After foreman no one has a better second career than Ali

I wouldn't call that Ali weaker than Ali in his prime around 65-67. But he was more experienced, though visibly slower with hand and foot he still had good speed and a lot more ring experience

@umarb7325 ...Ali was never in his prime.

​@@brucescott4261You're right. He was exiled at 25 years old. Never had a prime

The narrator is delusional, liston did not throw the fight and because we know the FBI is so credible right? My assessment and conclusion would be that the narrator is was a big Sonny Liston fan and a conspiracy theorist

❤exactly well said and well REASONED.

His convictions were visionary. He disliked going to kill people who never did ANYTHING to deserved death.

❤agreed 100%

AND MINE TOO!!! THE US ARMY dishonored him for a lost war in Vietnam. Look now, all communist and happy people.

It's sad, he was still improving. He had pretty much cleaned out the division anyway but we would have seen the Frazier fight sooner and I think Ali would have won it instead of losing like he did.

Well, that is the truth.

​@@GloveWarriors ...That first Ali-Frazier fight was extremely close. Smokin' Joe did not win unanimously! I saw the fight first hand. Frazier was hospitalized for approximately six weeks afterwards.

100%

"Ali was more than a fast boxer with great IQ" You mean great boxing-IQ. In terms of pure intellect he was under 85.

Exactly

Ali was the greatest of his era. Not sure how he would do against a Mike Tyson in HIS prime or a Joe Louis. We’ll never know.

​@@TravisMcGee151mike tyson would be toast after the 5th round in a fight with Ali...he would have to find Ali 1st...n he always had trouble with big fighters with long strong jabs that can fight on they back foot...

@009incher Ali's IQ was very low. And it got lower because he got hit too much.

Absolutely right

Think about this, Ali was ready to give it all up, the money, the title, the fame, for what he believed. HE WAS ONLY 25 YEARS OLD!!! He was always fighting for more than most of us realized. And came out victorious even when he stacked the odds against himself.

@@kcash6359 Anything to keep from his duty.

Fraizer Career record (all fights): 32-4 (not too impressive) Career record real heavyweight fights 200×2 lbs: 13-4 Career record real superheavyweight fights 215×2 lbs: 1-2 Frazier fought 20x against bums: KO'ratio 90% Frazier fought 17x against non-bums (that's very good): KO'ratio 52% and of these 17 ALL were natural cruisers except 2 ( Buster Mathis (win) and Foreman (2x loss) Frazier outweighed his opponents in 21 fights: KO'Ratio 95% (he KO'ed all of them but 1) Frazier was outweighed in 15 fights: KO'ratio 46% (featherfist) Median weight of Frazier's KO'victim: 197 lbs (cruiser) Frazier boxed 9 times against natural heavies (that's good) He scored 4 KOs (featherfist) of which 3 were against bums ·Don Smith (11-7) ·Ron Stander (37-21) ·Mel Turnbow (8-13) and 1 KO (round 11) was against a non-bum ·Buster Mathis (30-4, 61% KO'ratio), a very fat boxer. No wonder Frazier could KO him in the 11th round: It was the first time that Buster went more than 10 rounds and already the previous 10-rounder of Buster was merely a split decision against bum ·Bob Stallings (31-32, 201 lbs). Frazier never fought some of the better boxers of his time like Mac Foster, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton, etc Joe Frazier KO'ed 14 opponents within 3 rounds (that's pretty good, considering he had only 37 fights). But it turns out that ALL of them were bums (median career record of these bums 11-23) except for 2 opponents: ·Bob Foster 188 lbs (= cruiser) and ·Dave Zyglewycz 190 lbs (= cruiser) whom tiny Frazier (hold your hat) out-weighed, out-reached and out-talled. Dave Zyglewycz has been called "the worst guy to ever get a title shot" and once you check his wins (ONLY bums, median record 10-16) you will have to agree.

@@joetrie Sometimes styles make fights. Every time he fought Ali it was competitive and he beat him once. All I'm saying is he was tough, and he attacked Ali's body in a way that would've wilted most fighters I think. Sick shots man go back and watch the first one plus he was motivated. He really didn't like Ali.

Thanks sir. Wonderful production. More please

ALLAH u AKBAR

He fought his own Gov't and won...?. What planet are from?. His title was stripped.

His title was stripped because he fought his own government, not just his title but his boxing licence and passport to try and stop him from earning a living.He fought them through the courts, leading to the supreme court where he won his case.@@someoneelse.2252

​@@someoneelse.2252 Then he proved to the world that the war mongering government at the time were wrong so they gave him back his license and won the title 2 times more to become the greatest champion in history in many eras.

@Ahmed-mr4xo ... "Ali fought all over the world against boxers in their own back yards" Canada, England and Germany doesn't qualify as all over the world. And Ali fought 5th rate bums like Brian London, who didn't have the ghost of a prayer. Heavyweight Champion Oleksandr Usyk of Ukraine, fought world title fights in Russia, Latvia, USA, Canada, Germany, Poland, and England versus the top fighters in the world from those countries. His country is the most war-torn in the world, so it may be years before he fights there again, if ever. Ali was in tragic decline at Usyk's age. The Ukrainian is a veteran of 371 amateur and professional fights.

Other men gave their lives.

for what?

@@cabura-X To fulfill their duty.

@@cabura-X Many Ali fans are so enamored with him that they carry things too far. I understand, I was the same way as a kid. At 68 naturally I think differently. I have nothing against Ali but like all of us, he was a flawed human being. His fans won't hear of it, they borderline worship him, which is a sin. The issue I have regarding the military suspension relates to life at the time. If you weren't alive then maybe it doesn't 'feel' the same to you. My brother was in Viet Nam, I almost had to go. We all knew guys who didn't return or returned badly injured. Many still suffer today from physical/psychological damage. At the time we didn't know that the war was based on evil greed. We believed that an individual was an unpatriotic coward if they wouldn't go. Poor people had no option, they all went including poor blacks. 'Famous' people went, many well-known star athletes had their careers interrupted by war, but they went. I'm not sure how I feel today about his claim of religious exemption. All Christians could have claimed the same thing, the 5th commandment says, 'Thou shall not kill'. Based upon that it seems Christians could have objected, but I don't know anyone who did. The bottom line was, if you were poor, middle class or upper middle class, you went. If you were patriotic, you went. Ali is the only one that I know of that claimed religious exemption, although I know there were others. Many left the country, went to Canada to 'hide'. When soldiers are routinely dying in war and someone refuses to go, it's understandable that most would consider them to be cowardly. I heard a lot of people say that Ali didn't mind fighting and hurting people for money in the ring, so his excuse seemed shallow to them. I don't know his heart, but that's how it was at the time.

@@MrMarco855 to who?

Tyson , Holyfield.

​@@bellavia5😂

@@bellavia5NO, just NO

Ahahaha

@@Only1Kizz yes, just yes.

All people are flawed, that goes without saying.

No 😂😂😂

His legs were strong and gave him a solid foundation to deliver combinations. Nolan Ryan taught deliver r a pitch up from your feet through your legs..just the way Ali punched

Well said and well REASONED

How many have you seen? I've been watching since 1963...

In the lower weightclasses you have seen guys with very high skill levels like Ali. Just not in the heavyweight division like that. Ali moved like a middleweight or even a welterweight in his prime.

@mrkipling2201 ...Ali was never in his prime.

​@@beatlejim64 ...Really?

That was David Frost on the call for the UK broadcast. I think "colonel" Bob Sheridan's call on the KO was the most hair raising and exciting call ever.

Alexandr Karelin enters chat.

Foreman had a monster punch but wasn’t exactly the most skilled boxer.

Better than Jim Thorpe?...Bill Russell?...Jim Brown?...Don't think so...

In fact, the commentator said "this is the most JOYOUS moment in boxing history" when Ali ko'd Foreman.

Ali cooper 2 66 prime nobody floors him in his prime

The myth that Ali was unhittable is garbage. He never learned how to box....@@active.7universal

But you just stop there, ie that Ali was vulnerable to a left hook. But, what were the fights taken in their entity? They showed Ali's dominance and class which were way above the others.

@mmcniel777 ... Ali was never knocked out from those left hooks, PERIOD!!!

Some are trying to be boxing pundits without really knowing anything about boxing. Have you heard any boxing critic, sports-caster or boxer claiming that Ali was vulnerable to left hooks. This guy is inventing his own analysis of boxing without any reasoning.

IMHO, Ali should have retired after the Frazier fight in Manila in late 1975. He had nothing else to prove - he really *WAS* The Greatest. The Manila fight damaged him (he said that those 14 rounds were the nearest to dying he'd been) & as a result he lost his speed. Thereafter he started taking heavy punches which he'd have skipped away from in his earlier years. To see him in his later years was sad & depressing. You can call it what you want but Ali suffered mightily from the effects of those heavy hits 1976 ~ 1980 & his health and wellbeing were seriously damaged.

The US government took away his prime years. It's disgraceful what they did to Ali. They also made Joe Louis destitute after he had given many purses of his towards the war effort and Joe had to come back way past his prime and get destroyed by the beast Marciano.

Smokin Joe did...............

​@milwaukeegregg He had the help of a US congress that banned the guy for 3 years. Hardly in his prime any longer. Say, who's your favorite to win the Stanley cup 🏒 ? I know you know this. Isn't Tiger Woods a phenomenal golfer⛳️

​@@milwaukeegreggAli prime mid 60's--66 vs cooper joe Frazier wouldn't have Landed half those hooks on Ali that he did in 71 .. joe would get boxed up like Tetris

He deserved to be banned... I have no pity for this draft dodger........@@EinsteinKnowedIt

Sure...lol@@active.7universal

Ali & Cooper became great friends, Sli visiting the Coopers at their home and having meals with them when he came to UK. Henry in turn visited Ali in the US & they both greatly appreciated & respected each other.

Totally. I would love to know what really happened.

@@GloveWarriors There was a camera directly above Ali and Liston. It shows Liston's head jarred as Ali hit him. It was a solid punch. Liston did some acting after that, but he was hit and he fell -- a flash knockdown. The camera angle from ringside didn't catch it. As far as a fix is concerned -- I don't see why it would have been fixed in Ali's favor. Liston was the one with underworld connections. It's hard to know, 60 years later, what race relations consisted of at that time. I remember the atmosphere very well. Until the Civil Rights Movement began, black athletes were respectful of white society. Now, Ali's comments are amusing to one and all, but then, white people scowled in disapproval. Ali didn't "know his place" -- he didn't play the game. With the "long, hot summers" underway, and the Nation of Islam arousing fear and hatred in white people, Ali was seen as an "uppity n*****." Even a lot of black people were disapproving. They saw Ali as someone who would bring down the wrath of white authority on all African-Americans. Really, all Ali was doing was talking to his opponents the way black guys talk to each other -- "playing the dozens," they used to call it. But it wasn't something you did in front of white people. Ali didn't care. I just don't see how all this could have led to a fix that guaranteed Ali the win and not Liston.

So what? He is the same man.💪💪💪

His name is Muhammad Ali

You are spot on. Never seen anyone like him before and very unlikely in the future too.

@DavidPatersonPortraits ...Sick seconds? Knock it off!!!

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