It's not even close guys. This year Jokic is: 1st in Box +/- 1st in offensive box +/- 1st in defensive box +/- 1st in Value over Replacement Player 1st in PER 1st in Win Shares 1st in Win Shares/48 minutes 1st in Offensive Win Shares 2nd in Defensive Win shares (next to Rudy) Basically that's every advanced stat that matters. And Jokic is THE player on the best/most feared team in basketball. Without him, they collapse. How is that not MVP? Seriously man. Deserves because he doesn't have one? Since when is that a criteria? Luka is great, but "most valuable" belongs to only 1 guy, and it's Jokic.

EXCEPT JOKIC IS THE MVP UNQUESTIONABLY!!

I think he meant that Kyrie has had drama more or less every year for the past few seasons. His first clean season in a while was next to Luka.

The lack of drama is what they mean by overcoming it since Kyrie’s track record suggests he would have done something by now but hasn’t. Overall, they’re saying Luka is keeping Kyrie in check

Facts you haven't heard nothin bout Kyrie in Dallas but now all of a sudden Luka overcame kyries drama? Ts is ridiculous

@@Beeboh nobody keeps Kyrie in check besides himself.

Yeah that was idiotic

so we gonna rob jokic another mvp?

Embiid was averaging better stats this season before he got injuried.

@@StarryNight4024 Embiid was averaging 36 ppg 6 ast and 11 reb (53) before his injury, Luka averaged 34 ppg 10 ast and 9 reb (53) . They are equally impressive

@@destroiz On higher efficiency, and less minutes per game as well. I was just answering the hypocrisy in the post.

Rent free

never won B2B

Bc they're casuals... San Antonio never gets love, it's nothing new

Name the dynasty of those 5 that the Spurs knock off.

Everybody including prime Heat

@@BoiWondaful prime heat wasn’t there.

He was also the MVP of that All Star game - and the Rising Stars Challenge Game MVP in his bedut season couple years before that

ROY, all star at 22, yeah a real bust

People may not always agree with him and can find him obnoxious but the guy is a borderline genius

Except he forgot Pippen had 2 rings in 1992.

Compared to cowherd, miles ahead.

@@kpNov23 that's like being the tallest midget...

Ya I don’t know how so many people hate on Nick he is great at what he does!

Love to see it

Jokic, SGA, and even Brunson and Tatum deserve it more

Tatum stacked team worse stats across the board. Shai I could see because nobody on earth saw the thunder at #1 but Chet’s defense and jdubs improvement caused that more than shai playing the same as last year. I like Brunson in the conversation but definitely not. Jokic did exactly what everyone expected the defending champs to do on a stacked roster. For the mavs to be in this position they needed doncic to play better than ever with all the injuries and patched in roster

@@Seddysaid What an idiotic statement

@@SeddysaidThat is a ridiculously ignorant statement.

This year Jokic is: 1st in Box +/- 1st in offensive box +/- 1st in defensive box +/- 1st in Value over Replacement Player 1st in PER 1st in Win Shares 1st in Win Shares/48 minutes 1st in Offensive Win Shares 2nt in Defensive Win shares (next to Rudy, who didn't make your MVP ballot) Basically that's every advanced stat that matters. And Jokic is THE player on the best/most feared team in basketball. Without him, they collapse. How is that not MVP? Seriously man.

jokic should won this year, but embiid winning last year is an evidence that it can be participation trophy lmao. I wish jokic won't get robbed another mvp he deserves.

"he should've won it last year" isn't a sympathy trophy either

It’s not but NBA history has treated it as such. Otherwise we would have barely any MVPs. Jordan and Lebron would each have 10 plus

@@dickvitale4332 and that level of thinking is why 💩 never changes

Everybody who knows a little basketball Knows "nicko the Clown" is mostly Wrong

I really don't think we can call Jokic a great bro.. who has he beat? No Admiral, no Yao, no Shaq, no Duckworth, no Ewing, no Arvydis Sabonis.. he doesn't even play against any Dirks or Garnetts or Kemps or chucks, etc.. His only real competition has been Embiied and Nurkic... and Embiid usually beats him. Not a great yo

@@jdfraed123that’s absurd, we’ve seen jokic perform at all time great levels against historically great big men, AD and giannis are all-time defenders and they can’t guard him

​@@jdfraed123 jokic is better than all the name you mentioned combined. you are welcome.

@@jdfraed123 off topic abit, but love your mention of Sabonis, sadly people will not understand as in NBA he was already past prime and without legs and not that hard to beat. Tho I think Sabonis at his peak was better than Jokic is at his, as Sabonis can do literally everything what Jokic now does + highflyer. Saying that, I for sure think that Jokic IS all time great, as he can do everything and beat opponents in alot of ways, not 1 dimensional like SHAQ for example (not shitting on SHAQ, 1 dimensional but hardy anyone stopped him).

And so are AD, Kawhi and Jrue Holiday. Kawhi also with a Finals MVP. On top of that, we may have new champions now, if Boston wins for example, Tatum would be a champion.

@@12garkand kd

@@jacksonswartzer7440 yeah, I thought Bron/Steph/KD against MJ/Bird/Magic equals out

​@12gark In reality, it probably goes Beon/Steph and KD's way. They may be older than the other trio when they played the 92 Olympics but Nick was right, Magic had retired, still great, but at the end. Bird could barely walk, let alone play. The only thing was Mj was in his prime. Tbh, the trio for the 92 dream team was Mj/Charles and Scottie, that would be a better and tougher comparison

😂😂😂😂that’s what I thought to LMAO

He’s been running with this narrative to prop up the players around Kyrie and because he doesn’t like him either. It’s blasphemous

He couldn’t even make the playoffs before Lebron went back there!😂

@@blaketindle4703 bro he played like 1-2 seasons before bron got there. He won ASG MVP. Busts can’t do that.

@@drmamg29173 seasons

Hyping up 25/10/9 when luka is 34/9/10 lmao

it’s like sometimes they don’t hear themselves talk sometimes. he also said dream team vs this years olympics team “steph and lebron aside” who would win? like what..?

Yeahhh that’s crazy. That’s why they don’t have a vote.

Nah because of the stats, and what, maybe like 10 MVP moments, and like 25 MVP “did you see that?!” Plays. Does SGA have 3 mvp moments? No

To be fair, that's largely because there are a lot of REALLY good European players in the league now, like Luka and Joker, which make the European teams a lot more competitive than they were in 1992. But I agree that the Dream Team is GOATed.

Euro ball now is 1000x better now than it was back then. The dream team inspired a lot of people in Europe and you can see that influence now in the current NBA. Back then the US were basically the only nation that played basketball seriously, the only other nation would be the Soviet Union but they were at War and imploding at the time. So saying the Dream team blew teams out more than modern Team USA doesn't really say anything

Colin was the one speaking nonsense about this current team. This team would beat the dream team

💯

You sound like you play with glue in the special class 🤡🤡

​@@kentrichardson9648what was said that's so wrong? Nick was way off on his warriors predictions in 2022, and his nuggets prediction in 2023

No he wasn't. Warriors 2022 run is the saddest run in the past 20 years.

@@nategarner4508 call it what you want but he was wrong. They won and he predicted they wouldn't. They beat the celtics who supposedly had a historically great offence. And he himself said he was obviously wrong

poor Scottie. always forgotten 😂

Luka cries too much. God hates a cry baby.

You sure? He's been right about the Chiefs, Bills, Nets, Clippers, etc for years. But go off I guess lol

He’s right way more than anybody gives him credit for😂

Literally dawg

The Knicks were not in the playoff last year? Wtf?

Well they looked old tonight in that beat down

@@datsapaddlin one game... I'm more interested in the last half of the season to give me a hint of what it will be line next season.

A lot of the guys for that dream team would be considered huge letdowns these days. Malone,Stockton, Barkley, obviously laetener. Mullins was just good, pippen was a #2 option at best, and at the time bird was still good but clearly a shell of his old self. The dream team guarding these guys 30 feet from the basket would be hilarious

Yeah sadly true 😂

Yeah sadly true 😂

i never heard that...could be wives tale!!!

Not it's not. As @raleighstein9227 above you said: "okić was fifth in total points, third in total rebounds, second in total assists, and eighth in total steals. He’s the only player in NBA history to be top-10 in all four categories in a single season. Nikola was the only player in the NBA that was top-15 in average points (twelfth), assists (fourth), and rebounds (fourth) this season. Jokić led the entire league in on/off offensive efficiency with plus-18.9 points per 100 possessions. He was first in total plus-minus at plus-682. Jokić was first in VORP (Value Over Replacement Player), PER (Player Efficiency Rating), Win Shares, Offensive Win Shares, Box Plus/Minus, Offensive Box Plus/Minus, and Defensive Box Plus/Minus. Every single Nuggets starter had a higher effective field goal percentage with Jokić on the floor compared to him off it. Jokić was the only player in the league that averaged at least 25 points, 10 rebounds, and 9 assists. He's the sixth player to ever put up these numbers. Nikola was second in total at-rim assists and total two-point assists. He was first in total steals by a center. Jokić was fifth in total deflections in the NBA. He was second in the NBA in non-restricted painted area field goal percentage at 61.7 percent (minimum 100 attempts). This is typically where players take floaters and hook shots from. He finished second in total points in the painted area. Jokić was first in post-up points and assists. He also led the league in total points and total assists from the elbows. Jokić recorded the second-most double-doubles in the league with 68 and the second-most triple-doubles with 25. Nikola had 21 games of 25-point triple-doubles, which led the league." It's not even close man.

A contrarian

Nah, Joker leads in virtually every advanced stat that measures value: VOPR, Box +/-, PER, win shares, on/off and like 6 others. He means MORE to his team than any other player, which is the definition of most valuable, and he single-handedly carries Denver to be the best team in the league. It literally doesn't get any more MVP than that. Luka is having an amazing year that would be MVP worthy in most other years, but not this one.

@@garyco766 Nah, Mavs are winning it all this year! You don’t want Luka to feel what Jokic felt last year, right?

@rmr9345 LOL, okay, I got it now; you're a Mavs fan with a strong bias. No point in further discussion as reason has left the building. Well, I hope if the Nuggets don't win it that your Mavs do... just don't count on it.

Joker leads in virtually every advanced stat that measures value: VORP, Box +/-, PER, win shares, on/off and like 6 others. He means MORE to his team than any other player on any other team, which is the definition of most valuable, and he single-handedly carries Denver to be the best team in the league. It literally doesn't get any more MVP than that. Luka is having an amazing year that would be MVP worthy in most other years, but not this one.

@@garyco766 1 nobody should be using all the advanced stats because I guarantee if I asked you to name everything that goes into the algorithm for each of those stats you’d have to look it up 2 jokic on off numbers don’t impress me because the reason is less to do with him and more to do with the fact that Denver doesn’t have a backup center. Yes they have 37 year old deandre Jordan who played 36 games but you don’t get to credit a bad backup to jokic being that good. If any other team has no backup they’ll have great on off numbers too. Imagine in baseball one team has Marco Scutaro as a backup shortstop (a position that he played) and another team has David Ortiz (who only ever played designated hitter) obviously the team with Ortiz can’t field when the starter is out

U realize kyrie wasn’t called a cancer till after he left cleveland. This was before his Celtics and nets fiascos

Ummm…Luka already surpassed bron in offensive skills. Not sure how you think bron is the better player. By every statistical measure, Lukas last two years were better than any single season of bron. And he did it during a time when the west was loaded. We haven’t seen a west this loaded since Kobes era.

⁠@@clee8019yeah you’re crazy. Luka is incredible but not close to lebron in his youth and prime.

@@stackonez7182 prime bron was only better at two things than Luka : 1) lowering his head and being a freight train to the hoop and 2) freak athleticism/dunking. Luka is the better shooter (midrange, 3pt, and FT), has a better handle, has better footwork, better post game, better at improvising and making difficult shots, and is an equally good passer. Just pull up highlights of each player. 99% of brons highlights are amazing feats of athleticism (crazy dunks and finishes). Luka’s ability to get a shot off and make that shot is on another level.

@@harjotdehal2171 I agree with you on him not being considered a cancer at the time but brother in the video Colin says word for word “considered difficult or a bust in Cleveland. Lebron had to solve that Rubik’s cube”. All I’m saying is that take is all sorts of bad.

This guy gets it

conjecture!

@@mariopippin3008 Supposition!

Advanced analytics are literally designed to measure value. And Joker leads pretty much all of them.

Joker leads in virtually every advanced stat that measures value: VORP, Box +/-, PER, win shares, on/off and like 6 others. He means MORE to his team than any other player, which is the definition of most valuable, and he single-handedly carries Denver to be the best team in the league. It literally doesn't get any more MVP than that.

Especially if they let them play Defense like they did in 90's. Today's players would need their mommies and therapy after getting fouled in the paint.

Wouldn’t be close

I disagree

@@3jallenl who’s the starting 5? Bron , Steph, who else?

@@kiingphresh9328 Bron, Steph, KD, Embid and Antman. No weaknesses anywhere except Steph on D maybe.