I know it's been a few minutes but I didn't see any issues.

it's not synced.. im watching now

Its off about 29 seonds. However, take it with a grain of salt for i might not be the most accurate. If you push the audio from 9:44 to 10:13, it should solve the problem for most part. Im not sure how to fix the part before that sorry, but thats all i can do.

yeah nah sync's wayyy off

The big brain workaround is to open 2 versions of this video and use 1 tab for the audio and the other one to sync the audio

best comment on this video everyone else is brainwashed

exactly

"when all fades away, leaving nothing but dust, he will be there, holding you in his strong green arms and whispering sweet nothings in your ear... " - Josephine Cochran

ah yes my favourite quote from art of war

Shrek is eternal. Do you know what else is eternal? Sun Tzu quotes.

honestly we all know this... maybe dont know but I dont want to admit that

@blackthorn so now you like guys as well?

Ugh how about biology drives sexual selection

The media is based of our biological sexual instincts and makes profit out of it not the other way around.

@@abisabyss6739 lol our natural biological instinct is not to like fake. And for women's beauty standard being fake is it.

I'm thinking the same thing, TC is attractive in his own way. Maybe he is not muscular, big or appears as a dominant, leading male but his whole face is still attractive in unique way, hence why he is an actor in first place. Many guys can try to mimick his hairstyle but they still wouldn't be perceived as attractive as they want to be. Regardless, this video did good thing portraying how attractiveness is measured by media and how people form their perception of attraction based on it.

Idk i don't really like him thay much, but to be fair, it was a turn off for me when i found out he was a nepobaby

I see nothing attractive in that man

it so obvious. this video is part factual but also full of a lot of bs and fluff. Ugly introvert = creep, attractive introvert = mysterious

@@talalh7247 theres nothing attractive in that man until im in him

well

True, super weird eh?

I mean, not really. It actually makes sense. The male audience comes from the genre of her videos which is commentary/science which more appeals to men, her videos discuss men more than women, they're not feminist. Female audience comes from her being a woman, obviously. Because most of youtubers of this particular genre are men, it may be, let's say, interesting for other gals to see a woman making this sort of videos and they also become interested in the genre

@@grandmamustaine7215 idk about that. I feel like her genre appeals more to women. Men just watch her cause she's attractive.

@@tysonroger4021 Well thats false and sexist.

@@inventions178 nah.

He was created to be the average guy that kicks ass as a superhero.

buts that's like a joker type fantasy

Omggg you totally spoke my mind, that's exactly what I was thinking !! I mean come on, he was bullied through high school, lived in a trash apartment where he could barely afford the rent, and J Jonah Jameson was constantly threatening to fire him. That's no Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent figure to me lol

Depends on which Spider-Man you watch tbh

nah he was always a chick magnet. Black Cat, MJ, Gwen Stacy, Liz Allen, Betty Brant. Dude is funny, extremely fit, mysterious and actually a good person who can keep a conversation.

If it makes sense to you, it's not senseless.

Mfw my left middle finger is broken and curved like a goddamn scimitar Guess I'm not getting any girls😔

@@ivanthaboi my hands are small and feminine. And my fingers are long and boney. It over for both of us

Many women have said that what parts they find most attractive on men vary a lot, but for most men, breasts, butts and curvy hips on women are what causes the most sexual response for us. It discourages me to think that the parts on the same areas on men aren’t as commonly thought most attractive to women because of how attractive those areas on women are to most men. It's always made me angry that there's been so much more interest in seeing the female body displayed in a sexually enticing way than male even by many women. That just leaves more people of one genders sexual desires less satisfied more often. That and many womens curves being largely fat makes it difficult for me to enjoy female beauty as much as I want and has caused me depression. Fat isn't a material that gives a stable body shape, but very loose material stored in it and meant to be absorbed. It isn't a body part. It upsets me to think there isn't as much of a butt on men compared to women and often much less in the chest area of men compared to breasts for women to enjoy seeing. I have depression because of how much people enforce this idea that it's more dependant on the hormones that make men the way we are than anything women have as much of. I don't care to ever have a girlfriend or be married anymore because of them. How do they not think it very depressing that there's been more sexual interest expressed for one gender compared to the other!? They have no problem with such a passionate desire not being mutual most of the time!? Are they crazy!?

Actually media and society have built up men and women more like this rather than more fault of nature . What we see continuously and fed up from surroundings we become one of them .

Really? In my opinion and in the opinion of most of my female gaze Ryan Reynolds’s only fits the male gaze, as all our male friends find him attractive and all of our female friends don’t.

I don't think hes attractive

@@youaretearingmeapartlisa7253 you and me are the minority in this :(

@@MewMewSun I actually was best friends with a girl who dated a guy that looked exactly like him and I'm like " ehh he's okay I guess "

I have mixed feelings. I think that it has lots to do with expectactions. If the most attractive person in a room doesn't like me because i'm not the most attractive person in the room , maybe means that i have false and unreal expectations. And also there's a huge trend to "bear" and "chubby" guys in the gay community. We have a tendence to run away from what women find attractive or what straight man thinks women find attractive. Before , gays guys were the clean, shaved guy with too much perfum ( lavender!) But now that straight guys have adopt this behavior, gays wants hairs, daddy bodies and not parfum.

@@miramuchachito296 yeah that’s so true. I’m a “nice guy” but I do boxing. I don’t really do the gym so I look avg / toned but not muscular. I noticed overtime when talking to guys who were maybe a being bit dry / not sure about me, they completely flip the switch when they find out I do boxing. Also, I have a slight birth defect that means my nose is slightly crooked. Some people never notice (my ex was bluntest person alive & didn’t notice it for months) but if they do and think it’s from boxing suddenly it’s “hot” or “a nice feature”. My ex was Scandinavian and had very pronounced facial features & women tended to think he “looked like a villain” and very cold and gay men tend to think he “handsome” or “bad ass” , they also responded better to his blunt Nordic personality. Male friends found him “genuine” while female friends found him a little rude

@@sams3015 i confirm you that a guy that do box and has a boxer nose is hot. Sorry is like that. A good exemple is here in YT you have videos from russian wrestlers weighting (real wrestlers not the americam show) if you look the comments: only gay men commenting how hot the guys are.

I just don't understand how people can reject some that heartless it destroys me

Welcome to 'how an average man feels like when he gets rejected'

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Thanks. A nice, concise, and small sized chapter selection. This was helpful.

you just copy pasted it from the description

Best bio class I ever took! It was called HumSex (human sexuality) back then 😁

I was checking the comments to see if there was a bit of nuance expressed here, happy to find it! I will check the curse, plus I highly recommend Sex at Down, fascinating book. The whole evolutionary psychology comparing humans to other non social mammals is reaaaally of IMHO

@@jottonellothis whole video was kind of silly. This is Jordan Peterson level logic… misinformation galore

that's what I was thinking

Maybe redoing this experiment with the subjects Friends or acquaintances?

More men get assaulted by strangers than women do. So, no, "stranger danger" is not higher for women.

Then why was there a difference between “going to my apartment” and “have sex with me”, which could happen at any location the girl chooses? Danger levels would be at the very least similar but possibly lower in the sex question bc they could just do a quickie in a public bathroom or something. I can see how women not feeling safe alone with a man can be a confounding variable but the fact that they included both implied and explicit sexual propositions controls for that aspect and reveals there’s more to it than that. Also, on the flip side, they found differences between those conditions when men were asked by women.

@@badwolf3618 do they generally get assaulted by women or by other men?

There's actually a decent amount of research looking into this. While not directly addressing if attractive people cheat more, The Investment Model scale is one of the more commonly used measures for examining whether people will continue in a relationship. The three main factors are satisfaction level, quality of alternatives, and investment size. So if you're very attractive, and you know that you're hot, you probably have a higher quality of alternatives to your current partner. Therefore you may be more likely to break up with them when compared to someone that is less attractive, or at least believes themselves to be less attractive, and so thinks they have fewer other options out there.

There's also the fact a big jacked dude could flip out and be a serious danger with that much strength.

I wouldn't say the most attractive. I'd say the most sexy instead. For example many men liked Emma Watson, but she has a more pretty innocent look, but she's not less attractive than other sexy celebrities.

Snow: It makes sense. People tend to cheat as much as their options.

@@adc1222 I’m ugly and I stay breaking up. 😂

yes!!!

THISSS. Also, I love the man in your username hehehe and it's probably bc he and the rest of nct/kpop male idols fit the female gaze

yes same here ! big build macho guys are such a huge turn off for me . and yes even I am an nctzen !!😀💚

@@Chocolavacakeloco is it becoz of sexual turn on or persnality and emotions

Same bro my charicter in my story is viewed as "a sensitive loser" with mommy issues. But I like him 👉👈

I think the color of you skin takes up your headspace too much. Just be yourself despite whatever you are tbh...

Good for you although I'd be wary of the black pill... It's like nihilism in that you shouldn't let it control you

" I tried so hard to not fit the angry black woman stereotype" So wait... you mean, you actually *are* an angry (black) woman? Imho being a decent person is one of the most attractive properties anyone can have, no matter what gender or skin color.

And I’m blocking y’all because clearly you don’t understand how hard it is to be a black woman. Yes it’s about skin color. Y’all sound really ignorant acting like racism doesn’t exist.

@@LegioXXI im pretty sure she ment that she tried her best not get angry even when it would be justified, because she wouldn't want to be labeled as the angry black woman stereotype.

"asexual" 💀

​@@cesruhf2605Yeah? It's an actual thing. People who rarely or never feel sexual attraction, but may opt for only romantic attraction. 🤯

@@skadaaskadeen talk to me once you find someone with no peepee or poopoo or booboo

@@cesruhf2605wth are u talking about

@@OliverSchlecter you are all insane 😭

i can't imagine rejecting someone harshly. that's so cruel for no reason

what those thin guys said is pretty whack. if i was the clubbing type i wouldn't be saying "oh ya people who im not attracted to shouldn't show up to the club" they should mind their own business. respect to you for keeping it civil with people you're not into. Like i get the fact no one is really OWED common decency but what's so wrong with showing it more. Kindness costs nothing to give but so many rather be dicks about shit for no reason. So props to you for being few with common decency.

Agree. Try to be polite whenever possible even in instances like what you've said. A simple social etiquette most people nowadays forget.

I legitimately don’t understand how certain people can be so narcissistic when they literally contribute nothing to this world

Hurt people, hurt other people

oh my god literally me too lmfao . i didnt like his ass but he was SOOO good in dune… good for him :)

Same haha. I only began really appreciating him after Dune.

They are just handsome! that's it! looks are the personality

the fact that you said 'making you believe' implies that you know that it isnt 100% genuine and doesnt reflect real life. so its not real? i don't understand how something that you know isnt real is more attractive than just a guy being a guy

@@painunending4610 You misunderstood. The assumption is not that it's not real, the assumption is that it's probably real but we don't know for sure. Their personalities are very genuine. BUT. They're still celebrities, and it's good to not be too naive.

same

Omg, you put it so well! Watching Megan Fox in Transformers made me confused about my sexuality & I realized I was attracted to women. But for men, I’m not attracted to the buff, show offy guys. This video was fascinating to me

I think that’s incredibly common.

As a lesbian, I'm attracted to all the types of women in the video. I think I just really like women. Belle Delphine and the female protagonists that women relate to.

@@MissMarvel_ I love that 😌💕

MY BAD

Incoming Charlemagne fans 🙄🙄

You’re not gonna believe how many names the Russian fandom has for Timofei Chardonnay

@@DonnaIRL how did you find all this footage with using that name lmao

Timothee Charlemagne as next Frankish Emperor 🇪🇺👑😍🇪🇺

Even worse, the female gaze can tend towards the male gaze during certain points of the ovulatory cycle (especially during ovulation itself). This muddies the waters even more

Exactly.

exactly

This is sensationalism. 77% of murder victims are men. Women simply scare easier and demand more security than men. Because a male life is more expendable. If you have three men and three women, you can kill two men and still get three families. Kill two women and you only get one family. Women have a psycho-sexual attraction to dangerous men and have a habit of spreading it onto all men with studies created to make sensationalist headlines.

God damn this is such a braindead comment section

@@crimson6952 I know, it’s like I’m losing brain cells

Also most men aren’t even sexually attractive enough to get an instant positive response in that scenario.

I think there’s also the aspect that for a lot of women, enjoyable sex takes more work and partner engagement than it does for a lot of men. Like a dude can be really hot, but if he approaches me for sex and I know absolutely zero about him, even if I negate the safety aspect and the social stigmatization, I could go to have sex with him and end up totally unsatisfied. I know this is possible for men, too, but not to the same degree. Like I’m not going to risk it for mediocre or terrible sex, even if the dude is hot.

The reason that man said yes is bcz most guys are not having sex at all so they will take any opportunity that comes in front of them. It's not bcz of the safety aspect, if that looked like Henry Cavill then all of them would say yes!

Like, yeah c’mon i don’t even know you and you wanna do me? I think it’s hella weird. Dude can be a serial killer and i would never figured it out.

@@livingmasquerade1418 Just because women settle for average or ugly men doesn't mean they want to. I mean look at how high the divorce rate is and who initiates it. Most men don't have super attractive long term partner how does that even make sense

It's also because women are expected to have less partners, and if she sleeps around a lot, then she's cheap. Whereas promiscuous men are celebrated.

Yea, I’ve watched enough true crime shows to know better.

True. Don't everyone watch true crime shows?

THIS. THANK YOU. I'm sitting here like I would love to bang a random guy, I love sex, but the danger is just to much. I wish women had the room to be sexually free but we don't.

@@megrocks3026 yea because getting sex as a man is wayyyyyyyy harder so a man who gets a lot of sex is probably seen as desirable and preselected while men who don’t really get sex are seen as worthless and losers

@Ugh THIS

@Ugh Exactly.

well said and I agree

I love how you made this a “mens” problem, but the whole video is about how men AND WOMEN do it. Classic feminism.

@@continuouswave34 I only mentioned men because obviously I don't know what men think about as a woman, lmao. Classic hate for feminism.

As a dude I dont understand the ryan reynolds thing at all. Timothee chalamet, however, 100% i get it. Dude is dream guy material, and im straight, lol.

one of my male friends once said matthew mcconaughey is the perfect man all who gets all women, and i was like "well... yeah, but no" don't get me wrong, he's not bad looking, but i feel like he's more of a role model for straight guys than anything (also considering he mostly stars in male-oriented films)

@@killerch33z If you think that skinny, feminine boy is "dream guy material" then you need to look around the closet before the broom hits you in the face.

@@Powerhaus88 cringe

@@Powerhaus88 so you're telling me you did not watch the video, please watch it

Uh oh

@@nathancasey7712 uh oh?

@@nightsmelodyful uh oh

Your pregnant?

@@tobiaslawrence8928 what about her pregnant

This video is gaslighting

Letting your insecurity bleed into everything is bad for your soul

That’s true taller men are seen as more attractive

Preach

Wow, the self love part... 🙌🏼🙌🏼

I agree

Hey! An online comment that not only doesn't spew hate or misinformation, but actually bestows some information that is not only true and informative, but also wise and constructive toward building virtue and good character in a way that was interesting! Have a like good sir! (And have a nice day as well!)

Very very very true

Exactly. Every man I've ever known well has been insecure about their bodies

i think we need to make men even more insecure to humble them

no

im genderfluid but why the hell would you do that

@@18poc12poc7ms Wtf is wrong with you??

I wanna be my type tho? Inspirational quote failed

@@ivythealiencat um not rlly, its just a quote for ppl who think they're ugly. if u dont want to think ur ugly, that's on you.

@@nj2342 I dont think I'm ugly. I just dont likemy charicter design. (I dont knwo how else to discribe it)

It's a way to sugar coat you being unattractive to a large percentage of people.

Hope you’re all doing alright.

The comments are going to be TOXIC the minute this video is seen by people outside my subscriber base.

@@DonnaIRL exactly what i thought ahah

I mean... with a topic like this and plus how normalized men and women pseudo hate each other these days... wtf did u guys expect? But in all actually i don't really see it that much in this comment section but this video is still new

@@XZ-III What kind of discussion were you hoping to start with this comment

The comments aren't that bad...so far at least.

As a European male I feel like this is such a American take. Everyone in the US is soo afraid of strangers. People carry weapons, they avoid going outside at night. Kids aren’t allowed to be in public on their own. People are terrified of hitchhiking and terrorism. If you look at the statistics, (even tho the US is like the most violent country ever) this makes no sense at all. None of these things that Americans are so afraid of are actually realistically dangerous at all. Crime rates have gone way down since your parents generation, yet they didn’t have any of these fears growing up. It’s just a cultural thing in the US to be so terrified all the time. I don’t think it’s healthy

Not just life or death, but also rape, assault, pushing boundaries or "taking advantage" like you said, stalking etc. I do agree with SpaceOwl though, the fear culture is real

CAP

no one ever believes male victims

yeah, i don't know if I'd answer "yes" because diseases, because I might get turned down to slavery, which happened numerous times in a past... anything

Sensitivity and emotions in men are only valued when you meet unattractive rich man. Other time most women go for tall, handsome , muscular and attractive men.

@@weaksupremacy3799 and that concludes you did not understand a single thing from what I said. I said Andy, a not very attractive goofy and penniless but sensitive and emotinal man, is the type of guy I liked very easily and naturally. Completely opposite of what you are saying.

@@Raven_Black_252 Women tend to like beta traits when on hormonal birth control. You'd be an exception if you use non-hormonal birth control.

@@longhornmed i don't use at all

@@longhornmed Please stop watching alpha male videos. I'm begging. Look at the men around you who are married. Look at the men in romance movies that are there specifically to appeal to women

True. Women who like traditionally masculine men will be more hesitant to say it in public.

Yeah, I'm wondering how sex appeal gets pinned to numbers?? That sounds too simplistic for me!

Yeah me too. Someone is my type or not but i can objectivly tell most of the time what makes them attractive to other people but i could never put this on a 1-10 scale. Its not build a bear.

Right? I don't even understand how it works ?

It has always felt disgusting to me. I remember it was a trend to do that in middle school on FaceBook. My friend kept asking me to rank this girl from a 1-10 and I felt sick to my stomach and just said 10.

a way to conceptualize it and capture the meaning most people give the rating number is percentile as in, a 7 is roughly more attractive overall than 70% of all possible mates 9 is above 90% of everyone else, 10 is top 1% in my personal experience the similarity from one person to another rating is decently accurate up to a 6 or 7 most of the time, anything above that tends to be super subjective also I'm a guy so obv this is for when men are rating, women rating men is a whole different topic with totally different variables

Yessir

So the rule is if you want to seem attractive to the people of your own sex, look intimidating but if you want a boyfriend or girlfriend, look friendly.

I think they just made it random as to not offend anyone

I haven't finished the video yet but am amazed that the overweight chick was voted 2nd most attractive by herself and other women, that is just entitlement imo

@@Vivi_9 It’s not that surprising really, since the video touched on how women generally don’t view physical attractiveness as a necessity.

If i remember right i think she has studied Psychology. But nevertheless her videos are very interesting

nowadays I feel like people who have studied are trend followers and independent self-taught artists are trend setters... I too used to assume people had formal education on what they are talking but I'm always wrong doing that recently

Lol. I think those are reasons why she probably did NOT study journalism.

Definitely seems like she's studied Freud and Adler, therefore Psychology

And I, on the other hand, love how INformal this video is. This channel stands out from other essay kind of channels because this girl (woman? idk) adds character to her videos. These moments when she's being witty, cracking dumb jokes, etc. make these videos so much more engaging

I mean, that’s the gist of both NiceGuys and NiceGirls. They’re both convinced that the other only wants what they themselves demand from a partner and can’t be convinced otherwise, even if they’re presented with multiple exceptions. I’d be really interested in what triggers those blinders and why so many of them both create and then reinforce their own dating hellscape.

Commenting before watching the video. But: There is an actual reason for this. From a strategic perspective, the goal of being strong is so that you can enforce your claim over a woman by physically separating her from other men. So the purpose of having large muscles isn't to impress the woman, it's to intimidate competitors. In this fashion it is true that being highly muscular helps a man reproduce, and it's why men instinctively focus on muscular men: he's a direct competitor with the intention to get in your way. The problem is that we don't live in a tribal world anymore and a man can't just beat the shit out of any weaker guys that are interested in the woman he wants. So to reconcile this they convince themselves that "I have the instinctual understanding that being strong helps me reproduce, therefore it must be the case that women are attracted to me when I'm strong." Even though that's not true and not actually how it works. Additionally an argument could be made that huge muscles are actively unattractive to women because it implies at an instinctual level that the man intends to remove her freedom of reproductive choice.

You know, you aren't helping by body shaming and generalizing people with big muscles

Probably bc in movies with attractive actors they always get at least one shirtless scene or/and a shower scene. Maybe that's male gazey too but that's what I notice in media that seems geared towards women.

i think you're just insecure

Speak for yourself women who want sexual encounters randomly usually are crazy...

@@AedanBlackheart let's not generalize some judgement towards women based on "usually". The numbers speak for themselves, women are twice more likely to suffer from violence than men. Men that have random sexual encounters would think twice before doing anything if they had twice as many chances to end up dead or abused.

We have many chances to do so. But if we talk about numbers, most victims of assault know their attacker. Unfortunately this is something we can't throw under the rug when we mention safety.

@@alejandroespinosa7085 We have to judge based on usually, thats the same level of judgment you use. And USUALLY females who are naturally more promiquous than their peers are more common to have other undesirable character traits.

@@GiRR007 thats an opinion based on generalization, to make a propper judgement you need to based that on statistics and numbers.

I came here to feel attacked and I'm honestly having a very good time right now.

Facts dont lie.

M-hm. As someone who watches & likes creators from both extremes (say, Critical Drinker, Dr. Shaym, etc. but also stuff from Khadija Mbowe, Tara Mooknee, etc.), I love seeing one creator who can do both, bringing everyone together like an Avatar of some sort. The only other youtuber I personally feel also does this is Madisyn Brown, and if I turn into a creator one day, that's how I want to be as someone who sees both sides.

nah, what we need is for inflation to go down

@@spaghetto9836 ive watched critical drinker, he asseses shit quite finely, and it seems a good portion of what hes saying is true, specifically about terrible writing logic, shutting down your brain is sure fun from time to time, but you cant have it all the time

And also the fact that they could easily get MURDERED

Yooo Léo ? Sympa ! I wish you luck with your animations, they're super funny, keep going my guy, only french animator that does life stories I care to watch, humor is on point 👍

blacklash xD

you mean being judged? backlash is too too far of a aggressive word in terms of connotation but i do agree seeing as women are weaker slower reaction time weaker coordination and slut shame each other to death

@@AXharoth ...? yes? Backlash. Do you need a dictionary or smthn? Lol.

that's very true. My mom always liked to watch kickboxing and fangirled over fighters while her sister preferred boy band groups and more feminine men. Everyone's got their own tastes.

i agree looking at the comments i cant belive there are women who find that pale looking bony guy attractive, nor do i understand the attraction towards Tom Holland.

@@cinnamongirl9024 nah im sorry but if i ever saw tom holland irl id fucking pass out

That's relativism. Beauty has objective standards.

@@matheusg1473beauty doesn’t have objective standards :)

ok this chefs kiss thing is annoying that's being typed WAY too much today and I read it on like other out of context yt comments lately such a dumb thing to say and many 'red pill" channels have talked about this for years now so all your points are just dumb. & if this reaches the masses but those previous videos didn't then that just tells me people care about girl's opinions more than mens 99 out of 100 times & wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

@@XZ-III okay?

@@XZ-III sucks to suck buddy

@@XZ-III you need sleep or something

@XZ III Bro shut up. Nobody listens to red pill because they come at shit with a misogynistic take and nobody wants to suffer through that garbage.

Security was something else I was thinking. Women wouldn't feel safe going to a stranger's house while a man might feel more in control of that situation.

@@brothlcreeprs Also a factor indeed

Exactly lol even if those women wanted to have sex with those men right then and there, they'd be risking humiliation, called a wh*re, tainted reputation, etc. at best (wont even talk about the worst case scenario), Whereas males would be celebrated for their "achievement"... Social norms be damned, we'd have a better chance of evolving from our shallow monkey brains if only we would stop and THINK dammit. It's not just about biology and "HuMaN NaTuRE". Not anymore.

@@brothlcreeprs I don’t even understand why any men in that video said yes. Obviously if she was 100% serious I would most likely be down but that’s not even a thing that happens in this universe so I would be so skeptical I wouldn’t take it seriously. I guess men really are naive lol

@@arunkeshavadas7171 as a gen z i usually hear words like thot, hoe, etc. rather than whore. whore feels a little antiquated.

Definitely!

I lowkey felt like the guys wanted to be nice to the short guy whereas the girls wanted to be nice to the “overweight” girl.

@@dathunderman4 idk lmao the short guy was pretty sharp

Because your own gender's opinion doesn't really matter

@@MadsterV It matters when it comes to dating though

@@cx5442 only if you want to date your own gender

I totally agree. I'm in very good health, but I'm less attractive than a woman with worse health but a beautiful face and figure I don't see a connection

iq has been correlated with birth order (later being better) on basis of women's hips getting wider post giving birth allowing for larger children - I don't see why this would not apply to women with wider hips initially. There is also going to be lower chance of death during childbirth (from a subconscious perspective based on childbirth historically). Breast size can be correlated with milk production which again can be correlated with lower infant mortality and higher infant growth rates (somewhat historical). Nice looking hair can be correlated with health directly, in terms of protein production, access to protein (historically in short supply) and nutrient levels. Fat depositions (ass) can be correlated with ability to continue to term/breastfeed in adverse conditions, eg a famine or food shortage (historically). BMI can be correlated with increased health directly and in most cases self control. Fashion/Style and general hygiene can be correlated with ability to recognise social norms/trends and self implement them. A lot of these are antiquated but as they are subconscious they still survive. If predispositions like this exist, it is because they are evolutionarily advantageous or were at one time - tbh its pretty egotistical to think you know better than trait preferences developed through evolution over millions of years (that they are/were baseless).

​@@m00nalieni find bs when people talk about healthy when in reality they talk about "looking healthy" and it's just bs, cause everything comes to looks anyways.

Heh weaklings

As many say "return to monke".

@@MrPenetroso yeeeeeaaaahhhh where my bananas

@@MrPenetroso R Uuu. C R

Is it really that weird to instinctively desire the best odds of ensuring your own and your children's survival? I'd say the real weird thing is what's happening lately with fostering societal norms that worsen individual and community odds.

I mean you look the part

See I can relate to this, am I attracted to you or do I want to be you, it's mainly this way with celebs

@@yungmentalproblems What’s even better is that I went so far I ain’t even a cishet anymore. 👉😎👉

Probably have better luck finding a partner in an asylum if that's the case. Maybe give Batman a call, see if the Joker, Harlequin or whoever floats your boat is locked up to follow your "villain arc" or whatever lunacy fairy tale you have in mind Ms. Evil Mastermind.

@@vizzo1138 Good suggestion! Humor is on point. 👌

Same with women. People are different and have different preferences. Some people just don't seem to want to accept that.

Yeah all 3 seem great in every movie I’ve seen. Be real nice to have merged into one super ideal lol. Jessica Rabbits physical appeal and Irresistible attraction, with the respect trust stability and genuine love for and of the kind/motherly/home figure, with the fun, exciting and unpredictable woman pixie personality that “helps you grow as a person/find yourself/etc”. The pixie one almost could be just a good friend “trope” if you take away the sexual appeal and sex, but those play a part in this “ideal”

@@youngknowledgeseeker I'm trying to imagine how this mess of traits would actually work and my first thought was essentially "she's possessed/she has multiple personalities." But to be fair, who a person is and how they act can vary wildly depending on what's happening around them. We've got the "customer service face," and then there's the classic of "don't talk to your boss how you talk to your friends."

Suggesting that the "ideal" woman or even the "ideal" man are not a universal thing, but instead each person has their own vision

@@dearrationals yeah it's preference I have shown alot of different photos of dudes to girls at my school some find them attractive some don't

Agreed but I would never believe a woman if she said that to me in public without even knowing her.

@@nathancasey7712 yeah I'm not that attractive, that shits gotta be a prank

@@leonardo9259 Dude even being attractive that’s not a thing that happens in this universe lol. Just makes no sense

How do you know men don’t fear women In the same way we fear them when you’ve never had a single experience in life being a man ?

@@electricfishfan7159 chill

i've seen a lot of ppl (who are now v dedicated to their wives) cheat. i think it stems not necessarily from a lack of love, but from a general discontent with their lives. i think it's not necessarily unfair for ppl to feel jealous. after all, there's nothing you can do to prevent your partner from cheating, and even if they do, it's not really their Fault per se. they often don't even realize when they're emotionally cheating, and will grow incredibly upset with you if you point it out to them. and yet, after you break up, they'll end up marrying the person they "were not emotionally cheating on you with" when you spend less time with your depressed, emotional, postpartum wife to commiserate with an understanding female colleague, who's to say you're more than just friends? who's to say the wife's not just being overly possessive and jealous?

It depends. You maybe need to if your friends are trying to get with you still romantically even though your in a relationship. Its far more common then you realize.

​@@cabbage-soupstudies show that women are more likely to cheat in the relationship where they're dissatisfied while men would cheat regardless of their satisfaction simply if the opportunity presents itself, for "variety". Men moment.

​@cabbage-soup this is exactly what a cheater would say.

People change over time, the person you married isn't always the person you are now married too. Your feelings may have been genuine then, but not anymore. This is why it is important in relationships to take active steps to grow together.

@@arunkeshavadas7171 genetics over behaviour, remember "Justice for Cameron" and how women were defending him. also there were literally women wanting to marry Richard Ramirez despite knowing to want horrendous crimes he had done.

@@arunkeshavadas7171 actually when we talked about morality in this topic it doesn't exist it all it is "°amoral" since we have no fault or choice for liking who we like

@Natalie I think everyone here is realizing that men and women aren’t that different and both do the same/similar terrible shit (or good shit)

@@arunkeshavadas7171 That’s not “male” bullies, that’s all bullies, female too. And the relation of causality is reversed to how you seem to be implying. Boys/girls are more likely to become bullies because they have access to a lot of sexual partners, it’s not that they have more sexual partners because they are bullies. You’re really trying to blame male bullying on women too now? Wow, no accountability for men lol.

@@arunkeshavadas7171 Gtfo with that incel bs

I realize that being gay may bring other issues depending on where you live and what your family is like. I don't want to make light of it because it's still a struggle for many people. But I would really love to be able to bypass males altogether. I'm attracted to them but I really do not want to be.

@@Maialeen I understand the feeling, in a sense. My comment was, obviously, in jest - woman can just be… my fellow women can be frustrating and confusing and intimidating. I love them, but man being attracted to girls can be frustrating.

@@Jane_8319 Obviously, because you're dealing with humans, not robots. Everything can be frustrating. But men too often bring with them misogynistic violence and the attitude that you are there to serve them. Not to mention if not outwardly violent, subconsciously too many of them just think they're better than us because it's a real message that they've completely absorbed. It's really undesirable having to be in relationships with this generation bringing with them old misogyny with the added "benefit" of being raised on violent porn.

@@Maialeen ah shit, I didn’t even put together that’s what you were referencing - I honestly thought you were just lamenting the silly nonsense in courtship. That is incredibly frustrating and degrading, I am terribly sorry, M.B. I know it’s of little comfort but there are non-misogynistic men out there, but of course, depending on where you are it might not be so easy to find them. It sounds like you’ve had some awful experiences with men in the past, and im terribly sorry. I hope your future is much brighter.

@@Maialeen Don't you see the hypocrisy in your comment? By assuming men are misogynistic to the point you don't want them to exist is deeply troubling. Men, like anyone are humans. There's bad just like there are bad women.

On top of that as with most things in life, when the game is finally figured out, the rules change

@@MeBerserk yes exactly

Men sexualise women look at female sports videos absolutely disgusting

But the main reason is women don't have too and most don't like to deal with the feeling of rejection

I would have thought it were the opposite, the stigma that the man must make the first move is dying more and more every day. Online dating has let both men and women realise how much power women have over their choice of partner

As a guy i like to add some guys stopped approaching girls because they are afraid of potential false r*pe , harrassment accusations because it's almost impossible to clean your image after that, and there is little to no consequence for the false accusers. I included this segment because it's important to understand both sides rather than thinking one side is evil and the other is innocent little angels. I hope we have a mutual understanding of both situations because I don't disagree with you.

Women didn't approach men to begin with, stop the bullshit 😂

@@mtithewoodentank4817 They do if u look like Henry Cavill =]] But as an average man obviously they couldn't care less about you and don't even look in your direction.

Same

yes but money leh

But it won't. Sex sells and people will cope and lie to be able to sell it. Like, aren't all OnlyFans porn actors always preaching some bullshit about "female empowerment" and "sexual liberation"? Why do they feel the need to cope with that by doing porn in the first place? Yeah... It's not healthy in many aspects.

Most of the women aren't even real lol. Facetune has destroyed real beauty. Everything's all about angles and AI photoshop

@@engineerepixlele2845 lmao youre acting like you have to travel far far away to see a "real woman" put down your phone and go outside

it's when I read comments like this that I feel like an outsider. Most of my Tiktok is made of fantasy make-up, alternative fashion, witchy stuff, and aesthetic videos.

Nailed it. These “influencers” are all looks, instead of actual talent that makes the world a better place.

@@treeapocalypse8421 FR there are women on tiktoks, that look the exact same way irl..

I mean, at least you got the choice to act however you want and no one would look at you any different

@@XZ-III Honestly it took me a long time to accept myself, even now still kinda sacred to be fully myself at times; it's a process. I noticed people tend to have a "reaction" based on how I identify. When I was acting out the ideal masculine (via society standards), I was lonely, depressed, only until I truly embraced my feelings, did I notice a positive change in how people interacted with me... Thats why I identify as non-binary now, bc I no longer focus on male or female aspects, it's just genuineness/vibes that's truly attractive, regardless of gender or sex. It's tough tho, societal standards really messed everyone up. Most of my depression and anxiety was due to my focusing on being the "ideal male" instead of being just me....life is counterintuitive

@@yoXneo so true!! ive definitely gone through the same thought process and have a much better time just being myself. glad you were able to unlearn some of those obligations and feel more comfortable in your own identity!

@@softestsoap Hey! Thank you so much, it’s nice to know others have had gone thru something similar. I’m glad you were able to unlearn certain biases and feel free to own who you truly are too!

Guys who embrace their feminine side are always attractive!!

mm-hm

Everything in human society is a combination of nature and nurture.

Also from personal experience, I have done a lot of self-introspection and studied others around me, all aspects of male and female attraction is solely social. To me, excusing everything as biological doesn't fix anything, and it keeps a lot of social problems intact. Yes, it's innately biological to want to be sexually active, but, that cannot be defined by one thing or another. The only thing that's innately biological is interesting sexual intercourse, and that's it. How you're attracted or what you're attracted to whether on a physical or spiritual level, is completely independent person by person, or how society affects them and their opinion. Although, I have to say though, and this is something very very important we need to keep in mind as a society, since so many young people these days are so confused about their sexualities, we need to make a starker line between the differences. What I mean by this is, I know I have some point was confused whether I was perhaps even bisexual or even a lesbian, but eventually I realized that, biologically speaking, heterosexual intercourse is largely focused on the woman. That being said, it is completely healthy and normal from a heterosexual standpoint for a heterosexual man and a heterosexual woman to be equally sexually aroused and or affected by seeing a sexualized woman. On the other hand, it is somewhat unnatural to be equally aroused by some random dude who happens to be sexualized, especially when it comes to muscles and such. Not to say that a heterosexual woman cannot be sexually aroused by a man, it just needs to be specifically her man and in a bedroom circumstance. A woman definitely can be sexually aroused visually speaking by a man, but it's purely contextual and relationship-based. For example I would be very much attracted to my man in that context, but I would not be randomly sexually aroused by some random dude who decided to take his shirt off in the street. In fact, I find that an extremely annoying situation, like bro, I don't want to see your man boobs LOL I don't like being stared at by bare nipples But anyways, society teaches us that heterosexual sex is purely male oriented, when it's actually pretty equal without social standards, but in a way kind of prioritizes women. In fact, and a lot of ancient religions, women are considered prioritized when it comes to sex. In fact, in the old testament, also known as the torah, it is mentioned that, a particular woman, named tamar, married three brothers each separately, and one of them died as a punishment by God because he refused to have sexual relations with her give love to his wife in that manner. So, that being said, if there has been ancient writings that speak of prioritizing female sexual pleasure, and also the fact that millions of women get sexually aroused by seeing another woman and trying to avert their gaze out of respect of that other woman, and also despite this sexual arousal that she might feel towards another woman, she would never ever ever actually want to be sexually active with another woman, just get sexual arousal from it. This proves this point, the fact that both heterosexual men and women are equally sexually aroused by seeing another woman, it does not render her bisexual. This is an important distinction we need to make, and I remember actually talking to a teenage girl about this, and for reference, I myself am in my late teens, so it wasn't anything strange or anything, I just happened to be later in adolescence then most of my peers, but anyways, I remember her talking to me about how she feels sexual arousal when she sees an alluring woman, but yet she doesn't actually have interest in having any sexual relations with a woman ever. She said that she was afraid of being lgbt, meaning that it didn't really fit with your personal identity, but she was afraid to be put into that box and it just didn't feel like it was authentic to her, but yet she didn't know what to do with this sense of sexual arousal towards the same gender. I assured her, as someone who has experienced the same thing, that it's perfectly normal for a heterosexual female, and it has nothing to do with lesbianism or bisexuality. On the other hand, if there was genuine interest in wanting to actually have sexual relations with a woman and not just so happens to be aroused by the appearance of another woman being naked, then that would be completely different and she would have to accept the fact that she was lgbt. This is why we need to make this dark differentiation, because so many kids end up feeling forced into a label that isn't them, because of these standards we have made that sex surounds a man, and so therefore believes that, if a woman doesn't automatically feel that same sexual arousal that a man might feel towards a woman, then therefore she must be gay on some level.

@@otakumangastudios3617 How interesting. I haven't seen someone put this into words quite beyond "all women are bisexual" which just never quite rung true with me or what I observed from other women. My personal take has always been most every time you see a female's body is in a purely sexual context. Meanwhile, male's bodies are more often presented in a neutral or comedic context, something not to take seriously. Or as something to admire when optimum physique is in question. So, I blamed my near automatic arousal to seeing a woman's body only on I've been conditioned to see it as inherently sexual. Not saying "tv turned me gay" as the joke goes, but would you consider that technically true given this context? (I am heterosexual, I never was sexually attracted to a woman before. But only just recently I realized I've never been sexually attracted to a man either, for I'm actually asexual... Problems in my relationship of 8 years make more sense now, but this is kinda besides the point of the original topic.)

Several other studies look at promiscuity and factors of attraction across the animal kingdom, and it’s always the same. The sex that dedicates the highest biological investment in reproduction is almost always less promiscuous. There are several examples where males actually take on the less promiscuous, highly selective role because of their high reproductive investment. Socialization does play a role in humans, but the behavior is definitely innate (I have a PhD in biology and evolution)

@@jesssterling5915 I' m certain that 99.99% of sexual preferences are locked down since birth. Though, attractibility on other hand, seem more fluid somehow. Some transverstites are higly attractable to heterosexuals, until they revealed their biological sex, then repulsion started.