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German Stoßtrupptaktik often called "Stormtrooper Tactics" were developed during the First World War. Although their influence was rather limited in the Great War, there impact on German Squad Tactics of the Second World War and modern infantry tactics was significant.
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@chartreux1532
@chartreux1532 6 років тому
German here. My great grandfather on the paternal side of my family was one of those, he was "lucky" that he got injured from a gas attack at Verdun and therefor was able to spent the rest of WWI in a Lazarett and later at home. In WWII he was teaching battlefield-related topics most of the time like at the SS-Schule in Bad Tölz and despite being and surviving Verdun and the gas attack, i still got to know him as a little kid. He died at the age of 104 back in 1999 after he fell from his bicycle and the complications that arose from that the following months. Yeah he was a very stubborn guy and wanted to ride his bicycle even at that age knowing full well it's a bad idea at his age, but he always claimed: "I'm only this old because i work in my garden everyday and still ride my bicycle."
@bruh5361
@bruh5361 6 років тому
War er Mitglied der SS?
@aandersson650
@aandersson650 6 років тому
Chartreux stop u hut me with the feels
@AlexNijv
@AlexNijv 6 років тому
He was a wise man. And strong, and lucky.
@jonathanschadenfreude9603
@jonathanschadenfreude9603 6 років тому
Chartreux it was my Great grandpa matthei who has as similar story, then moved to Long Island New York, my current grandpa was a commnader in the US navy from just after ww2 then into Korea, Vietnam eras.......he is 97 atom, drinks gin daily, does very engineered lawn patterns on his lawn with a mower. Truly men of steel
@edi9892
@edi9892 6 років тому
Chartreux humans should move as long as they can. In his age he could have done whatever he wanted as he had little to loose...
@thes.a.s.s.1361
@thes.a.s.s.1361 Рік тому
"Strike at zero hour with overwhelming fire, they're fueled by the fear in their enemies eyes it's a shock troop infiltration a fast and violent escalateion, out of the trenches the Stormtroopers rise!" -Sabaton
@belgiumball2308
@belgiumball2308 Рік тому
yes.
@swordsnspearguy5945
@swordsnspearguy5945 Рік тому
Jägers led the way, the pioneers would join the fray Initiative gained, advancement sustained Lead through direct command, as they're advancing through the land Encircling their flanks, and ravage their ranks
@ahmedfayek344
@ahmedfayek344 Рік тому
@@swordsnspearguy5945 Expose their reinforcements, destroying their lines New doctrine in combat aligns Infantry attacks, exposing the cracks New combat ideals, on the Kaiserschlacht's fields
@leocrown8627
@leocrown8627 4 роки тому
I love how the British were represented as a cup of tea😎
@musclesglasses5790
@musclesglasses5790 3 роки тому
I loved that too, but then the French should be made into a baguette and the Germans into a sauerkraut. Then we would have had a balanced meal.
@Neapoleone-Buonaparte
@Neapoleone-Buonaparte 2 роки тому
@@musclesglasses5790 Wrong. Because the Germans have never been charlatans like the English and the French, but always quintessential professionals.
@JustIn-op6oy
@JustIn-op6oy 2 роки тому
@@Neapoleone-Buonaparte you must be a lot of fun at parties...
@esbenbuurlkke5775
@esbenbuurlkke5775 2 роки тому
@@JustIn-op6oy he must be german.
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 2 роки тому
@@Neapoleone-Buonaparte sounds surprisingly emotional and fallacious that germans are ‘never charlatans’ especially without supporting evidence to such an absolute statement. Unless of course you’re being a troll in which case, carry on you silly goose
@antoinelachapelle3405
@antoinelachapelle3405 4 роки тому
Light Infantry icon "-50% fat" hahaha I love these little jokes in such an otherwise serious documentary lol
@JustIn-op6oy
@JustIn-op6oy 2 роки тому
That sort of levity sprinkled throughout the videos is a big part of why I keep coming back to this channel. Anyone can relay statistics and citations but doing so in a compelling & entertaining way is a real art.
@daviddunkelheit9952
@daviddunkelheit9952 Рік тому
I was in “light infantry” and it isn’t light for the soldiers 😅it is light logistically for the army as it does not have organic transportation
@danielbat9887
@danielbat9887 6 років тому
Ahhh, the Geballte Ladung (Bundle Grenade), the answer to the age long German question:"Hans, let's see what happens if we strap 6 grenade heads together, ja?".
@JagerLange
@JagerLange 6 років тому
"What if we take two ofthose and connect them end-to-end? That way we have 14 charges." "You do realise someone will have to carry and throw this, right?" "Not my problem tbh."
@schmid1.079
@schmid1.079 6 років тому
"Hans, what do we do with all these mines we have left over?" "Lets make a mortar and throw them to the enemy."
@TheAsheybabe89
@TheAsheybabe89 6 років тому
That is an annoyingly shitty translation. Bundled charge would be much better. The word grenade isn't even present.
@schmid1.079
@schmid1.079 6 років тому
I would argue that the german word is actually pretty weird. Bündelgranate sounds way more militaristic while Geballte Ladung sounds more like a civil name.
@jort93z
@jort93z 5 років тому
German and english millitary terms just differ in many ways. In english the projectiles shot by tanks would be tank shells for example, in german it would be panzergranate, which literally translates to "tank grenade". You can't translate those things 1 literally. Honestly, I'd say both work.
@bandit5272
@bandit5272 6 років тому
My two favorite channels did a collab. This pleases me greatly.
@ralfraths3619
@ralfraths3619 6 років тому
You shouldn't quote this Ralf Raths guy, his research is weak and biased.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 6 років тому
I hope you are the original ;)
@lafeeshmeister
@lafeeshmeister 6 років тому
Celebrity in the house! (maybe!)
@DasPanzermuseum
@DasPanzermuseum 6 років тому
He is. I mean: I am. This is confusing. :D
@neilwilson5785
@neilwilson5785 5 років тому
Go to UKposts channel and get 'internal server error' So deffo the right guy, lol.
@alexv1387
@alexv1387 4 роки тому
Herr Raths, ich hätte gerne Ihren Job
@Darkrunn
@Darkrunn 5 років тому
I realize that the "run into your own artillery fire" doctrine is used in conjunction with a creeping barrage to, theoretically, prevent friendly fire, it sounds positively Orkish at first. "Oi! You gitz kepp runnin' into da dakka! We needz more dakka ova 'dere! WAAAAGH!!!"
@AmericanWanderers
@AmericanWanderers 3 роки тому
I think they convinced the troops that casualties from the creeping barrage were much less than what they would have received from the enemy fire without the creeping fire.
@WG55
@WG55 6 років тому
15:59 "For instance, the regulation explicitly states that *the infantry should run into own artillery fire* during the initial assault, and that this technique of the assault battalions should become common practice of the whole infantry." Good Lord.
@doktork3406
@doktork3406 5 років тому
they did a creeping barrage pattern basically the artillery fired while compensating for the infantry's movement. this way ..the shells would only hit the enemy....in theory
@johnd2058
@johnd2058 5 років тому
It's a sound concept, if "they fought with expert timing" (from "Everybody was Kung Fu Fighting")
@wotnograpefruit
@wotnograpefruit 5 років тому
At the same time, the French Army explicitly said, "If the infantry are not taking casualties from their own artillery, they are not following the barrage close enough." World War I, everybody
@T1mbrW0lf
@T1mbrW0lf 5 років тому
Note also that this tactical theory is formulated at the point in the war when German artillery tubes are so thoroughly worn out that impact accuracy varies from "somewhere over there" to "anybody's guess" . . .
@tinman1843
@tinman1843 5 років тому
unfortunately, if you were not that close to the barrage when the artillery fire ceased to allow the infantry to assault the trenches, then the defenders were able to prepare & caused much heavier casualties then one's own artillery fire.
@ErwinRommel-91
@ErwinRommel-91 6 років тому
Two Stormtrooper uploads in one day, you're too kind.
@Axonteer
@Axonteer 6 років тому
So Elite light infantry is basically punchy like heavy infantry but mobile like light infantry - aka less DAKKA and more KAPOM ?
@samgraham2110
@samgraham2110 3 роки тому
This is awesome. We are still using many of these lessons today! Suppression of the enemy positions from long range indirect fire and then seek to utilize machineguns as we get closer to the enemy positions. Once within (ideally) minimum safe distance of machinegun impacts, the infantry takes over internal suppression as they continue to close. Within hand grenade range, frag grenades are used against hostile infantry within cover. Continue to exploit suppression from direct fire and indirect fire until you finish the enemy in hand to hand.
@johnwilliams5007
@johnwilliams5007 6 років тому
I know it's not from a world war but could you at some point cover the fireforce tactics used by the Rhodesians during the Rhodesian Bush war?
@josiahgodwin2933
@josiahgodwin2933 4 роки тому
I third it!!!!
@timothyodeyale6565
@timothyodeyale6565 Рік тому
I know I'm 4 years late but digital battlegrounds released a video about fireforce.
@mattclements1348
@mattclements1348 8 місяців тому
The work you did on these videos is outstanding
@Michael_NV
@Michael_NV 5 років тому
Nice work! I appreciate your efforts to support your narration with references. That's real study.
@ajace5883
@ajace5883 4 роки тому
Stormtrooper tactic: Always miss, so the whole squad can be shot by the main heroes.
@Dragons_Armory
@Dragons_Armory 6 років тому
INDY!!!
@dorianmurer5474
@dorianmurer5474 5 років тому
Dragon's Armory ii
@SeniorRed1337
@SeniorRed1337 5 років тому
ich liebe deine videos :D großartige arbeit! weiter so!
@donrussell1606
@donrussell1606 6 років тому
Always interesting, thank you
@onesmoothstone5680
@onesmoothstone5680 5 років тому
I appreciate your well prepared and presented programs. thank you
@mikked01
@mikked01 6 років тому
Here from the Great War channel, thanks for the more in depth look at the development of this (at the time) entirely new concept in modern war.
@yummyyum4626
@yummyyum4626 5 років тому
I love your videos dude. They help me with my projects not just in history, but art. I wanna create some cool stuff and you do an awesome job in providing the right material I need. Thank you again, keep it up!
@belgiumball2308
@belgiumball2308 Рік тому
MHV is austrian and you are a painter. Fuse pls
@serg1812serg
@serg1812serg 4 роки тому
I really love your work. You manage to present a rather complex topic with easy to follow narrative and balanced comparison between theoretical and practical implementation of tactics. I do hope you`ll find the time to make a few videos about the Balkan front of 1914/15 since it`s not very well covered and is in great part neglected when it comes to ww1. I mention this mostly because this video reminded me of the first Allied victories in ww1 at Cer and Kolubara (present day Serbia). Serbian army used a variant of "assault tactics" that they developed and perfected during the Balkan Wars that preceded ww1. As a matter of fact, it is now generally accepted that the early victories were due to the combined use of machine guns, field guns and especially hand-grenades, or rather the way this weapons were used. Since most fighting occurred in hill terrain speed and movement were of paramount importance. Often, the Serbian artillery (lighter guns such as the french quick firing 75mm field gun M1897) would be moved forward during the engagement to better support the infantry (and keep up with it). Used in direct-fire role it was devastatingly effective against massed infantry that tried to pass narrow hill ravines or was exposed coming down the hill. As a matter of fact, this approach made it possible for Serbia to engage and defeat a far larger and better equipped opponent through hit-and-run attacks that were ideal for the hilly terrain not suited for heavier artillery pieces and large-scale offensives that the Austro-Hungarians were planning to conduct. As I said, it`s a rather interesting but often neglected front that saw less trench warfare (compared to the western front) and more fast-paced engagements.
@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374
@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374 3 роки тому
This is one of the best channels on Y-tube, and love conflict history..Epecially the 2nd war as dad was with the 7th Army 3rd Infantry division, and was overseas for almost all four years of our involvement. He was there when they blew the giant swastika on top of Nuremberg stadium, as well as the raid on eagle's nest and fought alongside Audie Murphy 💪🏼😎
@myriaddsystems
@myriaddsystems 3 роки тому
At last someone who knows what he's talking about AND gets the German pronunciation right..
@thomasdemarteau6367
@thomasdemarteau6367 2 роки тому
He is german !
@jakobmax3299
@jakobmax3299 Рік тому
From a german i would hope so...
@darthdogeyt3260
@darthdogeyt3260 10 місяців тому
he's german :skull:
@doktertjiftjaf5186
@doktertjiftjaf5186 8 місяців тому
Of he would get the pronunciation wrong, there is no hope for any non-German.
@Ace0nPoint
@Ace0nPoint 6 років тому
This man is a treasure. Just keeps getting better.
@bendover1333
@bendover1333 6 років тому
Great video ! Any chance you could examine the Austro-Hungarian "Jägdkommando" in detail? We rarely hear anything about them and I'm very interested in them as a result
@MGB-learning
@MGB-learning 2 роки тому
Outstanding video and presentation.
@Native_love
@Native_love 6 років тому
WOW! What a great video! Would have liked a sentence (a nod) to the innovative equipment developed for these troops-armored (steel) vests and helmet frontal covers, submachine gun use and of course extra grenades. LOVED IT! Thank you!
@DoubleMrE
@DoubleMrE 5 років тому
I learned some new things here. Good video. Thanks a lot !
@victorwagner2423
@victorwagner2423 5 років тому
1. Always check twice if those are the droids you are looking for 2. If it's THEM, blast'em
@filipeamaral216
@filipeamaral216 6 років тому
The image for "Stosstrup use Surprise, Speed & Small Units" was the pinacle of this amazing video.
@detoxlangley8863
@detoxlangley8863 4 роки тому
Excellent presentation.
@jameskoch9567
@jameskoch9567 3 роки тому
There's something weirdly... adorable about when history channels cross over and try to cross promote. Especially when they have wildly different styles. MHV sounds like he's trying to be the co-host on an informerical and I love it. "That's very interesting but what can stosstrupptaktik do to save my family money?"
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 3 роки тому
Nice, most people call such videos "collaborations", whereas you are completely correct, this is cross-promotion. I do a lot of collaborations, but those often don't result in content. There are some exceptions like interviews etc.
@olliemaxwell18
@olliemaxwell18 5 років тому
Great video on one of my favorite topics! Thanks :)
@filipeamaral216
@filipeamaral216 6 років тому
It is also important to notice that the modern Squad system was born on the French Army with their Combat Group (Groupe de Combat), hence the Germans using the name Gruppe. The war started with the infantry from both sides being counted by bayonets with every infantrymen with his rifle and bayonet advancing en masse and charging the enemy under direct support of artillery guns. The final bayonet charge would deliver the 'coup de grace' and put the enemy in flight. The year of 1915 is instrumental for the development of tactics in the new trench covered battlefield. With the men still advancing in line with an ever increasing violence of bombardment but still being unable to destroy the barbed wire. A specially lightened attack order was introduced by the French Army in 1915, and by October the Adrian helmet was standard issue (the first modern steel helmet). The introduction of the Chauchat and the Viven-Bessières (VB) rifle grenade in 1916 prompted something of a rethink, with the infantry becoming a unit of interdependent combined arms (the first modern infantry unit). Each assault now consisted of a number of waves. A first wave formed by the rifle/bomber half-platoons, accompanied by engineers with wire cutters, was followed by a second wave made up of the bomber/VB half-platoons. A third wave followed 30 metters (33 yards) behind, again consisting of bombers and rifleman, with the role of clearing the captured trench. And behind them came the remaining two platoons of the company, with the VBs on the flank and in the centre, acting as a reserve. The role of the first wave was to capture the first line of enemy trenches and then move on, with their main objective to gain ground; the second wave acted as a reserve, and could pass through the first in order to maintain the impetus of the attack. The moppers-up of the third wave (trench cleaners) took possession of the trench, bombing their way along the traverses, and reducing any strongpoints. Formations for the assault were kept flexible. The first two waves might be in extended order, with four or five paces between each man, but the third and fourth could be in columns of squads, to make it easier to maneuver quickly; remembering that the supply of grenades dictate the advance. Yet, all too frequently, the pace and form of attacks were ruled by a rigid timetable that left insufficient discretion to local commanders to exploit success (one of the main advances for the infantry in WWII was the portable communication systems). By 1916, the French Army was moving towards tactical methods that emphasized concentrated firepower and the flexible use of infantry in "fire and maneuver/movement" advances, with infantrymen covering each other by organic fire (rifle and light machine gun fire) as they moved in alternate groups (like we do today). In 1916-17 Nivelle and Pétain refined this method, attacking limited objectives with the heavy artillery concentrations necessary to ensure success. During the battle of Malmaison, in October 1917, General Franchet d'Esperey, the commander of the Sixth Army, successfully introduced specially trained squads of infantry whose role was to accompany the tanks, in advance of the main infantry assault, and direct them towards their targets. Each armored group was associated with an infantry regiment or with a battalion of chasseurs à pied (light infantry, élite, hence the smaller unit).
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 6 років тому
All the armies were moving towards the modern squad based Infantry Platoon, not just the French and German. While the armies of France and Germany got there a little faster due to the attritional battles at Verdun, the British went through the same learning process later in the year during the Somme. It is interesting to look at the Infantry platoon of any of the principle opponants in 1914 and in 1918, in the British Army for example the Platoon was a purely administrative unit in 1914, it often did not even have a full time officer. The British in 1914 considered the Company the smallest unit for battlefield operations. As you said, they were all riflemen. By 1918 this had changed completely, the platoon was smaller for a start, and was built around a Lewis Gun squad comprising 2 or 3 guns. Then you had grenadier squad, rifle grenadier squad, a mortar squad with 2 inch Stoke mortars as well as your regular rifle squads. The main difference with the British Army is that these tactics were NOT relegated to elite formations, but were standard training for ALL British Infantry by mid to late 1917. While that meant the average quality was not as high as in the German Storm Divisions of Spring 1918 it also did not have the disasterous effect of removing all the best officers, NCO's and soldiers from the Line Divisions that the German army suffered that led to serious morale problems, especially once the Spring Offensives had failed. It is certain that WWI was the birthplace of modern Combined Arms Operations though, as several Historians have noted, you could take Napolean to 1914 and he would essentially understand the battlefield. Take him to 1918 just four years later and he would not have a clue about how to progress. War, and the waging of war had undergone a series ofchanges in those 4 short years that were utterly astounding, and utterly revolutionary. I have often said that the German tactical Doctrine of WWII was in fact born out of the Stosstruppen of WWI.... There are certainly very glaring similarities between them, and its possible to see the evolution from 1918 through to 1939...
@filipeamaral216
@filipeamaral216 6 років тому
The French command also adopted the new system for the whole army: it was the new modern way of fighting. The French Command also considered the use of separate assault units as a lack of trust in the regular troops, which did dilute its quality. Also worth nothing: it is a historical fact that the Germans ultimately failed to really translate the tactical successes of stormtroopers into operational let alone strategic victory. The French motorization, according to Ludendorff, was the real deal. The Germans would take those lessons to heart and the squad automatic weapon, trucks, halftracks and tanks would receive special attention for the next war. More on tactical changes: The principle role of the Chauchat was to provide a mobile barrage during the advance. This required skilled teamwork on the part of the crew, changing the magazines while on the move to keep up the volume of fire. Yet for the individual rifleman, firing during the advance was discouraged, as it was felt that it simply slowed forward progress. Firing, by the platoon or half-platoon, was permitted only to cover its own advance or that of a neighbouring platoon, or to deal with a knot of enemy resistence. The men of the new fire and support teams were given new equipment for their spare ammunition. The Chauchat gunners each wore semi-circular pouches on the waistbelt, containing one spare magazine each, as well as a pack containing a further eight magazines and 64 loose rounds, and a haversack containing a further four magazines. The rifle grenadiers and bombers each carried a special haversack, which held the grenades in individual pouches inside. The rifle grenade cup was carried in its own pouche attached to the user's waistbelt. The lightened attack order of 1915 took into practical consideration the infantry's need to fight the terrain before fighting the Germans. The pack was now to be left in the second line; instead, rations and spare ammunition were rolled up in a blanket and worn bandolier-style. Later experience at Verdun showed how difficult it was to keep men in the front line supplied with fresh water, so every men was given a second water bottle.
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 6 років тому
As I said, looking at the evolution of infantry tactics, *especially* squad level infantry tactics during WWI is looking at the start of modern combined arms warfare. Sure the idea of fireteams did not really see universal acceptance until after WWII, but the idea of self contained platoons, with specialist squads, able to field a variety of weaponry in order to obtain a firepower, and thus maneuver advantage was something all the main combatants of WWI learned and was common practice by 1918, and considered normal only 20 years later in 1939. Those lessons were learned the hard way, which is why I personally believe that the modern interpretation of many WWI Generals needs addressing, these were men who were learning an entirely new, and utterly revolutionary style of warfare, from scratch. Unlike us, they did not have a hundred years of combined arms warfare to work from, they were making it up as they went on.... You only have to look at it, in 1914 aircraft were little more than powered kites, by 1918, only four years later, you had specialised recon, fighter, bomber and even torpedo aircraft. In 1914 the idea of tanks was something barely even hinted at, by 1918 you had methods by which infantry and tanks could coordinate and you had seen the first hints of massed tank warfare. Even in WWII, hell even NOW tanks are most often used in support of Infantry..... The MAIN failure of WWI technology was communications, while radio did exist the smallest radios were truck mounted, try getting a truck mounted radio across the shell torn landscape that was no mans land! The most reliable form of communication was telephone, which meant the defender ALWAYS had an advantage when it came to communications, as the attacker generally had to rely on pigeons or runners... both of which had a habit of dying before they got their messages back to even Batallion, let alone Brigade HQ..... People all to often forget the Communications restraints WWI Generals were under.... it is literally the only war in history where the Generals, once an attack went in, were not in communication with their troops... and THAT led directly to the modern practice of giving the Commanding Officer on the Ground far more responsibility, you just have to look at how much responsibility a Platoon leader had in 1914, compared to 1918.... in the latter he had far more freedom to use his own initiative..... I think all to few people realise exactly how much warfare changed in those short 4 and a half years..... nice to speak to some who do. Take care
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 6 років тому
Actually the mosern squad system started in the prussian army and was first used in the battle of Königgratz.
@filipeamaral216
@filipeamaral216 6 років тому
The modern squad system revolves around the Squad Automatic Weapon, which is the light machine gun or, in French parlance, the rifle machine gun (machine rifle in the English translations I know). The unit strength stopped being counted by the rifles and started being counted by the LMGs. These new weapons gave the infantry squad an organic capacity for supression in order to execute fire and movement. It is worth noting that the Japanese tried an arcaic solution in 1904-05 by employing Hotchkiss M1914 in fire and movement, with groups advancing in turns (bigger groups of course, but with the same principle). Just another lesson not learned from that conflict.
@MaxSluiman
@MaxSluiman 5 років тому
I really like the nuanced narrative you bring. The zjerman aczzend izz a nise bonoos.
@DavidSmith-ss1cg
@DavidSmith-ss1cg 5 років тому
Great job, as usual! I have recently read(again) Mosier's great - and quite controversial - book "The Myth of the Great War." In it he described the growth of stormtrooper tactics a bit differently than you do, and placed their development in the hands of the combat engineers, AKA pioneer troops. I can understand, now, that the stormtrooper tactics were not a sinister ploy developed by a race of hateful misanthropes, or social Darwinists with guns, but the logical and admirable evolution of what we now know to be the most effective military tactics in existance; the way to get the most "bang for the buck." It came about because Germany was fighting a war on two(three, really) fronts and was quite outnumbered. Thanks to your video, I better understand how these innovative methods came to be. I like Indy's cameo, too. Good work!
@TheLoyalOfficer
@TheLoyalOfficer 6 років тому
Great work! Thank you.
@andreyradchenko8200
@andreyradchenko8200 2 роки тому
I think there's also a lot of 18th-19th century flank company tactics in these, like the light infantry's mobile style of fighting and firing by files (which are in a way proto-fireteams) and grenadiers' shock trooper role.
@barthoving2053
@barthoving2053 5 років тому
I personally think the most revolutionary aspect of the Stormtrooper tactic is at 15:10. When the squads were ordered just to push on. Basically this meant the higher commands staffs transferred the whole development of the offense to the lower echelons. While before war in Europe was the ideas always was about the commander keeping in control of his troops and thus the flow of the battle. Most famously demonstrated early in the Great War by the English still attacking in a walking line so the commanders could oversee everything.In 1918 these small squads were basically unleashed which make them nearly impossible to track higher up the chain of command let alone control. Other countries experimented with squad based assault units. But only the Germans let them loose in a grant offensive. A precursor to the WOII Blitzkrieg when after the breakthrough the tank squad commanders were allowed free decision of action once broken through to accomplish maximum advancement . Of course then the wireless radio helped out, but the distance increased also.
@klobiforpresident2254
@klobiforpresident2254 6 років тому
When you mention the effect authors ascribe to the flamethrower it reminds me of the game Day of Infamy. Each class there has a different advantage. Engineers can carry more weight, assault units move faster, etcetera. Of course different units also have different loadout options (such as your average infantryman not having access to the engineer's 'splody stuff :/ ). What is the advantage of flamethrower units? "+ has flamethrower".
@luqmanilyas8217
@luqmanilyas8217 6 років тому
Yes my 2 fave youtubers love the video already thanks
@GTD_Galatea
@GTD_Galatea 5 років тому
This is probably one of the best videos on youtube. Google should give you a medal.
@metro3041
@metro3041 5 років тому
Everyone knows Google's medals go to people that flag every video with even a fraction of a second of music in it
@NekkidInjun
@NekkidInjun 5 років тому
I think there is a huge dearth of content about historical infantry tactics on youtube and you fill that niche so perfectly in this video without even trying. I really need to learn German, seems like so many the best personal accounts from the world wars are German.
@titantanic7255
@titantanic7255 11 місяців тому
I saved a bunch of videos on storm trooper tactics and uniform and equipment because I was doing it for Airsoft with my squad. Trying to learn all of the movement and use of equipment. And so I was watching Andy’s (the Great War) videos and your tactical videos. So when I was watching this one I was super sleepy and when Andy showed up I was so confused. I was like “did a new video play? Did I accidentally press another video?” And then It took a moment for me to realize that he was in your video! I was quite surprised but yes I watched his videos on the stormtroopers.
@NormanMStewart
@NormanMStewart 6 років тому
Apparently, the Stormtrooper in this thumbnail was Saddam Hussein. So sorry.
@NormanMStewart
@NormanMStewart 6 років тому
Note the 'stache. Lucky düde.
@NormanMStewart
@NormanMStewart 6 років тому
What shall we call this mysterious thumbnail stormtrooper?
@andresmartinezramos7513
@andresmartinezramos7513 6 років тому
Norman M. Stewart Shädam Hussein
@NormanMStewart
@NormanMStewart 6 років тому
Andrés The Royal Marine 😋
@TheAsheybabe89
@TheAsheybabe89 6 років тому
Aloha snackbar
@jeffstowe4860
@jeffstowe4860 Рік тому
Very good stuff here. Thank you.
@TheMoonIsAConspiracyTheory
@TheMoonIsAConspiracyTheory 5 років тому
Great video, Really really enjoyed it Sehr Gut :)
@militarian9759
@militarian9759 5 років тому
im a huge history person and thinking of making videos like these but in another way i love your channel so im planning to make my own history series
@butter5842
@butter5842 5 років тому
Hi MHV. Could you do a video on how effective bomber defensive gunners were? For example, the practicality and hit-rate of the gunners on an American B-17 bomber or British Lancaster. Was having gunners worth putting more crew at risk?
@ciuyr2510
@ciuyr2510 5 років тому
you make amazing stuff
@weltvonalex
@weltvonalex 6 років тому
i love the pictographs for each country, pickelhaube, Barrett and a cup of tea!
@simonfangstrom
@simonfangstrom 6 років тому
Another great video
@leonaldobrum
@leonaldobrum 6 років тому
There you go: a Master Work, only a true German would be able to come up with. Excellent!
@literalantifaterrorist4673
@literalantifaterrorist4673 2 роки тому
🤨
@belgiumball2308
@belgiumball2308 Рік тому
Hes an austrian non-painter
@vroomkaboom108
@vroomkaboom108 5 місяців тому
​@@literalantifaterrorist4673got somthing to say?
@roadbone1941
@roadbone1941 5 років тому
Great video
@0DanielPerez0
@0DanielPerez0 6 років тому
I absolutely love the thumbnail of this video
@Verdunveteran
@Verdunveteran 5 років тому
Great video!
@MrArtbv
@MrArtbv 6 років тому
Having carried a M-16/203 for overr two years as a Sr. EM/Jr. NCO back in the late 70s early 80s; I was struck even then how there was NO doctrine per se for it's tactical use. This was no NG or reserve unit, but the 82nd Abn. Even range time was extremely limited, which I guess was related to cost per round. Considering how lightly ABN forces typically are, it's more than puzzling that squad and platoon tactics were basically silent on it's formal employment, Think about the fact there were 6 per platoon with an area range of 300 meters and RPMs of 10-15 per gunner depending on experince and circumstance. On two different occasions at the range I brought up the idea of practicing concentrated area fire by the entire platoon's complement... I even proposed designating and shifting targets using the 40mm colored smoke grenades at hand. ABSOLUTELY ZERO INTEREST. I've always thought that the "203" is incredibly under-utilized. If anyone has experience with them, or thoughts on the subject... Feel Free.
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 6 років тому
Infantry mortars are scary, and this is what, basically two of them per squad? Logic would dictate that they are wery effective, but I dont know how much actual combat usage they get. The insurgents in asstan do use rpg 7s in a similar role though.
@billwill7865
@billwill7865 5 років тому
Arthur Brogden I totally agree with you, I also did 203, 90 mm recoilless, same problem with the 90 training even worse. I also was a M60 m-gunner witch had lots of training and rounds to shoot, like over 60,000 rounds in a year just for me alone in S Korea in 88' I wish I could have gotten to know the 90mm and 203 as well as I knew m60. as I feel the other two weapons could be and maybe 'are' more effective and definitely an asset to the squad/platoon and would greatly increase effectiveness with much increased and needed training.
@MrArtbv
@MrArtbv 5 років тому
Well, as the FNG, when I first got to Bragg, in a Recon Plt I ended up humpin a "Pig" as we called the M-60 for about 9 months. The 82nd version had a cut down barrel compared to standard issue, so it could be jumped in one piece. So effective range was reduced from I think 1100 meters to 900...but again, that was 35 plus years ago. The 90mm recoiless was being contemplated as a supplemental AT/Bunker weapon with modern HESH/Heat warheads, but nothing happened before I left. I will say the "Dragon" was seen as a poor joke. I went to Dragon school and qualified as an "Expert" without EVER firing a live shot....go figure. I think that basically below company level formal tactics and doctrine fall off because there's NO path to career "enhancement" in it for a West Point pro. After all, Plt Ldr is the very first ticket they punch and one they forget as quickly as possible. NCO's, no matter how Senior, are strickly forbidden from ANY attempts to formulate and implement Army wide anything. So at the very pointiest point of the spear there's a vacuum. One that sooner or later we'll pay for in blood. Regards, Art
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 5 років тому
+Arthur Brogden I was under the impression the dragon was just generally all round shite. Was it just the training then?
@MrArtbv
@MrArtbv 5 років тому
I need no channel youtube! No. It was crap. The launch blast was so great it was almost impossible to gain control of the actual missle during initial flight. Also the launch signature itself was a HUGE red flag, and the engagement envelope put you well inside the cmdrs turret mounted hvy machine guns range. So he could engage the actual exposed Dragon gunner b4 the missile would reach the target vehicle. It was essentially a suicide launch. Why we didn't just copy the RPG series... Well, REASONS, I guess.
@LtActionCam
@LtActionCam 2 роки тому
We still use many of the tactics (referring manly about the ‘art’ aspect of conducting warfare) today. The concept of mass (at a decisive point), speed, and surprise are universal tenants that are always sought after during offensive based operations.
@ottlakafka3409
@ottlakafka3409 6 років тому
That slick überleitung at 1:50
@someguythatlookslikeme8306
@someguythatlookslikeme8306 5 років тому
2 of my favorite tubers
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 6 років тому
Thank you
@ewaldseiland8558
@ewaldseiland8558 5 років тому
Mein Gott, Deine Literaturliste ist beeindruckend. Ich kenne das von Ralf Raths, habe ich beim Praktikum beim MGFA bekommen, aber die anderen Bücher... wie kommt man an soviel Spezialliteratur?
@guycalabrese4040
@guycalabrese4040 5 років тому
3:35 The swedes did this back in the thirty years war. The lghter infantry formations had their own "regimental" pieces, which they used to tear Tillys heavy formations at Breitenfeld to shreds
@edwardlozano8807
@edwardlozano8807 6 років тому
Indy brought me here!
@terras6418
@terras6418 5 років тому
You know it's funny, at this point whenever something WW1 comes up I expect Indy to show up. Nice to see you Indy.
@memo_mauserlorettini5979
@memo_mauserlorettini5979 2 роки тому
Soon I will publish my Bulgarian collection of manuals, from 1915 for stormgroups to 1943-1944 for so called shocktroops, or .....maybe punch or hit groups- in time already, developed to different infantry parts- hit company, hit platoon, hit section. Maybe with my collection of Cold Trench arms from period , not only bayonets,or their variations made by every Regimental workshop. And of course the shovels & other pioneer instrumens which everyone must keep'em ready even in a Gas Attack. With Respects to all your hard work and keep on!)
@jonasmuller3815
@jonasmuller3815 4 роки тому
My greatgrandfather was in the Sturmabtaillon Nr.5 Rohr in the 4th Sturmkompanie he fought in Verdun and captured the Fort Duamont.I am glad he kept his documents and photos from these timeframe!
@rianquinn7833
@rianquinn7833 6 років тому
Great video! Came here from the great war channel.
@burntsavvy8299
@burntsavvy8299 6 років тому
Just came here after I watched The Great War's coverage on the Allied Defenses in spring 1918. By the way,is it possible for you to make a video on the opinions of the crewmen who operated captured enemy tanks? Or even tanks supplied by your Allies,like the Lend-Lease Program.
@greysector1330
@greysector1330 2 роки тому
Erwin Rommel's book "Infantry Attacks" was covering this material topic
@forgottenfronts6945
@forgottenfronts6945 10 місяців тому
Studied this a good bit and taught some people in a ww1 game using these tactics, won every time lol
@mindfuldevelopment1668
@mindfuldevelopment1668 6 років тому
thanks!
@vojtechsulc5899
@vojtechsulc5899 6 років тому
Would you consider to make a video about differences and relations between strategic, tactical and operational level? :)
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 6 років тому
planned for quite some time, not sure when it will happen.
@FlexBeanbag
@FlexBeanbag Рік тому
ukposts.infoBmc9NFfhx74?feature=share
@spartancolonel
@spartancolonel 6 років тому
Top 10 anime crossovers
@blugaledoh2669
@blugaledoh2669 5 років тому
EdSkywalker uh
@whathell6t
@whathell6t 5 років тому
EdSkywalker Are you talking about Fate/Stay Night X Mobile Suit Gundam: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/pqRhlmybbGikqas.html
@NickPhil
@NickPhil 6 років тому
Please MORE small group size, tactics videos! I even watched the German Squad tactics vid. For good old times sake!!!
@TheZINGularity
@TheZINGularity Рік тому
This video made me realize that (atleast) all modern offensive infantry tactics can be traced back to this principle
@johngibson2884
@johngibson2884 3 роки тому
I love how you use the British teacup to symbolize the British forces 🙏 ...quite historically accurate . For the militarily conservative British, that's about all they used the water cooled machine gun for in special tactics...."trench tea"😎 . It was to make hot tea at the front ... literally . A "special " tactic the British used ...until it was formally banned...by the British Vickers machine gun was to make Trench Tea ....a bloke rattled off half a belt ( 50 rds) of 0.303 in. MG Ammo and collect the boiled water for 4pm tea time from the condenser can ...instant hot tea for up to 6 men ! So much ammunition was wasted and positions compromised of the teetotalers 4 p.m. antics that the British military formally outlawed the practice as a court-martial offence to stop its widespread use .
@buckschiff3813
@buckschiff3813 3 роки тому
i need that "surprise" icon on a shirt please!!
@SpazzyMcGee1337
@SpazzyMcGee1337 6 років тому
Seeing Indy pop in was pretty trippy.
@orionmelton3226
@orionmelton3226 5 років тому
I love using this stuff and seeing how I can screw around with the Arma 3 editor with it. That's the closest I'm ever getting to being a soldier, unfortunately.
@antonmoric1469
@antonmoric1469 5 років тому
It's all good Orion. I am a veteran and also a military history/tactics/strategy enthusiast. And I have known many a decent strategist who never wore a uniform. As far as I am concerned, helping to keep alive the military art and science is it's own type of service... cheers!
@alainarchambault2331
@alainarchambault2331 5 років тому
Interesting thumbnail. It's like, "Look! I got the beer! Come and get some!"
@MakeMeThinkAgain
@MakeMeThinkAgain 6 років тому
You should have gotten some icons displayed on The Great War episode. It would have been really cool if they just floated above Indy's desk.
@klobiforpresident2254
@klobiforpresident2254 6 років тому
I like the added visual elements. Weird that you do this now that Bismarck is doing more stuff too. I haven't ever seen the two of you in the same room.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 6 років тому
you mean the blueprints? I first used them on the Me262 video back in 2016, but didn't use them again for ages. Bismarck and me work rather closely and actually in late 2017 there are two videos of both of in one room, but maybe you are being ironic.
@klobiforpresident2254
@klobiforpresident2254 6 років тому
I'm being ironic. Because both your content and voice is, to my ears, close enough I thought you were the same person for several weeks.
@klobiforpresident2254
@klobiforpresident2254 6 років тому
I just rewatched the Me 262 video to make a more or less informed comment. That is not what I meant, I meant the bar at the top of the screen.
@DebatingWombat
@DebatingWombat 5 років тому
I think the difference between the blast grenade and the fragmentation grenade can be stated very simply: A blast grenade can be thrown farther than its lethal/wounding radius, while the fragmentation grenade can’t. Thus, I’ve also seen the blast grenade labelled as an ‘offensive’ hand grenade while the fragmentation grenade was labelled ‘defensive’.
@bryceallen1334
@bryceallen1334 4 роки тому
0:02 “Sorry I’m driving through a tunnel”
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 6 років тому
"war is a team effort" = "it takes two to tango"
@mikerangel1545
@mikerangel1545 3 роки тому
The thing your missing here is the German word(Not Deutsch). Stossen means to 'bump'. These troops were not meant to annihilate the enemy. They were to bump the defending troops to an defense that the regular infantry could deal with. These troops found weak spots in the line where demoralized troops were ready to surrender or fall back/side. Thus leaving brave fighting troops to be surrounded, isolated and destroyed later.
@YoJimBoHugabaJoe
@YoJimBoHugabaJoe 11 місяців тому
listening to this vid in background and genuinely thought he was saying head grenades and thought he was talking about the crazy helmet cannons someone designed for ww1
@JokahFACE
@JokahFACE 6 років тому
Interesting watching this after having just read Ernst Jünger's "In Stahlgewittern."
@dylanjamesramirez6061
@dylanjamesramirez6061 6 років тому
We need a video about partroopers! (Fallschrimjäger-101 Airbone division)
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 6 років тому
just need one more book, see my wishlist ;)
@metro3041
@metro3041 5 років тому
I'd love to see a video about the Fallschrimjager
@woooweee
@woooweee 5 років тому
must have been friendly fire hell clearing a trench in multiple locations simultaneously.
@dirt0133
@dirt0133 5 років тому
WOW, two fantastic content creators supporting one another, what has UKposts come to!
@jarrodkeiser9458
@jarrodkeiser9458 Рік тому
Watching this to get better at Verdun
@LewisRenovation
@LewisRenovation 6 років тому
No heavy metal music at the end?? Thanks for another great video.
@Paveway-chan
@Paveway-chan 5 років тому
Man, how interesting! This is the sort of stuff that makese want to sit down and write a book... or go and threaten Dice at gunpoint to make a Battlefield game about it xP
@spot1401
@spot1401 5 років тому
please do a special on how you create the icons. always blows me away (or takes me by storm, to put it that way)
@Filli99
@Filli99 6 років тому
In the future will be a video about italian assault troops, the arditi?
@JagerLange
@JagerLange 6 років тому
If not, The Great War already has a special episode if you haven't seen it.
@sharkfinbite
@sharkfinbite 6 років тому
It would be a good idea. To me, the Battlefield 1 game appears to generated misunderstanding of what they really were, their role was, and how efficient they were at their job. I remember one comment online doing that typical nationalistic chest pounding stating they just squashed all Austrians they faced, didn't let them penetrate into Italian land, and went all the way into their lands and.... you get the idea. Just the typical very young teenage and early 20's naive laymen that mistakes everything he saw in a game, and surmises he created about what it might have been like in ww1 to be true. Basically the same typical thing a lot of online trolls and whiners that get on Americans about. They were good but they were not... they were not rambo kids. Haha. They had enough defeats or failures to let people know it is nothing but hubris to have such a idea they have defeated every opposition and went that far into Austria at that scale. (The person wasn't doing normal nationalistic pride banter. I mean he was literally thinking they opponent was inferior and weak. The type behavior that can be recognized to lead to karma on himself if he didn't realized his hubris.) I am pretty sure even the veterans themselves would laugh at some of the crap I have seen some people have stated about them once the game came out. "Yeah. I don't remember it being that way. I frankly don't feel comfortable joining in the gloating people are doing about us. It's because I know the reality, and the reality leaves a biting sting in my heart of the experience if I tried, actually knowing what really went down." I am not against people taking pride in stuff like this. It's just that I want education and the truth be taught to people along with stuff like this in the media, so that people don't form too much of a misinformed ego they start trashing others
@joshuamartel5685
@joshuamartel5685 6 років тому
It would be nice to see the evolution of Canadian forces over the course of the war
@kethwintham344
@kethwintham344 6 років тому
In the beginning, they used real maple syrup, but by the end, they were so desperate that they were forced to use artificial maple syrup. Those were dark times for the polar lumberjacks.
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