Let's talk about the "Netherite Upgrade"

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Mogswamp - Minecraft 1.20 update smithing table & netherite upgrade reaction/thoughts
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@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
Thanks so much for all the cool ideas in the comments! I am seeing some negativity towards Mojang and I want to remind you all to try and keep it constructive! They work very hard to make the game awesome for us. 💖 Keep in mind it's only a snapshot and everything is a work in progress, and everything in the video is just my personal opinions and feedback. 🙂 Keep these amazing suggestions coming, I am having so much fun reading them.
@Cragin.
@Cragin. Рік тому
Fr
@totaloof
@totaloof Рік тому
Oof this is buried in the comment section
@milenatomanic951
@milenatomanic951 Рік тому
Yes
@sniperedm
@sniperedm Рік тому
Nether star to make the smithing table ?
@vichilltime
@vichilltime Рік тому
Agreed I saw this and nearly threw up
@JumpierNewt8956
@JumpierNewt8956 Рік тому
The statement about Minecraft not being an exploration game hits me hard. I lost my 3 year world to corruption and it all started when I got a message saying that my world was too big. I lost my world because I explored too much.
@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
Yep, it's like it wants to be an exploration game but it's just made in a way that makes it unrealistic to explore a lot :( Sorry that happened to you
@1234567895182
@1234567895182 Рік тому
Bruh how do you have a world for 3 years and not make backups???
@theorangelantern8771
@theorangelantern8771 Рік тому
How many gigs was it before corruption
@JumpierNewt8956
@JumpierNewt8956 Рік тому
@@theorangelantern8771 My world got to 858.8MB before I started getting messages about running out of memory/space and it started corrupting. I think I forgot to mention that I was playing Bedrock edition on Xbox1.
@theorangelantern8771
@theorangelantern8771 Рік тому
@@JumpierNewt8956 Was this before 1.19?
@commanderdj
@commanderdj Рік тому
To be fair to the developers, this probably isn’t intended to be the items final state. The concept has probably been going around the developer circle for a while now and want player feedback on the idea.
@thatrandomarcher257
@thatrandomarcher257 Рік тому
theyre definitely getting feedback lmao
@Brandon34300
@Brandon34300 Рік тому
Perhaps, but I feel like people have also theorized this about other lackluster items, textures, mechanics etc. before, and it usually always ends up being wrong and we just get exactly what they first showed us. I know they’ve fixed/changed things after snapshots before but only rarely and it’s become less and less frequent in recent years. Hopefully they will really take all this feedback and criticism to heart this time and actually try to make the netherite upgrade better.
@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
I definitely should have put the part at 5:41 earlier in the video, cause I think a lot of people missed it... 😅
@itzhellraptor._.9923
@itzhellraptor._.9923 Рік тому
Bootlicker.
@probablynotdaniel
@probablynotdaniel Рік тому
I know you. It’s a good concept and I like it personally
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 8 місяців тому
Just gonna say... Netherite is NOT overpowered. Its actually not that much stronger than diamond, especially for how much harder it is to get.
@user-sk2iw7bq1i
@user-sk2iw7bq1i 5 місяців тому
Besides, overpowered is a relative term. Netherite is THE endgame, there is no progression for it to break because it is the ultimate reward for one lane of your progression.
@azimli52_kurnaz_ironi_anti-ilk
@azimli52_kurnaz_ironi_anti-ilk 4 місяці тому
its overpowered bc increasing resistance to knockback is very usefull
@realPurpleOrb
@realPurpleOrb 4 місяці тому
@@azimli52_kurnaz_ironi_anti-ilk It's actually the opposite. Skeleton boosting can be very powerful for how common it is.
@azimli52_kurnaz_ironi_anti-ilk
@azimli52_kurnaz_ironi_anti-ilk 4 місяці тому
@@realPurpleOrb skeleton knockback makes very hard to fight with him and if there more of them then hard is increasing so just resistance to knockback attribute can help that
@realPurpleOrb
@realPurpleOrb 4 місяці тому
@@azimli52_kurnaz_ironi_anti-ilk Just don't fight skeletons then. USE them to travel faster. You can get skeleton drops much easier from even just a decade old mob farm.
@MarioFRC32
@MarioFRC32 11 місяців тому
What I feel is that the use of diamonds doesn't feel justified, it just feels as an artificial way to increase its value/worth
@legoliam596
@legoliam596 10 місяців тому
What could they do with diamonds to not do that
@MrWeird-mu5ul
@MrWeird-mu5ul 9 місяців тому
Diamonds are non renewable which are perfect fot servers as currency and considering in single player they are almost worthless due to the large dangerous caves and the strip mining being a chore, you woulf rather buy diamond tools and armor from villagers, they are much easier if you love enslaving villagers, diamonds arent worth the hassle anymore unless you want to upgrade to netherite or just want an enchanting table or jukeboxes, i personally just buy diamond tools and armor instead now due to understsnding how villager trading works also building multiple farms which let me trade for emeralds.
@deeeeniiiiss
@deeeeniiiiss 9 місяців тому
The whole name of this update feels like artificial difficulty. ''oh players got netherite too fast, MAKE IT ENTIRELY RNG DEPENDANT AND THROW IN SOME DIAMONDS INTO THE RECIPE TOO!''
@bodoke8266
@bodoke8266 7 місяців тому
@@deeeeniiiiss real
@bodoke8266
@bodoke8266 7 місяців тому
@@MrWeird-mu5ul ye
@bubbledog12
@bubbledog12 Рік тому
Now I’m imagining a server where the starting players took every netherite upgrade and refuse to share it, then there becomes a sorta black market for upgrading your armor.
@ooooggll
@ooooggll Рік тому
Or worse, threw them all into lava, and now nobody gets netherite.
@woofwoof3d
@woofwoof3d Рік тому
Um your forgetting the world is kinda like very large
@Oddo22
@Oddo22 Рік тому
@@woofwoof3d its a server, anybody can join if they have the ip, which most servers just, well.... share the ip.
@bubbledog12
@bubbledog12 Рік тому
@@woofwoof3d starting players will be able to get armor and elytra’s quickly enough to raid all nearby bastions from portals, if dedicated enough they can fly quicker than any land bound starters. There’s no other quick way to travel in the nether, ice bridges would be made by the early players so no untouched bastions would be near them. As a new player you’d have to travel untouched terrain for thousands of blocks on foot because they probably are gate keeping flight as well. Also people can use seed maps to not miss a single one. Yes you are technically right that it’s still possible, however difficult that may be, to get one yourself. But by that point it’s probably better to just pay whatever cost people are selling them by. And by selling I mean upgrading your armor for you or making sure you can’t duplicate or leave with one on you.
@bubbledog12
@bubbledog12 Рік тому
Doesn’t matter if they’re gatekeeping flight or not if the server is busy enough you’ll have to spend hours looking for one anyways.
@xanax33
@xanax33 Рік тому
Diamond need to be more usable, in terms of crafting usage, diamond is less useful than iron. Diamonds are primarily used to make diamond tools and armor, which are the strongest and most durable tools and armor in the game (netherite is just a upgrade that make more stronger). However, these items are not necessary for most gameplay and can be replaced with iron tools and armor, which are more easily obtainable and still provide adequate protection and efficiency. Iron is also used to make a wider variety of items such as rails, minecarts, and buckets. Additionally, diamonds can be used to make certain enchanting items, but iron can also be used to make anvils, which are essential for enchanting items.
@LaughingLegoBrick
@LaughingLegoBrick Рік тому
1. Diamonds are not the strongest material, the strongest material is netherite which does use diamonds but still is considered another ore 2. Iron can't be used to create an enchantment table But valid points, i saw a video that pointed out that iron and gold are just better and so this will make it more useful 👍
@johndoe-jt6mx
@johndoe-jt6mx Рік тому
What kind of enchanting table are you making?
@sneaky1053
@sneaky1053 Рік тому
I am pretty dang sure you cant make an enchanting table with iron. Good point tho.
@albert9248
@albert9248 Рік тому
I agree with this. Since trading with villagers allowed people to buy their way into diamond tools and armour, there is little value to mining for them. At least with this recipe it gives players a new incentive to go mining.
@xanax33
@xanax33 Рік тому
Sorry i just put enchanting table in wrong place
@NevelaxYT
@NevelaxYT Рік тому
“ we should also add the nether star to the recipe! “ Java players: 😊 Bedrock players: ☠️
@dhans9662
@dhans9662 Рік тому
Thankfully withers are much easier in minecraft BE now, a recent update (forgot which one tho) made it so that the wither effect can be reduced by the protection enchantment. That being said, wither killers got patched in the same update :(
@theteletubbiemafia2603
@theteletubbiemafia2603 Рік тому
@@dhans9662 thank god lol the wither effect from bedrock wither killed me with max netherite before that
@minecraftwhitescreen
@minecraftwhitescreen Рік тому
​@@theteletubbiemafia2603 Armor trims available in bedrock edition?
@Nolan-W
@Nolan-W Рік тому
​@@minecraftwhitescreen Will be, but it will be later in the full update or Bata
@gobbles1181
@gobbles1181 Рік тому
Before I switched to Java from console, I used to be utterly terrified of Nether Fortresses because of the possibility of getting pummeled by a single wither skeleton.
@h3ndr1x80
@h3ndr1x80 11 місяців тому
I feel like the best way to add the netherite upgrade into the game would be where you only need to find one, and then could add it into a special slot that allows that smithing table to permanently be able to combine netherite with tools and armor
@Felipe-rn1gf
@Felipe-rn1gf 4 місяці тому
yes, it would be interesting if when the blacksmithing mold was used it discharged and could be refilled with diamonds or another item, the blue arrow in the middle could signal its charge
@catsdogswoof3968
@catsdogswoof3968 3 місяці тому
Diamond crafting
@StanLeFox
@StanLeFox Рік тому
I feel like they should rename the 'netherite upgrade' to something more intruigeing like 'mysterious tablet' or something, then when a new player find one they will think "oh, that must be important, i'm gonna keep it!" and so then when they use a smithing table they'll see the outline and go "oooohh, that's what that's for". Just an idea...
@flopp0810
@flopp0810 Рік тому
Thats great! Good idea!😁
@blazingtrs6348
@blazingtrs6348 Рік тому
@@31oannamphong66 i agree. minecraft is past the "pull up the wiki to find the crafting recipe for cake". the function being readable in game removes redundancy
@Cragin.
@Cragin. Рік тому
Nah bro they'll just google what the "mysterious tablet" is.
@Volonid
@Volonid Рік тому
Or if doesn't look like it does anything they'll just leave it there. Minecraft is a kids game so they need to make features obvious about what they do
@StanLeFox
@StanLeFox Рік тому
@@31oannamphong66 true, i thought of that while writing the comment but it was just an idea :/
@shroomer8294
@shroomer8294 Рік тому
The netherite upgrade feels like it should be an actual item like “ancient adhesive” or “infernal binding”, not “netherite upgrade” cause that isn’t a thing. Edit: To clarify I wasn’t just complaining about the name, I was complaining that the item doesn’t feel like it’s an actual item. Rn it feels more like a little card that says you’re allowed to upgrade your gear instead of an actual object or substance that is something you’d physically need to upgrade the diamond into netherite.
@kbef2438
@kbef2438 Рік тому
You *upgrade* your diamond armor *to netherite* armor.
@daewe
@daewe Рік тому
@@kbef2438 it genuinely seems like you didnt watch the video yet and just went to the comments instantly
@whitemustang3098
@whitemustang3098 Рік тому
@@daewe yeah lol
@smalltrashman4227
@smalltrashman4227 Рік тому
@@daewe No, he was criticizing the commenter point about the name of the netherite upgrade.
@zanktondb7919
@zanktondb7919 Рік тому
''isn’t a thing'' wtf is that supposed to mean?
@onionturtle3295
@onionturtle3295 2 місяці тому
I think something that would make some sense lore wise is to still require you to go to bastions, but functional as a different thing completely. One thing that’s always bugged me is that this infernal metal that is completely fire proof and immune to molten rock can be smelted in your furnace and crafted on gold. My idea is to scrap the netherite upgrade and make it so rarely in bastions you can find an internal forge, like a blast furnace but with textures of ancient debris that only Piglins know how to make. You would have to fill it with lava and fuel it with blaze powder to turn scraps(now directly dropped from debris) into netherite after adding gold. Then the same tough smelting process would be needed to coat your armor with netherite. This would need a very large amount of blaze powder, giving it more use, and additionally the intense heat would have a small chance to cause an explosion, which doesn’t break blocks or itself, but can cause a lot of damage and burn your house if you’re not careful, which adds more character to the process as you’ll ideally build like a forge area for it. Lmkwyt
@scotthayes5386
@scotthayes5386 Рік тому
I swear Mojang never missed until the upgrade template. Netherite is already such a grind from my experience and i feel like they’re messing with something that’s already rlly good. Plus bastions are already a good source of it. To encourage exploration I think they should just increase Netherite amounts in bastions, and maybe add an additional good loot item to find. But don’t change Netherite it’s so iconic and well done already.
@rexomi17
@rexomi17 8 місяців тому
Exploration is my arse I wanna gear up
@333dae
@333dae 5 місяців тому
it’s extremely tedious, not everyone has disposable netherite from tnt mining, i spent an hour mining by hand for 5 netherite ingots and i’m currently locked out of upgrading because my world seed doesn’t have any bastions close by
@DiamondRaider365-lc2tr
@DiamondRaider365-lc2tr 5 місяців тому
This may seem like cheating but if I were you I would just copy the seed and make a creative world then find the bastion I like exploring but this is a pretty good shotcut
@DiamondRaider365-lc2tr
@DiamondRaider365-lc2tr 5 місяців тому
Sorry shortcut
@smartguy360
@smartguy360 4 місяці тому
​@@333daeit took me months to find both my bastion and nether fortress, lots of searching
@archmageshane
@archmageshane Рік тому
Honestly I think the idea of using magma cream somehow is great. It works really well. Not sure how I feel about the nether star though, and the "nether stardust" or some new adhesive item kinda seems like something you had an issue with near the start of the video, being some random item that just exists to make a crafting tree more complex
@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
Yeah it's definitely not perfect. It sounds really cool though 😂 and it would for sure punch up the difficulty. I could also see it having some cool uses in the future. But a lot of people in the comments pointed out that the wither is like 10x harder on Bedrock Edition, which I was not aware of... :/
@dubl33_27
@dubl33_27 Рік тому
@@Mogswamp the example you gave for the "more complex crafting tree" is the worst you could've given, clearly you didn't do any research into what mods are nowadays and just remembered that mod from 10 eons ago that's better than vanilla will ever be btw, also the recipe you showed actually helps you do other stuff, it isn't useless and all the items in the recipe were also used for other stuff, not just the recipe.
@mr.mariogamer5403
@mr.mariogamer5403 Рік тому
@@dubl33_27 you could have just said "thier are more complex crafting trees you didint have to do all that "you clearly didint do your research 🤓" talk, he just gave the best example he knew of, all that matters was the point got accross
@randominternetguy3537
@randominternetguy3537 Рік тому
@@mr.mariogamer5403 what is the point that came across? Because the point I got is that he wants to change the recipe, but he doesn't have a good idea to change it to. He says it's lazy, but
@dubl33_27
@dubl33_27 Рік тому
@@mr.mariogamer5403 the example he gave wasn't even a good example
@RasplinYT
@RasplinYT Рік тому
Initially I thought the original method to make netherite stuff was simple enough. Interesting analysis
@Champion69420
@Champion69420 Рік тому
Hello rasplin Big fan ❤ from india!
@teresar6348
@teresar6348 Рік тому
I like the idea of maybe putting a more limiting element into the upgrade table. Like the nether star suggestion, but now you only pay it once, as though the netherite material is so heat resistant it takes the heat of a star to forge (ngl avengers infinity war was in my mind when I thought of that)
@Chans_Den
@Chans_Den Рік тому
I’d love to see an end/final dimension update much like the cave update. Completely overhaul how the islands are generated, add some new structures (maybe include a new end stronghold that has a key item needed for the ancient city portal…) and add a new end animal. Perhaps a chorus tree with a dull purple wood color with magenta leaves that have a slight glow? Think azalea leaves but magenta with little chorus flowers sprinkled around. Oh and add a craftable backpack that increases your inventory space by 2 bars.
@melhiott7977
@melhiott7977 11 місяців тому
yesssss
@DoritoTime
@DoritoTime 11 місяців тому
As a tradeoff for the inventory slots, wearing the backpack causes you to be unable to sprint
@yummynubs3646
@yummynubs3646 11 місяців тому
2 bars for a backpack? it better be made out of diamonds to get that much space
@AlphaFX-kv4ud
@AlphaFX-kv4ud 10 місяців тому
​@@yummynubs3646 not really, having 2 bars more isn't overpowered, if anything it helps make the inventory less underpowered
@binkhowell8242
@binkhowell8242 10 місяців тому
1.9:
@GeorgeCowsert
@GeorgeCowsert 2 місяці тому
The crafting system as a whole needs a revamp. Imagine a Smithing Table designed around discovering blueprints for various upgrades to your equipment; the blueprints themselves are never consumed, but provide a step-by-step guide on what materials to add to an item via the smithing table in order to get the upgrade. For netherite armor, you'd need to: Find the blueprints Go to a smithing table with the armor and blueprints Apply diamonds (equal to the amount used to make the diamond item) Apply magma cream Apply netherite ingot And done. It'd even be able to support more upgrades. Want water breathing? Use glass, slime, and turtle scutes. Want the effects of leather armor in snow on normal armor? Use wool, string, and leather. Want a basic buff? Use string, iron nuggets, and chainmail armor. There is so much depth that Mojang was THIS close to adding.
@elmacho2789
@elmacho2789 Рік тому
Just the idea of something called a netherite upgrade with that rectangular look and the icon on it feels really modded, and I feel like it doesn’t mesh with the rest of the game well. I’m glad diamonds have a new use, but they might have to rethink the implementation slightly.
@reubendaniel5691
@reubendaniel5691 Рік тому
Everything feels modded when it’s first added, I remember people saying the same about netherite itself💀 so that argument is just dumb to make
@Helm_Met
@Helm_Met Рік тому
@@reubendaniel5691 yet netheite was a new concept even in modding an ore vein that is only found once a chunk
@emperortoho
@emperortoho Рік тому
@@reubendaniel5691 just means people got used to it, it’s a tactic many companies do, announce a controversial thing, wait for the anger to die down, rinse and repeat
@Helm_Met
@Helm_Met Рік тому
And upgrading diamond armoir was very rare in modern mods where and the combination of mixing the ore itself with something else found in the same update that kind of stuff only really happens in balance updates
@reubendaniel5691
@reubendaniel5691 Рік тому
@@emperortoho I get that but how is mojang supposed to add anything new if they don’t want the game to feel “modded.” That’s why it’s just an objectively useless argument to make imo
@wattlesplays
@wattlesplays Рік тому
Not gonna lie I kinda like the new grind, or at least the sound of it! It makes diamonds more special again!
@PalmDEV
@PalmDEV Рік тому
Agreed! Thank you for saying what I was going to say, wattles!
@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
I definitely think diamonds should still be used in all of the other smithing templates! I just think it's a clunky mechanic for the netherite upgrade part...
@AtomicEko
@AtomicEko Рік тому
its 2:55 am for me i literally have no life but i just watched both your guys videos about the recent snapshots etc about this stuff and I really liked both of your guys views on this topic. idk man i just hope they fix the lore and balancing the mechanics out in a reasonable way before the update releases!
@glassofwater281
@glassofwater281 Рік тому
Right. The second I get fortune 3 I become too rich for my own good and have nothing to use diamonds for anymore.
@PalmDEV
@PalmDEV Рік тому
@@glassofwater281 See? Same here.
@Toka_Taboo
@Toka_Taboo Рік тому
I think it should take durability from the template to apply the netherite and can be repaired with diamonds or ancient debris. That way you can certainly use it forever, but you need to keep an eye on it.
@Stettafire
@Stettafire 6 місяців тому
Nah, no offence but I hate this
@awesomejoshua5328
@awesomejoshua5328 10 місяців тому
I would say that the main problem with the netherite template is in servers that have a smaller world boarder. If one or two players get all of the available templates then no one else can make netherite themselves.
@RHINOunderscore15
@RHINOunderscore15 Рік тому
The magma cream idea to be more more accurate is really neat. I like the idea of having a high cost and using nether stars but not sure how piglins fit into that since they can have netherite items in chests. Maybe they just stockpile the netherite items from past players they have slain?
@theend-nz6vs
@theend-nz6vs Рік тому
Those players would come back for that netherite I believe they found a lot of it but don't know what to do with it so they store it and don't think much about it since they would value gold more
@humourlessjester3584
@humourlessjester3584 Рік тому
For the armorr trim templates I see the recipe's lore as the diamonds being the carving tool to etch out the place where those materials should be lined up and the material block in the center as the cast's back board, as if the player is pressing the templates' pattern into the material for new material to be added. This could imply that netherite is being stuck as a layer on top the diamond armor, attached in plates (maybe by rivets) as shown by the texture, instead of being infused to the diamond armor itself. So the netherite upgrade is merely an item that punches holes into your diamond armor for a layer of netherite plating to be riveted on top. Maybe the netherite provides shock absorbption and heat resistance to the armor but it has little to no hardness by itself which is why it needs the diamond armor as a base and it only adds less than 50 additional durability. My only proof of this theory is that netherite armor has plates but diamond does not so it doesn't make sense for it to be infused and change into something plated unless the plating goes on top of the armor rather than netherite infused into it.
@slipawy
@slipawy Рік тому
Thank you for explaining this situation, my head canon is now whole again
@spiritualbeetle3904
@spiritualbeetle3904 2 місяці тому
I like this. Thank you
@JHak909
@JHak909 Рік тому
My main issue with it is the diamonds. It's really expensive, for something that is non renewable.... I think it should be 4 diamonds, 3 magma cream (as you suggested) and something instead of netherrack, like Blackstone or basalt.
@yaknowdis8668
@yaknowdis8668 Рік тому
idk, with those big ass caves I can usually get 2-8 stacks of diamonds with fortune 3 in about an hour. Diamond's aint that hard to get.
@duckified.
@duckified. Рік тому
@@yaknowdis8668 i found about 28 diamonds in the first hour of my world with only iron gear
@_Yakshini_
@_Yakshini_ Рік тому
With villagers having full pack of diamond armor and instruments is not big deal anyway. So I think using diamonds for coping netherite upgrades is not as imbalance expensive as it seems on the first look.
@butcher7406
@butcher7406 11 місяців тому
if you worry that much on diamond just get yourself a fortune 3 pickaxe and go to find caves that goes down to -49 and you will be able to spot diamonds sticking out on the surface so easily it's just that easy
@CheckmatedMC
@CheckmatedMC 11 місяців тому
We should get some kind of 'salvage' machine that uncrafts stuff. That'll make so many more things into a renewable resource thanks to villager trading and mob drops.
@roxaclock
@roxaclock Рік тому
I feel like Having a recipe including magma cream and diamonds would probably be better
@claytonharting9899
@claytonharting9899 Рік тому
I love the magma cream idea
@LineOfThy
@LineOfThy Рік тому
that's kinda an idea that came out of nowhere but yes, magma cream needs more usage now that fire res potions can be easily gotten from piglins
@jackowacko62
@jackowacko62 Рік тому
I really love the magma cream idea! Seems to fit very well with the lore and just makes so much sense. Plus, it gives another use to magma cream, which is generally under-used.
@participatoroftomfoolery
@participatoroftomfoolery Рік тому
Isn't magma cream's only usage in fire res potions and that's it? For an item that's existed for probably over a decade that's kind of pathetic.
@berthamcdurtha8554
@berthamcdurtha8554 Рік тому
@@participatoroftomfoolery poisonous potatoes too
@participatoroftomfoolery
@participatoroftomfoolery Рік тому
@@berthamcdurtha8554 but those are useless by design
@yummynubs3646
@yummynubs3646 11 місяців тому
@@berthamcdurtha8554 poisonous potatoes have no use, that's the point
@axolotelUA
@axolotelUA 9 місяців тому
fun fact: mojang added Netherite Upgrade Smithing Template so Waxed weathered cut copper stairs would have a worthy opponent
@Salt_Enjoyer
@Salt_Enjoyer Рік тому
Star dust is actually a nice idea. This item would help the game overall. For example, it could be used in brewing, for, I don't know, luck potions (for those who don't know, that effect exists in Java minecraft, but is unused), maybe it could be used to duplicate armor trims, as diamonds are relatively cheap, or for crafting end crystals (again, if you don't know, they can be crafted, but I think the recipe is too cheap). It could also used for removing curses from items (It would probably use like 10 levels and have a like 50% chance to destroy the item and turn into something, probably, glowstone instead removing the curse, as that would be too owerpowered), but while removing the curse, it will get cursed itself and turn into a completely new item, that again, could be used for potions such as blindness (that would probably be an overhaul to PvP). I might have gone too far, but it could also be used to make glowing armor trims, as it makes more sense than a glow ink sac or to craft experience bottles. Also, but as grindstones were kinda forgotten since 1.14, it would be cool if you could craft a nether star into dust with a grindstone instead of a crafting table, as you can't craft it back, unlike most (yes, sugar, I know) powders. I have been trying to come up with ideas for like an hour now. Got to go, I might edit this comment later.
@-ZM_Gaming-
@-ZM_Gaming- Рік тому
This idea is actually quite nice
@Waterwolf221
@Waterwolf221 Рік тому
i think some parts could use some work but those ideas are good
@vincentgallantcote9821
@vincentgallantcote9821 Рік тому
I like it to bad mojang can't really make everyone's ideas work😔🙃
@anJellica_
@anJellica_ 11 місяців тому
nether stardust makes sense in java but in bedrock it would be really hard to do since fighting the wither isnt exactly easy on a mobile device
@Salt_Enjoyer
@Salt_Enjoyer 11 місяців тому
@@anJellica_ i mean, then they could've buffed the amount you get from a single nether star
@Vynsan1ty
@Vynsan1ty Рік тому
I also feel like netherite just isn’t endgame. Endgame for me personally is stuff like shulkers and elytra. They are locked behind the end boss. The armor customization is cool, but needing extra items to upgrade to netherite just doesn’t feel right. One thing I would love to see implemented is an endgame armor post dragon, using something like cosmic debris found in the outer end islands and dragon scales that are dropped from the dragon or found near fossil structures buried in the end islands. This would be more end game and give the barren end wasteland more of a purpose and more of a resource gathering role. Also cosmic debris should be used to upgrade the elytra for more durability and like a half of an armor unit of defense. Dragon scale gear would be cool as heck. Edit: Cosmic debris is found and smelted to refined cosmic scraps. They are then combined with dragon scales dropped by the dragon or found rarely near cosmic debris deposits. The final product is a dragon scale alloy, which is combined with netherite for dragon scale gear.
@nerdtoad600
@nerdtoad600 Рік тому
Okay first of all that is a genuinely really good idea cause I agree eversince diamond gear could be gathered in a few hours netherite has felt more like a midgame upgrade for me and adding something to make armor wise after the dragon would be a great idea making netherite harder to get is kinda annoying in my opinion it just doesn't make sense
@thegamingweeaboo6288
@thegamingweeaboo6288 Рік тому
I've had this idea for a new endgame end resource for armor crafting for awhile now. Imagine the mechanics of the void in the end are reworked. Instead of a set amount of tick damage at a certain negative y level, you instead get increasing blindness (like when the warden spawns) and increasing tick damage the further down you go. Then, put small islands at varying levels just below this damage threshold, with islands lower down (more dangerous) having a higher chance of spawning the ore. This way, getting the resource would be a genuine challenge for endgame players, requiring significant potion prep to survive in the void whilst mining the resource. Make the resource require netherite to mine as well and make it take about as long as obsidian to keep things stressful. Also, doing this would make the elytra a must to land and leave the islands quickly, though im sure more skilled players could find other ways. Maybe make this resource craft armor when combined with dragon scales as you suggest and also have some kind of tool that can be crafted as well. I would imagine some kind of unique effect on these tools and armor, similar to how netherite cannot be burnt. 100% make the helmet give you immunity to enderman, but that isnt strong enough. I think the coolest possible feature of this new armor would be a pair of wings with armor attached. Give it the appearance of dragon wings since scales are used in the recipe and make it require an elytra to craft.
@dumfu
@dumfu Рік тому
okay cool that's a nice idea, but what would you even use dragon scale armor for? there's nothing more for you to fight, the game is just your sandbox from there. if anything it'd just make pvp fights take longer and longer, most pvp smp's now even forbid netherite because they make fights take farr too long.
@tippership
@tippership Рік тому
@@thegamingweeaboo6288 This is a good idea, especially with mojang now adding monstersl ike the warde nwhich kill you fast regardless of netherite or diamond- netherite isn't worth it without getting buffed, but your armor ('enderite ' :P ) would presumably be an actual step up and something that a player could use to not get splat in 2 hits against the monsters Mojang is now adding to give a challenge
@rogoznicafc9672
@rogoznicafc9672 Рік тому
Best bet would be enderrite with 50% chance of one ore spawning per end island so it would really be end game stuff and was not meant to be obtained in normal every day playthrough as you would probably need TNT excavators for it and then maybe even further with dragon armor that binds with elytra and you need to kill the dragon for those dragon scales or whatever
@PaperGuy_
@PaperGuy_ Рік тому
Netherite armor and tools being more expensive is great thing (my opinion) but the item itself could be improved
@Volonid
@Volonid Рік тому
My problem is existing worlds don't need to do anything. I think that offering old netherite and a upgraded look could work. Let the player either craft regular netherite normally, or craft the upgraded version with slightly better stats. That way the netherite upgrade tablet isn't forced to be needed and it's worth getting if you wanna have a little stronger armor. I'm not talking anything crazy maybe more durability a new look and some other cool things
@xanderxalamander9492
@xanderxalamander9492 Рік тому
@@Volonid alternatively, it could be more costly to produce netherite tools without the upgrade, but cheaper with the upgrade. Either way, i like your idea that the upgrade should not be a requirement for netherite tools.
@Volonid
@Volonid Рік тому
@@xanderxalamander9492 I'm sure my idea isn't the best but it gives us better armor without them having to do anything crazy. I even like the idea of the netherite upgrade being cosmetic like the tablets if they don't wanna change the armor meta. Either way it's just weird they would decided to change a crafting recipe
@deftloll
@deftloll Рік тому
Not replying to anyone but I like the ideas. Another thing is like its like a double stack. Like first you mine for the netherite, get the netherite. Then you can go back into the smithing table and place the netherite (blank), The scroll, and whatever else and make it like that. If you get what I'm saying.
@gabrielsantana6161
@gabrielsantana6161 Годину тому
surelly, it was a great idea! adding 5, 10, 20 more hours of mind numbing grind in order to upgrade one single tool. You would previously have been fully stacked with netherite at that point. All the time it takes you to run through thousands of blocks in the nether, trying to find a bastion with the upgrade on it, and then farming about 60 more diamonds to be fully maxed. It's just a way to artificially increase the effort you need to get a netherite tool. They added nothing really new: they just made it take wayyyyyyy longer so you have the impression that you're making progress. In reality, your progress has been dragged out.
@mlgman4330
@mlgman4330 Місяць тому
Worst thing is is that netherite armor doesn't actually give more defensive properties it just boasts higher durability and knockback resistance.
@marshalllee6376
@marshalllee6376 16 днів тому
No it gives more defense through the armour toughness stat
@NSluiter
@NSluiter Рік тому
One little thing I love about this update is that it adds new crafting recipes that uses diamonds. The last time a new recipe used diamonds was 1.4.6
@Stettafire
@Stettafire 6 місяців тому
TBF I don't hate the new recipe. I like the difficulty. I like that Netherite is hard to get. As a longtime player the challenge feels more rewarding then another easy recipe. I do agree with mojang upping the diamond rates though. They got a little silly after the cave update
@Kripahhhhh1402
@Kripahhhhh1402 4 місяці тому
​@@Stettafire agree. The moment I knew about this I thought it's fair enough they make netherite slightly longer and expensive to get. Since finding ancient debris is so easy if you have resources and such.
@spyke5537
@spyke5537 3 місяці тому
@@Stettafire your wish just got granted
@BonziBUDDY
@BonziBUDDY Рік тому
This pattern thing is a neat idea but the upgrade to netherite thing is going to be a massive pita on multiplayer, because items that can only be found in chests are usually first come first serve. It won't be uncommon for bastions to already be empty because someone hogged (pun intended) all of the loot. If you're lucky someone might be generous enough to duplicate some for you.
@lilzestfest
@lilzestfest Рік тому
however, alot of people will keep one on them so they can clone them later. Rob the other people yo
@slaviccrusader5249
@slaviccrusader5249 Рік тому
I don't really see this as an issue. You can't just make loot from chests be worthless because of multiplayer. Servers where it is a problem surely already have ways to deal with it
@DundG
@DundG Рік тому
Elytras itsef can be stockpiled and gated for years now. Yet I hear no one complaining.
@QuasarEE
@QuasarEE Рік тому
@@DundG Because server owners install datapacks that make the dragon drop an elytra, or they regularly reset the entire End dimension so that all the cities are restocked. Otherwise there would 100% be complaints.
@DundG
@DundG Рік тому
@@QuasarEE Hmm, that is probavly true ans gives meban idea. How about you can craft an Elytra but need a template for it?
@deadboi8989
@deadboi8989 Рік тому
Someone in xisumavoid’s livestream had a great idea all of these patterns should have a durability and can be used a set amount of time before needing to be repaired with diamonds (to keep that new use for diamonds) personally I think this is a better idea that way it’s not so costly if you have a specific pattern that you like (for me I really love helmet: tide chest: snout legs: tide and boots: sentry) it would at least save me a fair amount of trouble and diamonds if they had multiple uses
@4c696e
@4c696e 3 місяці тому
"won't create the same issue as the elytra does" silence armor trim: "allow me to introduce myself"
@JDGtheanimator
@JDGtheanimator 3 місяці тому
the issue with the elytra is that its a game changing item that gets harder to get with the more players that advance in the game, armor trims are cosmetic. Play the game how you want just dont blindly disagree without logic you sheep. People like you create unnecessary division and arguments whether you mean it or not.
@tawsifking9336
@tawsifking9336 2 місяці тому
Its Purely cosmetic Also if one guy starts to sell it you could just buy one and make as many you want and also sell them
@ashxxiv
@ashxxiv 4 місяці тому
0:51 this issue is fixed in a mod called Lootr where chests are player unique and you could do the same for framed items. should definitely be something Minecraft should have as a setting in the server property file. or loot regen after a certain period of time if the chest still exists.
@suburbanyute340
@suburbanyute340 Рік тому
Honestly, this makes diamonds more valuable again. Which I think returns some balance to the game
@mark760
@mark760 Рік тому
I agree 👍
@hurricanedude5090
@hurricanedude5090 Рік тому
I was so happy when I saw they were so important for this update
@NekuroMC
@NekuroMC Рік тому
yea now you cant skip bastion like how we skip gold tools
@hurricanedude5090
@hurricanedude5090 Рік тому
@@NekuroMC gold tools were made to be skipped lol
@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
The other template recipes can still use diamonds. But idk about the netherite upgrade. Just doesn't make sense.
@SpoopeyMain
@SpoopeyMain Рік тому
I love this. its so well thought out, and i feel makes a lot of sense (the crafting recipe that you made). Although I don't play Survival much, I always love seeing new stuff like this added in. Great video mog. 🥰
@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
Thank you so much this means a lot to me!
@Narko_Marko
@Narko_Marko Рік тому
Being able to duplicate the item seems really interesting to me. It reminds me of yeast, in the past people would have a ball of yeast they would use for bread and then make a new ball of yeast from that bread for the next batch. When you find one netherite upgrade it becomes really important because if you lose it you have to find another one which is not easy.
@Scello_
@Scello_ Рік тому
a cool consept I made is where theres a Nether Eye, crafted with magma cream surrounding an eye of ender that works as an eye of ender, for a nether structure used with Nether Bricks, well the brighter version idk what they are called, and they contain an ancient scroll that turns your armor to netherite, at the cost of it having random enchants, (excluding curses), that cannot be removed in a grindstone, however you can use a netherite ingot and a grindstone in an anvil to create an Advanced Grindstone, which can remove curses, custom names, and even armor trims
@justinquiring445
@justinquiring445 Рік тому
It’s not called a “Netherite Upgrade”. It’s called a Smithing Template with the label Netherite Upgrade so you know what it does. It’s like how the other Smithing Templates aren’t called “Armor Trims”. It’s a description.
@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
good point, this may have been a slight misunderstanding by me, but I still think the mechanic needs a bit of love
@justinquiring445
@justinquiring445 Рік тому
@@Mogswamp I do agree on that. It is the first snapshot after all
@Nba2k20ishere
@Nba2k20ishere Рік тому
@@justinquiring445 🤓
@TheSilvaHeart
@TheSilvaHeart Рік тому
@@Nba2k20ishere 😑
@INVICTA578
@INVICTA578 Рік тому
@@TheSilvaHeart 🙄
@VideobyKB
@VideobyKB Рік тому
I think for most average players that netherite is too much of a hassle to upgrade to with not enough obvious benefit. It already does take time to find some of the rarer generating blocks in the world, in a relatively dangerous part of the world, and needing 4 of those blocks per upgrade seems like enough to me. I feel like including the need to find an upgrade pattern and use extra diamonds (which are harder to obtain with new caves) could put players off of netherite all together. I love the trim designs though, and think it is a great use for diamonds to duplicate them.
@davidhamilton6883
@davidhamilton6883 10 місяців тому
They should just overhaul enchants Exp: leather is the least enchantable in the game while netherite is the most enchantable, so let's say you put protection 5 on a piece of leather vs a piece of netherite,right now protection 5 offers the same level of protection for both armor sets, however they could make to where there is a vast difference in protection from the enchant itself,this would in theory make netherite much more viable to upgrade to while not totally undermining diamond armor
@samssa7813
@samssa7813 9 місяців тому
Isn't gold the "luckiest" for enchants currently?
@davidhamilton6883
@davidhamilton6883 9 місяців тому
@@samssa7813 netherite
@Stettafire
@Stettafire 6 місяців тому
​@@davidhamilton6883Yes the enchants should be a multiplyer not just a +fixed
@vilxux9752
@vilxux9752 5 місяців тому
It's been a lot easier to find diamonds in the new caves for me
@TheRealNoodlezz888
@TheRealNoodlezz888 3 місяці тому
Bedrock Players when he said "Nether Star" 💀
@hesus1474
@hesus1474 Рік тому
"I'm no game dev expert" *proceeds to spit the hardest facts I have ever heard*
@Retepeter144
@Retepeter144 Рік тому
Yeah the cosmetic stuff's really cool but I also hated the netherite "nerf" since its already barely an upgrade to diamonds with adding slight durability and the arguably most crucial feature only comes in if you die and only if you do it in fire If anything it needs a buff for how tedius it is to get, not a nerf
@patata_gamer9968
@patata_gamer9968 Рік тому
It's not a nerf, they are making it more expensive to justificate the power, also now you are obligated to EXPLORE a bastion because what Mojang wants is to improve the EXPLORATION, not just loking for a village, making a farm and quiting the game, they wanto you to look for diamonds, not just trade an armor from a villager. Why netherite would need a buff being that easy to get?, it would ruin the game, you get diamond armor in nothing and then you go to the nether and 10 minutes later you would have full netheriute and you would kill rapidly the ender dragon and then you quit the game, and start a new one
@dhans9662
@dhans9662 Рік тому
@@patata_gamer9968 Bro netherite literally adds nothing to tools
@groveri2
@groveri2 Рік тому
@@patata_gamer9968 o7, i'm surprised the amount of people who don't appreciate this change to netherite.
@Americanbadashh
@Americanbadashh Рік тому
@@patata_gamer9968 That is still a form of nerf. Also you can basically kill the Ender dragon with enchanted iron in the current game, and less than that if you're good enough at Minecraft.
@a_balloon
@a_balloon Рік тому
Netherite was already way too op. Being knockback resistant, unburnable and so it has almost twice as much value as diamonds. And with the stupid bed explosion technique you can find ancient debris with ease. This just makes netherite more valuable for what it offers and also fixes mojang's previous mistake which was making diamonds a joke after netherite was added.
@loudypig
@loudypig Рік тому
Maybe there could be gilded blackstone in the recipe. I'm not sure how but it would be pretty cool and have an actual use for the block.
@nafsii04
@nafsii04 Рік тому
oh that actually makes some sense cuz you need gold to make netherite
@pumkin610
@pumkin610 Рік тому
And it would explain why piglins keep gilded blackstone around, aside from the fact that it has gold in it and looks cool.
@347Jimmy
@347Jimmy Рік тому
Brutally expensive, gilded blackstone is rarer than ancient debris if I recall correctly
@chicagotypewriter2094
@chicagotypewriter2094 Рік тому
Don’t think so but then again, gilded black stone needs silk touch and only generates in some places in the Nether (Netherite can be found anywhere) plus no maps for bastions I’d honestly say they’re about equal. More gilded black stone in a few places, tiny amounts of netherite anywhere
@timohara7717
@timohara7717 Рік тому
@@347Jimmy not if this change accurs yes still rare but kinda useless so the blackstobe is common where you get it
@Solveroftheabsolutefabric
@Solveroftheabsolutefabric 2 місяці тому
The netherite upgrade could be some sort of binding material since diamond is the only item to be upgraded by anything. The smithing template simply works like glue
@smaragdchaos
@smaragdchaos 9 місяців тому
2:38 Netherite is not overpowered lol, it's just a slight upgrade from diamond. Netherite upgrades make the effectiveness of netherite items not worth making, and instead you're off better making more diamond items
@vice-cent6639
@vice-cent6639 Рік тому
I feel like netherite it tedious and thats the problem, adding more tedium doesn't help
@ZentaBon
@ZentaBon Рік тому
Try bed mining. Suddenly it's easy when you realize beds are more powerful than tnt and can be safely used to mine netherite. Netherite was too straightforward to get anyway.
@olakease7772
@olakease7772 Рік тому
@@ZentaBon in my opinion bedmining makes it more tedious due to the fire it produces making it difficult to walk and look, also the infinite fire in netherrack
@tremmery2116
@tremmery2116 Рік тому
u can say any grind to do stuff is "tedius" but I think it just makes netherite more valuable, which it deserves to be
@DonDadda45
@DonDadda45 Рік тому
@@tremmery2116 because it is. grind is bad game design
@emojiface699
@emojiface699 Рік тому
netherite really isn't that tedious, you can find lots in bastions and it is very easy to bed or tnt mine if you are at the level that you need netherite, this upgrade is just a bit off in terms of what it should actually be to stop netherite being as easy to get, because even if it takes a bit of time to get, after that there is basically no need for it anymore, like diamonds
@thatonepossum5766
@thatonepossum5766 Рік тому
I love the idea of needing magma cream for it. It just fits netherite so well.
@Gaston731r
@Gaston731r Рік тому
Maybe instead of it being a one use item that could be duplicated it can brake after a few uses and the you need to repair. But you can still use the crafting recipe so you can duplicate it and gift it to your friend in multiplayer. The same thing could be applied to cosmetic one to.
@huntercool2232
@huntercool2232 7 місяців тому
Community: “Diamonds don’t feel special anymore and Netherite is too easy to obtain.” Mojang: “Bet.” **Shows Netherite Upgrade** Community: o_o
@RyanEbrahimi
@RyanEbrahimi Рік тому
I'm surprised you didn't mention how difficult it is to duplicate the tablets in superflat, since the only way you can get diamonds is from end cities
@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
I didn't want people to think I'm too biased 😂
@d0lly_c1trus
@d0lly_c1trus Рік тому
You can also find then on villages, but still... Is one of the rarest items in superflat
@bradleywoods3742
@bradleywoods3742 Рік тому
Superflat is not meant for survival, sure you can play survival on there but game developers shouldn't have to take into account the effects on survival players in a superflat world because thats clearly not the point.
@thegreatarcana
@thegreatarcana Рік тому
its almost like the point of superflat is to be challenging
@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
@@bradleywoods3742 This is what I'm talking about. I think the netherite upgrade is a stupid feature, for normal gameplay too. I didn't mention superflat in the video because it's irrelevant to this discussion.
@kkronkk
@kkronkk Рік тому
The idea of adding more customization into Minecraft is much-needed, but it's too much effort to just make your armor more aesthetic. It would be much more interesting if the trims had certain qualities, such as the gold trim armor could make the piglins neutral towards the player, emerald-trim could give a slight discount in villager trading, and lapis better luck or discounts in enchanting
@KingAuthurTheLast
@KingAuthurTheLast Рік тому
This kinda reminds me of fallout 4 with power armor paints
@disco-bot2724
@disco-bot2724 Рік тому
I feel like that defeats the purpose If one trim color is objectively better than every other color then people are going to look the exact same- these trims were meant to make people in the end game look unique and different without sacrificing function
@kkronkk
@kkronkk Рік тому
@@disco-bot2724 yeah, I didn't really think of it that way until you mentioned it. I just feel like finding the tablets would be underwhelming if their only purpose was customization
@TheWalkingMeme360
@TheWalkingMeme360 9 місяців тому
I love the idea you had for the crafting recipe with netherite stardust and it would put the hammer on the workbench to use
@seanprice6049
@seanprice6049 8 місяців тому
Honestly this item fixed a problem no one ever had, if anything it actually created a new problem. Now if we want everything from our tools to our armor to be netherite, we need basically a stack of diamonds, 9 of those upgrades, 9 netherrack (not really a problem) and we need diamond tools and armor in order to be covered in debris and have our tools plated with debris. All in all this item made getting netherite armor more annoying.
@dumbmusorowan
@dumbmusorowan Рік тому
completely agree, i feel awkward criticising this snapshot at all bc everyone i've talked to seems to love it. the whole thing feels too modded for me, especially the upgrade and trim pattern item textures. i bet it's really hard for mojang to find a balance between adding too much new content and letting the game stagnate too much, but at this point i'd prefer a year or two with only minor updates bc things feel way too rushed.
@sethsmith2608
@sethsmith2608 Рік тому
That goes back forever. Everyone says something is too modded initially. Here are some examples: Pistons, Slime, Elytra, Crafting book, Waterlogging, Living Fish, Raids, Netherite, Massive 1.18 caves. Now think about the game without those things and think if that would be a better or worse minecraft
@velvet3784
@velvet3784 Рік тому
I personally don't like how now I can't apply netherite ingots I crafted without netherite upgrade. And I just hate having to go to normal Nether fortresses, now I need to go to bastions if I want netherite and will get killed 10 times for 1 item. Just not worth it. This also makes mining netherite redundant because of what use it is if I can't appy it? I can just throw it on the cactus now.
@schnek8927
@schnek8927 Рік тому
@@sethsmith2608 Pistons where literally a mod at first (and fit very well), elytras still break the game and effectively invalidate all other types of transport (especially with shulkerboxes), fish mobs don't even affect fishing so it does indeed feel like a bad mod, netherite could've certainly used more planning (and this snapshot shows that they are aware of their mistake), and the massive caves are still horribly implemented and are just an eyesore most of the time. (I'm not against the idea of giant caves, but they should not only be rarer but could also use some improved generation) If i think about the game without most of those things, i can definitely say that it would be better. Mojangs unprofessional implementation of these half-baked ideas really have made the game worse, and they show no sign of improving them either... And even when they do (like the netherite in this snapshot), it still feels half-baked and unprofessional.
@sethsmith2608
@sethsmith2608 Рік тому
@@schnek8927 The thing about the elytras: they were poorley implemented (I mean, end cities are kinda stupid anyway), but they did allow for a quicker game which allows all the amazing builds and farms we see today. (I think making rockets propell them was the real problem, I mean, bow flight with punch II at least required skill
@losuthusxd886
@losuthusxd886 Рік тому
I have an idea for that "bonder" you talked about. It'd be the "Magmatic Glue" (not really cool name, but I'm too lazy to find a better name). You would find the Ancient Glue (to continue with the "ancient" part of the netherite) in bastions, but it wouldn't work as a bonder yet. You would have to combine it with 4 blaze rods in the corners (we know these work as fuel, and blazes are fire resistant, so it'd make sense) and 4 magma cream around the Ancient Glue (again, the magma cubes are fire resistant, and the magma cream is used for fire resistance potions). After that you would be able to use the Magmatic Glue as a bonder for upgrading diamond to netherite gear)
@Cosmik60
@Cosmik60 Рік тому
Cant wait for the inevitable end ore edition: chorus resin
@losuthusxd886
@losuthusxd886 Рік тому
@@Cosmik60 Chorus resin doesn't sound bad
@participatoroftomfoolery
@participatoroftomfoolery Рік тому
​@@losuthusxd886 yeah and it'd lock netherite as being a post-dragon item
@NormogGaming
@NormogGaming 11 місяців тому
Wow Another Mog.. 🤘😎 found you looking for info on the Update. Keep up the good work man .. got a new sub.
@mar-nyan
@mar-nyan Рік тому
I love your idea of using items that make sense lore-wise to craft the recipes.
@aceplante
@aceplante Рік тому
Honestly I was thinking the same thing (that it’s a weird item/doesn’t make sense), but I’m glad there’s another requirement that makes full Netherite harder to get, and it matches all of the other trims now
@dragonfire5025
@dragonfire5025 Рік тому
From the title and thumbnail, I was expecting another person to be complaining that game was changed or they didn't like the changes and wanted it removed or something similar. This was really well done, saying that you like the concept but thought an aspect of it needed to be changed or altered and opened it up to discussion, all while being positive about it. Really well done video!
@fisher_dittburner
@fisher_dittburner Рік тому
If you ask me, the only way they could improve the netherite upgrade would be to remove it. Ancient debris is so hard to find compared to the rarity of diamonds (which was for standard maxed out equipment years ago). We don't need to keep making equipment harder and harder to obtain, I think a better addition would be an alternative upgrade path from diamond, perhaps an ender ore of some sort that is equivalent to netherite in most ways.
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 8 місяців тому
Yeah honestly... Multiplayer servers are usually limited in size with a world border to prevent the server from running out of space and crashing, so its SERIOUSLY a problem in multiplayer. Especially for rare items like the Silence trim where its so rare its all too easy to get a monopoly on it. It CAN be duplicated... but that doesn't mean they will. And even then its really expensive. With the Netherite Upgrade especially it can become super rare if players decide not to share, so you'd have to travel hundreds of blocks just to find a new bastion to raid (and some people are really dedicated and will searched for hours looting every structure they can find before anyone else...). As for its uniqueness... I don't think its a problem that its different from regular trim templates. Its supposed to be special, and it opens up more options for other kinds of upgrades later on. Netherite is already basically just Diamond but with an extra bonus effect (knockback resistance and burn immunity) I would love if they had other rare upgrades for other things like increased speed or attack or whatever... so instead of Netherite being the definitive highest tier, there are multiple options that are all equally good.
@twomur_
@twomur_ Рік тому
the netherite upgrade smithing template thing feels very tacked on (because it is) and just clunky. I don’t like the duplicating mechanic either (yes i know servers would run out of un looted bastions) so what i think should be the process is going to a bastion and mining the gilded black stone and when surround the gilded black stone with 4 diamonds you would get the netherite upgrade template. This would give gilded blacks tone a use and it can be rare but if you’re looking for it then you’ll find it. they could also make piglin brutes drop gilded black stone and the smithing template RARELY! This would feel a lot better than some chest loot which i think the bastion already has a great balance of it!
@Power4ever
@Power4ever Рік тому
I wish they made diamond hoppers that had more space for automated kelp farms and bonemeal farms.(and other farms oc)
@Lord_Vertice
@Lord_Vertice Рік тому
Hoppers don't really need more space, but higher throughput (=speed) would be useful in a lot of high end technical redstone
@Power4ever
@Power4ever Рік тому
@@Lord_Vertice I’m not that smart with red stone so I use simple guides such as a bonemeal farm and it ends up not having enough space and leaves behind stacks of kelp.But yes higher input is more of a problem.
@eu9887
@eu9887 Рік тому
They could make a recipe to increase the hoppers speed. But Idk what item would they choose for it
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi Рік тому
If you need fast hoppers you can use hopper minecarts. They are many times faster than hoppers
@Lord_Vertice
@Lord_Vertice Рік тому
@@YounesLayachi at unloading stuff vertically, but nothing more.
@vic2006
@vic2006 8 місяців тому
If Mojang is trying to get you to explore your world, then heck yeah they did it well with the netherite upgrade. I will never forget how I wanted my maxed up diamond gear to be netherited in my 1.20 new survival world, and as I previousely got all the netherite ingots for it, I entered the nether to search for a bastion that could have it. In that inmersion, I found and looted three diferent bastions, and none of them had any single netherite upgrade. Just gold and obsidian that I used to craft an ender chest with the ender pearls from the warped forest and the blaze rods from a fortress that I also found in the way, all of that in order to solve the problem of inventory management that I was having due to the overloading items that I was founding in my journey. I got to the point that I started to use the materials around me in a way that I didin't even thought it could be posible, like when I ran out of wood and had to move on to the crimson forest to get wood for a crafting table, wich then I used to craft all the gold nuggets I was mining to get the gold that I used to trade with piglins, and then for those trades I got things like fire resistance potions, enderpearls and strings that later I would use to move from the third bastion (that was almost surrounded by a lava lake) to a set of crimson islands at the high of the lava, wich made me able to reach a strider with a warped fungus on a stick (that I previousley crafted with the strings and the wood from the crimson), only to realize that I didn't have a saddle to ride it, so I returned to the bastion with the enderpearls that I traded with piglins, only to fail my first pearl and ending up falling in the lava lake, forcing me to drink the fire resistance potion that I previousely got from piglins, then once arriving to the ender chest that I placed in the top of the bastion (because I didn't carried a silk touch picaxe with me) I got the saddle and I returned with pearls to the portion of crimson forest that was in the middle of the lava lake, finally getting to ride an strider and start moving trough the nether with much more eficiency, until I arrived to a fourth bastion that was intercalated with a basalt delta biome (wich made me freak out cuz bastions don't naturally generate in that biome and I don't know why because parkour between the basalt columns and the bastions was great), and hopefully I found two netherite upgrades in one random chest in the bastion (like, it didn't even had a treasure chest or anything, and I still got it from a random chest). Then I returned where I had parked the strider in blocks to get it away from it's family and friends forever and make a portal with the obsidian from the piglins to get back to the Overwordl, and the very first thing that apeared in my screen was "randomname has just earned the achievment [Black Hole]", wich meant that I had traveled more than seven kilometers from my first nether portal, and the second thing that I saw was almost total darkess, as I had appeared in a deepslate cave, without torches, and making up circular stairs to get up was damaging my eyes for all the darkess, so I got back to the nether and got lava buckets to iluminate the way, having to get back for more every time I placed in one point an then got up until I happen to mine a coal ore, that get me acces to torches. Although, once I got up, I ended up in an aquifer, so all of the torches that I had placed were gone. Once I got to the surface I thougth to myself: "alright, I have the inventory full, so no more exploring. I don't recognice the terrain, but if I get some redstone from the cave where the nether portal spawned and make a compass I will be able to get to the...", and I couldn't finish because my sight just caught up a rose glipse, and inmediately thought: "holy shit, the new cherryblossom biome that it's said is extremedly rare! I have to get at least a sappling for home!" I don't remember much about the journey to the spawn, but I remember that after finding lots of cool biomes like the ice spikes and the snow mountains with goats and trap snow, I got to the spawn only to get all my things in a double chest and inmediately kill myself to get to my home, and then go back to the spawn to get my things and know the way to my home. So yeah, I don't have any concern with the netherite upgrade, as it made me enjoy the cube game in a way that I could never thought it could be possible. For the lore thing, it is said in Minecraft Legends that piglins almost took entirely the Overworld, so that could explain why the netherite upgrade is made out of diamonds and works to upgrade the diamond to netherite armour, alongside with all the loot in the bastion chests that are exclusively from the Overworld like the iron, and also the thing with baby zombie piglins riding chickens.
@ZenMasterSloth
@ZenMasterSloth Рік тому
Some great ideas for a better implementation. Hope something like these get done.
@Tealen
@Tealen Рік тому
Your idea is great!! It adds so much lore and more meaning to netherite! And also prevents the problem the elytra has. Great video as always!
@Death_is_Beauty
@Death_is_Beauty Рік тому
1). I wish that Mojang would actually increase inventory space before making these armor trims. 2). These duplicates/duplicating system doesn't make Netherite harder to obtain. It just makes it more expensive. They should do away with the tablets but instead have a loom-type smithing table where you add your armor/tools, any upgrades (like Netherite), and the material which gives you a list of possible trims. To make netherite harder to obtain, they should've just reworked the crafting recipe. Instead, maybe do 7 netherite scraps, 1 nether star, 1 magma cream. That way it's harder to craft an ingot because you now have to go though countless Wither skeletons, Withers, and the process of grinding/finding/exploring more debris/netherite/scraps. by adding 3 extra scraps to the recipe, that results in 27 extra scraps/debris to the cost of a full set of armor+tools. This would also mean killing 9 withers. Above all, I just want more inventory space.
@dubl33_27
@dubl33_27 Рік тому
you had me til the 7 netherite scraps and nether star. That's why players shouldn't be able to suggest changes, like, mojang's ideas aren't that good but are far better than what most people bring to the table
@viniciusgoulart5077
@viniciusgoulart5077 Рік тому
@@dubl33_27A lot of players have really interesting sugestions, it's just that there is a lot of kids in the Minecraft community... Unfortunately Mojang won't listen to either of those players though
@trentbell8276
@trentbell8276 Рік тому
Netherite should be hard to get, not _that_ hard to get.
@squishyfishanimations4530
@squishyfishanimations4530 Рік тому
I think your idea of the magma cream and nether star bonding agent would be a lot better than what it is now
@zelz3011
@zelz3011 9 місяців тому
I do think you are right. From a Lore perspective it feels like it doesn't make sense. The Design looks lazy which is depressing as I miss some of the old designs (Gapples) and (Netherack) the former more than the latter so seeing things like this doesn't help and I think doesn't fix the problem in a way that doesn't start a bigger one or comparable one. I think you did this a lot.
@DudeInADinoOnesie
@DudeInADinoOnesie Рік тому
10/10 video. I love how you summarized and explained everything. Great job!
@Constricter
@Constricter Рік тому
Armor trims are cool, definitely agree with the stance on the Netherite Upgrade
@DriestApollo
@DriestApollo Рік тому
great video as always. you have such a positive tone and everything you said made sense!
@staryy.0
@staryy.0 Рік тому
I feel like Mojang could add a scarecrow into the game where you place a carved pumpkin on a block of white wool to scare off phantoms that would be a great addition!
@masterdeetectiv9520
@masterdeetectiv9520 Рік тому
Cats already do that so it doesn’t add anything to the game
@ernestregia
@ernestregia Рік тому
I initially thought this was the best update to once again utilize spare diamonds, but I forgot you play superflat. The solution is pretty simple: remove the netherite template, but keep the other templates. If you want to customize, work more (by mining more diamonds or exploring the structures). Much like if you want to get some cool skins, you gotta pay. I mean c'mon, they're only 30% more durable and slightly stronger, why do we need an extra effort to get those.
@ernestregia
@ernestregia Рік тому
Maybe they could've added drilling block, which is crafted with diamonds and can be used to destroy the block in front of them, because diamonds irl have the highest toughness scale of 10. Imagine how many farms we could have if we can just destroy the blocks without any explosions.
@KaneyoriHK
@KaneyoriHK Рік тому
I prefer this manner of netherite cause it feels way more applicable and more like proper progression, i like netherite but damn was it boring to use cause it's so easy to get. For me personally at least, but I'm also the type that likes to make paths rather than flying.
@Wither_Strike
@Wither_Strike 9 місяців тому
Welp, my luck with finding ancient debris was already trash, i guess this brings my chance of ever getting a legit set of netherite stuff to 0
@Super_Nova919
@Super_Nova919 7 місяців тому
I can 100% agree with you, I don't understand why it is like this, why can't it be an interesting item like an ore only found in bastion treasure chests that CAN'T be replicated...(maybe an alloy of gold because since netherite is an alloy maybe combine it with netherite to make a brand new type of metal, then when combined with gold in a smithing table makes it turn into netherite)
@castlebeki
@castlebeki Рік тому
you are making a good point here. Diamonds are known for their hardness which allows them to cut most of the existing materials. While you could argue that having diamonds in the patterns allows to cut the armor and insert the color, what about the netherite upgrade ? what does this upgrade do ? do you use it to cut the netherite ingot ? It feels like they just "magically" upgrade it which doesnt feel right in a game like minecraft.
@Mogswamp
@Mogswamp Рік тому
Yeah you perfectly articulated why it doesn't bother me for the trim templates. It's just the netherite upgrade that's the sticking point for me. Very well put!
@osbourn5772
@osbourn5772 Рік тому
Yeah I'm not really quire sure what physical thing the "Netherite Upgrade" is actually supposed to represent. It kind of feels like a poorly thought out placeholder crafting item in mods, but even mods handle this problem much better. Like Tinker's construct has molds which resemble something physical much better, and create has precision mechanisms which are just a hard to get crafting item but still feel more real.
@Juancam132
@Juancam132 Рік тому
Combing the colors and trimming patterns would be awesome and the smithing table having another tab for the combinations like the banner customization
@Stettafire
@Stettafire 6 місяців тому
Or, here me out. Another work station 😁
@catsdogswoof3968
@catsdogswoof3968 3 місяці тому
​@@Stettafireflet hing table
@bhj3190
@bhj3190 Рік тому
Just wanted to say I really enjoyed the video, especially the Bari sax jazz background music in the first minute. Great choice for the ambient sound!
@Just_gaming723
@Just_gaming723 21 день тому
I went back and played Java beta 1.7.3 and it was actually so fun I highly recommend. Yes the movement speed was slower but it suited the way the game was balanced back then and also I had so many flashbacks. Like for example you spawn on the beach which in my opinion was a much better and guaranteed good starting point. Also the the old hunger mechanic was very fun to use how like one pork chop would heal you and you can’t over stack them. And also at night time looking up to the night sky for some reason the stars just hit different back then. Some other things I appreciated were the old water it looked more blue which I prefer and also the game made diamonds feel more precious. I guess this is also due to there not being netherite but also the game made you feel like you had to collect as many diamonds as you could to flex. So yeah highly recommended. ( I had the idea after playing fortnite og) by the way you can research what a good version would be but I did enjoy beta 1.7.3
@Fidg3tt
@Fidg3tt Рік тому
Maybe there could be an item dropped by piglin brutes that would explain why the wrist guard they have makes them so powerful and why it could be used to upgrade diamonds to netherite.
@sneaky1053
@sneaky1053 Рік тому
Although with this, and even yout idea(which might be a good alternative) it does still have the elytra problem, because to duplicate it, you need one in the first place, and it might require a lot of nether travel to find an unlooted bastion on a multiplayer server (and also the other crafting idea is good, but i think the nether star is a bit of exaggeration, needing to beat the wither (also 7 times) to get full netherite
@JustinMorphius
@JustinMorphius Рік тому
For some reason I really feel like you could get another use of Phantom Membrane in this recipe as well. Magma cream and membrane acting as bonding agents for the nether armor. Though I also think it'd be neat if there was additional things that could be found with the deep dark that could merge with any armor, not just netherite. Since we're allowing customizing armor now, why not some enemy detection, night vision, etc, permanent effects.
@vibevizier6512
@vibevizier6512 Рік тому
Absolutely Fucking Not. Most people IMMEDIATELY turn off phantoms due to how damn annoying they are
@Itz_Sinny
@Itz_Sinny 3 місяці тому
@@vibevizier6512i cant belive MOST people doesnt know sleeping exist
@deutschegeschichte4972
@deutschegeschichte4972 Рік тому
I am on a Hermitcraft inspired SMP, we kind of follow some general convinience rules like you said "don't take all the elytras" and stuff like that. So all the elytras getting taken isn't too much of a problem for us however my personnel opinion on the item is that it shouldn't be added lol. Isn't really a need for it, yeah netherite is easy to get but is still time consuming which requires effort from the player to get it which kind of makes netherite somewhat difficult to get because not everyone is willing to put in the effort.
@jacobebstein8838
@jacobebstein8838 Рік тому
I think the idea was compensating for the greater availability of diamond. Not needing diamonds for armor because of villagers means that you don’t even need to go caving in the overworld to get netherite. This update makes you work harder to get netherite and gives diamonds more value
@nadeen3157
@nadeen3157 Рік тому
The biggest issue i have with the new snapshot is that there's not really any indication the trim gets consumed by adding it. You know a bunch of people will struggle through a woodland mansion for one and end up accidentally losing it on one armor piece
@thalassaer4137
@thalassaer4137 Рік тому
It will. Its really not that hard to guess
@chinkram
@chinkram Рік тому
The templates shouldn't be consumed when used but rather they should broke, and to repair them the recipe could be the same as the duplicate just with the broken template instead
@caseymurray7722
@caseymurray7722 Рік тому
@@chinkram I would say to just add a durability to the trims and give them 4 uses only. If you want multiple sets you still need diamonds and if you want tools and armour you still need diamonds for duplicating the netherite upgrade.
@caseymurray7722
@caseymurray7722 Рік тому
I think Armor trims and netherite upgrades should have a durability of 4. You get 4 uses and then they break. For netherite this means you need more diamonds to also upgrade tools or you have to raid at least 2 bastions or get lucky with the bastion. Needing to raid a different structure over and over is annoying and 7 diamonds per armor piece is quite steep too. Being able to do one set of armour would make the rarity of trims and diamonds much less cumbersome.
@mahitoonanimation3737
@mahitoonanimation3737 Рік тому
Maybe the netherite upgrade can be use like banner patterns you use it one time and don't disappear that will make it better and maybe should called upgrade template
@LucasFTF64
@LucasFTF64 Рік тому
I like the use of diamonds (specially for the trim recipes) as in the endgame i cant even find enough uses for the stacks of diamonds i have over years of playing, but the netherite upgrade seems weird as you said having diamonds in the recipe and no lore at all, I really hope they make it more interesting, the item looks like it came from a minecraft mod and not minecraft itself
@noizepusher7594
@noizepusher7594 Рік тому
Well every new Minecraft feature looks like that. Years ago people were saying that pistons looked like they came from a mod, same can be said about netherite itself. It’s really a matter of perspective.
@tiffanycarlyle4908
@tiffanycarlyle4908 Рік тому
The scroll idea along with the magma Cream glue makes a lot of sense to me. Great idea!
@VimalaSankaraN-ml8yc
@VimalaSankaraN-ml8yc 11 місяців тому
Hi Mogswamp! I am a new subscriber and I also have an idea for the missing item. It can also be something super hot enough to melt netherite ( even though it has a huge fire resistance limit ) to mold it on top of the diamond armour. But still, your idea was even better than Mojang's. Love you!
@shaggytoph
@shaggytoph 7 місяців тому
I agree 100%, just tried to go back to minecraft and found this changes and I was like huh?? it doesn't make sense neither affects me, but seems odd
@Mistyswirl
@Mistyswirl Рік тому
I like the idea of tying lore into the recipe. And you're right, it should be different than the generic cosmetic trims. The netherrack as part of the recipe feels really ill-thought-out, like at least make it netherbrick or blackstone to match the other recipes that are based on the structure they're found in.
@Tribenix
@Tribenix Рік тому
Idea: each material has its own special effects (Ex. Gold trimmed armor does not make piglins mad, copper trimmed oxidizes over time, giving the armor a sense of age, emerald trimmed makes villager trade prices reduce by a small amount, etc).
@tremmery2116
@tremmery2116 Рік тому
imagine copper made it so u got struck by lightning lol
@efebot033
@efebot033 Рік тому
I would like to expand your examples with my imagination too: Netherite trim to make items lavaproof. Diamond trim to increase the durability of the armor. Redstone trim could shine when taken damage. Coal trim could decrease the fire damage (I know it's against the nature of coal but still I couldn't find something more suitable)
@Tribenix
@Tribenix Рік тому
@@efebot033 yes
@e2b265
@e2b265 10 днів тому
It baffles me how Mojang looks at their game, the lack of inventory slots compared to the massive amounts of items and blocks they keep adding, and they go “What if we took a current system, but added more required items to use it?”
@MigWith
@MigWith Рік тому
Dude, i am just so so happy for your success. the channel has been growing a lot, when i find a Channel that is about to blow up i usually take a screenshot, and so i did. got a screenshot of when i found your channel a couple months ago and got sad that it had so little subscribers than i expected for the video quality... congratulations!!!!
@pumkin610
@pumkin610 Рік тому
Mog has been on the rise for awhile, they certainly deserve success!
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