Measuring Prospective Fault Current (PFC) at the Origin of a Single Phase Supply (Live Test)

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GSH Electrical

GSH Electrical

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Student training aid for the live test measuring prospective fault current PFC using a MFT Megger tester. Includes a full demonstration of how to measure PFC current. This test is shown being done under controlled condition in a college workshop. I measure both prospective short circuit current PSCC and prospective earth fault current PEFC and record the highest of the 2 readings.
= πŸ• Time Stamps - Cut to the action πŸ•• ==
00:00 - How to carryout a PFC test
02:21 - Isolating the consumer unit
03:37 - Testing between line and neutral of the incoming supply PSCC
04:27 - Testing between line and the earth bar of the incoming supply PEFC
05:35 - Testing between line on top of my circuit breaker MCB and neutral
06:01 - Testing between line on top of my circuit breaker MCB and earth bar
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@clivemunns4931
@clivemunns4931 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Great vids, they do just what it says on the tin. Very helpful, thanks guys.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. Much appreciated GSH Electrical
@deanpaterson301
@deanpaterson301 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
All your videos have been instrumental in getting me through my 2365 level 3 - i've no doubt they will be of great value for my 2391-52 next week, thank you Gaz, your time and effort in making these videos is very much appreciated !!!
@johanburger6109
@johanburger6109 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Great video. Love the attention giving on when to select the 2 hi, 2lo, 3lo setting on the device. Probably the best video I have seen for this so far.
@garethgordon9141
@garethgordon9141 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Comprehensive and clear, thanks for your effort
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Thanks πŸ‘
@LindaTheLearner
@LindaTheLearner 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Ta Gaz ... for making it all so clear πŸ‘πŸ™
@avfczoff
@avfczoff Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Excellent video again Gary πŸ‘πŸ»
@johnnevin5706
@johnnevin5706 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Excellent demo right on the money
@jimim8514
@jimim8514 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Great video, really appreciated for my studying, thank you
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. So glad I could help. Keep working hard Gaz πŸ‘
@vernonjones3613
@vernonjones3613 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Very instructive and well presented good job
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
+Vernon Jones Thanks
@mohamedbaghdadi778
@mohamedbaghdadi778 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
The nice thing you said in the end of this video. I hope this video some help to be honest it was hugely helpful not some help .thank you so much you are the best teacher I see him ever.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Massive thanks for the kind words it’s very much appreciated. πŸ‘ I hope this message has been some help πŸ˜ƒ
@sunnyhossain3194
@sunnyhossain3194 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Awesome Gary
@Rk-w03
@Rk-w03 3 місяці Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Gaz doing these videos through out the night by pendant light!Dedication!
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 місяці Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
It’s very much appreciated πŸ‘πŸ»
@georgedumitrescu9473
@georgedumitrescu9473 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Spot on and well explained as always. Good work Gary. Going to do my 2391-52 from tomorrow. Wish me luck. I am sure I will remember your videos. Thank you.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
All the best 🦾
@georgedumitrescu9473
@georgedumitrescu9473 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
I passed the exam. Thank you for your video tutorials.
@craigspacie7048
@craigspacie7048 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Enjoy your videos mate good teacherπŸ‘
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
+Craig Spacie Once again thanks for the kind words GSH Electrical
@sparktouch-
@sparktouch- 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
great explaination and very easily understood....!!! Much Appreciate...!!!!
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Thanks πŸ‘πŸ»
@Ahmed198831
@Ahmed198831 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Always clear explanation thanks
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Thanks for the support and positive feedback πŸ‘πŸ»
@chrissmith7259
@chrissmith7259 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Gary again great video and 'HBSH'.
@gregmartin352
@gregmartin352 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Great clear and concise videos. With your PFC test on CU main switch at considerably less than the 33Ka of the incomer, under what conditions would you expect there to be any real chance of PFC across breakers to be greater than there 6Ka max? Thanks
@jamesclark925
@jamesclark925 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Great video its nice to see someone explain the reason for the test and not just the method.
@shuaibsaleem569
@shuaibsaleem569 Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Should've listened more in physics
@Smelch
@Smelch Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Whats that meant to mean?
@kobeyossef352
@kobeyossef352 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Good job
@martyclarke969
@martyclarke969 Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Looking nice n relaxed as usual Gary
@peanutpotion
@peanutpotion 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi, thanks for the video I’ve got my AM2 soon and it’s going to be 3P+N main switch. Carrying out this test I would crocodile clip onto the earth bar One probe in neutral One probe testing between L1,L2,L3 taking the highest reading and X by 2. Is this correct? Also what setting would it be on as on a single phase board you switch between the 2?
@brahimabdelsadek5815
@brahimabdelsadek5815 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
thanx teacher.big respect
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Thanks for the positive comment it’s much appreciated. Gaz πŸ‘
@johnnevin5706
@johnnevin5706 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Excellent
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
ThanksπŸ‘
@andybrown9178
@andybrown9178 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Great videos πŸ‘
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Thanks πŸ‘
@peanutpotion
@peanutpotion 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
I thought Ze and pfc was done at the supply side of the breaker
@seandempsey9396
@seandempsey9396 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi Gary can you please tell me how this is done using the kewtech kt62 multifunction tester or the ROBIN kts 1620 MFT as the instruction book says nothing about the two lead high loop test, on the control dial there are two settings, loop 20 ohms 200 ohms and 2000 ohms, psc 200A 2000A and 20ka also how to do Ze Another great video thank you
@barrysharp3559
@barrysharp3559 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Gary, could you tell me why on. TNS system sometimes the Pefc and the Pscc readings are different when both the eart and neutral are essentially the same conductor and both test carried out with bonding in place so same parallel paths etc? Thanks.
@17italyman
@17italyman 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
for the am2s would i need to test PSCC for each breaker or just from the main switch ?
@dwmexe9474
@dwmexe9474 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Thank you so much
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
No problem πŸ‘
@braisov
@braisov 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. Congratulations for the videos. Please, if you are so kind, two questions: What is the reason for the difference between the measured PFCs of the two switches, being in the same point of the installation? In the case of Line-PE [424-312A] and in the case of Line-Neutral [311-332A]. Would the measures be different with all the charges connected? Thanks
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. Normal practice is to measure PFC (PSCC and PEFC) only once. If the reading was less that the PFC of the smallest rating device in this case the circuit breakers 6KA then your sorted. I did it twice as a demonstration as this links to my class lessons on PFC. You have to do both PSCC and PEFC as PEFC picks up the parallel earth paths offered by extraneous conductive part (metal water pipe, metal gas pipe, metal frame of the building etc.) thanks for commenting and watching GSH Electrical
@braisov
@braisov 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Thanks
@CommonInvesting
@CommonInvesting 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
brilliant videos as always, my tutor is talking about the 3 lead method being the one we should use when testing, is this correct? and what is it
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
πŸ‘πŸ»
@gazdkw82
@gazdkw82 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Is it a requirement of initial verification to test on the load side of the breaker? I thought Ipf was only on the supply side of the main incoming?
@mattsturgess1545
@mattsturgess1545 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
I don't think its a requirement, but if you want to do it for peace of mind then by all means do it.
@callumsimpson7483
@callumsimpson7483 Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
It’s only to test the main fuse if you test on the supply side. If you test on the load side you’ll be testing the mcb/rcbo fault current is under 6ka.
@user-vs5fi2vy3h
@user-vs5fi2vy3h 5 місяців Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi In psc test why do you put red wire on neutral main isolated why mix the wire. And earth wire which is acting as neutral Went on line. Main idolater Thank you
@JoyyyG
@JoyyyG 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
@6:03 you tested line and neutral on a high reading then switched to low reading when testing live and earth, because there's a rccb in the circuit but @6:03 isn't the rccb in the circuit aswel? Can you explain why High reading when live and neutral then low reading for live and earth please thank you
@RageQuitter1
@RageQuitter1 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
RCDs detect an unbalanced current between the L and N conductors on the outgoing side of the breaker. If the impedance test is done across the L and N terminals there is no imbalance, they are sharing the same amount of current during the test and will not trip. When doing the test between L and E, the RCD detects that the L terminal has current flowing during the test but the N terminal doesn’t, this imbalance will cause it to trip if done on the Hi setting.
@greywolf271
@greywolf271 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Can someone advise me about how the instrument gets the current at time 4:33 please ? Are some assumptions made in the calculations ? How can the source impedence be calculated without removing the mains supply voltage ? I read elsewhere that in some instances a standard impedence value is used for the suppliers network and thus the max current is calculated. Is this true ?
@jamblob3208
@jamblob3208 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
I believe that as the circuit is energised it is a marginal resistance measurement. Thus actual voltage = IΓ—R or current = VΓ·R
@billyellis1368
@billyellis1368 Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
You left the main switch inside the consumer unit on, is this compulsory when doing the first test
@Sergey3023
@Sergey3023 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Very knowledgeable video, and without any water.. How would you calculate pfc ?Is it I=Uo/Zs ?
@darrenhawkins4504
@darrenhawkins4504 Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Voltage divided by ze
@milesmitchell2025
@milesmitchell2025 Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
On main breaker are u testing the incoming our outgoing supply?
@Davhamish720
@Davhamish720 Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Could you please explain to me why when we do a zs on a circuit on an mcb we get different readings when doing a 2 high and 2 low test? I don't understand why the readings are so different. And surely if you are getting a high test result on the 2 low setting you can put it on 2 high setting and get a much lower reading. If you have any info on the megger high/low settings it would be much appreciated πŸ‘
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Earth Fault Loop Impedance Test - 3 Lead Low or 2 Lead High - Test Explained ukposts.info/have/v-deo/h5GIg3mFhIectH0.html
@kamuts7
@kamuts7 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi Gary, how is it gonna clear any faults or short circuits if the current is way below the 6KA or 33KA? I know these are breaking capacity, hence it gives safety to the installation or equipments but how is it gonna rectify the faults? thanks
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. The numbers stated are the maximum break capacity so can clear (handle) faults up to 6KA etc. Thanks for your comment Gaz πŸ‘
@markdove5906
@markdove5906 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
The terminology is confusing it won't clear faults. (They'll be rectified physically) It has to be able to withstand them at maximum so by doing pssc and pfc we know the maximum then we simply look at the Icn of the fuse and we know it can close a circuit if a fault occurs. If for example he found 11ka pfc and only 6ka Icn if a fault occurs they may not isolate the supply.
@kamuts7
@kamuts7 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Mark Dove its starting to make sense please can you add more to that?
@Jakee3_
@Jakee3_ Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
How come some people use 3 Lead test for this? Does it make a difference? E.G probs on L,N&E doing the PFC test
@154electrician
@154electrician 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
What code would you put on an eicr if you had a pfc of 8.4ka and the mcbs in the consumer unit where rated at 6ka ?
@valyardelean
@valyardelean 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
C1
@valyardelean
@valyardelean 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
In case of a fault it's going to be a fire..
@LSF315
@LSF315 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi Gary, am struggling to understand this. Your main incoming fuse is rated at 100 amps but you’re mentioning KA. The same with the breaker, this is a 6 amp breaker but you’re now saying it’s 6KA? Can you explain further, please?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. The breaking capacity is the amount of current under fault conditions the over current protective device (fuse) can handle... so commonly a 6 amp MCB can withstand fault currents up to 6000 amps (6KA). At this value and below the device can break the circuit.... over this value it can say cause a massive arc that leads to a fire or melt across the device and then not disconnect the circuit... all the best and thanks for commenting Gaz
@jamesgledhill9667
@jamesgledhill9667 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
So 6 amp is just for the overload protection? The KA rating is for the short circuit protection?
@Ethan-hb7wl
@Ethan-hb7wl Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
In the am2 do you need to do every circuit breakers or just the one
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
LIVE Testing on a 3 Phase Dis-Board - External Earth Fault Loop Impedance Ze, PEFC, PSCC AM2 & AM2S ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gZWIo4KMgIGmq6s.html
@benellis4681
@benellis4681 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
I carry out this test with a similar tester . But I never changed the leads over( l-n& l-pe)would this have any effect on the test results ? Also , should the fault current reading between the tails be greater than the rating (eg 100amp)
@benellis4681
@benellis4681 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Also haha ,,,,. Am I correct in saying that the fault conditions are what could occur between the fault happening and the main fuse blowing ? Thanks.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. No worries on the test leads. The fault current (PFC) at the tails can be up to 30kA the PFC rating of the 100amp cutout fuse is either on it or look in BS7671. It’s the fault current it can clear not the load current which as a rule of thumb is 1.5 Times it’s rated value so 100 amp fuse could carry up to 150 amps for a short period of time. Hope this helps GSH Electrical
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Yes
@benellis4681
@benellis4681 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
GSH Electrical it’s one thing doing the simple test but another understanding it fully . Thanks
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Yes. I hope my videos help in some small way. Thanks Gaz
@andrewhamilton2655
@andrewhamilton2655 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Is the measurement of each individual circuit PSC recorded on the test sheet or is it the PSC on the side of the breaker? i.e. 6KA
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. The kA rating is either on the side or front of circuit breakers. The measurement is only done once above a (any) breaker as shown in the video as this will be the same reading (PFC) for all of them. Hope this help and all the best GSH Electrical
@andrewhamilton2655
@andrewhamilton2655 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Sorry, what I meant was that in the box on the test sheet asking for the value of KA, do we wright in the value written on the side of the breaker, or the value we have measured? Cheers Andy
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. Yes the value on the device thanks Gaz
@kamuts7
@kamuts7 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
So how much current to flow for the RCD to trip? More than 6k amp?
@Masteranddisaster13
@Masteranddisaster13 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
brad Rhed 30mA
@Rossisearle
@Rossisearle Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hello Gary at 1:42 where would i find this table? WR or Onsite?
@Jo3yW
@Jo3yW Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
GN3 Table 2.16 p91
@falconryforever
@falconryforever 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Just to clarify, we dont measure the fault current, we measure resistance and the tester auto calculates it and shows it as result. You dont send 4-5-600A trough your tester.
@greywolf271
@greywolf271 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
The test leads would fry first
@iraqviva7670
@iraqviva7670 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
im using fluke 1652B will i select Zi loop Hi current or Zi loop no trip thanks
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
High current
@iraqviva7670
@iraqviva7670 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
@@GSHElectrical wow man supper respond thank a lot. you guys are stars
@antonwillis896
@antonwillis896 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi, just a quick one I’m slightly confused with this test and I’ve my am2 on Monday. What’s confusing me is I’ve seen/heard that you have to times your highest result by x2 and that’s your ipf your record down
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Testing for External Earth Fault Loop Impedance (Ze) When You Have a Main Earthing Terminal (MET) ukposts.info/have/v-deo/pqpkp5mKip1ku4k.html
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Live Testing AM2 & AM2S - External Earth Fault Loop Impedance Ze, PEFC, PSCC on a 3 Phase Dis-Board ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gZWIo4KMgIGmq6s.html
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hope these help πŸ‘πŸ»
@markgilder7757
@markgilder7757 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Reg 542-04-02 "The means os earthing must be disconnected from the installation earthed equipotential bonding for the duration of the test to remove parallel paths. This is to prove that the installation has a main earth. IET. Guidance note 3
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. Correct and I disconnect from the MET the protective bonding conductor disconnecting it from the main earthing conductor in this video. Thanks for watching GSH Electrical
@skamuk1
@skamuk1 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
For Ze testing only, you need to reinstate all bonding connections before carrying out PFC testing.
@peanutpotion
@peanutpotion 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
You only disconnect the main earthing conductor for Ze test, you need to reconnect the main earth for PFC
@jamblob3208
@jamblob3208 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
@@skamuk1 would that be not for the other tests mentioned, not the max PFC demonstrated here? I didn't see mention of the installation earthing being disconnected but he says in this reply that he did that though which is confusing me as it doesn't look disconnected.
@zedzed1046
@zedzed1046 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
On the loop switch there is a LL, what would that be used for.
@Jo3yW
@Jo3yW Π Ρ–ΠΊ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Testing between phases.
@ashhowey5249
@ashhowey5249 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
That bending radius on the main swa... πŸ˜‰
@michaelboyes4948
@michaelboyes4948 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Looks like copex not swa
@ashhowey5249
@ashhowey5249 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
@@michaelboyes4948 Oh yeah, good point ha ha ha.
@zamanraja9531
@zamanraja9531 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Can anyone explain In a nutshell please what the connection is between Zs, PFC, PEFC & PSCC
@tomaustin8943
@tomaustin8943 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Ohm's law
@zamanraja9531
@zamanraja9531 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
@@tomaustin8943 no as in like in terms of measurement and which ones u need to record on the EICR
@tomaustin8943
@tomaustin8943 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
@@zamanraja9531 so prospective fault current (ipf) is the highest of PEFC and PSCC. This is recorded in the nature of supply parameters. Zs ie (R1+R2) + Ze is recorded on the schedule of test results.
@zamanraja9531
@zamanraja9531 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
@@tomaustin8943 omdss u made it so simple thank you so much !!!
@tomaustin8943
@tomaustin8943 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
@@zamanraja9531 no bother ;)
@ningis21
@ningis21 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi...wWhat do you have to say regarding these two comments I read on another channel...where the tester / instructor stated the fault currents wer 370 and 350 A for PFC PSCC 1. The breaking capacity of the main fuse will need to be lower than the PFC The second commentor agreed..... 2.Exactly! How is it that having CBs of 6,000 A breaking capacity will protect a circuit with both earth fault and short circuit PSFC and PSCC of 370 A and 350A, respectively?! The whole purpose of a protective devise is to trip before a circuit or any relevant point of the electrical installation reaches its maxumum PSCC or PFC!!! If that installation has in place those protective devises then surely the PFC and the PSCC are higher than 6,000 A. I seriously suggest this video should be withdrawn. It represents a hazard in itself! It will certainly confuse the inexperienced student. Your comment would be appreciated... I think the commentors have mis-understood which part of BS7671 we are compairing...and this may need explaining...by someone somewhere. .
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. Thanks for the detailed message. The information you have provided me is worrying but I haven’t seen the video yet. I am not sure how you can go about having a UKposts video removed it maybe worth highlighting these points to the channel that produced the video. Many thanks for your time GSH Electrical
@ningis21
@ningis21 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
The video seems fine as he did the same as yourself tested the board to ensure the fuses/circuit breakers were able to withstand the potential fault currents. It was the commentators who had it wrong....but they did raise an interesting point...in that you would expect the fuse or circuit breaker to trip with the lowest fault current...in order to save the installation.....seems odd to have a large fault current circulating and the prospective faults becomming actual faults and no breaker has tripped....was their slant on things, confusing the actual tripping current eg, 30mA or 150mA, of the device with it's actual handling capacity.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 6 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. Thanks for coming back it’s lovely to see your taking things so seriously. Keep watching and asking your questions GSH Electrical
@highhurstfarmandholidaycot526
@highhurstfarmandholidaycot526 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi Gary Can I ask a question. Why have not locked off the main switch before taking the cover off and why do you need to do PFC test for each circuit rather than just at the input to the main switch. GN3 and both Napit/niece guides always show locked off powered down CUs whilst doing this test. If I had done this during assessment I would have been failed.
@MB-iw6gu
@MB-iw6gu 4 місяці Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
You will never get an answer from him because in this industry no one knows what to do . I had once two different assessment within couple of months and both assessors were saying something else.
@tspirit99
@tspirit99 5 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΡ–Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Mate i love your videos but why are your arms sticking out? you been making those gains at the gym? :D
@geraldelwood9660
@geraldelwood9660 2 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Why would you get a significantly higher Pfc L to PE vs L to N. Since you are testing a TNCS supply you would expect the same result since parallel paths are open to both tests through the MET. Or a slightly higher for Pfc might be expected for L to N, since the L tail is 25mm as opposed to 16mm earth tail. Also why test Pfc at top of breaker, as it cannot be higher than Pfc at main switch. This just encourages learners to follow a list of instructions with no awareness of what they are physically testing nor the meaning of what the results actually tell them.
@faithful5475
@faithful5475 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
At 4.48 that was dangerous, you almost touch the live main incoming, main cut off switch is also on Becareful, love your videos keep it up
@randomteddy9938
@randomteddy9938 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
who wired that DB dear god
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Learners have the conductors in and out of this board every day... I didn’t have time at 7am when shooting the video to sort them out. All the best Gaz
@jameshansing5396
@jameshansing5396 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Surely it's a bit dodgy having a Trade Skills for U advent just before a video by GSH Electrical???????
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
James Hansing that’s a youtube thing not a GSH thing
@jameshansing5396
@jameshansing5396 3 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
@@GSHElectrical Sorry yes, I didn't think it was you guys and I suppose UKposts possibly can't tell certain advertisers they CAN'T have certain spots but it just seemed a little like letting a rival try to cash in on your hard work and success. Just seemed a bit of a "dick move" by UKposts and indeed TS4U....
@lesharapi9617
@lesharapi9617 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hard to understand
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
Hi. Sorry. Gaz
@leebrown3895
@leebrown3895 4 Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ
It would have been much better if you shown where on the sheets you put the results.
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