 2023/2024 and later
@notori-di5et Рік тому
@@TheMirrorYouDeserve 3060 even better than that and fg is good if you don't mind the latency which I'd you play val or comp rank game shit gonna hurt
@notori-di5et Рік тому
@@Inc0gnit045 what laptop did you bought
@Inc0gnit045 Рік тому
@@notori-di5et I bought Lenovo legion 5i pro i7 12700H RTX 3060
@az9az9az9 Рік тому
The new Legion Slim 5i looks also plastic and it's only 1.5mm slimmer than Pro 5 version. Let's hope the RAM is upgradable atleast.
@pouriakhorgamfar1364 19 днів тому
Hi there , thanks for the great content , I just bought a brand new Legion pro 5i Gen 8 , intel Core i7 13700 HX , Nvidia RTX 4060 GPU 8 GB GDDR6 , 16GB DDR-5 4800 MHz and while I was playing warzone on a display setting of 2560x1440 , 7,8 minutes into the game my laptop suddenly got turned off , now when I try too boot the RGB lights on keyboard are showing up but the Legion sign doesn’t come up ( black lcd ) , nothing comes up , tried holding power button for a minute , unplugged power button , let the laptop cool down but nothing works , I mean is this normal for a gaming laptop with this configuration ?
@mohammadakkash5510 Рік тому
Thank u, Jarrod, for the review. Do u get anything from Acer?
@60DollarCodger Рік тому
He bought a Nitro 5 with 4050 using his own money and that review is on the to-do list. Stay tuned 👍
@ShamelessFearmonger Рік тому
Work just bought me last year's model. Not complaining 😜
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Nice!
@SgtFinaldo Рік тому
Balanced mode is surprising. Less wattage, but great efficiency. Considering the costs of running this laptop over the course of a year, Balanced Mode could save you some cash! Over the span of it's usage, say 2-3 years, that's a considerable saving.
@anonymoususer8286 10 місяців тому
Yeah this is a great laptop if you take cost of ownership into account. It's like buying inverter versus non inverted appliances. Sure, it's cheaper at first, but once you use it over a year, you'll be surprised how much electricity money you are wasting. Still, I am disappointed in Lenovo downgrading the display's maximum brightness in this year's model.
@anonymoususer8286 10 місяців тому
Yeah this is a great laptop if you take cost of ownership into account. It's like buying inverter versus non inverted appliances. Sure, it's cheaper at first, but once you use it over a year, you'll be surprised how much electricity money you are wasting. Still, I am disappointed in Lenovo downgrading the display's maximum brightness in this year's model.
@El75390 5 місяців тому
Gaming laptops can last to 6 years if cared correctly
@jackschechter6384 Рік тому
Which laptop would you choose between, this model or the MSI 16" Prestige 16 Studio Laptop (2023)
@pepeman123 5 місяців тому
It is now price at 1500$ in a microcenter near me. Is it worth purchasing now since I cant find 3070ti models for sale from stores near me?
@ChickenFriedCorgi Рік тому
originally got the i7 4070 for 1700 during a sale on lenovo site, but was pretty disappointed in the performance and was just planning on getting the 3070ti variant from last year until I saw a 4080 legion 7i 2tb/32gb open box at my local microcenter for $2400 so I adjusted my budgets around and bought that instead and am way more happy. Getting double the performance in hefty games like spiderman and cyberpunk and witcher 3 with RT maxed. I don't think anyone should pay more than like $1300 for a laptop with 8gb vram. Gonna be an issue real soon, heck even for some games right now.
@greebj Рік тому
And in a couple years the 4070 will be relying more on DLSS3 to maintain smoothness, and relying on devs to include technologies in future games is an unknown (I'm old enough to remember the attempt to bring 3D to gaming - the only good thing to come out of it was 120hz panels)
@ChickenFriedCorgi Рік тому
@@greebj 8gh vram is an issue too.
@hemendraravi4787 9 місяців тому
@@ChickenFriedCorgi everything nvidia on a laptop is 8gb unless its rtx3080,3080ti,4080,4090
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