MSI Titan 18 HX vs. Asus ROG Strix Scar 18 2024 - Mini-LED madness!
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День томуWhat can you get for about 10.000 $?
Well, for today, how about two of the fastest 18" Mini-LED notebooks you can get in 2024?
We are testing and directly comparing the refreshed Asus ROG Strix Scar 18 with the all-new MSI Titan 18HX.
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Our Asus ROG Strix Scar 18 review unit comes with Intel's i9-14900HX, Nvidia's RTX 4090, 32 GB DDR5-5600 RAM, and a 2TB SSD; the MSI Titan 18 HX is equipped with Intel's i9-14900HX, Nvidia's RTX 4090, 128 GB DDR5-5600 RAM, and a 2x2TB SSD.
Time Stamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:55 - Overview, Specs
1:35 - Chassis, Ports, Wifi, Webcam, Maintenance
5:08 - Keyboard, Touchpad
6:04 - Display
7:20 - CPU - Performance, System Performance
8:56 - GPU - Performance/Gaming - Benchmarks
9:52 - Sponsorspot
11:27 - Fan Noise/Noise + Speaker Samples
13:12 - Battery Runtimes
13:31 - Summary
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@blackpythondranzer 2 місяці тому
Brilliant review, any links for the scar's wallpaper?
@indianajonze 2 місяці тому
i think the scar 18 looks absolutely gorgeous myself
@jakeenvelopes9561 20 днів тому
Yeah. I think this presentation suffers from the start from the reviewers personal biases. He clearly prefers the MSI long before he has got into any tests. Having said so it did make me realise I walked in to the review with my own personal biases and preferred the Asus but emerged from it realising that if you want the best it probably is the MSi and the MSi is probably better value even though it is more expensive. It's hard to ignore better gaming performance, more RAM, a better keyboard and a larger SSD. Seems like when it comes to silly mistakes though the MSi suffers from a less than excellent mouse pad, all for the sake of LED lighting which the reviewer says looks less professional.
@rbalabekyan1286 2 місяці тому
Thanks for review guys.
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Sure thing!
@chrisbenn 2 місяці тому
What about the new Scar 16?! Super nice video! :-)
@EtherealTrader 2 місяці тому
I've been patiently waiting to see what rumoured 7945hx3d 18 inchers will be like and also the 2024 razer blade 18. Losing hope with razer as it will probably be limited due to thermals again and the amd variants are taking ages for any info.
@nasdaq15 2 місяці тому
120hz is a deal breaker since I only play FPS games, therefore going with Asus. You should review the 2024 Helios 18 when it comes out!
@theamateur683 Місяць тому
Hey Notebookcheck! I have a request. I would really appreciate it if you guys could compare the new Alienware M18 R2 (RTX 4090 version) with the ASUS Scar 18 2024 (RTX 4090 version). And this comparison between these two juggernauts was great as well but if you can, please include thermal performance as well next time. Also, it is not clear if you're using the most powerful performance profile of each respective laptop (in the ASUS's case atleast, it is said to be the "manual" mode with all the sliders set to max).
@kennetha6594 2 місяці тому
Your reviews are wonderful, but you need to consider changing your performance graphs design. They are complicated to understand without pausing the video. Keep up the good work!
@Illmatic662 2 місяці тому
It's an absolute shame that companies like Alienware have turned a blind eye to Mini LED and/or OLED. We really need these displays to take us to the next gen!
@tomoblasz2028 Місяць тому
I bought new scar 18 2024 4090 laptop in UK for £3300 and must say I will never get another IPS not mini led panel laptop. Screen black level and quality is just great especially in HDR mode is just perfect black level for me
@jakeenvelopes9561 Місяць тому
"I bought new scar 18 2024 4090 laptop in UK for £3300" Where?
@user-jo2ik1us2n Місяць тому
also interested. can I have the address? 😁
@williamtoetoe59 Місяць тому
I'd like to know where you got it too.
@Chrille349 Місяць тому
Does Asus no longer have a backpack? There was one last year. The 18-inch notebook fits in there perfectly.
@Yoloslides 2 місяці тому
I would've loved to see the new Alienware M18 included in this. The three are the last I've come down to and can't decide!
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
The review for the M18 was not quite ready at the time of filming this one. But we just got a sample for the 2024 M18, so it will get a seperate video soon!
@RockyBalboaxxx 2 місяці тому
Hey dude. Have you tested 1600p on the Titan. How does it look, compared to native 1600p on the Scar 18? I'm considering The legion 9I, but it is unfortunately only 16' And i'm also looking at both the MSI Titan 18 HX and the Scar 18 2024 version, so this video was great 😍😍 The laptop i want must be very bright and have miniled so the I7 is not an option 😊😊
@Jalalaburas1979 Місяць тому
I have the Titan 18hx , 1600p looks amazing on it . Lowering the resolution doesn’t look bad at all as long as the aspect ratio is correct . And it’s an amazing labtop returned the legion 9i decked out for the favor of the Titan !!
@DaTaRaZoR Місяць тому
Great review, it does cover all the aspects I was hoping for, just grabbed my MSI Titan. I do personally believe its a beast of a laptop, way better built and what it lacks here and there, it can certainly make up for through the manual configs. Moreover, I believe its "more" future proof due to its built. I am not a big fan of plastic tbh, I 've had a laptop like that asus rog. Wobbly screens, hinges not completely tight, heat tends to stress those plastics especially at the points it connects w/ the screen, therefore, broken hinge and a ton of other problems, heat is an issue on all laptops, and plastic doesnt respond well, cycle after cycle of hot-cold, imho. That mat plastic attracts a shit ton of fingerprints, dust and it doesnt clean easily either if you 're fingers are sweaty / oily after spending a ton of hrs for work / gaming on it, its a mother load of pain.
@NotebookcheckReviews Місяць тому
Awesome, congrats to your Titan! May I ask how you use it?
@jronin9341 12 днів тому
How's the light bleed on the IPS Mini Led screens?
@vapourmile 2 дні тому
The one thing I don't understand is how he writes-off the webcam on the Scar but, to me, the image from the Scar looks far better.
@Redeemed_Team Місяць тому
I just bought a ge78hx raider. It feels like a tank compared to my last cheaper laptop.
@boxheadsaga 2 місяці тому
Nice review. I have a question though, you mentioned that the scar 18 supports 32gb of ram but it’s mentioned on Asus website that it can support up to 64gb of ram. Can you confirm this? Also what’s the speed? 5200 or 5600?
@nadershalabi6241 2 місяці тому
Yes, it comes in two variants 64/4 and 32/2
@jhairalveiroestupinanmejia7034 16 днів тому
admite hasta 196Gb de Ram por su procesador i9 14900hx que las soporta. Aunque cuenta solo con dos slots de ram y ya por defecto tiene 32Gb ram DDR5 5600Mhz soldadas al chasis. Asi que de por si puedes ampliar hasta 96Gb de ram 5600, tomando en cuenta que las rams hasta el momento tienen una máxima de 64Gb si mal no estoy, 32 soldadas + 64Gb ram = 96GB. en mi opinion mas que suficientes para abrir infinidad de cosas. Y ademas el pc viene con una variante de 64GB ram y 4TB SSD de ultiam generación. pero esta version es bastante mas costosa
@rickystafford7433 2 місяці тому
pricing is INSANE on the MSI. it makes the Razer Blade 16 with OLED look cheap. There’s a model of the Asus on sale for $2200 with 4080 but no mini-LED at best buy. If you want one of these, that’s the way to go imo.
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Definitely, even tho it does come with a few things that makes it unique (if still niche) The main appeal for those is the Mini-LED, though, and I assume it drives the price considerably. If you do not want the panel tech, there are many, much more affordable options out there!
@circasurvive9891 2 місяці тому
There's been an ACER 4080 WITH Mini LED for the longest but at 2500 instead of 2200.. so $300 more to upgrade the 18" screen from IPS. This dumbass model "PH18-71-94F1" was originally priced at 2200 but magically "Out Of Stock" the entire time of its release until around December 15 when it arrived at my local BestBuy with the "promo price" already taken off.. We already need to fork over an extra $800 just to have a GPU that's ACTUALLY next gen AND can actually play AAA titles at ~60 FPS natively soooo this extra $300 hurdle from the ASUS ROG Strix 18" 4080 w/ 🇮🇵🇸 "G814JZ-G18.I94080" all the way to the ACER Predator Helios 18" 4080 w/ 🇲🇮🇳🇮 🇱🇪🇩 "PH18-71-94F1" is absolutely ✨️RIDICULOUS🎉
@barcafan94 2 місяці тому
Here in Spain the MSI costs less than the Blade 16 OLED and has twice the RAM.
@Yoloslides Місяць тому
I'm curious about the 120hz display on the Titan. I've seen some comments saying "For this price it should be 240hz." Is there something I'm missing? Why wouldn't they go that route especially if the last model was a 144hz mini-LED display?
@NotebookcheckReviews Місяць тому
You have to understand that manufacturers are dependent on what is available from display suppliers. Even a company like MSI can probably not ask somebody to make a 4k 18" 240 Hz Mini-LED display for us.
@Yoloslides 5 днів тому
@@NotebookcheckReviews wasn't so much talking about a 4k 18" 240hz display, i meant the benefits of their 4k 120hz vs the 240hz. I play fighting games and shooters mostly but i really wanted the TItan. Ended up getting a Rog Scar because I couldn't find any detailed reviews on how their display would've fared for those types of games. I know for adventure-style and RPG games it'd look amazing, though.
@EduardoSanchez-un2hh 2 місяці тому
Desktop replacements should have the connectors behind like the MSI as they spend most of the time on the desk. Asus hasn't received the memo.
@barcafan94 2 місяці тому
I tried both. MSI is the better laptop both on paper and on hand. 4K 120hz miniLED, Gen 5 SSD compatibility, mechanical keyboard, full metal build, very comfortable trackpad and insane performance while also being quiet when doing work that doesn't require too much power (browsing, YT videos, Word document processing etc). The Scar has a lower resolution screen, membrane keyboard, the main body is plastic and the camera is only 720p (WTF Asus lol) but here it costs 600EUR less (same specs apart from 32GB RAM instead of 64GB on Titan). The only advantage of the Scar over the Titan is G-Sync, I don't understand why MSI didn't bother to put it on their top end display. However the problem is that most buyers of the Titan will probably use it at home only as a desktop replacement, so if you have the money for the Titan (4800EUR in Spain) you can build PC with 7950X3D/14900K and 4090 for around 4500EUR and spend the rest on a good 4K OLED display. If you replace 4090 with 4080 Super, you can build a setup with a 4K 240hz OLED monitor for just 200EUR more than the Titan which will be far better. This is the biggest problem with gaming laptops over 2000-2500EUR, if you have the money for a top end gaming laptop you can almost always use it to build a PC instead. I was considering the Titan for my studies but I bought ROG Flow X16 with 4070 and bought a used setup with desktop 4080 and 49" ultrawide monitor for 2500EUR, so I basically have a top end desktop setup for gaming and a great laptop for university + portable gaming for the same price as the top end Titan.
@RockyBalboaxxx 2 місяці тому
Hey dude. I want a laptop at my girlfriends house and one I can take to work. I already have an insane desktop with a I7 13000 cpu and a 4090 😊 Have you testet 1600p on the Titan. How does it look, compared to native 1600p. Can you share your experience on that 😊 I will play in 4k, when the laptop can handle it, but some games, I would like to play at 1600p in the future
@MA-xb2yz 2 місяці тому
How's the x16 working out for you? I've been thinking of getting it for drawing.
@moecharms 2 місяці тому
I have the MSI Titan 18 and you're right about it being better but I can assure you my friend. Us that spends 5k on a laptop. We are not the people who need to choose between a high end desktop or laptop. We typically can afford both easily. No disrespect or nothing I'm just saying. This laptop isn't for people that think 5k is a lot of money.
@barcafan94 2 місяці тому
@@RockyBalboaxxx Downscaled always looks worse than native unfortunately, I didn't try 1600p but I did try 1200p and it didn't look as good as native 1200p so I assume it will be the same. However this laptop can easily run most games at 4K (2400p) so you will have no problems there
@barcafan94 2 місяці тому
@@MA-xb2yz It's a good laptop, the screen is beautiful (only on the 4070 model though), the touchscreen works well with a stylus and it performs great as well. For the price it's the best foldable you can buy
@care_lezz Місяць тому
I totally love the new Scar18 ❤ can't recommend it enough, for high performance gaming / work with mobility
@jowelnath5 2 місяці тому
Can you compare the acer predator helios 18 2024 against the asus rog strix scar 18 2024. I want to buy one. If you could tell me which one will be overall better then it will be helpful
@beardeddragon9255 Місяць тому
Idk if you've made a purchase yet but be aware that the Predator Helios is infamous for their thermal problems.
@lucal7756 21 день тому
What a bargain! You can buy the 2023 models + 1200€ external 21:9 screen and save also some money. High-end laptop gaming pricing in EU is definitely out of control LOL
@EyesOfByes 2 місяці тому
We need the 16 core 3DVCache cpu in those. For gaming
@AgastyaXV 2 місяці тому
i hope amd gets x3d cpus along with actual igpu cores which can handle daily usage, and hopefully beat intel even in singlecore by increasing the performance, because amd 7945 has worse batterylife than even intel, so they can afford to suck more power in the absolute high end chips
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
The 7945 HX3D is an awesome chip, too bad we do not see it in more devices.
@lsp6032 2 місяці тому
back in ces, msi hinted a 7945hx3d titan, but Asus only have ryzen hx in scar 17 and zephyrus duo 16
@techstation365 2 місяці тому
@@AgastyaXVIt's not an iGPU issue.. it's uncore power draw due to chiplet architecture and seperate always active I/O die.
@AgastyaXV 2 місяці тому
@@techstation365 well the 7945 just has 2 graphics cores, so the laptop has to rely on the dgpu for graphics rendering. If amd raises clockspeeds, gives it more power limit, and increases gpu cores from 2 to 12, it would be perfect. Basically matching the i914900hx single core (its already faster on the multicore, and getting more igpu cores so its better on battery to)
@HitEmUpru 2 місяці тому
Dear Notebookcheckreviews, what i choose? Lenovo Legion Pro 5 vs Asus ROG Strix G18 (all 2024 versions) I want most quit laptop
@user-wn6yv9cu1p Місяць тому
Rog
@motorhead20 7 днів тому
I got the scar 18 2024 (rtx 4080) a week ago. I upgraded from a gtx 760 desktop so its just a beautiful and godly laptop to me. Also, the asus rog bp4701 fits the scar 18 perfectly so a pretty cheap backpack for that size!
@NotebookcheckReviews 7 днів тому
Congrats, thanks for the info about the backpack, I'll check it out!
@javadizadi3282 26 днів тому
I cannot understand the infinite contrast you reported for titan. It doesn't make sense for a miniled panel to have oled quality. By the way could you please compare scar 16 and zephyrus g16 displays?
@vapourmile 2 дні тому
The better mousepad and screen is a swinger for the Scar. It's annoying that the MSI seems to check every box except those two, because they are important. I use the mousepad and screen for most of what I do.
@lifeguardkz 2 місяці тому
I have both, the biggest problem with titan for me is 4k screen, it's overkill for a laptop especially for games. Some aaa titles are below 60fps. Not very future proof and when comparing side by side you can't even tell the difference. Also everyone forgets about Dolby vision support on scar Hell, cyberpunk 40 fps, hopefully they'll come up with 2k panel that's either miniled or oled
@infinitetesla9202 Місяць тому
You can lower the resolution in in-game settings to 2K. Though other than that is there anything you find in each better than the other?
@lifeguardkz Місяць тому
@@infinitetesla9202 lowering resolution will look terrible as it is no longer native for the panel, also there is weird flicker to msi especially in hdr mode. Msi would've been easy choice if it had asus panel
@LetMeCookDota Місяць тому
Hello if money is not an issue which one would you choose the MSI or the ROG?
@lifeguardkz Місяць тому
@@LetMeCookDota rog, all day
@LetMeCookDota Місяць тому
@@lifeguardkz thank you. I wanted the MSI since the reviews says it's better built but most of them day the performance is better with the Rog. Do you mind elaborating the reason for you to go with rog. 😬
@Ben-un8bu 2 місяці тому
What’s a decent content creator laptop mid range price for 2024. Mainly photo editing for astrophotography
@Freshone48 Місяць тому
Asus zenbook 16x pro, good luck finding one though cause of scalpers
@walidheraz3309 2 місяці тому
Does the MSI TITAN's screen support NVIDIA G-SYNC ?
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Unfortunately it does not!
@walidheraz3309 2 місяці тому
@@NotebookcheckReviewsclear winner for the rog strix 18 then
@moecharms 2 місяці тому
@@walidheraz3309Absolute not the clear winner..I had both for a week and a half. You knew the titan didn't have g sync. MSI never has and never will. Asus laptop gets unbelievably hot, plastic build, worst screen, lower fps, lower bench scores, worse keyboard, worse speakers, lower brightness, etc. I kept the titan. You probably can't even afford to test both yet you speak with no real world exp. Pathetic.
@Unicornpirate 2 місяці тому
@@moecharms How do you know it gets hot? From every review I've seen it runs below 80c when gaming. Also how is it a worse screen? It's higher refresh rate, has G-sync, Advanced Optimus, and a MUX switch. At 18 inches you aren't going to notice the difference between 4k and 1600p. The things the MSI has over Asus is the port layout, one extra slot for storage, and ram configurations.
@EmaryTegan 2 місяці тому
looooooooooool the webcam quality is crazy.
@applepulse 2 місяці тому
Plz review macbook air 15 m3 Thank you
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
We should get one soon!
@Usama-Tanoli 2 місяці тому
i don't know why these big machines don't provide good speakers and webcams
@PeterDavid980 2 місяці тому
Is titan have gsync/free sync bcz while gaming there is some scarring/terring issue
@Unicornpirate 2 місяці тому
The MSI doesn't have G-sync. The Asus has G-sync, Advanced Optimus and a MUX switch.
@MoxHex 18 днів тому
I own the HX 18 and love it. It's a beefy laptop, sure, but it has all the I/O I need, and it's not as hard to pack as you'd think.
@NotebookcheckReviews 18 днів тому
I enjoyed it a lot as well! What backpack are you using? Mine have all been too small :D
@MoxHex 2 дні тому
@@NotebookcheckReviews I use a SOC backpack with a neoprene sleeve for extra protection.
@nadershalabi6241 2 місяці тому
I bought recently the scar 18, by the way it comes in two variants, 32GB/2TB and 64GB/4TB. I wanted the Titan, however, the decision was mainly because of support, which is where am living, MSI is not good, while Asus have a support centre in the city
@scorchingstarbhaskar7011 Місяць тому
How is it working?
@nadershalabi6241 Місяць тому
@scorchingstarbhaskar7011 amazing, but if anyone says it's mobile, don't believe it, it's a heavy one, needs good cooling pad, and it's a full desktop replacement indeed
@scorchingstarbhaskar7011 Місяць тому
@@nadershalabi6241 oh mobility is not an issue at all. I only need performance :) Thank you for the help🙏🏼
@Unicornpirate 2 місяці тому
The MSI doesn't have G-sync. The Asus has G-sync, Advanced Optimus and a MUX switch.
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Very true!
@PaulKupker 2 дні тому
Dude its so frustrating no laptop can fully win me. I need machanical switches a good cooling but also the sound from a g 16 and its microphone. But the g16 hase neiter a good wifi card mechanical switches nor a numpad.
@--B-u-n-n-y-- 24 дні тому
Scar 18/16 looks and performs absolutely best in my option
@IsaacG8 26 днів тому
Um, the Scar 17 AMD 7945 is outperforming both of these in several test, it seems.
@Jalalaburas1979 Місяць тому
Love an honest review !! Everyone crying about the scar 18 is just crap , I bought all 4 labtops last month , scar 18 2024 , blade 16 oled , legion 9i , all don’t even come close to the titan . I’m sorry if 5k is out of your budget then don’t be saying anything that you don’t know . I love this channel and he was honest . Msi fyi don’t pay reviewers to review their product because they know what their titan is . As far as asus , quality garbage control and don’t forget it’s all made of plastic . Great review man keep it up !!
@scorchingstarbhaskar7011 Місяць тому
Is Scar 18 good or no?
@MTFORESTER 27 днів тому
I plan on getting the somewhat new Alienware M18 R2 laptop with a 4090, I9 14th gen 1900 HX INTEL Processor, 64gb of ram, an RTX mobile 4090 with 16 GB of graphical memory and with a mouse, mousepad and the computer it'll be almost 4k. Should I get it? I've read conflicting opinions some people say that Alienware is terrible other than their laptops which are supposedly decent, others say everything they make is garbage and to get a Razer or ASUS but the ASUS from what I've found doesn't have the same amount of RAM as the Alienware
@milky_reacts 21 годину тому
Better be asus
@MTFORESTER 15 годин тому
@@milky_reacts really? I've heard ASUS has terrible build quality and overall quality control
@milky_reacts 12 годин тому
@@MTFORESTER i've never experienced that, maybe some of the lower lineup, but if it about the higher lineup like rog or zenbook the quality is so good
@MTFORESTER 11 годин тому
@milky_reacts @milky_reacts well I have no idea . Not really a huge tech person that's just what I heard the ASUS and Razer aren't the best and from the people I had asked most seemed to have said I should stick with the Alienware M18 R2 with the RTX 4090 16 GB, INTEL 14TH GEN 14900HX , 64 GB of GDDR4 RAM and a 4TB SSD. with that plus fast shipping, a gaming mouse and a gaming keyboard it'll be like 5k
@milky_reacts 11 годин тому
@@MTFORESTER well, it depends on you at the end, but alienware is good too, so if you find better price go for it
@septiawanrizky1013 Місяць тому
I prefer Scar 18. There are several point so I choose Scar 18. I know, Titan actually cheaper than Scar 18.
@SignoredellecripteLv.6 13 днів тому
Titan literally takes everything even the keyboard that was the strong point of Scar
@kennysponto6568 Місяць тому
Nice Titans! I’m having a fever dream!
@NotebookcheckReviews Місяць тому
:D
@doudoucover 2 місяці тому
I think the new alienware m18 r2 gonna be a good contestant
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Definitly, even tho it lacks severely in the screen department!
@doudoucover 2 місяці тому
@@NotebookcheckReviews Thants a shame because the only ones 18 inches who have a good performance/price are asus scar 18 and alienware m18.. hope to see the review to choose
@barcafan94 2 місяці тому
If Dell used the 4K 120hz screen that they absolutely could use, yes, but it would still be behind in performance compared to these 2 laptops.
@Unicornpirate 2 місяці тому
Dell will fall behind in terms of cooling. They still use a flipped motherboard layout in the M18 R2
@fmulleady Місяць тому
The Cane Corso 'puppies' of gaming laptops! 🤣
@GamerPro400-gi1dz 11 днів тому
If completing my shows counted they are.
@GamerPro400-gi1dz 11 днів тому
Technology is oled Screens and more.
@Freshone48 2 місяці тому
I agree the Strix series needs a redesign, I’m tired of the gamery look
@DaClaymore 2 місяці тому
let’s be real here: anything less than an oled for prices above the 2500 mark is no longer up to date. Oleds simply do not cost that much in terms of production any more and the fact that we as customers are still paying extra for them is just due to marketing.
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Lots of people prefer Mini-LEDs, its a matter of personal preference. And afaik there is simply no one offering an 18" OLED panel for now ...
@Valmed87 2 місяці тому
I would NOT get an oled. As Alex said, some people prefer mini-LED. For me, the most important is the brightness. And as far as I know there is no laptop oled with 600-800 nits.
@Unicornpirate 2 місяці тому
Asus considers its mini LED's high end. That's why you see it on their Strix and Strix Scar lineup aka their highest end models
@iLegionaire3755 12 днів тому
They’re both great laptops especially the Titan 18 HX it’s legendary. 192 GB of portable DDR5 is INSANE BEAST mode for a laptop! Yet the 2024 Razer Blade 18 is far better, 98 GB DDR5,Thunderbolt 5 (easily drives 3 4K displays, or two 8K displays at 60 HZ at the same time!) better battery life, same performance, same 14900HX as the MSI Titan 18 HX and the ROG STRIX SCAR 18 and the Razer Blade 18 has a 200 Hz 4K OLED/ or selectable 1440p 300 HZ display!
@crshoveride 7 днів тому
All of these laptops have about the same performance in 4k resolutions. In 1080p the strix scar 18 and especially 17 with the ryzen 3d chip is gapping the intel chips. Razer blade laptops are reglarly the worst performing laptops every year though so that's not really true. They also are notorious for having thermal throttling problems due to the aluminum chasis while also having poor air intake compared to the competition. Asus laptops run the coolest of all of them, but they're purely gaming laptops. The msi titan and razer blades are more a medium for content creation and gaming.
@TeffySam 2 місяці тому
I don't understand these companies... people end up shelling out 5 to 6 THOUSAND dollars/euros and they have some bullshitg potato webcam on these? Like what the hell is wrong with Asus and MSI here? At these price points this is completely unacceptasble. There is no excuse too
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Agreed!
@MarcAnthony_ 2 місяці тому
Can you believe it? ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 17 (2023) RTX 4090 7945HX is still the King of the gaming laptops ...
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
I disagree; yes, when it comes to performance, it is a few percentage points faster, but good luck finding it anywhere, and it's using a plastic chassis from a few years ago. Performance is not everything ;)
@RockyBalboaxxx 2 місяці тому
@@NotebookcheckReviews And the screen on the SCAR 17 is not as good either 😊😊
@Mr_KPs 2 місяці тому
I want to know which is the best gaming laptop@@NotebookcheckReviews
@crshoveride 7 днів тому
At 1080p games yes because 1080p games are cpu bound. When you get to qhd/1440p/2k it's pretty much the same. In 4k it's all the same because the higher resolution you go the more gpu bound you become.
@TechGuyB 2 місяці тому
Both laptops are overpriced for different reasons. Teardowns of the Scar 18 show that it could be significantly improved not only in build quality, but with a bigger battery, better speakers and perhaps 4 RAM slots. The Titan at $1,500 more should have better speakers, a much better webcam, and provide a flawless experience. Let's hope as Intel improves efficiency, we'll see more laptops like the Zephyrus G16 but with great gaming performance.
@Alexandru1996_ Місяць тому
I got a zephyrus g16 and i do like the build quality alot. The thing they can improve is the keybord. An 18 inch laptop should be even nicer.
@crshoveride 7 днів тому
I still don't understand why they even started putting webcams in these laptops. I guess because people were complaining. Completely unnecessary. You can get a logitech webcam that has infinitely better quality for pretty cheap. Just taking up screen space for no reason. Objectively speaking most people do not use their webcams. Bigger battery? it's already essentially at the legal limit for what is allowed on planes. 99.99 is the closest you can get because you legally cannot have 100wh batteries in a laptop. That's just a dumb argument honestly. I will admit to the better speakers, but beyond that the titan is pretty appropriately priced, but more of a problem of poor marketing. The titan is as close to a medium between a content creation and gaming laptop as you can get. It's basically an 18 inch macbook pro with a 4090. When you consider how expensive getting the same specs from both pc and mac would be the titan is pretty appropriately priced if not cheaper.
@Scoobied77 2 місяці тому
No G-sync on the MSI is a HUGE fail!
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Unfortunately that is true!
@user-wy5ch2xc8z 19 днів тому
Both seemed flawed, I rather get an m18 r2 maybe a legion 9i or even an g16 from asus.
@GamerPro400-gi1dz 11 днів тому
Your also a big dude.
@TrusteftTech 2 місяці тому
It looks like the ROG cools the CPU way better.
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Do not forget that the MSI runs the i9 with much higher power levels!
@TrusteftTech 2 місяці тому
@@NotebookcheckReviews Good point. Though with temps approaching 100C, I am not sure how long it will go where you need the extra performance, before it throttles down. Perhaps not during gaming, but for anything that will keep pushing that CPU...plus this is a brand new laptop with brand new thermal paste (or whatever they use) and no dust or other debris in the fans etc. It doesn't look good in the long run. To me anyway.
@ahmadforouzandeh6085 Місяць тому
MSI is a monster🔥
@NotebookcheckReviews Місяць тому
Very much so!
@camilstoenescu 2 місяці тому
What can you get for about $10.000? A good sh car.
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Very true!
@SyedHabiib 2 місяці тому
I can buy 2 asus rog strix 16 with titan
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
I think you can make that comparison with a lot of different notebooks! ;)
@SyedHabiib 2 місяці тому
@@NotebookcheckReviews i recommend scar 16/18 for their display. May be i buy the 18 varient, but confused between alienware and asus
@simonefiorini8298 2 місяці тому
Asus with plastic chassis...? 👎
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
That is my biggest gripe with the Strix Line-Up. They are awesome machines, but the chassis ... :/ The Alienware is much better made, but seriously lacks in the screen department, compared to the Scars with their Mini-LEDs ... Have you seen our M18 review? ukposts.info/have/v-deo/q5qnfH2feWphmoE.html
@simonefiorini8298 2 місяці тому
@@NotebookcheckReviews I love Alienware but this gen have a poor nits monitor. The m18 chassis is better than a new Titan?
@keerthan7558 2 місяці тому
Edit : Okay i get it , there seems to be quite a few use cases for these huge laptops, was interesting to ready eachother's perspectives. who's buying these giants lol ? I can't imagine carrying anything bigger than 16" as a portable workstation. Not to mention they don't even get the basic essentials of a laptop right.
@AgastyaXV 2 місяці тому
desktop replacement category fr. Many people want the absolote max performance while being portable, batery=UPS for them. I got a 17.3'' rn, i would love to get the 18 because i like bigger laptops. I dont really travel much with it, but it would be interesting to see it in the future how things play out. +in future i got plans of getting a ultrabook+ a desktop if things work but yeah
@johnnydoe3603 2 місяці тому
You Think People are Buying these Workstation Laptops to take them to the College or Office ? 🤣🤣
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
I would agree, I like the form factor a lot too. Not for regular travel, but to have a portable rig at home, that I can easily use in every room.
@homiedogg6415 2 місяці тому
I love giant laptops
@doudoucover 2 місяці тому
Me! I am a gaming player but i work traveling! I don't have a place to have a desktop so never judge. Every person live their life very different from others. And every gamer wants a big screen. doesnt matter if is not good to travel
@ridalger16 Місяць тому
Seems to me the best laptop to acquire is the Scar 17 thanks to AMD. Am I wrong?
@NotebookcheckReviews Місяць тому
If you solely look at CPU performance, then yes. But good luck getting one, and you will get the same not quite up-to-snuff chassis and general build quality "issues" as with the scar 18
@ridalger16 Місяць тому
@@NotebookcheckReviews I see. Thank you. What's the best laptop to go for in the 17/18" in 2024 please
@stevesutton772 2 місяці тому
Next Laptop inovation: No batteries by 2030! Too much Hardware, too little lithium.
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
So its an All-in-one desktop?
@tomgjonaj9965 Місяць тому
Titan 18 hands down. The scar 18 looks extremely cheap. I can’t go without that cherryMX keyboard as well. I tried both out and definitely keeping the Titan 18.
@NotebookcheckReviews Місяць тому
I also really enjoyed the TITAN its just so over the top and ridiculous, but in a very practical way ... if that makes sense ;) May I ask what you use it for?
@tomgjonaj9965 Місяць тому
@@NotebookcheckReviews mainly for gaming, a little for work. I love gaming laptops (first gaming laptop was the Alienware M9700, back when Alienware was a shop in Florida), but most today are built cheap. I love large DTR laptops, and miss the days of the GT80 Titan, Alienware 51m, etc. The titan 18 is the only large 18 inch Laptop with amazing build quality and performance right now. Plus I have too much disposable income and don’t mind the outrageous price. The scar looks like a late 90s early 2000s toy with that clear plastic, lol.
@sgz647 2 місяці тому
Its just pathetic that even after paying 4k on top end gaming laptop by asus you have to deal with ugly plasticky bits, flimsy build quality, 720p potato webcams and poor port selection. A few extra mm thickness or few gram extra weight doesn't matter to people who are buying 18 inch laptops, but they will keep listening to their MBA bro consultants who have never used anything other than a Macbook in their lives. And did they really kill the RGB light bar to just add those neon blue plastic stripes on Titan? They should just make it have a clean look if the 'gaming aesthetic' is too scary for them suddenly. Just focus on the actual consumerbase instead to trying to woo starbucks hippies, there are plenty of generic plain laptops out there.
@riazulrahil 2 місяці тому
MSI Titan looks drop dead gorgeous. ROG 18? cheap and ugly.
@Captain_Alkami 5 днів тому
Spent the whole video shit talking Asus. Why even include them?
@NotebookcheckReviews 5 днів тому
😅 I do not think I was shit talking anything ...
@moecharms 2 місяці тому
Asus shouldn't be compared to the MSI. Its marginally worse and not even the same league. Even with the same specs it performs worse in cooling, gaming, benchmarks WITH THE SAME SPECS. Only thing this year that will be able to compare to MSI is the Razer 18. Should've just reviewed the MSI by itself and yes i have it.
@NotebookcheckReviews 2 місяці тому
Everything you said will probably hold true for the Razer as well. It will be slower, and the screen will not be a Mini-LED, etc. And if you do not care about the comparison, you still get all the info about the MSI or the ROG, do you not? ;) How do you like the MSI? May I ask what you do with it?
@moecharms Місяць тому
@@NotebookcheckReviews Well I heard razor is upping tdp and a new cooling process so I guess we will find out. This may sound ridiculous to you but I am a stock investor. I mainly use it along side a tablet to invest. I love media consumption on it. I play games like Minecraft on it mostly but also played cyberpunk so sometimes I'll play a triple a game if it seems cool but very rare. I do plan to invent stuff so I definitely will be using this or whichever the newest one in the future is for 3d rendering ideas I have for invention as well. Overkill? Probably so, but everyone financial situations are different so for me and my situation this isn't considered a big purchase for me. I love it. I may don't put it to it's full use but I wanted a 18 inch mini led laptop with a mechanical keyboard that could do it all if I ever do need it to. Oh and it's also a tax write off for me lol. Since 100 percent of my work is done on it and I believe the minimum is 50 percent
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