Respect 🕶

Are you ever going to release ur version even if it’s a demo ?

I don't get the hate with The Day Before game. The game is not even on any kickstarter program or preorders. The devs of that game is simply trying to attract investors, and the people who don't know anything about creating something is fucking their ass hard.

Don't forget a seasoned investor will expect a prototype, if an investor relies purely on a trailer or an idea, they're idiots! A trailer also serves a function to validate if there is even an interest in the game, it shouldn't matter if the investor likes the game alone, they would want to ensure that it can actually sell.

@@bondi9mmgaming304 Did you watch the video, he addressed your question more than once.

Fr time to make some money

FR

gamers are unfortunately very gullible lol

​@@jess648 gamers are consumerist worms who don't deserve rights.

When people lack knowledge or understanding in something they end up replacing the lack of information with a fantasy that logically makes sense to them. Ignorance is like a plague these days.

Even now morons still think the Day before just ran into financial trouble lol they just can't wrap their mind around it being a scam

Its like patrick 😂.

Oh hey Surprise? *Go* *Fund* *Me* Or what was it? *Early* *Access?* XD What about this , *Battle* *Pass* HAHAHAHAHA Ofc *You* *Willingly* at your discretion XD

@@tiefblau2780 Um.. what?

@@SteveEchelonanon Did you buy the game? Who Willingly spend your whatever hard earned

Don't forget a seasoned investor will expect a prototype, if an investor relies purely on a trailer or an idea, they're idiots! A trailer also serves a function to validate if there is even an interest in the game, it shouldn't matter if the investor likes the game alone, they would want to ensure that it can actually sell.

@@AntiochEthereal Plenty of western studios have scammed investors and pre-purchasers as well. Just saying. It's more important just to wait for a game to be released and reviewed at this point IMO.

@@AntiochEtherealOr, you know, wait for organic gameplay and reviews. Don't know why you're singling out specific regions for this (and moreover insinuating that literally everything out of them is a scam, implicitly including things like indie games made by random people...).

Vertical slices are basically required for any reputable investor or publisher, but this has it's own issues. Studios, especially smaller less funded ones, are incentivized to spend the first 6 to 12 months of the game development cycle on a vertical slice that doesn't have scalable systems. When a publisher or investors see this they think that the game is ready to go into testing because it's in a "playable state". So they push release timelines to ASAP. Which leads to this unfinished paid-testing "early access" hell we have now.@@JupiterSaturn69

it could be real! so i will play soon!

Or do it like the Chinese. Develop 1 mobile PC Game and release like 10 copys under different names on Steam and pull them and rerelease them over and over. lul I swear my Steam Recommendations is full of the same games under different names lel

Interesting note about this but there were a few companies doing this on Steam and they got a letter basically telling them to stop or get their account deleted

​@@leana339 Why Chinese? A lot of Americans do just as much.

Pretty sure this happened with Junkyard Simulator. Glad I didn't end up buying it..

@@methamphetamememcmeth3422 not nearly the volume. Don't play dumb.

You worked for PlayWay S.A? I noticed this publisher put many fake trailers on Steam a few months ago

@@orys7420 I cannot tell ;)

So its scam. Should be delete it.

Is that what happened with Phantom Doctrine 2?

Games take years to make. For small teams that cant afford market research, its not a problem

It's super sweet, I'll most likely be using it and modifying it for an actual zombie survival game

You'll lose your mind if you play GTA V then. People change the weather for the whole map on multiplayer all the time.....

@@FirstCrimson ultra dynamic sky is awesome and the most popular one, but I think sky creator is way better and more realistic. But yeah, it's more expensive, unfortunately.

@@quadro1337 I'll take a look into it!

@@De4dSp0t They fixed it like a year ago. The only weather option you as a cheater can force is thunderstorm, which doesnt apply instantly.

Yeah. It really bugs me when someone recreates a portion of game in unreal, the trailer is running at like 20 fps, and people are like "Why doesn't X company make their game look like this!?"

Cheers, I think it's better to be honest as to why I can't make it, transparency builds a better relationship with the community- might not be powerful marketing but I believe in a strong community than an enormous one filled with skepticism.

I mean, technically speaking, he could make an MMO, but it would literally take ages. You can figure out a lot of shit by trying, failing, and then profiling what doesn't work and trying again, and so on. The worst part by far with MMOs actually is content. So let's say he could probably make the actual game systems in a few years, like, inventory, content db for the server, resource management, terrain/asset streaming, player characters/agents with stats, equipment slots and what not (and ofc this is just off the top of my mind) Let's say a few means 5. Well, then it would take him another 10 to do the content, if he were to work alone. To have a "decent" size. That means: assets, animations, VFX, sounds, barks, asset placement within the world, interactive shit, NPCs and their behavior trees (although I think we really need to find a better way cause classic behavior trees are too fucking expensive), triggers for events, event schedules, items and their stats, loot tables, a plot outline -> then -> some actual lore and narrative, all them quests, boids because birds are cool and the more the merrier (same with fibsh), critters and other shit to make the world pop up. But before all that... designing engaging gameplay for lots of people at the same time is hard. So yeah, gimme 20 years worth of salary and I will make you an MMO alone. But that's kinda stupid, isn't it? I mean, there's people who did dumb stuff like this, not alone, but still... 0A.D. were working on that game for like 15 years or something. And I mean, even Ubisoft has the Skull & Bones issue that's been draggin on for an absurd amount of time

@@FirstCrimson Pretty sure that's a part of what makes _great_ marketing. Heavily underused though and for one obvious reason: can't scam people at the same time for quick cash.

​@@arthank1263 3 years for systems is pretty damn optimistic, but *maybe* possible if you're sticking to tried and true and using off the shelf support for this sort of thing, I guess. 10 years for content seems wildly impossible; from what I can find the initial WOW release had a dev team that scaled from 40 to 80 people and it took around 4-5 years. Even with asset stores, even if you assume a bunch of those were devs and artists you don't need, I don't think you're going to cut down that absolute minimum of 160 workyears enough to be done in one lifetime. And that's to make original WoW, and standards are way higher now. Someone's going to suggest AI in response to this, aren't they? Yeah, sure, that would work, for a given value of work at least. Why not. Go nuts.

@@arthank1263 You're heavily disregarding one big part of working on an MMO or large-scale game like that. Mental heath. I've been working on an Early Access game for 3 years and trust me, even that has taken its toll on me, working on a game like that for ages is suicide and even if I was given a salary to work on something (in a dream world), it'd still get pretty grim from a mental health standpoint. At my current experience/skill level, I still wouldn't dive into an MMO even if I was offered a salary for life.

which is unfortunate i always wanted a third person or first person zombie survival game that take place in big cities instead of just empty open spaced grassfields with roads with a few buildings here and there like those dayz-like games but i guess that'll never happen

because its impossible on multiple levels.. the server technology to do something like this on a large scale just doesent exist at the moment, and the anti cheats we have today arent strong enough to prevent the rampant cheating that would occur in such a game. i know for a fact that people wont buy a single player version of it either, so this is where we are at.. the thing people dont understand is that the developers !know! that people want it.. its just not possible for now until we have some major breakthrough in server technology

Just get DayZ or Project zomboid, literally both games have that feel, the latter is an isometric view only but the mechanics and difficulty and the fact you can mod it to your liking makes it worth the buy than some quarter baked loaf of bread.

​@@leaveeeevee5762Cataclysm is free.

@@leaveeeevee5762 "urban division-like map" Dayz biggest city is like a small village compared to IRL, and Project Zomboid is 2D and incredibly clunky to the point that the Dayz Mod looked easy to play. A game like plainspokendanny described doesent exist, and wont exist for quite some time yet. like we'v only now just started to scratch the surface of the server tech needed to do something like it.

A scam after

Nope, it was like if someone was going to rug pull but they slipped on said rug

Welcome back

How long have you been in coma?

Funny enough, they did release the assets and people are working on making it a steam workshop thing for MCC.

​@@okankyoto The MCC dev team (not 343) is putting it in officially too :)

What's X?

"X"☝️🤓

Funny because Watch Dogs is a good game though 🤔

@@SeekersLegacy The game has a good story but Ubisoft lied about the graphics and gameplay. But its just just Ubisoft, EA lied to their viewers on their Battlefield Trailers.

Even some of the greatest games by the best studios have history of faking gameplay trailers. Half-Life 2 had some sequences in gamplay trailers faked with never implemented mechanics played live in front of journalists at E3 2003.

funny story, the graphics from the e3 trailer ARE in the game, they're just disabled.

watch dogs with mods is insane now, i spent like 3 mins downloading a single mod that has other mods bundled on and it changed the entire game. Like it added so many new missions and made the graphics resemblance the e3 trailer more.

Gamers are consumerist worms who deliberately refuse to remember anything & don't deserve rights, and these warnings will not be heeded. You yourself are aware of that fact with your own comment.

The hire this man thing started off as animations people and people who were weapon animators then it morphed into video makers then now we have this.

It's straight from the unreal engine. You can get a "game" up in 5 minutes using the engine.

But did you not see that kick? It was SICK

@@vosdraug4628not true

Highlight of the "game" for me@@Definitely_a_Fox

You clearly don't know anything, he has spent over 300 hours to get to this point and has a lot of experience with the Unreal Engine. A noob would need 3 times as much to achieve what he did @@vosdraug4628

Days Gone did dynamic snow buildup in 2019.

The Last Of US 1 and 2, Red Dead Redemtion, GTA, The Division 1, Batlefield 3, 4, 1, 2042, COD MW3, BO 2, etc There are actually quite a lot of them, an many more that use that specific plugin yet the dont use the runtime weather change function because they do not need it

Half of those games doesn't have "snow buildup", they are just smart materials without build-up function @@AndresOnate3Dart

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@@lazyvoid7107 100% lol

zomboid

@@patoto8389my friend bought a horde to our base💀

@@recruit8921that is just friendly tomfoolery

7 Days to Die. Still in early access though but it does have mods for it.

​@@recruit8921 if you both lived then he gets his legs broken thems the rules

Exactly why I left it in (plus I got lazy)

I'm more referencing future attempts at scams within the industry, but yes it's happened before (I think I mentioned it somewhere in the video, not sure)

So The Last of Us but actually good?

That is actually a great idea. It is a shame that we will probably never live to see it becoming a reality

project zomboid with npc mod or wait till they officially add npcs for (probably) an even better experience

State of Decay, I guess..?

State of Decay, there found your dream game.

Just play state of decay if you want that

yep aleady saved the tutorials playlist, lets start learning!!

OMG, someone else remembers Unturned! It was my jam!

Unturned was a great time

I personally wouldn't listen to anybody saying Unreal will make things easier- it's definitely handy to have all the tools that Unreal provides, without a doubt. But you still need to learn everything that's there and what goes into making a full experience, especially as a solo dev. It's possible though! I got to where I am now after 8 years and when I first started there wasn't as many learning resources as there are now, I'd say just enjoy the process and learn as much as you can, don't get too stuck up on what's the 'right way' of making things and constantly learn/move forward. For a first game though, might take you a bit, really depends since some people are faster learners than others, so I can't give you an estimate on how long it could take you to release a game like the one you're describing