Queen 💅🏻

And even with that she slayedddd

she doesn't even sound bad...? she sounds very stable actually.

Bestttt

Also considering she's a rookie..she's doing her best and she'll definitely improve more.

Its a rumour that sm has singers. With the machine singing for them 24/7 its like its a company for machines singing.

@@firstlastname1158 bruh what 😂

don't put quotation marks when talking about sm vocalists when they still have the best technique throughout generations regardless of whether they sing live or not.

whatt? when most sm's artist that performs on gayo was singing live there

I’m pretty sure OP is referring to the industry’s insane standards for live vocals - and NingNing is one of the only idols that actually meets them!

4th gen leaders fr

As someone who can't sing well my own written songs, I admire them so much.

Sooo true! Writing isnt a requiremnt to be an idol but those who are self produced have a different passion for the song as they write it themselves and relate to the song better. My respect for them is just>>>

@@faoziahnuraddini9450 💀

@Swduc fr. They know about their own ability. Forcing on something that's not your ability is just create a mess

😂

So Weird🙏😂😂

maybe only the breath live 😌

Hayoung randomly popping off is actually so funny pls she was like “i HAD to slay”

@@emdi9271 IT SOOO FUNNY AND RANDOM LIKE "omg the performance is about to end and i haven't slayed yet!!" 😭😭

LET THEM SING SM 😭 THEYRE MORE THAN CAPABLE

If you want to hear them sing live then watch their MBC Gayo performance

@@prmmdnn yea i was going to say the same This youtuber doesn't know that they performed live on mbc He/she could have added that click

@@myab866 probably didn't put the latest Gayo performance because this is the SBS Gayo, but I doubt he/she will because I noticed that even though aespa had a lot of live performances in 2022 this UKpostsr never included a single bit and always put them in the lip sync side. Probably an anti.

@@prmmdnn I don't think they're an anti lol. They gave Ningning credit here and called them 4th gen brst vocalists. They draw lots of aespa fanart and always talk about loving their songs on IG. Be honest too, that MBC Gayo "live" was drowning in backtrack you can barely hear them. As an avid fan of Aespa myself they didn't "have a lot of live stages this year" thats a flat out lie. Unless your so starved for Aespa vocals you think 4 lives in 1 whole fukin year is a lot. Their only big live stage wasn't even in Korea, but Coachella in America where they HAD to sing live or they'd be a joke to the country.

If that what "really well" in your opinion, i don't want to know what "bad" is, such a low standard

​@@user-ty7pu7uh3slow standard is only you for any potential human being in your life

@@user-ty7pu7uh3s Seems like you're an amazing singer, why don't you try dancing and singing Guerilla?

@@user-ty7pu7uh3s girl i dont think you understand the style of those songs

​@@user-ty7pu7uh3s there is only 3 lvls: 1) "Perfect" professional musicians 2) "Reall well"/"good" - pop stars with good vocals and only vocal training 3) "bad" - everyone else who cant sing i hope it helps

This is a little out of nowhere but I learned ateez's halazia choreo earlier during dance class and let me tell you - my respect for them keeps growing the more I learn their choreos! I could hardly breathe let alone sing after dancing to only the chorus of the song!? Like gee how insane of a performer can one be? Truly incredible

Only the main vocal is the only singer to go fully live cuz the guy actually give himself his moment to actually sing , the other are the rappers ( not singing ). The rest rely too much in backtrack cuz they can’t sing well while dancing all out ( they try tho , but the result will be them out of breath ), in orden to do that they need to train as a Broadway singer or jk of BTS.

@@mev9752 JK does have some mighty lungs on him but I think even he'd struggle to be fully live and hitting all the notes with choreo as hard as guerrilla or halazia tbh! Also members of BTS also sometimes have relied heavily on loud backtrack such as Jimin and V, esp during Fake Love era.

@@purpleantidote6120 he doesn’t sing on the adlibs of the backtrack , but he still sing after that , specially in concerts cuz he has to sing too much and the time he doesn’t sing is when he is sick or was sick or has problem with his earpiece ( which is a technical problem ). Example : in the Grammy performance of butter is like the one time ( the other was in a concert when it was like s joke ) he doesn’t sing the vocal run of “bad” part while he spins around , ( hitting every move ) cuz he just had COVID. Meanwhile in the other performances he does perfectly specially if they have to perform one time ( TV or award shows ). Even for one time the rest of the singers , like Beyoncé can’t do that. Even MJ couldn’t sing in all the dance performances choreo so he had to put a backtrack ( you can tell he wasn’t singing)

Actually, sometimes they are neither singing live or lipsyncing. I've noticed San has parts where he regularly doesn't sing or move his mouth with the backing track (probably because he's pre-decided he needs to catch his breath in that spot). I respect that. It also makes it move obvious that he's mostly live when he starts singing again.

Thanks alot for appreciating our boys's talent and fr ateez is super talented too. And I too wish the fanwars didn't exist

As a stay I feel the same way about ateez! Every now and then i see fancams of their performances pop up on my feed and BRO! They are true performance monsters!! Ateez and the kids are some of the best performing groups out there imo

I just love both SKZ and ATEEZ. They're all actually besties. No fanwars pls.

Thank you so much for appreciating Stray Kids, I wish our fandoms weren't most of the time in fanwars. And about Ateez, they have so much stage presence and their vocals are no jokes honestly

Skz and ateez interaction in kingdom was heartwarming. It hurts to see stays and atinys fight all the time. Both the groups are extremely talented. I really wish people would appreciate their group without putting other groups down

O my god I was also at that concert. All of the members are amazing singing live but especially Taehyun and Yeonjun. Honestly I can barely breathe while dancing so I have so much respect for people who can sing and dance at the same time

Exactly

TXT literally confirmed themselves that they always perform live? this is non sense

​@@Study_with_txt no idol on gods green earth always performs live and theres so many reasons for them to do that beyond "theyre just lazy ", i love txt and theyre my ults but lets not be delusional now

@@angelelelelalalalalelae TXT still doesn't lipsync. Yes they always play their pre-recorded vocals every performance for support but that's different from lipsyncing where the mics are totally off. So TXT's performance is always live, Taehyun already said it so stop questioning their statements.

Esp true in the ateez one! I was shocked at how loud they really were in the fancams

I've noticed that a lot for most music shows. If I can't hear them, I first go to the official fancams (solves it most of the time) and then to fan-filmed videos if needed.

That’s why I never understood how people could make videos on how much groups sing live using the official audios. It’s so hard to distinguish sometimes, and the audio used could very well be a shaky-pre recorded version that sounds live. Unless they’re dying for breath, I usually don’t “believe” in official audios.

Yeah when I went to see Stray Kids live I was floored by Lee Know’s live vocals, not because I was “shocked” that he has a good voice because I knew he does, his voice is lovely, but I didn’t think he could project his voice as much as the others solely because the way most music shows are mixed, his vocals sound the quietest even when I can tell that yes, he’s singing over the backing track-it’s faint but I can hear it. But my word, that man can PROJECT. His voice was so clear and loud and maybe not flawless (whose voice is after 15 choreos) but beautiful all the same.

yes, their comeback is amazing 😭💙

Comeback is fantastic

Also free fall is a masterpiece!!

Yes and they still attacks her for saying that she is a bad vocalist. She is fact much better than most 4rd gen main vocalist 😢

Exactly...She is better than half the idols with vocal postions coz they cant actually sing live while dancing or just choose not to.. Ppl still hate her for being a "bad vocalist and dancer".. its hypocrisy fr..

@@katiaazevedo4734 love lia but she definitely is not,,, technically she’s one of the weakest 4th gen gg main vocals. She has a nice tone and great mid-low notes but anything higher, whether it’s belting or falsetto, she’s pretty weak

Yess and she is not originally a dancer too, and its always fine if a main vocalist not really good at dance cause they have to sing stable.

Now she is sick and in hiatus.Hope she gets well soon. ❤

im really happy that she sang ost of her lines and didnt care that she was out of breath thats dedication

@@ichigo441 she sings live everytime she can, today she sang at their 1st place win and she was the loudest :D

@gra that's good, starship should have given them an easier song so they could sing live and avoid this controversy from happening in the first place, they don't deserve the hate

their comeback this year is even a bigger and harder slap to them haters, they sang all of I Am and Kitsch's performances live and slayed every encore despite the song being so high and hard to sing, especially Leeseo who had to sing her and Rei's part which she did amazing and impressively

@@user-jo7ep6hf4x I know right? I started stanning them so hard after I AM

late but your so right, starshit was doing that on purpose because they could have sent liz to do the strawberry moon :(

Ikr,but in 3rd gen groups like EXO,Red Velvet,NCT U at first debut sing live but they never used that to aespa idk why

@@vaniakanti593 nah , SM would never let them sing live while dancing cuz they know they can’t sing while dancing fully. Actually most of the singers in the industry in general can’t , only Broadway singers, and in kpop Industry the only one that do that is Jk and jhope with rapping. The main vocals of TXT and lsf have pontencial tho. But you need to train like jk or a Broadway singer. Before it wasn’t needed to go all dancing while singing but BTS made it a trend so now everyone tries , but without the proper training, so they just lipsync or loud backtrack. Pd: all of you got fool or don’t understand what I meant , DANCING hard choreo hitting every move at the same time as singing . None of the 2 gen did that lol specially SM lol. The only close to that was 2pm but you can tell they weren’t hitting that hard or chordinate , BTS made popular hard hitting choreo while dancing cuz that’s one of the reason they starting trending in international platforms like social media tumlr , people though they were a dance team lol. But most of that was posible cuz jk of the way jk trained his voice while working out , and the rest rest practice their choreo with mask ( so they can get used to less oxygen). All that singing “while dancing “ from the groups people are mentioning , that you heard is backtrack , playback or simply they aren’t even dancing that hard so they can sing. For example they put the chorus of their song just the track so the members can do the choreo specially if the chorus is all of them “singing together “. Like SM do all the time. Seriously are you even that naive ? Edit : the comments don’t know how to read ?! I said HITTING every move , other idols sing and dance but the aren’t dancing all the way out or singing all the way out , the only one I have seen doing that is jk and jhope with rapping. If you seen other ones , then recommend me a video were that ACTUALLY happens.

@@mev9752 idk abt that,but maybe you're right.but i like more when idol catch their breath bcs singing while dancing compared to lypsinc

​@@vaniakanti593 Yeah.. well I don't exactly remember for debut stages. It's really weird that they don't let aespa sings. I think they're just following trends of perfectionism? It makes me sad bcs they make the idols even more like "product" than human / artists. Then again I guess the ent & industry see these idols more as performers than singer/artist....

​@@mev9752 Girl, where did you get that information? Cause 2nd gen has been singing live while dancing since. Even the video said that the 2nd gen idol singing live is so natural cause her generation never really 'allowed' lip syncing. What 'actually singing while dancing trend' are you talking about? When in actuality, the 'trend' now is to not sing at all, only 4th gen have that thing. 3rd gen idols even had MR removed back then so people could make fun of how badly they sing. LOLS.

what song did lia sang?

​@@karenetania7812 love maybe, ost from business proposal

@@stephanie1026 it's " love maybe" not blue flower

@@karenetania7812 oh really sorry

tbf Ryujin's lines are easier than the others

she got tired of not singing and said "let me slay this part quickly"

can yall tell me the songs pls 😭

@@joywis_w rewind by fromis_9!

It's not something to be mad about as they've lipsync sometimes like every other groups it's not a crime.Generally fans find one performance they lipsync and assume for every stage which is not the case so it's not something much of a big deal

@@chetnaprajapati8972 the allegation is that people are saying they don't sing at all, it was pretty damn frustrating to be called 100% lypsincing when they prepared for their performances and go with it with their utmost passion. Who would not feel insulted if they are judged blindingly for their passion?

Txt dont have fixed positions But yeah we can consider taehyun and huening as main vocals😄

Yess I loved their good boy gone bad performance

i really hope to see txt one day in person 😭 i just know their songs would be next level when performed

I feel like Soobin actually DOES sing live often though he may skip the falsetto parts sometimes. If I was doing a sings live most ranking for TXT it'd be like Taehyun, Soobin, Yeonjun/Kai, Beomgyu. Like, in their debut days Soobin def sang which is how he got caught in that glitch during Crown on one of their promo stages.

Ikr. Txt performance in concert or festivals outside Korean music show just hit different. Like you can really feel the energy and they hype the song like rock performers.

he really is! people really discredit him (mostly multistans) but he is always energetic! never caught him slipping

halazia too

J'ai vue plein vidéo de FANCAM de ce journée Tu peut aller regarder et revenir sur cette page pour voir la différence ils était entrain de chanter en live la personne qui a créé cette vidéo n'aime pas NCT il faut être honnête même si on n'aime pas un groupe on dit pas des mensonge pour leur rabaisser

@@limevya1656 ok now you’re being delusional

@@gebikdugong6286 I am scared to translate what this person said.

@@moaengene2172 that person said "I saw a lot of FANCAM video of this day You can go watch and come back to this page to see the difference they were singing live the person who created this video does not like NCT you have to be honest even if you do not like a group we do not tell lies to put them down"

Fr

Great video still although I don't have the beast hearing but I does think there is a bit backing track in Doyoung and Ning Ning performance. You can hear that Ning Ning voice is doubled at the beginning. Of course it is very minimalistic even if we just compare it with Lia's performance.

Or like make a rating video like this for older groups?

Can you make a video like this for older groups like BAP/VIXX/LABOUM etc..? Please make a comparison between older groups vs new groups

Would love analysis of TREASURE too if you could thanks

I was waiting for treasure .....

Yeah the amount of hate they get over vocals is crazy when they are actually having quite a lot of live performances. Like you said they have even done a no vocal backtrack performance on Blue Dragon Awards.. how often do we see that from 4th gen groups? Nobody should be faulting them for not trying to perform live at very least, no matter what you think of their abilities.

@@dfasdfgdsfdf588 they've only sung live in like too stages...

@@ir4txe They sing live in 2 stages out of 3 they did on SBS gayo..and that doesnt count so many stages on other awards and events and only on MAMA and MMA they didnt sing live (other groups too)..IVE has been singing live since debut with Eleven on music shows.

@@ir4txe who are you lying to? theyve sung live many times.

Its crazy how they got hate so much although theyve been singing live since eleven era

Ive are stable singers and performers and keep improving all the time. People were hating on the maknae? She is actually really good at singing and I am confused and sad to hear that. Was it from the mbcgayo duet, bc people were just dumping hate in the stupidest, most unnecessary and hypocritical way only bc ive is popular. Ive lipsyncs less than, or at most, equally, to all the other groups out there.

People complain about them lip syncing and when they don’t they don’t talk about it 😭

did you guys care when dives were cyberbullying underaged garam? i dont see any dives etc apologizing after she was proven innocent. Hypocrites as usual though. Yall bully or overlook your fandoms bullying others but as soon as your favs get a single criticism, they're now the biggest victims. Yall are obsessed with making them victims while ignoring real victims.

@@SueweetieAJYPN she's literally lying. they only said her and wy were lip syncing while sitting down and saying it was embarrassing etc. people literally coddled them in this situation by constantly saying "i love ive but" "ive has great songs but i cant ignore this". For anyone being rude it was probably like 10% to 90% but they ONLY focus on the minimal criticisms and call everything hate while they go around cyberbullying and leaving their own criticisms on other minors. WY literally got the most backlash. Also, this video proves absolutely NOTHING. I can lip sync 8/10 times while another group lip syncs 3/10 and you choose the 2 times i sang live versus any of the 3 times another group barely sang live.

@@haiIey you want a cookie for doing the bare minimum? their job?????

I don't follow Nmixx, but you make a fair point.

Yes. I disagree with its percentage. Some is not lipsync, but they sing it in a lesser volume.

Once again another fandom bringing Lesserafim’s name in something that has nothing to do with them just so they can make a point as if you couldn’t do that without me them on top of that just straight up telling lies. Lesserafim did sing live with a backing track. Next time don’t lie on or mention Lesserafim name

@@stellakatula1439 Calm down...The performance I was referring to by Le sserafim was a cover by The Boys that was totally payblack, it didn't even have a backing vocal, just an echo as reinforcement (doubled with a choral not correlated with the main line) all enhanced in post production. And this is so obvious that not even they disguised it - which in my opinion is a positive thing. I didn't just mention Le sserafim, but precisely the top groups of this generation, which, compared to NewJeans and Ive, Le sserafim is vocally the most consistent. But relax, the vocals were never the biggest attraction of the group, they don't need to take full advantage of them to hit because they are not their main income for sales advertising... Unlike a considered portion of smaller groups. I would even understand if there was any Ive fandom complaining about what I said, because it would make sense. If there's one group out of the three that I mentioned that really gets disproportionate hate, it's Ive... So you don't need all that. For the size that Le sserafim is, and for the problems that the group has already gone through, believe me, this is a remarkably comfortable group in proportion to the hate other groups receive.

yes, i understand and also they need to rest their voices because they always sing live nonstop in their first year for two comebacks and then jinni left , they really need to adjust all of their choreo and songs before their 2nd comeback releases

people love to discredit them both for no reason. they're amazing live singers and put so much effort into their performances i really appreciate them

Not taehyun

@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc lol why is it edited? But yes to Taehyun 😌

@@yeonbibi191 bc I accidentally spelled his name wrong also his vocal technique is weak while jongho is average so not taehyun but he got a pretty vocal tone

Taehyun definitely not .. there are few vocalists who are better than him

She really is like that lol i remember watching a few of their we go and feel good stages and I wonder, "is this really live?" And then hayoung just pops off and I go "oh it's not except for song hayoung again"

… that’s why they’re this way 🙈 they said they used to treat every cb as their final bc they didn’t know if they could continue on. 🥺

Letting their talents speak for themselves...

They love singing and performing

God no

@@pao94 GOD YES

FACT.

Yesssssss jungwon is so underrated thanks for recognising his efforts

@@Asane60 yeah, whenever I watch their performance, Jungwon stands out for me with the most stable voice, and I have a huge respect for him for trying to clearly sing all his lines without skipping, no matter how hard their choreo is. (The same thing I love about Ni-Ki, though he is not a strong singer, he does his job diligently, doing the best he can)

@@taemixtape yes 🤧🤧

Exactly

Same

Exactly!! I think it’s because of so many popular videos like this Over the past year or so that sm actually let Ning Ning and doyoung sing live

@@lillycamp8892 that's not true, as long as they don't have choreography, SM lets their idols have the mics on,, examples bbeing Suho and Chen for their solos and Dream in this show's performance

@@diana913 then why we’re the Christmas song stages with Wendy boa ningning all prerecorded vocals? It almost looks like it was originally live then sm edited in prerecorded vocals over it

it’s because she’s incredibly stable and consistent. but one thing for sure and is shown is that she at least sing’s all the difficult notes/high notes

@@Jim-mw8xw 1:28 does that look live to you?

The thing is a lot of them, especially in festivals like this, are actually live in person but for some reason when they stream it or upload the official performance online, they ramp up the prerecorded vocals so we can barely hear them sing. But the audience watching it in person can hear them really singing live.

@@snflwrchan8019oh this !! You should watch the concert itself and judge them based on that, not that some kind of video or online platform,

yeeah true just look KPOP group lip sync fail then you will see them got exposed. Some even sounds really live but they actually lip sync. Really i only trust music show encore for live nowadays.

true they have sing live on festivals so many times, and performed live quiet frequently

They remind me towards B.A.P 😂

Heeseung is the only one who gets praises for his vocals others dont most of the time

@@Asane60 yes and he deserved all those praises

@@vivtynio3446 yes he deserves

​@pj verma I'm not a stan of any of these groups though? And who said I dont appreciate lsrfm i just want them to sing live more often

The lip syncing situation was simply too pathetic lmao, it's a shame because IVE has proven they can sing live, and they'd do it infinitely better while sitting. Also hanni is def a stand out, I hope the other members can follow her steps

You sure doesn’t go to concert and listen live there, le sserafim is really good in reality live while the backtrack and sound of in video or live video keep louder than them, lol just made an assumption based on one video, and say that “I like them but” lol just say that you want to start a war by bringing down one group to praise your fav, such a joke 😂

@@wiedazul2602 Yo chill, Op said 'I just hope that they can sing live more, they have been lipsyncing a lot' that's it, and it's honestly true. Fearless era had only 2 live stages on the promotion period (and an extra one on KBS summer special) while Antifragile had no music show live performance. Outside of music shows, there' has been only like 5 to 6 instances when they sung live and ngl, it's depressing that a 9 month old group sang live only like 10 times

@@sepulvedavicente they also literally have the hardest choreo for any girl group, including all their year end stages. hell, even HYBE ceo said that hes never even seen BTS or TXT do choreo as difficult as anti fragile