Do Scientology next! 🤠

I listened to the video. So no one stole anything? No one got rich? You mentioned the church spent $1 billion last year on charity and operations. Your video states that nine transactions occurred last year between Ensign Peak to the Church for its operations and charity work. The money is being used, just not being drained. How is saving money a scandal? I just saw a story of this church donating $5 million to the earthquake relief in Turkey and Syria. Not a single Mormon there I bet. Its not publicly traded and there was no crime mentioned here. A fine for filing LLCs incorrectly? The whistle blower gets 30% of taxes owed, but no taxes are owed and no crime was found by the SEC, so why is he still relevant and not the one with ill intentions?

@@KingofQueens452 you may have listened but chose to understand nothing. it's what you've been told to do from an early age, I get it. Drone

Flimsy arguments all around, grasping at straws. The fact that 60 Minutes decided to reveal the the whistle blower's possible profit motive at the last second of the story shows that they are just as concerned about optics as the church is.

@stefan c He who is without sin, cast the first stone. I won't be swayed to believe lying news reporters against my church THAT easily. Sheesh. It's not illegal to use means of storing the Lords money away from prying eyes and greedy hands of financial institutions and over reaching governments. The money is not being used in any nefarious ways, in fact they even said that the money is just sitting in the account. The companies that the church "bailed out" are owned by the church and was done to lift up the businesses during the corrupt recession of the government. Not even in the slightest is this illegal in any way. Satan is deceiving, cunning and sly and weak faith will change your heart. The media tries to twist this into a WORLDY problem. The Lord has infinite knowledge and wisdom that surpasses any human understanding. Trust in the Lord with ALL THINE HEART lean not unto your own understanding in all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct they path.

That is the sad truth.

Yes thankyou.

@@Khig494 what part is bogus?

Crooks beget crooks...

Because he said none of the money comes out and then the other guy said 9 transactions were paid out this past year

Religion doesn't follow petty human-made rules. They're exempt from practically any law they want to be.

​@@calvinhoward3808 yeah like pedophilia.

Wrong. It's is a right. It's clearly written in the Constitution. Anyway. Income tax is theft. Have a nice day.

This is what all non profits are doing. Non profit= make a killing and it's different from Not-For-profit.. many people have no idea there's a difference between the two and the terms often get used interchangeably because of the confusion or misconception

Absolutely. Every church should have to prove that they use what they would have paid in taxes, towards charities and humanitarian causes. The Mormon church is likely barely spending 1/5 of what they’d be taxed on charity.

No one stole anyone's money

The Bible clearly states that tithes is for God, anyone misappropriating such funds or using them for anything other than doing God’s will here on earth is stealing from the house of God. Furthermore they’re stealing from their members when they’re tithing in good faith believing the money is going towards good causes when it’s really just being hoarded in a shadow hedge fund.

According to Malachi, 10% of our income is not even ours, it belongs to God. (Malachi 3:8) The ancient law of tithing is linked to the eternal principle of abundance. Those who pay tithing from the heart, as Abel the son of Adam did, will experience abundance and prosperity not just in this life but for the eternities. It's a beautiful thing! But for those who don't understand, and don't seek to understand, it leads to jealousy and bitter feelings, that's what happened to Cain (see Genesis 4). As a faithful tithe payer, frankly, what happens to the money once it leaves my hands is non of my business, it's not my problem. That is now the problem of the Council Of Disposition Of Tithes' problem. I am satisfied that the leadership of the church has followed Jesus Christ's guidance as set forth in the parable of the talents (see Matt. 25:14-31). They have done well in putting the Lord's money to the exchangers, that when He comes they will turn over the moneys with usury.

Love this! Thank you!

@@BrianTerrillit definitely is stealing when you take someone’s money and don’t do with it what you say. Is it illegal no, no it’s not! Go read the Gospel of John friend! What did he do to the Pharisees in the Temple in Jerusalem! Jesus did it twice. First time at Passover.

The Church does hire outside auditors to come in constantly and make sure all is copacetic. True.

In Mormonism they are taught that the leaders are Prophets of God so they trust them 100% and therein lies the danger

@@phav1832 apparently that doesn't work very well

​@@FFM115 Please call it the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. There is no such thing as Mormonism or Mormon Church. It was a nickname of the Church.

@@Seriously...576 is that why the church spent millions of dollars on marketing campaigns to promote the brand name Mormon? Or you forgot about “ I am a Mormon” and “ Meet the Mormons “ those marketing campaigns were very costly, just the Billboard on Times Square was over a million dollars to run the slogan “ Meet the Mormons” maybe Thomas S Monson was under Satan’s influence then.🙄🙄🙄🙄

Getting a healthy 11% of any money found if the church owes, is a ripe incentive, isn’t it? Remember if the church owes money for just keeping or investing the money, is this wrong if the purpose is to help those in time of need? Which it does consistently.

Yep I’m sure that 11% had nothing to do with it, what a loser

Lets hope members stop tithing their money and look into the history of this 'church'. Its history is built on cons and crimes.

@@123basalt : Negligible amount of money appropriated to charity when pitted against the backdrop of the immense assets and holdings the church is privileged to. If you paid any attention to this segment, you'd realize that funds appropriated for charity haven't been used for charitable endeavors and instead redirected those funds toward its diversified portfolio. In case you also weren't aware, the church is a global institution and the economic crisis that the presiding bishop is alluding to is occurring NOW and will only intensify. How long will 'the church' have to wait for those very dark and troubled economic times to transpire ?

The IRS - they are as crooked if not more. Cracking the Code the Fascinating Truth About Taxation In America This is where the truth and lies separate

Via 1031 exchange

Ger what a shock considering what the biggest "church" in Las Vegas is!

@@ts5272 “churches” buy in every state in the country and avoid taxes every day. Ask any land broker that regularly researches the ownership of land in their area.

@@TheBrokerLife Yes, it's been happening in the Midwest for a long time

2 of pentacles. Juggling assets. Buy secular property to cash in on speculation , use profits to build more religious properties. 100 billion for a Mormon space station? Synthetic celestial kingdom?

Since it's a Church, I don't think it has to be transparent to the government. It is transparent to the members.

The leadership of the Church is accountable only to he whom the church is named after -- Jesus Christ. We pay tithing because it is a commandment (see Malachi 3:8-9) a commandment with a blessing and promise (verses 10-12). The leadership of the church follows guidance given by Christ in the parable of the talents (Matthew 25:14-27) that when Christ returns, they will present the "talents" they have been entrusted with, with interest.

@@danleda83 sure, the members pay tithing to be faithful, they're not the ones corrupted. I used to pay full tithing too, for many years. Asking for tithing might not be corrupted either, as long as the donation is used on charity and is transparent. The key is HOW THEY USE THE MONEY, AND IF IT IS TRANSPARENT.

No committing crimes would be sins, plural.... and they never offered any evidence with a reporter saying he claims he claims he claims LOL

Any entity making money should be treating the same. It's always the rich (and therefor powerful) who get the loopholes - whether individual, corporate, non profit, or religious.

Not maybe. Defintely. Churches are some of the most corrupt orginizations in the world and have been for almost 3000 years now

This cult keeps records like nobody's business. Believe me!

@@gms5089 This cult is a money vacuum. It has broken off into sects due to additional perversions of interpretation. This entity should be forced to pay the taxes as all profitable organizations do. Period. Ten percent sounds fair enough. What you think? 😉

And pay taxes. But they don’t because there is no separation of church and state. In Utah Mormon squares run that state. Laws are passed in accordance with their teachings. I moved from Utah because Mormons are whacko, or about half of them are.

Not even a rounding error.

It’s big deal because a church (the LDS assert is the one and only true church) deceived the gov’t. The church should be held to a very high standard because its purportedly God’s only true church, yet it deceived the gov’t making false report on the assets and knowingly did so. The reports were signed off by the 1st presidency as presented by their investment team/lawyers. So I repeat - it IS a BIG DEAL.

Of course. But the the negative PR is far more costly. IMO

That 5 million is a huge deal. It is 5 million coming from family's who are sacrificing and going without food and other life necessities to pay 10% to the church. That is how the church gets its money. They literally tell people to go without in order to pay because God will bless them for doing so. Again, the 5 million is a huge deal.

That sounds like a nice price to pay to do business

Well

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That's part of the LDS Con. It's all a Lie.

Hahaha thanks for that 😂

Interesting that they are saving the money for a "rainy day", yet no matter what kind of rain comes to the membership, they must always pay tithing with no exceptions.

No kidding! Jesus needs all those money to shop at the mall they built in SLC? First the LDS church needs to pay for janitors instead of using its members to clean church buildings and they can pay for the missionaries out there! Seriously Mormons are super cheap, they learn from its cult leaders!!!

You don't fully understand the church, so your opinion is just your opinion. Your joke is pathetically old and used over and over.

Damn, and they follow the 10 commandments which says to be honest at all times.

Except for when the church was accused their response was they had nothing to hide. It wasn’t until they were found guilty that they got a slap on the wrist. Oh and none of the members care their church lies.

All members of the Church of JCoLDS should google "SEC" and "Ensign Peak Advisors" and get the pdf of the SEC report detailing what the First Presidency of the church did. 9 page pdf you can download. Channel "Mormon Discussions" also has a video of an attorney who walks us through the report. 25:00 in for the Meat of the video.

So what..

@@GPWGP got nothing nice to say try keeping to yourself 👍🏼

I saw her as a little slimy myself. Asking questions she knows no nonprofit should answer and then pushing with more of the same questions.

@@theChaseGroup bruh, that's what this entire story is about... if she took them at their word, then they would still be cheating the system, hiding behind their bs 'faith' and cashing in. after this interview and the SEC investigation they can't hide in the shadow behind their faith based lies.

@@GPWGP It's called good journalism. Very little of that nowadays so it's nice when it happens.

Businesses make a profit which is paid to shareholders. Who profits from church funds?

​@@patrickmcfarland5907 the people running the church and hiding all the wealth?

@@patrickmcfarland5907 The Church Executives, aka preachers/clergy. You thought you asked some gotcha question, Guess again.

@@patrickmcfarland5907 Ensign Peak Advisors divvies it up to the high ranking Church members and skims some off for themselves. I go to this mall several times a week. There are a couple guys there "working" on the same escalator every day. The Church has many ways to covertly get money to the right people.

We should all be churches to me.

I pay tithing I understand it's no longer my money.

@@BrianTerrill. I don’t know if you are LDS but there are two types of donations which I know of: designated and undesignated donations. If you give money specifically to say, the missionary fund, then the donation MUST be used for missionaries because the donor specified or designated to be used for that purpose. If tithing is for specific or designated purposes, that is how it is to be used. In my mind, a donation is an investment in which a donor places trust in the recipient to use for specifically stated purposes. However, it seems if you see tithing as a gift which is very admirable. In my mind however, I expect the recipient to use the money for the intent or purpose they stated.

@suegriggs5384 I am lds, I also know how to read tithing slips, the current one states: "All donations to the Church are free-will offerings and become the Church’s property. In furtherance of its overall mission, the Church may shift donations from any designated use to other uses, at its sole discretion" As flattering as your argument is, a judge would base their decisions on information like that.

@@BrianTerrill based on your comment, then any monies given are gifts and can be used according to the needs of the organization. This is not the case however with every church or non-profit. Thank you for clarifying this point for readers and me.

@suegriggs5384 Oh, I'm sure wvery non-profit has something you should read before making a donation and winning after the fact.

I doubt it, the US even allows some of their presidental and congress candidates to believe their nonsense.

Tax sports also.

the 1%?

100%

This is such a short-sighted opinion. Have you perhaps considered the rights that churches would gain if they were taxed? Such as, being able to host political rallies? Probably not. I do, however, agree that all religions buildings and accounts should be searchable, transparent, etc.

That cute you think the government would actually use those funds to lower the national debt. Th government has no interest in lowering the national debt. All they do is continue to grow it.

Simply stop paying those tithes. I'm sure an increasing percentage of members are doing just that. It's impossible to cover the sun with your thumb.

No, that’s where you are showing you don’t know why members of ALL a Christian faiths pay 10% to their Church. As a Baptist I was taught as a child that this is the amount God has asked back from us. He gives us everything and only expects 10% back to build the kingdom. I can tell you from experience, you won’t miss the 10% no matter what your age or income level.❤

@@RussiaIsARiddle778 I agree that we should give. I do not understand so many rich people with family members sick or struggling, they won’t help. However, they will give “THE CHURCH” millions for a tax break

You can be a Buddhist and go to the temple and they don’t ask for a dime…but as a courtesy, it would be nice for you to drop a donation! They don’t require 10% of your income

@@tobin8354 when I was at the university of Florida the Hare Krishnas used to feed us hot food from their organic garden. My friends and I would meet and eat at the library lawns while they meditated. We would give them our change 💓 honestly so sweet

Agreed.

Id love to get a chance alone with that man. See how long that smirk remains.

I thought of the exact same verse when he said that. “Christian” leaders like that thrive on people not reading and studying the Bible for themselves.

Perhaps consider doing some actual research into the church before making such judgments. If you understood the history of the church and how much effort has been put into trying to destroy it, perhaps you'd come to a somewhat different conclusion.

@@brainstem2023 LOL. There aren't 100 people alive who are better versed in Mormon history than I. Maybe this will teach you some of Mormon history that the church has never taught you: "At the request of a committee of the citizens of Ray County, I make the following statement in relation to the recent movements, plans & intentions of the Mormons in the counties of Caldwell & Daviess. "Shortly after the settlement of the difficulties at De Witt in Carroll County, a call was made up by the Mormons at Far West in Caldwell County for volunteers to go to Daviess County, to disperse the mob as they said. On the day before this Joseph Smith the prophet in which he said that all the Mormons who refused to take up arms, if necessary in difficulties with the citizens, should be shot, or otherwise put to death. And as I was there with my family I thought it most prudent to go, and did go with my wagon, as the driver. "We marched to Adamondeoman and found no troops or mob in Daviess County. Scouting parties frequently went out & brought in intelligence that they had seen from three to five men. We got to Diamon on Tuesday evening, & on the next day a company of about eighty of the Mormons, commanded by a man fictictiously named Captain Fearnot, marched to Gallatin. They returned and said they had run off from Gallatin twenty or thirty men and had taken Gallatin, had taken one prisoner and another had joined the company. I afterwards learned from the Mormons that they had burned Gallatin, and that it was done by the aforesaid company that marched there. The Mormons informed me that they had hauled away all the goods from the store in Gallatin, and deposited them at the Bishop’s storehouses at Adam on diahmon... "The same evening a number of footmen came up from the direction of Millport, laden with property which, I was informed, consisted of beds, clocks & other household furniture. The same night, I think, about three wagons were dispatched for about forty bee gums, and the next day saw several gums where they were splitting them up & taking the honey & burning the gums, in which business of taking out the honey, but few were engaged for fear, as they said, they would be called on as witnesses against them... "During the same time, a company called the fur company was sent out to bring in fat hogs & cattle, calling the hogs “bears” and the cattle “buffaloe.” They brought in at one time seven cattle and at another time, four or five belonging to the people of Daviess... "They have among them a company consisting of all that are considered true Mormons, called the Danites, who have taken an oath to support the heads of the church in all things that they say or do, whether right or wrong. Many, however, of this band are much dissatisfied with this oath as being against moral and religious principles. On Saturday last, I am informed by the Mormons, they had a meeting at Far West at which they appointed a company of twelve, by the name of the destruction company, for the purpose of burning & destroying, and that if the people of Buncombe came to do mischief upon the people of Caldwell & committed depredations on the Mormons, they were to burn Buncombe & if the people of Clay & Ray made any movement against them, this destroying company was to burn Liberty & Richmond. This burning was to be done secretly by going as incendiaries. At the same meeting I was informed they passed a decree that no Mormon dissenter should leave Caldwell County alive, & that such as attempted to do it should be shot down & sent to tell their tale in eternity. In a conversation between Doct. Avard & other Mormons, said Avard proposed to start a pestilence among the gentiles, as he called them, by poisoning their corn, fruit &c and saying it was the work of the Lord. And said Avard advocated lying for the support of their religion, & said it was no harm to lie for the Lord. "The plan of said Smith, the prophet, is to take the State, & he professes to his people to intend taking the U.S. & ultimately the whole world. This is the belief of the Church & my own opinion of the prophet’s plans & intentions." ---Legal affidavit of Thomas B. Marsh, Richmond, Mo., October 24th 1838.

@@brainstem2023 Here's some more info about those pious, peaceful, pacifist 19th century Mormons and their holy prophet Joseph Smith: "When we first went to Daviess [County], I understood the object was to be to drive out the mob, if one should be collected there; but when we got there, WE FOUND NONE. I then learned, the object was, from those who were actively engaged in the matter, to DRIVE OUT ALL THE CITIZENS OF DAVIESS AND GET POSSESSION OF THEIR PROPERTY." (Testimony of John Cleminson, "Senate Document 189.") "The Danites were taught to take from the Gentiles and consecrate to the Church. Nearly every person who testified at the trial against the Mormon leaders made mention of this fact. John Clemenson stated that 'it was frequently observed among the troops at Diahman that the time had come when the riches of the Gentiles should be consecrated to the Saints.' Jeremiah Myers testified that 'the consecrated property...was dealt out to those in need' by Bishop Vinson Knight." (Leland Gentry, "A History of the Latter-Day Saints in Northern Missouri," p. 385-387.) "Danites struck at Gallatin and two other towns, Millport and Grinding Fork. The three onslaughts occurred simultaneously and had a crushing impact on the Missourians who were unaccustomed to Mormon resistance. When Captains Lyman Wight, David W. Patten, and Seymour Brunson rode into Far West at the head of their companies, the sight of wagonloads of plunder was offensive to a number of less aggressively inclined Saints. That night they gathered their families together and abandoned the settlement. Among the defectors were two of Joseph's most trusted followers, Thomas B. Marsh and Orson Hyde, both members of the Council of Twelve Apostles. The two men fled to nearby Richmond and blurted out everything they knew." ("Orrin Porter Rockwell: Man of God, Son of Thunder," Harold Schindler, p. 54.) "The Mormons were two hundred and fifty men by the time they reached Daviess County...The bulk of the forces went out in search of the gentile opposition. They marched through three settlements, including Gallatin, repaying the Missourians in kind, looting and firing stores, homes, and barns, before their anger spent itself.....When they returned with their loot, many of their own people were appalled and frightened. Thomas B. Marsh, Brigham Young's superior as President of the Twelve, let it be known that he did not approve such retaliation, and he left the church." ("Kingdom of the Saints", Ray B. West, p. 86.) "There was much mysterious conversation in camps, as to plundering, and house-burning; so much so, that I had my own notions about it; and, on one occasion, I spoke to Mr. Smith, Jr., in the house, and told him that this course of burning houses and plundering, by the Mormon troops, would ruin us; that it could not be kept hid, and would bring the force of the state upon us; that houses would be searched, and stolen property found. Smith replied to me, in a pretty rough manner, to keep still; that I should say nothing about it; that it would discourage the men...I saw a great deal of plunder and bee-steads brought into camp; and I saw many persons, for many days, taking the honey out of them; I understood this property and plunder were placed into the hands of the bishop at Diahmon....The general teachings of the presidency were, that the kingdom they were setting up was a temporal kingdom...that the time had come when this kingdom was to be set up by forcible means, if necessary. It was taught, that the time had come when the riches of the Gentiles were to be consecrated to the true Israel." (Testimony of George M. Hinkle, "Senate Document 189".) "Smith replied, the time had come when he should resist all law...I heard J. Smith remark, there was a store at Gallatin, and a grocery at Millport; and in the morning after the conversation between Smith and Wight about resisting the law, a plan of operations was agreed on, which was: that Captain Fearnaught, who was present, should take a company of 100 men, or more, and go to Gallatin, and take it that day; to take the goods out of Gallatin, bring them to Diahmon, and burn the store...On the same day, in the evening, I saw both these companies return; the foot company had some plunder..." (Testimony of WW Phelps, "Senate Document 189") "After they had driven us and our families, they commenced a difficulty in Daviess County, adjoining this county, in which they began to rob and burn houses, etc. etc., took honey which they, (the Mormons) call sweet oil, and hogs which they call bear, and cattle which they called buffalo. Thus they would justify themselves by saying, "We are the people of God, and all things are God's; therefore, they are ours." (John Whitmer's "History of the Church") "As the [stolen] property was brought in, there was a general shout of hurrah, and waving of hats, by those in camp. I heard Dimick Huntington, one of the troops, tell in camp that the mob had burned the storehouse in Gallatin, but that the Mormons had hauled off the goods; and, also, that the mob were burning some Mormon houses. I looked at him as though I did not believe it, and he stooped down to me (being on his horse) and whispered to me that it was Captain [Seymour] Brunson who had gone with twenty men to the Grindstone Fork, who was burning those houses. The goods taken in Gallatin were generally understood in camp to have been deposited with the bishop, as consecrated property." (Testimony of Reed Peck, "Senate Document 189").

Because citations should not be based on resources

Take away their ridiculous tax status

This is do hard to hear how people fall gullible to the press, even a show like 60 minutes which I normally really enjoy and appreciate. Many do not understand the full situation, nor see both sides which the media rarely does. Some guy whose purpose we don’t know, other than to find out where the church is keeping a certain amount of money, and who will stand to make millions if not a billion if the church is found culpable and guilty. But we don’t know the whole story yet, so we narrow ourselves to thinking the worst possible motives and outcomes. What do you know about the church and its character of the millions of people who volunteer time and money and effort into a belief system which teaches charity and honesty. Most today think all churches are bad and therefore become overly critical. I have been teaching critical thinking for years in the college system, realizing that it takes an intelligent person to not make rash decisions, but to look carefully at both sides. For instance, should the church be more clear about the amount of money that it’s making? It probably should as I understand it or if it can. Somethings are hard to determine because it changes so much and quickly, just like knowing the sum Apple is making or worth. It changes on a daily basis, but I believe in the character of the church, it’s people and leadership. It is not a ridiculous church, but is full of comforting, hopeful and precious beliefs. I studied many beliefs before I joined this church, What if it is Christ’s church? What would you say then accuse it of dark and nefarious design? I think there’s a reason why the church wasn’t clear about how much money it presently has. It is growing rapidly. Should not government with all its tax base do the same? But, it isn’t. There are many in governments who are absolutely crooked and making tremendously wrong decisions. Our church, the LDS church, is blessed with money flowing because the members do not get paid for the work they do for the church and we do much service work. We spend our lives doing that, so why shouldn’t we be blessed? It is the Lord’s church. The people are not perfect, but its doctrines are, even when doctrines evolve and change upward. Not all things should stay the same. We are here to learn and grow, and to correct ourselves. If the church is committing a wrong doing, it will correct that error.

What if it doesn't? This expose tells that already

@@123basalt stop

They clearly can't care less. Did you know that mormons have to PAY their organization in order to be allowed to go on a mission? Multiply that times the fact that virtually ALL baptised mormons serve a mission at least once in their lives.

I agree 100 percent

The Church had no involvement in The Mountain Meadows Massacre. The Church did not order it or approve of it. It in fact contradicted what Brigham Young himself instructed the members to do, to let the wagon parties cross Utah unmolested, and that is on record. Once revealed, members did not speak about it, being under the threat of being massacred by the federal government. In the end, justice was served, and the leader of the massacre executed.

Yes, there are many imperfect mem and women in the faith, as there are in the world, but show me where it teaches human beings to do evil? And I have seen enough Church councils formed to deal with leaders crossing the line. The Church also has a hotline to deal with abuse and encourages Bishops to report cases of abuse. Can you mention cases of a cover-up? When it cones tonthd Church assets, it is confidential, not secret. Everyone knows the Church has great assets. It is no secret, also seeing, with a bit of investigative work, a person could estimate the amount. And the Bishop is right, proven by the whistle-blower.

​@@llewellRsA sure it did no mo

The worst part is that the LDS people are hard working and very good people, the worst part is the organization

You saw that perfectly smug look too.

He’s actually a wonderful guy. Stop thinking the worst about everyone. Best wishes

@@lovestylefarms2702 The whole world saw it, but life will move on so that's why sad time.

I should say: his conscience made him to whistle blow. The leaders in this religious construct are the crooks.

​@@theoptimist9605 how do you know? Do you know Him personally?

The money that earthlings DONATE was already taxed. Something malfunctioned in your logic, rite? Everyone pays income tax, donating your money to homeless, and they should pay tax? Working a freeway offramp pays over $1000 in tax free cash... angels like you need to make the whole world perfect.

Leftists who promote United States Federal deficit spending gasp at the LDS Church paying cash for EVERYTHING. How dare the Church having cash to pay for expenses AND having a cash reserve. Holy Moses, Batman!

@@uhadme NOPE! That is NOT what happens

@@uhadme These are the same people who would scream "separation of church and state" if a church would endorse a candidate, but are completely ok with government running churches.

You cannot tax god!!!

Not a cult

Well I and millions of others think it is. I have read the book of mormon and been to some of their church services. They are nice people with strange ideas. Just saying. Cheers@@braykers2226

@@harriethunter8910 Ex member here. Yes, it's a Cult.

@@jeffs4483if it was a cult it would have died with Joseph Smith.

@@maxward1660 LDS is a successful Cult. That's about it

That is what they want you to think, because it is an anti-religious propaganda.

Billion Dollar Cult 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️ Poor members got doobed

Have you ever been audited? Are you currently being audited everyday all day?

Start a religion and be tax exempt

@@jonathandevore1112 it was a figure of speech and I think you know that. The Mormon church should not have tax exempt status as they are obviously abusing it as a means to personally enrich themselves. That’s it, nothing more, full stop.

never a wiser word spoken

Yes!

Never trust either ever.

Never trust any person who tells you how to pray or who to pray to. then takes 10 % plus whatever the widows have left at the end. The churches are making billions in all kinds of ways that christians do not even know themselves. Study your masters.

You spoke volumes there ! 👍 👌

Most politically correct statement I've heard in years.

LDS are some the most prolific liars ever.

@@jeffs4483 Once again Jeff my church gave almost $1 billion dollars away. How much did you give?

How Christian of you to try and one up someone like that. My church is richer than you, we’re better! Do you know how sad that sounds? I thought Jesus was about being humble?

@@magesalmanac6424 They are as self righteous as you can get.

I forgot to mention that when one set of missionaries came to my house and I told them about his needs, they never went to visit him, despite the fact he lived three doors down the street. The church is the wolf in sheep's clothing.

@@eryng5690 He died 10 days ago. 😞

Churches and religions are actually known for being major financial law offenders. And that sucks for your neighbor I hope God has mercy on his soul.

I was a member of this church and had a friend with a disabled child who were in desperate need of food, and a set of missionaries told me that the church would only provide any aid to its members. I ended up ordering her and her kid a pizza even though I couldn't really afford it. The church stockpiles food in what they call bishop's storehouses, which are basically like grocery stores with basic necessities, but only for their people apparently. Sounds exactly like what Jesus would do. /s

That's strange that happened to you, because I have seen the church help feed many non members and even donate food to other churches to pass out.

In my opinion, SVB was attempting to restructure their bond portfolio, which involved selling their low-yielding bonds despite the potential loss, and compensating for it by buying higher-interest-rate bonds on the open market.

@@trazzpalmer3199 Only a good FA will be enough to guide you through the current market volatility. I've been speaking with an advisor for a while now, primarily because I don't have the necessary expertise or stamina to handle these recurrent market conditions. The fact that I made over $220K during this downturn proved that there is more to the market than the typical person is aware of. The greatest course of action right now is to have an investing consultant, especially for people who are nearing retirement.

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Right now, I'm literally hanging on by a straw, so your advice couldn't have come at a better time! I'll look her up on the internet and then give her a call.

He is very selfish. His motivation is 30% from the IRS if the Church owes taxes.

Myopic.

Who says anything about fraud? This is nothing but a smear campaign.

@@MM-et8leThe church don’t owe a dime.

@@tevita88 Jesus literally condemned the saducees for hoarding money up in their coffers and commanded his followers to give everything they own to the poor and needy

it is extremely angering, but the freedom of leaving the church is worth all the anger

either that bishop wasn't practically bright for asking a family barely getting by for 50 bucks more.....or it didn't happen that way. After all what kinda of bishop would ask a family living in poverty to pay 50 bucks more instead of trying to get them on the church welfare, but even if he did, it would have been 100% voluntary for you, like any other donations. Guessing that was years ago since temple funds requirements don't seem to be a thing anymore.

Temple fund assessment? There haven’t been “temple fund assessments” in the Church for 40 years. And 40 years ago, the Church was not wealthy.

You blame them but you allowed your kids to suffer to be around those evil vile child molesters, your the one at fault

People always feel like they know everything about a situation that they have no clue about. You have no idea what is coming in the future, and for the Church to make sure that it has enough to weather a financial storm, and not be criticized for it, would be a difficult task to do. You think that people right now are poor, just wait until China calls in their loans to the US. You will see a financial crisis like never before, and the Church could be there when the Sugar Honey Iced Tea hits the fan and help people way more than you know. If the Church was open with their financial assets, what would you feel they should do with it? The Church asks us to build a financial reserve, and they follow that council themselves. If they were open about their assets, people would still not be happy with them and would demand that they use it for something they feel is necessary. Please read Acts 5 and tell me that Jesus is mean for requiring people to give all.

I mean is this really hard to see coming? The guy who founded the church found a gold bible? Of course that church is a scam lol Well, all churches are a scam, but another time and another comment.

Unfortunately, you’re exactly right. Humans absolutely cannot resist the opportunity to “take a little” for themselves.

TUAM.

@@SumTingWong1482 a little ? this is talking a hundred billion ... this is possible the biggest case of fleecing by a religious organisation EVER

So true.

Please google "SEC" and "Ensign Peak Advisors" and find the pdf of the SEC Report detailing the Fraud the First Presidency deliberately concocted to DECEIVE us and the U.S. Govt. 9 pages, well worth the read. Channel "Mormon Discussions" has a video; an attorney walks us through the report.

Yeah, no grey areas for poor American citizens !! 🙄

Grey area's ?The IRS is a corruption platform for government officials.....Just look at the exemptions from investigation let alone the Biden crime family issues. Remember Louis Lerner and the tea party hit jobs by the IRS. They are political hit men and have a one sided policy to take down anyone they want or need too. The IRS is a weapon to be used against the American populace! WAKE UP!

money talks, criminal walks. Those who have money, can pretty much grow it and don't get penalized.

Keep in mind that the GOP wants to defund the IRS.

Yep..he even said the "political risk is so great" and it comes "with real danger" if we investigated them...unbelievable!

mouahahhaaaahahaa !

Pyramid scam

I pay my tithing to God. If it’s misused it’s on their heads. And I pay a LOT more tithing than you fwiw. Doesn’t matter.

@@sfl3217 bragging about how much you pay to get into your own kingdom?😂 Sounds a little bit like a sin to me, ask your bishop if you can pay more to make it go away!🙏

LOL!

Aaanndd if you don't receive your blessings after giving out your money is because you sinned! Or you don't have enough faith😂😂😂😂

Indeed. And if you want to go to your daughter's wedding you have to pay up and PROVE that you paid 10% of your Gross Income!

I bet you were a missionary coming from the United States. In this country, we are so used to having the most for the least cost. It is atrocious we live in the land of plenty, yet, the world's people are destitute. Even in our own country, we have homelessness, lack of this or that. So what do I DO? Help as much as we can.

@@mariewheeler5626 nope

@@mariewheeler5626 So sell all your stuff and give it to the poor. No one is stopping you. Sorry you have to live in such a disgusting (to you) country.

I was raised Catholic by my parents going to church every Sunday Then after 25 years I changed to the Mormon church i was under preasure by a young American Mormon to be bautized, i was not sure but i did as i was scared and vulnerable by what they make me believed, the young Mormons came to visit me at home few times then they prepared the bautized once we fixed a date for bautized the bishop came home and talked about the tithing i gave some amount of money first time according to the percentage they mentioned on the visit then i continued given the tithing often, they make people believe they help if we need support and help, however the help is accordingly with what you give 😅 then i released that they are not what they said they are, they offer trips etc but they ask contributions towards outgoings, nothing is free, I released in the church there are hypocritical people and they live promiscuous lifes also i released that the children from the Mormon families are the ones who are the most benefit to go to good universities in Yuta etc nor the ones who give the tithing which are normally the poor families, I believe these temples are cults, and they get rich and rich and we get poor and poor just working to pay the tithing, now i know that God our father in heaven never ask for money, Jesus Christ is our saver whether or not we go to a church as we only need faith in him, i pray at home and he never fails me How many Mormons have left the religion ? Coz they know is all a lie, thanks to the heroes like this gentleman have the bravery to say the true in public well done God will bless you 🙏🙏💌

salvation is not about works...but the sacrifice of Jesus.

I'm sure he'll be donating his 30% whistle blower payout then

I agree. When someone speaks out about the wrongs of companies, usually they are blackballed. It’s why so many low wage workers want to speak out but don’t. They need the job.

TBH he seems rehearsed and not sincere. IDK

@@budoboy I don’t believe your mad at him and not at the church for committing fraud, lying, deceiving and hoarding billions from the tithe of the poor. You need to adjust your moral compass.

snitch. kinda makes it easier to snitch when they call you whistleblower. same betrayal of trust applies

Amen

I Agee. As a member, I do not believe Heavenly Father is charging a 10% fee to get into Heaven.

@@keepinitreal938 just to help build up his church on earth

@@keepinitreal938 10% fee to get into Heaven? He charges A LOT more than that! He expects you to give EVERYTHING. Many parables teach that everything is required -- beyond just money, too. If you can't handle that and want to settle for less, there are still great rewards and happiness in store for all of His children.

The spiritual aspect is indeed personal. The church aspect is useful for accomplishing big goals that require organization. If someone in your neighborhood needs help, having a group of people who have resources, meet regularly, have networks of trust, are able to do far more good with such organization and resources than individuals alone could do.

Religion is the biggest scam in history.... Every..... Single...... One..... Is a complete scam. Now that the unpopular truth is out, let the rocks fly

The word you want is cult. In a cult, the leaders are presented as perfect and beyond any question or discipline. In a cult, you are encouraged to disassociate from anyone not in the cult and you are *required* to work at bringing more people into the cult. In a cult, you will be told how much you must pay per month or that you have to earn money for the cult or turn over assets to the cult in order to be a member in good standing. Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons are cults: you are punished, shunned or will lose everyone in your life if you try to leave (because like any narcissist, they systematically cut you off from friends, family and even business connections not in the cult). There are Christian churches that have many of the qualities of cults in terms of demanding money be paid, that everyone work for the church in some capacity, that you actively and aggressively proselytize and gain status for bringing in new recruits, that the leaders are portrayed as being paragons of perfection and the ordinary people try to act perfect in order to prove they are 'real Christians' unlike Christians who believe that if you need a savior, it's because you are a sinner. Basically, if a religion was invented in the USA, it's a cult and will have at least some of a cult's stranglehold on members and members' money. If it was created after the Enlightenment, it's at best a derivative of a real religion that does not have total control over members. A religion that does not respect total freedom of conscience and denies free will is in the business of controlling the members and their money. A religion that says you must always follow your conscience, and offers you very reasonable information about how to form and develop a reliable conscience is a religion you can trust. Any group that tells you to suspend your reason, not ask difficult questions or just believe and obey and *cannot* point you to clear philosophical arguments for its beliefs is either a cult or a money-making derivative of a religion. A religion will be founded by God for his glory and the good of the people. A cult will be founded by some guy for his glory, access to women or money or power, and will enrich and empower the leading elite while controlling the minds and consciences and cash of the members and shunning or harming them if they ask questions or leave. There is a huge difference between hearing someone out and saying, you are incorrect, and must not spread errors, and silencing someone and shunning the person and cutting the person off from all contact with friends, family and colleagues. If you are thinking of joining any "religion," the first thing to ask is, "What if you ask me to believe something and it just doesn't make sense to me? If it doesn't satisfy my reason? How do you handle that?" If they do not say, "We will respect your reason and you should not join us unless your reason is satisfied that our teaching makes sense," then go away and don't look back. The only other question you need to ask is: "What about free will and freedom of conscience? If in all sincerity, I cannot in good conscience go along with a teaching of your church, how am I to act?" If in either case the answer is a version of, "Just trust us and believe and come to meetings and join and get involved and eventually you will believe," or "just read our literature and keep praying the doubts to go away and just believe," that's brainwashing. You need them to say something like this: "We have had centuries of great minds pondering the teachings and we can explain them in a way that satisfies your reason. The things we tell you about morality, about how to form your conscience and know right from wrong will also make sense to your reason. However, you will never be pushed or pressured to join by peer pressure or the force of arguments or personality. Only God converts hearts and souls. We will present our beliefs and if they make sense to you, you are free to join or not." If you feel pressure, proselytized, swept up into a group of people who are "too good to be true," then it's a cult. One thing: the less the group members feel free to laugh at themselves and their peculiarities that may look odd to outsiders, the more they are like a cult. If they can't poke fun at themselves, they can't be realistic about themselves and there's mind control going on. The more intense and they are about their beliefs, the more narrowly focused and separate from the rest of life so the 'religion' (not God, but the cult itself) is all, the more you know they've been brainwashed. One other thing: investigate the teachings of the group and then find an example of where a member of the group failed to live up to the ideals or teachings of the group. Ask the representative of the group: "You say you teach A, but your member/leader very publicly did B. How do you explain that?' A cult will tell you that the person must never really have believed, or that it's wrong to judge or look critically, or the person just 'backslid' and we have put that behind us, or that the person was framed or that the media sensationalized it because people outside the church want to destroy us, or that it was all taken care of internally by the cult elite and we don't focus on the bad but the good. In one way or another, they will try to wave it away like a bad smell that they are pretending isn't there. A religion you can trust will freely admit that religion exists for faulted humans, is run by faulted humans who need God to overcome their sins. They will admit that what was done was contrary to the teaching and belief of the religion and they will remind you that you don't judge a belief system or organization by people who *fail* to live up to the ideals, but by the ideals themselves. Of *course* nobody will ever be perfect except God, but you all keep trying. The real question is not, "Why did someone choose to fall short of the teachings and moral standards?' since that's a question for that person's conscience. The real question is "Are the beliefs and moral standards taught by this group *accessible and acceptable to human reason,* so the member who failed to follow them was truly free to choose between principles that make perfect sense, and selfish gain or human weakness?' If the teachings are reasonable and the moral code can be defended in a way that makes sense, then the religion is not at fault for people who choose not to do the reasonable thing as taught by the religion. But if the group just says, "Believe even if it doesn't make sense and we can't explain it reasonably" or "Obey the moral code because we say so or we say God says so, arbitrarily,' then the surprise is only that you can get anybody to jettison their reason and free will and slavishly obey such a cult leadership. Are the teachings and moral code *reasonable* and clearly achieved by many, very publicly and obviously, even to outsiders, for centuries? Can any person with normal reason see they make sense? Does the moral code apply to every human being? Is it achievable (examples can be found) by men and women, rich and poor, educated and uneducated, in every culture, of any age or background or social status because it's grounded in a realistic view of human nature? (It's not clearly very American or suited to just one culture or people who are clever or rich or materially comfortable or uneducated or lonely or one race, or very young, etc?) If yes, then the failure to live up to a reasonable moral code is in the individual, not in the religion that the person failed to follow. But you know it's a cult or phoney Christian group if they demand obedience and belief divorced from reason or divorced from the reality about human nature, and then can't cope with the reality that people fall short. Cults present the leaders as 'ideal', without fault. Religion can prove that the *teachings* are ideal and without fault, and that God alone is without sin.

​@@FigaroHey Well said, next time please use paragraph spacing. That was brutal to follow.

@@FigaroHey Scientology.

Nothing like writing a book to share an opinion. Sounds like something a cultist would do.

Nehemiah 10: 37-38 “And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage. And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house.” Tithing has always been a commandment. It takes money to run a church.

@@jasonschlierman412 The new testament is supposed to supersede the old.

@@jasonschlierman412 - Ongoing expenditures and assets are two entirely different things.

No.... I think a great litigation strategy would be to see the extremes that they will go to collect that 10%. Let's say that 30% of the members stop paying. Now they need to document the exact actions of the tithing collection branch of this organization. There could be 50% who pay, and then stop paying, and then start paying and then stop, for let's say four months. And then the other half, stop paying indefinitely. What you are building is a documented legal case against this organization. But there must be a preplanned course of action. And again, each and every reaction must be documented. And then, class action lawsuits. Collusion: Secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

If only Mormons would pick up the Bible every once in awhile like the Christians they claim to be.

You left one cult to join another.

@@whitemailprivilege2830 Then you don't know Mormonism.

On many many levels

That's why it's a church on EVERY street corner, big business.

Absolutely. That's where corruption begins

It goes to the drug trade probably. Then they can get saved by the church.

​@@user-tj7jo5zl6b and Jesus HATES IT

end stage capitalism

Right? My little family of 3 tried to buy a house and a real estate company ended up buying it before us because they paid cash and they just ended renting it out….. wtf is right.

1% GREED and it's a world-wide problem that gets worse by the minute.

​@@MushookieMan no, taxes state burocracy , the state is the evil

Exactly. Take away their tax exempt status!

The PR black eye is a much more significant consequence than the fine.

@@birdlyword2 I hope so. LDS is a business, and not an honest one.

@@Kimberly-rc8fv it’s a good question. Fundamentalist Mormons are also known to abuse women and children . Should they be protected by “freedom of religion”?

They're the only church helping the members though and no collection plates every 5 minutes.

Imagine if the homeless could sleep in churches

God forbid!

I don't think people know this but if anybody is struggling with housing, food, etc. Go talk to your local LDS church bishop. They will help you. Doesn't matter if you are a member or not.

@@sirij8784 They are often first on disaster scenes to provide aid.

And the homeless. ✌🏼

to me money is a tool and my money belongs to God anyhow because he gives us the power to gain wealth.......💪

I agree They use Church to still money from people

@@massextractor2513 Money is mammon and if you are rich in this world you are rick in satans kingdom. This is why rich people can't enter because they were more concerned with the world. What our Father gives is long life and prosperity and the abundance of the Earth.

​@@massextractor2513 Everything belongs to God even the money. All God does is want us to learn management. What we don't manage , we lose. God trusts those who can manage and are unshakable by the world.

@@J_a_s_o_n definitely going though the process…..

Nothing quite shows the character of a Man (or group) Understand that PERSON is a genderless CORPORAT fiction - and a DEAD entity The Person - Created in the 15th Century to conduct commerce -= im-PERSON-ates the living soul 'Man' The word Person was 'INSERTED' into the English language - Now it is difficult for indoctrinated brain-damaged people not to use it - as it has become so pervasive. Learn to use the word Man. There are TWO kinds of Man - Man and WoMan (incorrectly pronounced as Woman - Collectively they are known as ' Mankind ' Now you have been educated better,

Exactly

They all appear to be quite healthy too, so, what have the Mormons been feeding the rest of us.

Their actions like $1 billion to humanitarian work last year alone? Says everything I need to know.

Right. Watch the 2023 world report

yes....all churchs...and that grinning idiot defended this crap should be behind bars......

They should have to pay taxes on every last penny of it that is not used for true charity.

They need to have a limit on tax for their expenses too. All the Latter Day Saint clergy make at least $200,000 now, plus almost all living expenses (vehicle, food, housing, health, travel) covered on top of the salary. You don’t need more than $60-70k to live very comfortably in Salt Lake City.

@@jamesricks You don't live in Utah do you? Because if I didn't make what I do, and were only making $60-70K, I would be living in a van down by the disgusting Jordan River. Maybe someone who is very frugal could do it. But this place has become very expensive in the last few years. Especially with all the Californians buying up housing. The median home price in SLC is ~$537K. You couldn't qualify for a home loan if you only made $60-70K year. Add in Cost of food, fuel, vehicle, taxes, etc. Yeah, your math does not add up.

Amen 🙏 😮 !

Bishops and Presiding Bishops are way different. Ordinary bishops don't know what's going on.

Why do they owe that to anyone though? The IRS audits the church and finds the funds are being used appropriately. It would be like me asking for your last three years of bank statements to prove you're an honest person. You don't owe me bank statements or audits, why ask that of someone else?

@@patrickmcfarland5907Because good churches have transparency. Churches masquerading as cults do not. This should be a huge red flag, if you were a thinking person, which I take it you're not.

It’s a fake religion anyway.

If the Bishops are honest? And wolverines make great house pets! Dude all churches are dishonest! The mega churches the TV churches all of them. Snake oil salesmen

This is not a secret.

He could have said he didn’t know the difference rather than embarrass himself. I have worked at a job where documents were labelled confidential. It means someone trust to keep an information safe. But secret meant on no account should it be shared except to the appointed persons or authorities. This church made profit and secretly hid monies from IRS. Until the government start taxing the churches, this will continue.

@@ememedem6476, why would he be embarrassed? Those contributions are confidential from the moment a member hands them over in a sealed envelope until they are used. It's private. You aren't interested in people knowing all your finances. He doesn't mean Top Secret. He means the contributions and the members who make them are respected by the church.

Slimy Bishop.

Where is God in all of this? Jesus? Humanitarian work? This sounds like a business to me.

Hey now, just because Joseph Smith used the same rock in a hat to "translate" the Book of Mormon (the same rock he used for treasure digging to scam folks out of money), doesn't mean he did it all for the money... he also had like 35 wives, so sex was part of it too.

That’s the ticket - For sure. Damn these religious fruit cakes. Wonder why people would believe in conspiracies? Huh? Really- -REALLY???

True but our leaders are no Joel Osteen 😅

@@James-ts6jr They are worse.

@@jeffs4483 who’s worse?

All that sacrifice so they could buy billions in Pepsi and Microsoft stocks. Then do inside trading with it😂

No one is forced to pay tithing. If you did it out of a feeling of guilt, you missed the whole point.

It is certainly required to be considered worthy and indeed no temple recommend is granted unless you do. However how one interprets this requirement is up to the individual I suppose and I respect your defense of something you believe in.@@SongMom8

@@SongMom8 Give us break. We all know how religion emotionally indoctrinates and manipulates people.

@@SongMom8 what is the point of tithing to crooks?

Brave enough to report it... And get 30% of the payout

Which the Roman Catholic church is transparent with our money

Not only churches, but stated non-profit organizations such as the NFL.

​@@nisamsnjesko wouldn't that be nice 😂🎉

Why you have to looks somebody else pockets.. brave!? He will get 30% that’s all what he wants ..

Corruption is everywhere.

Greed and being able to hoard unconscionable wealth, and the system that facilitates these things happening is the problem. The every once in the blue moon David Nielsen won’t remotely solve this.

His intentions are pure but he even says he doesn't have all the information which is why he most likely he's not going to win his case. He only has a part of the information. Plus im sure the 30% whistleblower reward encouraged him to report.

There are no "pure" intentions when there are rewards worth millions just for blowing your whistle.

Every church needs to forego their tax exempt status. It is voluntary. Show us the amount spent on charity and get tax relief only for that.

What a bread sandwich of a comment.

There's a difference between a church and a cult.

What a Mark sandwich of a comment.

​@@TheRealBlueValhalla Mark thought we rang for bologna. 🤣

@@TheRealBlueValhalla Can’t even come up with dissenting opinion, just blah, blah, whiny boy…🤣🤣🤣

Indeed. The tax free status is granted for the purpose of allowing the grantee the means to spend the otherwise tax expense for the benefit of the public. Clearly, if this is not upheld tax free status should be revoked - even retroactively if applicable by law!!

The government needs to keep its nose out of the financial business of any church. Members voluntarily donate to the church & Mormons verifiably take care of their members when needs arise. Can the government who wants you to be upset with the LDS church make that claim or do they literally confiscate from everyone whatever they want - whether you like it, approve of it or not….we all know the answer. The US govt. should worry about their filthy, corrupt leadership, protected political class “elected” & appointed both - before they start picking on churches finances. This could become a disturbing trend - watch. And it won’t go well for the govt if they continue pulling this nonsense.

They're ALL doing it, Goodwill, Salvation Army. Even Girl Scout of America. Having employees use their parents' vehicle, gas, time to sell products, cookies, & not getting paid for it, while the GSoA CEO gets a 6 figures salary.

Really? Catholic Church makes this look like lunch money. CJCLDS is not the Red Cross, never promised to be.

Yup, they already admitted their fault and paid any fines. But stay tuned because there is always a whistle-blower attempting to make money from rewards every year.

Could you hear the hurt in his voice throughout the entire interview? It's almost enough to make one cry.

the us military in a nutshell as well

I totally agree, although one has to wonder why he got into his career to begin with… Trying to make rich people richer working on Wall Street isn’t exactly what I think of when I think of a pious religious person LOL.

❤ happy for you

They don't care.

So that means this is true?

Sounds like u had a very weak testimony.

​@@aidankeller1717sounds like you have a fragility problem

I have a similar story. It's already raining on people and they simply do not care.

Please don't tithe any more. You need to take care of yourself and your family first, and then use any extra money leftover to donate to truly transparent charities, not shady churches that masquerade as charities with secret finances.

Sounds like you were taken advantage of. Id never step in a church again.

Sounds like you’ve been scammed by the church.

And sadly, it's yellow rain.....if you get my drift. Don't give a dime more. You do not need the church .God is everywhere. Pray anywhere you like, a park, on the beach , a river bank, the forest or even in your home. God hears you anywhere.

Yes, because secularists do it so much better.😂😃

You mean as it has been done since the dawn of man?

@@DemonBrandon yes we do. No hiding behind some hocus pocus, don’t look behind the curtain, space god.

@@jeffhsu7027 Yes, you yourself are a god. You have no need for any other.

The mormon religion and the mormon church are a cult...

He answered accurately. What are you talking about?

He literally couldn’t give her a direct, honest answer cause the truth is so damming

Should put the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme over the silence LOL.

Exactly, ALL religious organizations need to lose their tax exemptions.

Very much agreed

​@@appleaccounts2524They created 13 shell companies to break the law.. Research it more if you think they didn't do anything wrong. I'm a member and am very disappointed.

Agreed!! Audit them!!

Most members give 10 percent and many churches use that money to run homeless services, charities, and other ministries so the government relies on church services.

start with our government first because that affects us directly compared to what this church is doing or not doing, that has no affect on me or you unless we are members and have given

Politicians and their families as well. We know there are some games being played there.

@@MrRedsi The government expenditures are fully public and audited. Unlike the church, which can hide all its finances from the public, the people they take money from. Learn the difference.