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Just when I thought my admiration for this man could not be any greater, I go and learn he's given back his OBE. ❤

Michael Sheen puts his whole heart into everything he does. It’s always a pleasure to listen to him and he’s so well spoken too. He is a joy to watch. ❤

The whole part of the language towards an independent Wales being reminiscent of an abusive/controlling relationship is something I have personally experienced quite a lot living in England. The language is always like "Wales couldn't survive" or "It's struggling now, imagine if it didn't have England's help?" My response to these nowadays is "and who made it that way? Where did our coal go? Where did our steel go? Who priced us out of our local communities? Why is it if I live in North Wales, I cannot get a train to my own country's capital city without first going through England?"

Michael Sheen is the rare successful Actor who matches his words with ACTION.

Sheen is the leader Wales' needs. A great guy.

Delighted to see a Welsh guest, doubly so that it's Michael Sheen.

Michael Sheen preparing for his leading role in upcoming Karl Marx biopic

Yes Michael!! Speaking up for the Welsh and for an area of South Wales which has been severely over looked for too many years, I work in Neath and it is shocking how few services there are for the young people I work with. With the amount of water we have and the advancements we have made in many other industries we have enough steam to become independent, we are much stronger and smarter than the apparent 'United Kingdom' Love the comparison to a unhealthy relationship, so true. Cymru Am Byth!!!!

This is one of the best interviews I've seen on any media platform. Michael Sheen has been allowed to give an honest opinion of Wales and its internal and external issues. Annibyniaeth i Gymru yn bendant !

We love the very splendid Michael Sheen. Not just because he’s Welsh ( but that obviously helps!) He’s a brilliant actor, an inspirational human being and has selflessly ploughed so much back into Wales and the Welsh community. We are very proud of this son of Gwalia. He has an indomitable spirit,remaining a vocal advocate for social equity and equality.The rights of the many are lost time and time again, when pitted against the privilege bestowed on the few. Yet Michael Sheen remains an ever constant advocate for the few , for those whose voices are rarely heard. I suspect had he been born many, many years ago , he’d have been a bard or Druid (and that’s not just because of the beard and woolly hair !) He has remained true to his deeply held beliefs but has continued to learn and remain open to different perspectives.This has helped him grow in both wisdom and conviction. We look forward to watching his future creative , social and political efforts. Many congratulations to both him and his wife on the joys of parenthood. I hope he continues to raise his voice, highlight and engage in the many causes, issues and concerns that so many are struggling with today. He proves that one human being can make a real difference to our world and I hope he will inspire others to do so. Thank you Michael Sheen.

Michael is spot on about Wales. If Scotland leaves the UK then we in Wales will have to decide whether we should rethink our position too, even Mark Drakeford has admitted this.

Saw Michael Sheen at the Hay Festival in 2018(?). His speech on the NHS got a standing ovation that raised the roof, it was so loud, and went on for ages! And always been an admirer of Owen Jones. Keep on keeping on!!!!!

What a fantastic interview. Thank you. As a Proud Welsh man Michael Sheen hit the nail on the head of most of my views and feels.

How I wish many more people saw and said things so clearly. It is a pleasure to listen to bright people speaking against nonsense and putting so much passion in the importance of comunities and the support for those left behind.

Martin's metaphor of saying Wales or Scotland can not leave UK control because they could not survive on their own, being like an abusive relationship, is a very valid, insightful observation. National treasure.

He looks like he could play Karl Marx :)

It is so refreshing to see someone with such prominence to use their platform as a foundation to genuinely promote, direct and intervene in social causes, in order to highlight issues and campaign for change. So often those with the means just use their money, in a surface level effort to claim that they're an activist. Michael seems to not only really care but understand and get involved at the ground level. I look forward to seeing the successes of his work as it grows - and that beard too of course!

I absolutely adore you Michael Sheen!😻

One of the best hours I have spent in several years. Political yes, yet a mature presentation of thoughts. As a devout Nationalist who listens to thoughtful conversation, it was a truly magnificent discussion. What was missing was the snug in a bar, with a pint and a warm fire. Diolch yn fawr iawn Owen a Michael Sheen - Cymro arbennig.

Proper Welsh hero 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Da iawn Michael.If you have time listen to his lecture about Owain Glyndwr on Facebook and also in 2017 Sheen founded the End High Cost Credit Alliance working to promote more affordable ways to borrow money.[250] That same year Sheen became a Patron of Social Enterprise UK, a charity which supports social projects which benefit local, environmental and co-operative causes.

I was lucky enough to see Michael Sheen interview Bernice Sanders at the Hay literary festival..... the local boy got as much applause as the Bern did, and it was such a pleasure.

What a fantastic man Michael Sheen is.

Michael Sheen is a superb actor and a sound man. Great interview.

An absolute joy from start to finish, superb.

As a former Labour Party member...who has now joined the SNP...my road to Damascus moment very much matches Michael Sheen's. Power needs to devolve, and the reluctance of Labour to support a totally federal state with all four nations having considerable powers...like Canadian provinces, for example...will inevitably bring a break-up. Things have gone too far in Scotland, and perhaps Northern Ireland for more complicated reasons...but to keep Wales, a considerable rethink is in order from Starmer and Co. And I might add The North West and North East of England...otherwise forget the Prince of Wales title...Andy Burnham may be crowned King of The North for real!

It's so refreshing to hear intelligence and honesty expressed in these days of intellectual intelligence that is put in the service of hubristic power plays. Michael Sheen truly gives himself time (and also research) to really think before he expresses his views. As we move towards a new age in political thinking, here is an example of the value of examining the past - mistakes and all - before rushing into reactionary revolution simply because change is so clearly needed.

Very interesting points about Welsh independence. I think here in England we certainly take the other nations for granted a lot of the time. There’s all this talk about where Parliament should relocate to when the Palace of Westminster renovation can’t be delayed any further and much of the suggestions are The Midlands or the North of England. Yet why not move it to Wales or Scotland (NI not a sound option)? Help rebalance the Union through relocation of some of the apparatus of the UK state.

He truly has a brilliant mind, I could listen to him talk for hours and never get bored!

Brilliant interview. Michael Sheen is a gem.

Wow, my first Christmas jumper viewing this year! More seriously thank you for intelligent, sensitive conversation with ideas for a kinder future.

The kind of intelligent, considered and, indeed, passionate discussion that Britain so sorely needs right now.

Wales is not a principality it is and has always been a kingdom of it's own....have a look at Britain's hidden history online

All peoples should have the right to their Independence. All countries have a right to their independence. I am reminded of Michael Collins fight to free Ireland from British rule.

He’s great, and has my full support of a lot of the North of England. I am in Liverpool so have seen similar things to Wales in terms of service cuts. I love that he is using his platform for this.

"Only a small percentage is going to die" Yes THANK YOU for saying this Michael Sheen from an asthmatic & 50% lung capacity owner! Us nonhealthy people like life too!

I think I heard from the youngest Sheen around 19mins. What a clever, thoughtful, man. It’s so unusual for someone as justly famous and respected to be that engaged in his community. Why am I surprised? ... I shouldn’t be!

Great interview, Michael carrying on the great tradition of Welsh actors along with the legendary Richard Burton.

I grew up in the Welsh valleys and live in Cambridge and so exist in a perpetual state of conflict between my political allegiances and my daily experience. In this, one of the most ‘unequal’ cities in England, there are homeless people on many streets. It’s quite avoidable as the Finnish example has demonstrated. What’s chiefly needed is a visionary politician (someone a bit like Michael Sheen who’s a bit like Nye Bevan) to persuade the government to stop treating taxation as theft and raise the necessary funds. Pity Michael’s such a fabulous actor. We could otherwise start a public campaign to get him elected to government. Excellent interview.

Well done Owen. Great interview. Come back home to Wales Owen... Your heat is calling you..... Love Michael. What a hero.

He speaks truth. Wales supplies the West Midlands and Liverpool with water. Thats billions of pounds of revenue. Plus Wales is a huge electricity supplier. Wind farms everywhere where I live.

One of the best interviews I've seen lately. A likeable man of great integrity.

I’m so glad I found this. I’ve liked Michael Sheen for ages and I’d heard about his politics, but this is wonderful.

met michael a few years ago, as i am newport born and bred when he was doing a documentary on the chartist, he is such a nice guy and amazing actor also

All the hearts for Michael Sheen. Bloody amazing human.

Diolch yn fawr Michael, a Welshman politely giving up a gong from the British royal family.

40:00 minute mark gets to the OBE comments.

A wonderful human being and brilliant actor. Thankyou Michael and Owen.

The man, the myth, the legend! Love this guy. Really enjoying your long form interviews Owen.

Thanks so much for this both of you. My family history is more or less the same as yours Owen and i'm more and more drawn to a home that i never lived in i think because of these issues. I'm told i'm suffering from 'Hiraeth'?! I found this conversation really helpful in making sense of some of these feelings and putting the little knowledge i have in some historical/societal context. Big diolch to both of you.

Great conversation!

I really enjoyed this interview, MS is so astute, engaged and compassionate. Loved hearing him talk about his journey of discovery re the relationship between Wales and England. It tends to be a one way journey as so many have discovered in Scotland since 2012, especially when you see the patterns repeat - and the same questions now arising in Welsh heads. I also love the beard!

So Owen, how do we go about making Michael Sheen become Prime Minister? We all want it.

saw the title and immediately had to click on this. its so interesting to listen to others talk about their country’s and region’s politics that are so different, yet in a way similar to my own

He's a great actor and now I know he's a an even better bloke becasue he handed back his OBE!

A lovely interview! So many interesting topics covered and it’s always nice to hear from Michael - such a decent and sensible guy. Glad to hear some chat about Welsh independence. A lot of highlighting of how unhealthy the relationship is with England up here in Scotland too and I think it’s so important that these relationships move with the times.

What a great man!

That was a very interesting and thought provoking interview. I love him as an actor and love he has principles.

Yes no foreign princes for Cymru Annibyniaeth dros Gymru!

Great insights on arts and artists, story telling. 👏❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

refreshing to see a honest and sympathetic actor who genuinely cares

31:41 "foothills of an understanding" - a nice turn of phrase

Who doesn’t love Michael Sheen?

Brilliant Michael Sheen!

Owen love the new content on this channel, this has possibly been one of my favourite interviews you've done, along with Mary Lou McDonald and Piers Morgan. Fascinating conversations Owen please keep it up. Big love from Northern Ireland.

Love Michael Sheen.

Brilliant. Could listen to him for hours.

Brilliant interview. Merry Christmas Owen! ✨🍸

The point remains that the title "Prince of Wales" is a humiliation, but a small correction: it was first used by English royalty after the defeat of Llywelyn ap Gruffudd (late 13th century), so that was a bit before the defeat of Owain Glyndwr (early 15th century)

Absolutely amazing interview. Both are able to finish their thoughts without interruptions. LOVE the insights presented and as an American I find it gratifying to hear someone speak the same concerns and issues we all are going through. Interesting take on Prince of Wales position and for what its worth I completely see your point, it would right a long standing insult. My question/concern being, once a person is crowned Prince of Wales and is outside the family control, that he get an inflated ego and get power hungry and hurt Wales in the process? Again American here coming out of the (gag) Trump fiasco and seeing a maniac around every corner lol. All human egos regardless are susceptible to corruption and greed. With it being "in the family" so to speak the queen can deliver the preverbal "spanked bottom" if the prince gets a bit over reaching. IF they agreed to this, would putting restrictions/protections be another slap in the face? Also, do you feel the Monarchy is still relevant to todays England? Thank you

Da iawn Michael ! 👏👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

What a great interview!

Saw him play Ken Williams .last night ..so sad suffer . Brilliant acting by Michael .

Great interview. Thank you.

We get that too Michael, too poor, too stupid, too wee...

Thoroughly enjoyable and very insightful., especially the controlling relationship analogy re independence.

If tiny countries like Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania can be independent, so can Wales and Scotland.

Interesting interview, always nice to hear from Michael Sheen.

Hi Owen, absolutely loving the new channel. Been saying for years that the UK needs a bigger “bread tube” echo-system. With you, DDN and Novará, that finally seems to be happening to counteract our hopelessly corrupt media. Any plans to release these in a podcast format on Apple or Spotify? Would be great to listen to these when I’m on the go.

Comrade Sheen

Love being from the same country as these guys.

Michael Sheen is a thoroughly wise and decent man. And a galaxy away from Tory and, unfortunately, many Labour politicians. Much respect to him from a continental European. And congrats on the well deserved Old Beardy 'Ead :-).

Michael sheen the first welsh president, mark my words❤️

As a socialist, common sense advocate and supporter of all things to make the UK better I have just subscribed :)

Very intelligent actor. My respect for him grew a lot because of this interview/ podcast.

Love Michael Sheen, met him while I worked in Screwfix and he was sound as F££k

Great interview. Love Michael Sheen's work. Great insight on reinforced empathy within the ranks. It's how wars are won, and lost for the lack of it. We see it in the difference between America and New Zealand, to use extreme examples. They need to give medals for empathy, not wealth. Indeed, tax wealth to reinforce empathy.

Agree light is brighter due to r experiencing 2020 👏 great actor, appears a great guy, down to earth guy, makes me happy & like him more 😘

As soon as finances allow I will support yr channel Owen. Just living (surviving?) at this time on benefits. Meanwhile thank you and solidarity.

Fabulous

I saw Michael playing Hamlet at the Young Vic a few years ago with a couple of lads who'd been street homeless and then hospitalised with psychosis diagnoses. We got in for free through the theatre's community outreach scheme and it was so interesting as the play was re-imagined in a psychiatric ward, something we didn't even know when we booked. Michael was brilliant and it really had a positive impact on us.

Thought of this interview today after William got given the title of POW. What is the point of tradition with this over something to symbolise keeping people down. Definitely should have chosen a different title here. But I suppose the significance of that would lead to a wider debate. Fascinating interview 👍

Wonderful interview.

Superb interview

Deal?..Wales was conquered and Annexed..those castles weren't always tourist attractions..sheen implies Wales had a choice whether to be ruled by England or not..Wales didn't it annexed or colonised..which are the same thing

I loved his depiction of an intelligent Werewolf in Underworld.

Great interview and a great reminder to me that we really don't hear enough Welsh voices, directly from Wales. Also a reminder that the "union" has been and remains unbalanced and in many ways riddled with injustice. I'm English and I don't believe it's for any Englishman to ever tell Wales what it should do, but one thing I can do is stand in solidarity. Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.

"Local authorities had to house people" - according to one homeless guy I talk to routinely his local authority - Calderdale - didn't offer much support.

So much respect for Michael Sheen,remember some years ago hearing about his campaigns to help homeless people and people being housed in sub standard accomodation and vulnerable people being housed in hostals with predators and convicted sex offenders