Couldn't agree more. 👏

This is the point of TikTok. The age reverse technology will be only accessible for the "elites" The rest will watch TikTok!

Couldn't agree more

It's sad how much time people waste complaining about TikTok.

Ok China

It's evolution's foult - we have full spectrum of people.

Just let us go and if I

Do it now.

Since when is the CCP against equality? Lol. Just work on your social score and you can shop anywhere you like!

It's for the prepared graphics

This becomes a question of philosophy of prioritization. Such a thing does create a population expansion, this is something that is at the core of how you apply such technologies, once developed. Hence, while I think most would certainly want to help as many people as possible, ideally all, that rubs up against the reality that such a thing isn't viable unless other measures are taken to reduce or eliminate the negative side effects. These are where one should be focusing, not just hoping it can be given to all at some point.

Sure the scientists would find a way to deal with problems of population, environments as happened earlier.

So I'm by no means an expert on the topic, but I do love listening to this stuff and it intrigues me greatly. The question about living to 150 would also have to come with how would that look? Would our age at 60-80 still look the same, but we would just be stuck in that very frail form for just another 50 years? Or, would 100-120 be the new 60-80? I don't think anyone would want to just extend the end of our lifespan to 150 if the middle wasn't also extended. So about availability to everyone and the benefits of it economically. First off, this is not the same as rich people getting big boats or mansions. If the rich would attempt to horde something like this, you would quite literally see them be ganged up on like times in the past. But, I don't think they would with something like this in the first place. Imagine if everyone could "extend" their working years from 18-66 to 18-120. Imagine the money saved by companies if their employees could work that long and the experience each individual would be able to bring to the table. It will no doubt come at a cost, and it would also depend on how much could be produced. But, if there was something that could extend life by 50 years, it would be one of the most valuable things you could get your hands on. Because if a tech or pill could do that, would would come out in the time that 50 years bought? Many of the scientists working on longevity think that if you are middle age by the time 2030 comes along, you will most likely experience the term they coined longevity escape velocity. Basically saying that enough life extension medicine and technology will be coming out extending lifespans that it will basically go into infinity until we would no longer die of old age. Of course you could always get hit by a vehicle or killed. But they think they could eliminate death due to natural disease and aging in general.

I’m not a scientist, but I am pretty sure that, back then if you made it to 50-60. you were considered rather remarkable. Of course, there we’re many exceptions, people who reached 80 or over, I’m only talking averages. Again it’s only my understanding, but they had very little knowledge about food and diet and it’s actual effects on our systems, they also worked extremely hard, ( compared to us) mostly physically work, along with using very harsh chemicals in very unsafe ways, ect ect.

@Bizpo Very interesting. Been thinking about that myself. I will soon be 57, but personally to me it feels like middle age is just starting (the decline you mention and I mean only physical, and not very significantly). On an intellectual and cognitive level, I personally feel I have gained a lot and keep "evolving." I firmly believe in good health by prevention, being conscious about your intake of food, exercise, sleep, etc. For the rest, life is just a journey, I'd like to keep the mistery up, no need to delay anything, in my honest oppinion. I enjoy life, try to make the best of my day, have no rush to check out, but wouldn't want to prolongue my life any further than for example my parents, who left in their late 60's and 70's respectively. But this of course is, and should give way to a more philosophycal discussion.

@@hearyou4203 , my dad has said something similar. Age really only started to hit him in his late 50's, so you guys may already be experiencing the shift in 'middle' age due to health advances and a healthier living with increased exposure to health knowledge and means (access). My grandfather was similar, when he was 80, he felt intellectually in his late 20's he said. Time caught up with him a bit after that, but something to be said for sure about keeping your mind and body active.

Way too dramatic and cringey lol. Life extension doesn't mean immortality. Depends on your definition of immortality of course. May I remind you that you can choose to end your life anytime. I can assume that when we get that aging reversal tech, euthanasia would also be legalize as long as you're in a healthy state of mind. That way, you can choose the time you're going to die; happy, without regrets, healthy, and painless.

Maybe for you, but the goal is for people to make choices for themselves. That is the goal. Also ending aging is not the same as immortality. You can still die from various other things.

The secret is somewhere between normal cells and cancerous cells. Normal cells can only reproduce a limited amount of times whereas cancerous cells can reproduce without limit. The trick is to achieve unlimited reproduction but without producing tumours.

And what determines the rate of mutations in a species?

@@hrgwea Honestly I don't know. But it seems all species do it but at different rates and higher rates correlates with lower life span.

Maybe the rate of mutation is directly correlated to the rate of celular reproduction. A faster metabolism should result in a greater rate of cellular reproduction and, therefore, more mutations.

@@hrgwea , was just about to say this. Metabolism is seen as an indicator of lifespan. The more a cell reproduces the more chance there is for mutations. This same thing applies to things like viruses, which is why vaccines can (sometimes, it's complex) have an impact on mutation rate, since they can stop the reproduction of viruses sooner, reducing the chance of mutations. Although, of course, one can't ignore that the longer a cell exists in time, the more chance it has to be exposed to mutagenic factors.

No doubt! The stats he gave were scary. Was it 30% smokers, 50% obese, majority sedentary.. wtf??

@@kevinblackandwhite8273 Yeah, The smoking percentages were that the people were heavy smokers "at some stage" in their lives. So who knows what that means? You would assume that a sedentry life would kill you, no matter your genetics. The overweight one really gets me though. While I have never asked an old person how much they weigh just from visual impressions, I do not see a lot of fat people who are 80 let alone 100.

@@spindoctor6385 I agree. Really weird. Gotta get hold of the original study I suppose, to make any judgements.

The best predicter of longevity is the quality of your relationships. This has been proven in study after study and so it is strange that David and Mir didn't really touch on it. In so much as good relationships are linked to good mental health and a positive outlook, I think you are spot on.

@@kevinblackandwhite8273 , I think it is because that is just the side effect of the same underlying causes they already discussed. If you have good relationships, your mental well being is higher, which will tend to have less stress and less stress hormones, and less inflammation...etc.

I believe you're over complicating my friend. Understanding the "purpose of life" is quite simple. Living organisms breed, interact with their interfaces and evolve. Simple as that. Everything else is just occupied time between.

@@aeonproelium Thank you for your reply. I was understanding the meaningness of life from consciousness perspective, which relies on continuity (differentiable calculation) I believe.

@@barcoyou5976 I understand your perspective, however consciousness doesn't over rule the basics of the particular organism and organisms need adversity to continue to simply maintain and certainly to evolve. That being said continuity needs to come from heritage and not the lack of mortality. But again, I do understand your perspective and will agree that longevity is preferential.

@@aeonproelium good points.

@@aeonproelium actually historically most males did not reproduce, the small high quality group of men had most of the women, so for the majority of men reproduction was not their purpose

I think you meant "in" 2322.