Muskegon Michigan's Mass UFO Sightings 30 Years Later | Talking Strange

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A mass UFO sighting took place in Muskegon Michigan 30 years ago, and the mystery remains. This episode we talk to a key witness of the event.
On March 8, 1994, more than 300 people across 42 counties of Michigan - and as far away as 200 Miles - saw strange lights above Lake Michigan for a period of several hours. Along with police officers, documented 911 calls, FAA operators, and other reliable witnesses, Jack Bushong of the National Weather Service was manning the radar, and tracking this strange phenomena. Bushong joins Talking Strange to discuss this occurrence, and is joined by Bill Konkolesky, state director of the Michigan Mutual UFO Network.
About the guests:
Jack Bushong grew up in Muskegon, Michigan, and knew from an early age that he wanted to be a meteorologist, having always been interested in the weather, astronomy, and science. He received a bachelor’s degree in Meteorology from Florida State University in 1988 and was 29 years old when he was working at the National Weather Service in Muskegon on the night of a dramatic UFO event he tracked on radar. Shortly after the event, he moved to Georgia and became a hydro-meteorologist. He retired in 2016, after an illustrious career with numerous awards and promotions, and now wants to share what happened on the night of March, 8, 1994.
Bill Konkolesky has been State Director of the Michigan Chapter of the Mutual UFO Network since 2004. He joined in the organization in 1993 after reporting some of his personal UFO encounters and now, along with his MUFON responsibilities, also does frequent public presentations on the phenomenon and has contributed to numerous UFO related books and television productions. He’s also the author of Experiencer: Raised in Two Worlds, and returns to the Talking Strange show for a second time.
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@louisshepard7903
@louisshepard7903 Місяць тому
i was a eye witness that day i was driving home on sherman blvd going west on the over pass us 31 right by mercy hospital stopped at the stop light what i saw was a sphere. it was huge it had multiple different smaller spheres of different colors rotating counter clock wise around the big one i look at the car next to me to see if they were seeing what i was seeing by the time i look back there was two of them the new one was moving under the original one they were both identical. At the time back in 1994 you couldn't talk about it not even with my family so glad to share my story now and thanks for the video .
@dwightbrown7777
@dwightbrown7777 Місяць тому
Thank you for sharing. My stepdad saw it
@anthonyarmstrong7313
@anthonyarmstrong7313 Місяць тому
Amazing experience? Any smells or odors out of sorts?
@johnhacsi178
@johnhacsi178 Місяць тому
Did you take any pictures did you have a cell phone at all back then
@Bill-yo6kw
@Bill-yo6kw Місяць тому
🙋
@boomhawk6217
@boomhawk6217 Місяць тому
@@johnhacsi178no cell phones in 1994
@ShoeShingShong
@ShoeShingShong Місяць тому
A year prior to this, 1/31/93, I saw a ufo in Dodge County, Wisconsin. I was one of a number of people, including sheriffs, who saw it. On 3/09/94, I was watching the noon news and they reported the Michigan sightings and mentioned the objects had been observed on radar. Because of my experience the year before, I was fled to the tv. At 5pm, they did not talk about it. So I called the news station (channel 12 I think) and asked why they didn’t follow up since they had reported it at noon. After excusing herself from the phone a few minutes, the woman who’d answered the phone came back and said they didn’t talk about it at 5pm was bc it wasn’t newsworthy. Really? What is more newsworthy than potential interplanetary, interdimensional, or time travelers???? I never fully trusted govt or news sources again - and it kicked off my interest in ufos that will last as long as I do.
@SMG_PROD
@SMG_PROD Місяць тому
I live in Michigan. I’ve been seeing them since i was a child. A few years back i filmed two metallic spheres just stationary in the sky. When i slowed down the footage, there was 4 of them going so fast i would have never seen them.
@user-qp4wq5jz9z
@user-qp4wq5jz9z Місяць тому
Thank you for this, I was 9 years old living in cannonsburg Michigan. Nobody would believe me.. I feel vindicated, I sent this to everyone who I told my experience to in the past
@alexsandrarokas7117
@alexsandrarokas7117 Місяць тому
Yep, read my experience. I saw it!
@nickdotson21
@nickdotson21 Місяць тому
Jack’s recall of the event is incredible! Great episode!
@Vanilla_Cucchi
@Vanilla_Cucchi Місяць тому
Hello from Lake Huron, I feel really bad for jack. I saw a show he was on and people were telling him he’s crazy. When so many people saw exactly what he saw that same evening.
@Vanilla_Cucchi
@Vanilla_Cucchi Місяць тому
I believe it..
@CrystalHunter
@CrystalHunter Місяць тому
I saw it that day when I was 10. My dad noticed it and called us all outside to look. We looked at it with binoculars and saw what we thought was the triangle shoot out and bring in smaller crafts but I guess they were separating and coming together. I'm from White Cloud. My little brother lost his first tooth that day and came in to find money under his pillow so he thought it was related for the longest time lol
@leonardhollerbach9806
@leonardhollerbach9806 Місяць тому
If you read my story I think they might be the same thing. A triangular ship with 4 lights underneath it changing colors. If that ship turns this way or that the lights will move about like little ships around a big one. I believe it’s just the lights which do not move on their own but move around crazy like when the ship itself moves
@Firstthunder
@Firstthunder Місяць тому
I live a short 88 miles from Muskegon in the Lake MI coast and have never heard of this incident. Thank you!
@thomasmatthews8873
@thomasmatthews8873 27 днів тому
I was in Fayetteville NC at that time and I saw a new report on it. Witnesses including law enforcement who received circuit blowing calla from concerned citizens as far west as Springfield IL. It was no secret.
@shirtexpert
@shirtexpert Місяць тому
Jack is very credible. I have known him since high school. I am proud to call him my friend. MCATDT!
@kathlemi
@kathlemi Місяць тому
I was living in Grand Rapids with my family and we recall seeing strange, strobe type lights in various formations to the west (Lake Michigan).
@sebolink
@sebolink Місяць тому
Im from Michigan, grand haven. I lived in the township then in 94. I, remember when this happened
@bwklinger
@bwklinger Місяць тому
Something weird watching this at work in grand haven at 4 am
@boa1793
@boa1793 Місяць тому
Go outside and look up!
@orgbortondave6539
@orgbortondave6539 Місяць тому
The Great Lakes are massive and very deep. UAP bases ?
@Bill-yo6kw
@Bill-yo6kw Місяць тому
That's been reported at lake Erie also
@user-pd5qz2vt2c
@user-pd5qz2vt2c Місяць тому
No doubt.
@michaelnepa2136
@michaelnepa2136 Місяць тому
There's also South Ridge Military base.
@boa1793
@boa1793 Місяць тому
⁠@@michaelnepa2136, it was probably auto correct, but it’s Selfridge Air National Guard Base.
@kevingodziebiewski2593
@kevingodziebiewski2593 Місяць тому
It’s UFO🙄
@alexsandrarokas7117
@alexsandrarokas7117 Місяць тому
I have to mention this - have to! I’m going on seventy-five and I can remember during the very early 50s I saw what is called a Grey or Gray, whatever, when I was about three years old. I know that sounds weird that I can remember that far back; actually I can remember many things even when I was two. And then again I could have been experiencing night terrors. I SAW A GRAY peering through my bedroom window. I remember screaming. My mother came in the room and slapped me very hard. I buried my head under the covers. The next night it appeared again. I didn’t dare scream. I covered my head with a blanket. Let me give you the location. I lived one block from Chandler Park in Detroit; also we lived in a second floor flat. NOW if a gray can levitate to a second floor window - well then I wasn’t imagining anything. It looked like a young Gray. I don’t like telling people these things about myself for fear of people thinking I’m tetched. What did I see? What was it? To this day I cannot get that out of my mind’s memory.
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
I'm sorry to hear that you were slapped for screaming in shock and fear. Sometimes parents just don't take the time to consider thieir childrens' feelings. You're not alone. And, I believe you!
@user-qp4wq5jz9z
@user-qp4wq5jz9z 27 днів тому
One day the truth shall be revealed and you'll be free from any baggage held from that situation.
@s.o.s.exploration2412
@s.o.s.exploration2412 Місяць тому
36:45. That is the most frustrating situation of that time. You are able to see soooo much more detail than what cameras and those big over the shoulder camcorders were able to pick up. I believe I still have my vhs camcorder from those days.
@spyder8986
@spyder8986 Місяць тому
You know, this was a good podcast.
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
Fantastic interview! Both Bill Konkolesky and Jack Bushong were a real pleasure to listen to and now I have a new case to stay interested in. I hope they continue to push for this case and to keep talking about it. Jack should absolutely present the research he's willing to document and publish. It never ceases to astonish me how much obfuscation and avoidance there is from the 'higher ups' over phenomena that appear to clearly pose great threats to public & military airspace and which, given the Intelligence & technological capacity of government and military, they surely must have an abiding interest in. I agree that the public sphere is a perfectly good source of varieties of disclosure, but, given the degree of threats clearly imposed by phenomena of such vastly superior capabilities, the Pentagon/DOD should have already themselves provided this information. As long as earnest witnesses continue to push forward, and the more exposure through interviews, documentaries, and well-investigated news reports the public sees and demands more of, plus essential pushes from patriotic, insider whistleblowers, the better. Sorry for the run-on sentences but I'm hyped 😆. I'm 46 and had never myself had much interest in the UFO thing until the triumvirate of the 2017 New York Times article, the release of the Tic-Tac, Gofast & Gimble radar recordings, and the testimonies before Congress of Grusch, Graves, & Fravor.
@paulgrunden5401
@paulgrunden5401 Місяць тому
Great informative talk about a case I hadn't been aware of until this anniversary.
@msmisticmom13
@msmisticmom13 Місяць тому
I remember this day very clearly, we were sitting on the porch and we saw what we thought was an airplane or coast guard plane with lights, almost light spot lights searching the area. As it got closer we realized it was much larger than an airplane. The lights seem to separate from the center light and flew off in weird directions and patterns.
@user-qp4wq5jz9z
@user-qp4wq5jz9z Місяць тому
I was 9 years old, living in cannonsburg Michigan. Nobody believed me. I feel extremely vindicated. Thank you
@paulkutsche835
@paulkutsche835 Місяць тому
THIS IS COOL!!! I was a freshman in high school when this happened and remember hearing about it on the news. I live 5 minutes from grand haven now. I'd love to see something like this
@hemlock40
@hemlock40 Місяць тому
The world record helicopter altitude was 42,500 feet, ran out of fuel on the way down and had to perform an autorotation emergency landing. Terrifying.
@kdub11
@kdub11 Місяць тому
I was too young to remember but I grew up in sw mi and our family saw these lights. I remember my dad and his airforce pilot buddy talking about this event for months.
@jsv438
@jsv438 Місяць тому
This was a great interview. Well done, plenty of details, very interesting, and really laid out the story of this event. BTW: 3600 seconds in an hour. So if it went TWENTY miles in one second, that's 3600 X 10 X 2 = YES... 72000 MPH! That's virtually teleportation at that speed. It almost literally doesn't make sense to our known physical ability of travel, ESPECIALLY in an atmosphere. I can't even wrap my brain around how something could travel that fast. It reminds me of other stories--like where the aircraft carrier radar observed several craft hovering (I think) it was about 30,000 feet, and in about 2 seconds were all hovering right above sea level. A friend and I once watched an followed this disc we saw that blew our minds (late 1980's). During the observation it darted across the sky to different locations a couple times, made NO sound, and that thing moved as if it wasn't "travelling", but it was more like it was basically teleporting from spot to spot it moved so fast. Whether you believe Bob Lazar or not, the method of travel he illustrates in his description must be exact or at least very accurate, because there's no other way anything could travel at these speeds especially within the restrictions of an atmosphere. Even our known most advanced spacecraft couldn't accelerate and react and relocate that fast when they're in space. And in an atmosphere, and dealing with the problems of gravity, any living thing on-board would be killed from the acceleration alone unless they really are within their own gravitational filed while making these maneuvers. If a human military power actually did possess and master this technology, it would mean instantaneous ruling of the planet. Period. ~JSV
@cultfighter
@cultfighter Місяць тому
You will never know what's up if you are looking down
@CHUY-DRZ400s
@CHUY-DRZ400s Місяць тому
This is a excellent cast.
@bobsmith8196
@bobsmith8196 Місяць тому
this craft was hovering across from my house on the grand river. it was low altatude and had a blue neon light beaming down .I'm a marine Corp vet and never saw any military aircraft look,move or act like it. it really scared the heck out of me.i sat on the roof of my house at night for a week looking for it again.and saw it again two nights later.
@cassandrawright-mq5kp
@cassandrawright-mq5kp Місяць тому
Enjoyed this intelligent, calm, measured, deeply interesting interview. Love listening to Jack's detailed description from his professionally trained, weatherguy perspective. Absolutely telling the truth. Ten years earlier, not in Michigan, but just down in No. Indiana approx 2 miles from Indiana/ Michigan border was riding in car w/ neighbor's younger sis, for after work burger & shake. Near Midnight going to pick up our order driving on a completely dark, familiar road, winding along the river to the main highway. Trees had grown over the road like a huge archway, late in the year, no leaves on trees. Neighbor suddenly asked, "What is that?" I looked out, ahead, saw nothing, ignored her. She asked, again, "What IS that? I looked ahead again, answering (irritated,) "There's NOTHING out THERE!" Her voice rising, " NOT OUT there! UP THERE!" I leaned forward, bend down and looked up. There it was. I must've gasped. Her voice trembling, "Is that, is that, a...." I kept staring, blinking, feeling my eyes seeing it, but my mind refusing belief, finally saying, "Yeah. That's one of them." It wasn't even hovering, just, like 'sitting' stationary in the air, just above the trees. It was very close, too close! She was panicking, I was stone-cold terrified. Clearly, they saw us, watching us. We knew it. I instructed her, "DON'T go out from under these trees!" Thinking of 'abduction', 'Betty & Barney Hill.' She was screaming for me to drive. I wasn't getting out of the car. It sat up there, was round, metallic silver, w/ pastel colored lights, green, pink, blue w/ an opaque, cream colored light underneath, w/ a clear light rotating along it's edge. It was silent. Got her to stop, pull in a drive, turn around. As we sped back we thought it was gone, till I looked out, saw it above us!! We were both screaming as we screeched onto a main highway. Aliens "showing off, too!" They were gone, next when I looked up as we, blew the stopsign, crossed the bridge. My Mom believed us, hers didn't...next day, it was in the newspapers. It was seen over Goshen, Indiana and the (formerly) Robert M. Young railroad yard security guards--just before us.
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
Whoa! It's hard to imagine what that must've felt like, although you communicate how it felt so well.
@cassandrawright-mq5kp
@cassandrawright-mq5kp Місяць тому
@@beekneed Thanks. There was so much more, for me. I always drove. That night, 'younger sis' neighbor driving her first car. She was always jamming her foot on gas or brake, killing the engine, then it stalled. First we felt shock, disbelief, then rising panic. We had 3 drives to pass before out in the open when I said, "Don't go out from the trees!" She drove past 2 drives. I looked over, saw her frozen in terror. I grabbed her knee, calmly said, "Slowly pull your foot off the gas." She did. Next, told her, calmly, to put her foot on the brake, "Cuz, we're turning in here." She did. She asked if it was, "Still there." I looked over, "Yyyesss!" She started screaming, "YOU DRIVE! I CAN'T!?" We would have to get out to switch, No way! I CALMLY said, "You have to drive, I'll help you." She put her hand on gearshift, I had to put my hand on hers, counting, "Out of Drive, Neutral, Reverse." Talked her SLOWLY back into Drive, slowly give it gas (fearing she'd kill the engine.) We went forward, I jumped in backseat, looking, said it was gone. My utter relief gone as she said, "Look if it's above us!" Back in the front seat, I felt dread again, rolled down window, saw it DIRECTLY OVER US. CHASING US. I said, YES! Told her to head for a 7/11 open, afraid to go home. We sat in the parking lot, 1.5 hours afraid to move, watching the sky, terrified. Not fun.
@boa1793
@boa1793 Місяць тому
@@cassandrawright-mq5kp, You’re a good friend to have.
@cassandrawright-mq5kp
@cassandrawright-mq5kp Місяць тому
@@boa1793 Thanks, but honestly, I think there was a whole lot of self-preservation involved, too. When Jack says he thought the 'aliens were showing off!' I agree! Later, when the fear passed, I remember thinking, 'Smart aleck aliens! They knew we saw them. Her white car, headlights high beams on, highly visible to them at night up there. They clearly saw us stop, turn around and floor it (slowly), in the opposite direction we came from. They KNEW we wanted AWAY from them. Yet they diverted off the course they were travelling (North, North West) to follow us, now travelling West. As Jack says here, when YOU know, THEY know you're observing them...the "creepy feeling," starts, just before the fear of, 'What do they want?' Worse yet, 'What are they going to do?' ✨
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
Phew. I sometimes think people who say they really WANT to see these things haven't fully thought out just how shocking it would be. Maybe, like, wayyy out there streaking around like a little dot...but not right the hell there!
@orgbortondave6539
@orgbortondave6539 Місяць тому
Excellent discussion. Fascinating case as well and the fact that there was a swarm of objects is somewhat disturbing. A swarm is a squadron off an armada.
@MsTasha217
@MsTasha217 Місяць тому
I keep wondering why nobody has picked up on the fact that the beginning of the TicTac video one of the pilots can be heard saying that there is a whole fleet of them… Nobody is talking about it
@mmoebius330
@mmoebius330 Місяць тому
Unsolved Mysteries aired an episode on these MI sightings and it’s fascinating. There’s only one explanation as to what these were and when you factor in all the evidence - whistleblowers and incidents recorded & posted online since if you don’t think NHI is real you may be extra brainwashed & beyond hope.
@jasonfreese2654
@jasonfreese2654 18 днів тому
Which episode?
@finpainter1
@finpainter1 Місяць тому
In the early 70s we saw a line of big lites in a semi circle. Then took off one at a time and disappeared. This was Baraga county Mi.
@waynzwhirled6181
@waynzwhirled6181 Місяць тому
Great show. Thanks. I'm a Muskegon resident but did not see this event.
@UFOUAPFirstContact
@UFOUAPFirstContact Місяць тому
Interesting that my first sighting was in 1969 just north of there, in Frankfort, Michigan on the lake.
@Womble1252
@Womble1252 Місяць тому
Great show and looking fwd to Jack's technical paper on his experience ❤
@kathleenmartin7498
@kathleenmartin7498 Місяць тому
I've lived here in SE MI for over 20 years, and I haven't witnessed activity here, but have friends who have. One lady I know says she has often seen craft entering or exiting a lake near her in the northern part of the mitten. I have witnessed UFO activity while living in other states, so I know something not from our planet is definitely out there.
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
@DenofGeek I know this is a longshot question, but I'm dying to know what color Jack Bushong's room is painted in 😆🎨🍊. Some kind of gorgeous orangey shade that looks so brightly-warm and freshly comforting...I'm forever searching for the perfect orange x
@moquii5892
@moquii5892 Місяць тому
Nice observation I have an orange room. Used to be my daughters br now its my playground. Love it! I call it "orange room".
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
Ha! Yes, it can be really nice if you find the shade that works. I have a friend whose bedroom was straight-up ORANGE in college, it was fun but would be a little too screamy for me now in my old age 😆
@stoex
@stoex Місяць тому
born and raised in Muskegon, live in Grand Haven, and worked in Holland. All had reports the same day and I never heard of this until about a year ago. Im pretty sure its not even common knowledge around here.
@obilesk
@obilesk 21 день тому
Yeah it's weird this is definitely not common knowledge in gh. Lived here 40 years and didn't even hear about it then. This is only the second time ive ever heard anyone talking about it. The first was an *Unsolved Mysteries* [or similar] episode.
@nrrork
@nrrork Місяць тому
Seen everywhere except the corridor between Henry and Getty. Even the aliens know to stay out that part of town at night. 😁
@sherrylandgraf556
@sherrylandgraf556 22 дні тому
This was excellent! Glad this showed up for me. I believe the fellows and have heard and saw prev. videos re: this incident.
@jasonward4457
@jasonward4457 Місяць тому
Fantastic guys, thank you. Jason from New Zealand.
@boa1793
@boa1793 Місяць тому
Jason, What other worldly events happen in New Zealand? Has anyone there ever experienced a Bigfoot sighting?
@andrewsallee3060
@andrewsallee3060 26 днів тому
I was only 2 at the time of this event, I was born and raised in Grand Rapids and I still live here. My mom told me about this incident years after it happened. We're not alone people. Life isn't what it seems
@leonardhollerbach9806
@leonardhollerbach9806 Місяць тому
I saw this as well. A dark triangle ship between South Haven Michigan and Hagar Shore. It was using the strip of land between I-196 and Blue Star hwy (M-63). Both parallel each other and Lake Michigan heading South to Hagar Shore-Benton Harbor area. Between those 2 highways is a sliver of land with trees. No leaves were on them since it was about the first week of March . It was as long as a 747. Completely triangular with lights at all 3 points. 1 light in the center. It was 3:00 am and I was on Blue Star heading back to work (I was and am a caterer heading back to work from doing a bbq lunch for a company called CONTROLLED RUBBER on Stieve dr in South Haven. I saw a pick up truck parked on the side of the road heading north. They were looking up at some lights. When I got closer they came out of their slumber moving a million miles trying to get back in their vehicle and they drove off fast. By the time they started to pass me I had my window down to talk to them (I had slowed down a little to see if they were alright. As they passed they honked the horn vigorously and gestured for me to follow. I was in a 1992 Chevy cargo van and I kept driving forward. I slowed down to 35 mph to match the speed of the lights and stuck my head out of the drivers side window. I did this for what felt like 5 minutes. Look at the road, look at the UFO. REPEAT. At first since it’s very dark and the only light I could see were those on the ship so it was very hard to see the ship from underneath it at first. After a while though your eyes adjust to the darkness and you then can see shapes and definition. Again, I only saw the underbelly of this massive ship which flew what appeared to be as little as 30 to 50 feet above the trees. If the trees were in bloom it would have been mostly covered up but as it was you could it. When there was an open area you could see all of it in its entirety. The ship itself was NOT SMOOTH. Not like an airplane. This had a bunch of….bulky boxy things all over it. ….the best description I have for it makes it sound fake but it’s like any of those triangular ..Star Wars big triangular ships. Not smooth but busy with an assortment of various lines and box shapes on it. The lights were white then would morph slowly into different colors of the rainbow. Also the lights turned from White to Yellow to light green to blue to white to orange to red to white. However they didn’t turn automatically from these different colors as they MORPHED into them. The lights were round but the light inside acted almost like a gas or liquid (not saying they are those elements). They slowly changed color from one to the other. Starting on one side then changing across the whole light area. Also it made no sound. I never heard it. Not once. It was pretty close to the tree tops. If it had been a small plane, big plane it would have been loud and moving faster than 35 mph. It stayed steady at 35 mph. Even a helicopter is very loud. NO SOUND. At one point I heard a car on the other highway (I could not see it) slam on its breaks and turn around then started heading back from the direction where it came from which I believe was South. (I couldn’t see this but heard it all because it was soooo quiet. Once I heard him take off I started to wonder what the hell I was doing and I hit the gas and sped home! I was just entering Hagar Shore on M-63 wh Rd n I left it behind. 6 minutes later I got back to the catering facility and then home. I remember holding my home phone 📞 thinking how to report this. In the end I didn’t make the call. I told my dad and step mom (who I work for) but they assumed I was joking or hallucinating I told my 2 best friends after work the next day but then they just wanted to change the subject. Some time later one of my friends told me there was a write up in the local newspaper about a ufo sighting north of us in the Muskegon/Holland area. I just said, No, I saw this around here. Years later I started to look up things on my own and found out how I was NOT THE ONLY ONE TO SEE THIS! I did try one last time to report this to my local police department. Granted I talked to a police officer as he was leaving but I said pretty much what I said here and he told me that yeah, I could report this but he couldn’t see what good it would do seeing it had happened the week before. I could tell he wanted nothing to do with it so I took the cue and left. There is soooo much info out there on this event. I remember years back when I started to investigate it how Wikipedia didn’t have anything on it for the longest time. This is very much like other famous incidents but it got no notoriety. Now it’s on Wikipedia. It’s the anniversaries of the event that help create new content on this subject. I’m having a blast reading what others saw and how my recollection and theirs helps to answer questions that I had.
@yokle-hv9zq
@yokle-hv9zq 25 днів тому
My observation was aligned with yours......except my sighting was in Oceana county. As you stated NO sound but in the complete country darkness you could sense it being there...and the lights were red. I was spooked and got back into my van and left. When home I called mufon and reported it.....but never received any return calls from any government officials.
@amazingvideo2869
@amazingvideo2869 Місяць тому
I got news for You on this, I know where these come from and I will tell You where to spot them today those same crafts. I used to live in Bridgeman Michigan which is near the bottom of the lake Michigan Triangle and the Beach there it's Custom for many to watch the sun set there every evening, well it's typical that after the sun goes down everyone leaves. I promise You that if You stay there on the beach 20 minutes past sun down that You will see all of these ufos coming out of the water out 300 yards and going up. I've seen them many times. These are the same ones that every one always sees. There is a base under the water 300 yards out at that beach I would bet my life on. To this day I refuse to swim there or take my boat out to that location, no way! I'll Pass! Don't want to end up like Travis Walton from the movie fire in the sky!
@jasonfreese2654
@jasonfreese2654 18 днів тому
It's weird they wouldn't close it off, but there are many bases around those areas
@guppyspop
@guppyspop 19 днів тому
I laughed out load with the Greg Brady reference 😂
@The.Original.Potatocakes
@The.Original.Potatocakes Місяць тому
Right across the lake from Muskegon is the Great Lakes naval base. It’s probably from that. I live in holland and people still talk about this all the time.
@65895555
@65895555 27 днів тому
Remember this night distinctly because I was in Chicago at the hospital waiting for my daughter to be born. I was listening to Art Bell on the radio , and many listeners from Michigan were calling in to repot to Art. I am from Frankfort Mi, so I knew exactly where the UFO was going south along the lake and Route 31 , Muskegon, Grand Haven, Holland. I did not see it come over to the Chicago side of the lake, cause I had a perfect view looking out over Lake Michigan. I waited a long time watching but never did see it.
@sirkle1
@sirkle1 Місяць тому
In the mid 1960's 4 of us kids saw several different lights high in the sky moving fast across the sky, then stopping and hovering as he described in Lewiston Michigan. As we were only kids,we told an adult, who was the Police Chief of Mount Clemens Mi. He saw them and called Oscoda Air Force Base. They told him that they were receiving such reports from all over the Northern Lower Peninsula. They claimed to have no idea what people were seeing.
@davidca96
@davidca96 Місяць тому
Im in Michigan, havent seen a darn thing if im honest but I wish I did see something as I love ufo's.
@Fido-vm9zi
@Fido-vm9zi Місяць тому
Both here & there. Great show!
@rileyacker1752
@rileyacker1752 Місяць тому
I live about an hour north of Muskegon, ludington Michigan. Definitely weird on this side of the state. Plenty of self and other claims
@alexsandrarokas7117
@alexsandrarokas7117 Місяць тому
Tell me what’s weird about the West side of Michigan.
@tamiwaite4536
@tamiwaite4536 20 днів тому
1995 at 4:30am a UFO as big as a football field hung right over the trees next to my house in Presque Isle, MI. On Lk Huron. I was 200ft from it. I called 911 & Mufon...Huge, silent, glowing bright light
@brianscribner4666
@brianscribner4666 20 днів тому
In 1994 or 1995 my partner and I were sitting point in our ambulance in Kalamazoo. We saw an orange ball of light diving at a high rate of speed from the edge of the atmosphere. It was moving faster than anything I’d ever seen. As it came close to the horizon, it made an impossible 90 degree turn and leveled off. This was off to the north-west. It flew off to the south-east and disappeared on the horizon. No way it was a plane or meteor.
@333dsteele1
@333dsteele1 27 днів тому
Good discussion
@pisachanation414
@pisachanation414 26 днів тому
UFO's (saucer shaped) were spotted before a long time ago, near the Mackinac Bridge area when there was a military base near there. (I live in Michigan) We don't know if they were actual ET spacecrafts, or man made. The military person who called the sighting in, was told to ignore them. What does that tell you? I had a very close encounter with a very bright Orb in 1976 outside of the passenger side window of the van my husband and I were in. He saw it too, and began to pull the van off on the shoulder. The second he did that, the Orb vanished instantly! It had been so close, if my window had been down, I could have stuck my arm out and touched it, if it actually could have been touched. Ironically enough, we were driving near a small airport, and was the only vehicle on the the road in both directions at that time. My husband and I promised not talk to anyone about it for fear of being laughed at and called crazy by our friends and relatives. I never did, and as far as I know he never did either. I divorced him in 1982. He died 14 years ago, so I can't verify that he never did. We didn't even talk about it to each other in private. It was like it was erased from our memories. Very weird! I eventually forgot about it for over 30 years, until one evening when when my neighbor came over to visit, and we were talking about strange things that had happened to us in our lives. Suddenly, the memory of the Orb came flooding in, and I told him all about it. He is a believer in UFO's and found my encounter very facinating. That was a very interesting conversation we had that evening. He moved to Arizona about 3 years ago. I hope he has been able to see some some since he has been out there. He's not that far from Nevada where Nellis Air Force Base is, with Area 51 sitting within one corner of it. I hope everyone gets to see a UFO or better yet an Orb in your lifetime. We definitely are not alone in the Universe.
@RunToEternity
@RunToEternity Місяць тому
What about old sightings from 1987? Well I left a story of my sighting of a triangular craft on your other video, "TRIANGULAR UFO Breakdown by Author David Marler" from 3 years ago. That is if anyone is interested. It too is in Michigan.
@313barrygmail
@313barrygmail Місяць тому
Look up guy merit. He also saw the triangle. We talked about it and Michigan UFO podcast, but he has his own channel.
@Mentorman63
@Mentorman63 28 днів тому
In 94 I was teaching econ at a local community college. I would have been returning home at that exact time and place...except it happened to be Spring Break...so instead of seeing a cool thing, I was painting a room at home that night. Dang. Heard an audio recording of a woman calling 911 reporting a strange object over her neighbor's barn, then in the background you could hear her kids screaming, "Mom it's coming closer!" Panic. Heard that one right after the event on local radio. Can't find it now. Weird. Wonder why?
@evealpizar
@evealpizar Місяць тому
Hey, we have interesting weather in Atlanta too. Great testimony!
@walkercustoms
@walkercustoms Місяць тому
I think things are constantly around everywhere, a sighting like this is unique though. But if you watch the sky especially at night and understand vehicles of flight in and above the atmosphere, you can see something anywhere and almost anytime.
@bradleys4941
@bradleys4941 23 дні тому
I lived and grew up a few miles away...and didn't hear about it until wayyy afterwards....I'm bummed out...I woulda drove down there in a flash to see that!!...damn!! lol
@lucyfanning4194
@lucyfanning4194 26 днів тому
Cool show sounds good great subject😊
@alexsandrarokas7117
@alexsandrarokas7117 Місяць тому
I’m going to bring some other things to attention. In 1953 we had an EF 5 tornado in flint. On May 8th, 1964 we had an EF 4 tornado in Chesterfield Township on Anghor Bay where my grandparents had a small ribbon farm. The whole house was completely lifted off of its foundation . . . . It’s been mentioned that Michigan had been experiencing a lot of severe storm during the 50s and 60s. It’s speculated that the storms were caused by the nuclear testing that was going on out in the desert. What do you think about that/
@chesterfieldthe3rd929
@chesterfieldthe3rd929 Місяць тому
It's true
@retiredfire66rybak50
@retiredfire66rybak50 Місяць тому
Jack, we have anti gravity abilities according to Johnson head of one of the aerospace leaders. We have the ability to take ET home....
@boa1793
@boa1793 Місяць тому
I don’t think Ets want to go there because they’ve blown it up, like what we might be doing to Earth.
@feraltweed
@feraltweed Місяць тому
About fourty years ago I lived on rogers pond south of big rapid’s Michigan. I was living with my girlfriend a friend of mine was there as well. We were watching a movie at night when my girlfriend asked what is that. We all jumped up and looked out the window and there over the water not more than a few hundred yards away we all saw something over the water it looked the size of a school bus and was all light up with rows of lights. My girlfriend was afraid to go outside and even tried to keep my buddy and I from going out but we did. The thing was not moving at all and was not making any noise. I made my way out to the dock to watch it and it turned on a spotlight that showed on the opposite shore. It left the light on for a few second before turning it off and started moving south and west not fast but instantly without speeding up or slowing down. In just a few seconds it went down past the dam then went straight south at incredible speed and was gone. We talked about it for about a half hour before calling the sheriff. After all we did not know what to report. When I got ahold of the sheriff he told me that he was instructed to tell callers that it was swamp gas. The next day a local disc jockey admitted that he had seen it as well and that he had seen the spot light as well. I spent weeks trying to figure out what we saw. I finally decided it had to be a ufo
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
Wow! That must've been so crazy. Were you scared? Sometimes people report not feeling fear--just a sense of awe or 'peaceful' interest; others feel terror. Some seem to feel that the UAP was somehow controlling their response. Good on you for reporting it.
@xDevin
@xDevin Місяць тому
I’m in Michigan and I saw a weird thing once I was standing at a bus stop waiting for the metro to pick me up and I was standing there with two friends looking at the sky it was night out and we witnessed one bright looking light or star in the distance and a lot of smaller lights coming from all different directions yet all going towards that same light we counted over 30 of them then they all were just gone, I still don’t know what that was to this day man
@swanie1744
@swanie1744 Місяць тому
I seen this, I was on the beach in Montague with two of my friends, it freaked us out! I was 4 years out of high school at the time.
@swanie1744
@swanie1744 Місяць тому
Seen this exact thing but it was warm out because we were swimming.
@LorettaMoore1234
@LorettaMoore1234 Місяць тому
I'd be willing to bet there were a lot more than 300 witnesses. How many people do you think was afraid to call it in because of the fear of being considered a freak?
@LorettaMoore1234
@LorettaMoore1234 Місяць тому
Sorry for bad grammar.
@falstaff59
@falstaff59 Місяць тому
No worries about the grammar. The content was fact. No one wants to be sneered at....you keep quiet.
@user-qp4wq5jz9z
@user-qp4wq5jz9z Місяць тому
I was 9 years old. Nobody would believe me
@falstaff59
@falstaff59 Місяць тому
@@user-qp4wq5jz9z Yep...I was four years older than that yet knew I might not be believed if I said anything...or worse ridiculed for it. Still, I wouldn't change the happening if I could.
@leonardhollerbach9806
@leonardhollerbach9806 Місяць тому
I was 23 years old and working at 3:00 am when I saw it just South of South Haven. At least 3 guys in a truck that I know of saw it when I did plus I heard a vehicle brake hard and speed away from it. I have no idea if they called the police but I had no cell phone at that time and by the time I got home I did pick up the phone but… you don’t want to be THAT GUY! The next day I told my parents and my best friends. Nobody wanted to talk about it. They changed the subject and looked at me suspiciously like either I’m lying or I was drunk or I didn’t know what I saw and I’m just grasping at straws. Those were the 4 people who knew me best and I was known for being very honest. Too honest some called me. A week or so later I went to Coloma twp. Police dept And talked to a police officer who pointed out it would do no good to report it since it happened the week before. He looked at me strangely the whole time. What got me was that I saw it very much near the Palisades nuclear plant in Covert mi and the officer still didn’t care. Again,…. NOBODY WANTS TO BE THAT GUY! I felt it my responsibility to tell the authorities because something that large and quiet being THST close to a power plant scared me because I lived close to it.
@acmebombfactory
@acmebombfactory Місяць тому
Virgil Grissom Joint Air Reserve Base (90 miles from Lake Michigan) & Naval Station Great Lakes is considered that regions "Area 52". The US Naval Institute posted it was gonna be used for testing unmanned aircraft/vessels. Google Navy Area 52 and you'll see Forbes, Bloomberg, The Navy etc. have done stories regarding the area to test drones for its remote location. Is it possible they've used the area in the past to do some testing?
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
Interesting! I seem to recall these guys saying they'd be surprised if these were military tests given the flight path they followed, which was apparently within a dense civilian air traffic area.
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
Are weather or air traffic control radars ever recorded or otherwise documented so that various flight paths can be later reviewed if needed in order to reconstruct/research past events? Is there a repository of past data? If so, how long is it kept? Etc.
@katherinemartell7854
@katherinemartell7854 Місяць тому
Same thing happened over Flint Michigan in the 70s...
@boa1793
@boa1793 Місяць тому
Nukes had probably been transferred to Selfridge Air Base and the ETs followed them there.
@edwardkipp4911
@edwardkipp4911 Місяць тому
I'm sure the campers on the beach were ice fishermen... I would want to interview them because they probably had cameras to take pics of their catches... they might have pics of the ufo's, but with the mindset of people then, they probably kept it to themselves...
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
It would be great if there was a way to put out a call for any photos or videos people took & never shared.
@markesselstynmiller747
@markesselstynmiller747 Місяць тому
Any photos of video on the sightings?
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
From what I gathered from the interview (I think it was Bill who said it), only a couple of images were submitted to MUFON: a badly blurry video of a tiny looking light and a similar photograph of just a tiny light. That's one of the downsides of this case, given how many people (300 I think?) made reports/called 911...
@TheFrogballz
@TheFrogballz Місяць тому
March 8th 1994 was the tenth tuesday of the year. In my opinion there more to this date that they appeared on than we understand. Your conversation is only scratching the surface. You have to dig deeper.
@retiredfire66rybak50
@retiredfire66rybak50 Місяць тому
How to become field investigation with MUFON?
@socialmeaslesinpartnership1252
@socialmeaslesinpartnership1252 Місяць тому
That's an interesting question. Think about it...........................................................
@Insectoid_
@Insectoid_ Місяць тому
This channel baffles me. Some videos get tends of thousands of views other videos get tens of views.
@sherrylandgraf556
@sherrylandgraf556 22 дні тому
I'm wondering why the government didn't come (send planes or something) not necessarily to be aggressive but to witness or verify. ? to acknowledge. I'm sure people saw what they saw.
@Draintheswamp2024
@Draintheswamp2024 29 днів тому
I seen one around that time in Fowlerville Mi walking out of the wood's deer hunting and it was hovering over the tree line was black probably 20 feet wide and it had a light about 1/3 shinning from underneath. followed alongside in a car at 60 yards off my right shoulder then come to a 4-way intersection then turned towards it, we tried hitting it, but it was above us and when we got close it moved out of the way then it went past the driver's side back to the intersection and it took off towards the east very fast. there was lightning shortly after i think the storm was fueling it.
@user-zh8kx6oh1i
@user-zh8kx6oh1i 28 днів тому
"Saw" one = past tense, first grade English. "Came" to a 4-way . . . Not "come."
@Draintheswamp2024
@Draintheswamp2024 27 днів тому
@@user-zh8kx6oh1i thanks for the correction butt joust.
@obilesk
@obilesk 21 день тому
​@@user-zh8kx6oh1ialso THE WOOD'S *WHAT*? There's an apostrophe so it /must/ be something that belongs to the wood.
@Draintheswamp2024
@Draintheswamp2024 19 днів тому
@@user-zh8kx6oh1i as long as you can comprehend this world is in a better place thanks to user, at least my name isn't like a license plate.
@IcyMan143
@IcyMan143 Місяць тому
Aeyyy it’s A-a-ron!!
@scandalouslando204
@scandalouslando204 19 днів тому
I live in Michigan, i remember as a kid one night i seen one large object with several colored lights surrounding it. Everyone in my house was sleeping idk why i woke up and seen it, i woke up my brother cuz i was scared i knew it wasnt normal it was super close to my house, he seem it too and we hid. We were kids didnt know what to do.
@angelamclaughlin4918
@angelamclaughlin4918 Місяць тому
Were they triangular and glowing red on the bottom?
@beekneed
@beekneed Місяць тому
I think Bill described these as discs when asked to compare them with the Phoenix Lights triangles. Metallic discs with multi-colored lights x
@andrewcarpenter9222
@andrewcarpenter9222 Місяць тому
I seen Something years ago on a very windy day gust up to 100+ . Was outside to experience it looked up to see stuff flying in air like parts of barns . Way up in the sky i see something round just saying still for a long time 10 plus minutes try to get my kids to come out to look nut were scared of the wind and did not come out. This is by Fermi two nuclear plant.
@janeharrison7145
@janeharrison7145 Місяць тому
July 16,2016 11 pm over Detroit seeing lights in 4 point domino configuration with a 5th following behind. Pear shaped neon color changing lights. Stopped and paused over Detroit. Color change from green to peach color. In air space normally occupied by commercial aircraft
@user-tl5tt5yw3c
@user-tl5tt5yw3c Місяць тому
We saw bright crome color and it went fast as light sphere
@i2308Matt
@i2308Matt Місяць тому
Living in Michigan myself I’ve never seen anything yet !!!
@The.Original.Potatocakes
@The.Original.Potatocakes Місяць тому
It be fair it was 30 years ago and it was only In a small west Michigan area.
@yourwifeslover
@yourwifeslover Місяць тому
There was another siding in the same area but it was Somewhere Between 1979 and 1981 does anyone remember this I remember it distinctly if anyone could reply to this post who remembers that or knows anything about it please do
@65895555
@65895555 27 днів тому
There were many sightings along the western Michigan shoreline towns in 1979 and early 1980’s. Saw one in July 1979 along Lake Michigan in Frankfort.
@user-wi1tg1do5x
@user-wi1tg1do5x Місяць тому
I seen something really high up in the sky in Holland back in probably around 2007 that seemed twice as high as jets fly that was really shiny and a Holland city police officer was watching it too driving real slowly down the road. Do not know what it was must have been something interesting if the police were following it probably about 60,000 ft I would guess.
@user-zh8kx6oh1i
@user-zh8kx6oh1i 28 днів тому
You freakin' "SAW" something. Not "seen." For God's sake. What an ignorant generation.
@jadenkrosis3087
@jadenkrosis3087 26 днів тому
@@user-zh8kx6oh1i nobody cares that you were once a spelling bee champion, stop flexing.
@daydreambeliever6603
@daydreambeliever6603 Місяць тому
We must have been uninteresting because they haven’t been back😢
@Fido-vm9zi
@Fido-vm9zi Місяць тому
Creations grow. That takes time.
@user-pg6cw6ik6t
@user-pg6cw6ik6t Місяць тому
72000 mph. 1sec 20 mi
@cindypravda7080
@cindypravda7080 29 днів тому
I was pleasantly surprised to hear that my sentence of “there are UFOs in my backyard “is so popular🙂 I have a few of my own thought provoking questions on who we are actually seeing. Is the Earth flat? And if it is, then they’re coming from our own earth… there’s a lot of speculation about the ice walls around Antarctica and lands beyond there that is highly protected from anybody going over there…Do you believe in time travel? They could be our future selves up there. Do you believe in portals? What a fast way to get from one spot to another. I’m just thinking out loud.🤷‍♀️ And if the government is slowly dripping information lately. Does that mean they have a false flag coming out? To get our attention off some thing else. Look over here and not look over there?
@user-tl5tt5yw3c
@user-tl5tt5yw3c Місяць тому
When you see it you know it is not human
@kinghaze6597
@kinghaze6597 Місяць тому
Yea I seen something going down Apple it was like a falling half a moon
@jeffmaggard3694
@jeffmaggard3694 27 днів тому
I live in Michigan and have seen black balloon type things hovering around. Anyone seen anything like that?
@benjamespaulk5978
@benjamespaulk5978 Місяць тому
maybe they were trying to say we come from far that direction and want to come together and do trade.
@mikeclarke952
@mikeclarke952 27 днів тому
20 miles in 1 sec = 20 x 3600= 72,000 mph.
@Laviolette101
@Laviolette101 Місяць тому
I had something to say but it disappeared.
@chesterfieldthe3rd929
@chesterfieldthe3rd929 Місяць тому
Happens❤
@ronniewilson6597
@ronniewilson6597 Місяць тому
👍🏻😀
@davideluciano7761
@davideluciano7761 24 дні тому
I live in Michigan had 9 sighting but one looks so cool and I know this wasn't from Earth it was cloak first I saw a puff of cloud put out of nowhere then lighting appears in the cloud the the ship appear half of it it had gold and white led lights than disappeared in second
@troybizeau5979
@troybizeau5979 29 днів тому
how about the UP
@Thurston86
@Thurston86 Місяць тому
🤘👽👽👽
@eileensmith3962
@eileensmith3962 Місяць тому
No no Nooo most of those are actually ours!
@steveschweichler7023
@steveschweichler7023 Місяць тому
I wonder if they were a new alien species that just arrived at earth at the time and were exploring
@killerStomper
@killerStomper Місяць тому
Oh my god. Hurry up. 4 minutes in and still waffling on.
@chesterfieldthe3rd929
@chesterfieldthe3rd929 Місяць тому
Boo
@wildwinger-19
@wildwinger-19 28 днів тому
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