My Fake Picasso Went to Auction at $1.4 Million
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3 роки томуForgery is one of the greatest challenges the art world faces today, with fakes and misattributions estimated to be as high as 50% of all works in the market.
Before his arrest, Billy “The Brush” Mumford forged over 1000 pieces that made their way across the globe. His best friend David Henty had equally thrived selling his fakes on eBay, with one of his Picasso copies recently going up for auction at £1 million.
Sydney Lima meets the two convicted forgers as they work to create a knock-off piece of art that could be accepted as real. Then she takes the piece to a forensic lab to see whether they can tell it’s a fake.
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@annjay2581 3 роки тому
"Sometimes I do a few Picassos before breakfast, they're not that difficult" The shaaade 💀💀💀
@scotsman6712 3 роки тому
if he can do these and sell for 5 thousand apiece, not claiming them as originals,not a bad mornings work
@heinuchung8680 2 роки тому
I said the same lol
@TS-wv4tf 2 роки тому
so, do you think a Chinese guy making Louis Vuitton fake is as remarkable a designer as Louis Vuitton designers?
@frogeater4098 2 роки тому
@@TS-wv4tf making a painting and having it look exactly like one of those is way harder than one of those conveyor belt jobs where one guy does one stitch and another does the other. There's actual skill involved in painting
@khangvinh4656 2 роки тому
@@TS-wv4tf no but it does shave a couple thousand of dollars from the price tag.
@joshuafehr301 3 роки тому
Plot twist: He wants to make you think he can't pass the forgery test.
@djiunofficial4528 3 роки тому
@JZ's Best Friend Hahaaa!
@karimixtape 3 роки тому
plot twist: he works with the forensic team .
@prosaic.7944 3 роки тому
Guy knows everything about Lowry and art lady thought he was dumb enough to use cadmium red instead of vermillion. He's definitely hiding his true level of forgery.
@joshuafehr301 3 роки тому
@@prosaic.7944 EXACTLY. A magician never tells his tricks. I think thats how it goes....
@merrymaurader2521 2 роки тому
😂😂😂🖼
@preciousthing101 3 роки тому
I love this episode cause you can see that the painter purposely did a sloppy job, obviously he didn't want to give his best work. He was even shocked when she told him it went well. He was fully expecting to get the work caught as a bad fake.
@ikik1648 2 роки тому
They’re so sly lol
@penono Рік тому
why would a person who creates fake gave away how he does fakes. and let alone let ot have tested lol
@OmegaF77 Рік тому
@@penono So he won' be arrested again?
@DeannaSt Рік тому
@@OmegaF77 He doesn’t have to be arrested unless he gets caught that he made a fake and he sold it and presented it as an original. Any artist can make a copy of any famous painting on earth and sell it legally for a lot of money to someone who wants to have a copy of a famous artwork; it’s not against the law if you tell the buyer it’s a copy; people will pay you more than average money if you copy well an extremely famous artwork. If it’s done so well that you have trouble telling the difference, you will always find a buyer for something that masterly done, even a copy. A masterly copy it’s far more valuable than a photographic print of the original. It’s common practice for artists to go into a museum to make copies; they will allow you to sit in front of a painting and copy it, it’s a common practice, has been done since the invention of the museum because that was the way students learned how to paint in the beginning; they went to the art gallery and copied a masterpiece, about 150 years ago the students could be assessed based on the similarity of the copy to the original.
@racerx1189 4 місяці тому
I agree. She caught all the red flags instantly.
@DavidDiMuzio 3 роки тому
I'd buy one of his paintings. As long as he doesn't lie or try to deceive anyone I think it's pretty cool what he does. It's like covering a song. ...but covering a painting.
@francogonz 2 роки тому
YES
@pocketrocket6494 2 роки тому
I agree!
@tsvetomilivanov7618 2 роки тому
Yeah, a bad cover though. If it was a good one, he would chang something to make it his own.
@Daniel-ci5qp 2 роки тому
@@tsvetomilivanov7618 shut up
@harijoel 2 роки тому
Romans actually used to do this. They didn't think copying art would make art less valuable and copied ancient Greek masterpieces for their own admiration.
@vahgarimo9864 3 роки тому
Most chill criminals ever
@halolime117 3 роки тому
Professionals have standards
@Cheesblenders4all 3 роки тому
theyre really just making paintings and selling them, you dont have to be "tough" to do that
@vahgarimo9864 3 роки тому
@@Cheesblenders4all ?.
@fiveeightandten 3 роки тому
stoners’
@josephpeeler5434 3 роки тому
Lovable rogues who didn't do great harm.
@Synthanicmusic 3 роки тому
This man casually paints a beautiful replica then just sends it off, he’s got talent even if it is just mimicking what he knows.
@Synthanicmusic 3 роки тому
@@okinnivlek I have the same process producing music, I try to replicate something a professional has made and end up learning much more than if I were on my own. I'd love to have an 'original Picasso' hanging up in my place
@thumbsupcrew4427 3 роки тому
Hes a genius
@jonathanmusser7109 3 роки тому
Everything is a remix!
@danmarm5357 3 роки тому
Yes and no, Picasso painting are really easy to replicate. Picasso himself said it, his paiting could be copied very easy and no one would notice since he didn't sign his paintings.
@Synthanicmusic 3 роки тому
@@danmarm5357 as someone with little to no physical artistic ability, this is news to me, thanks!
@davidsvenstrup6688 3 роки тому
That dude just gave them a low level work so they wouldn't realize how good he actually is
@ihavenothingbettertodowith2358 Рік тому
Probably
@theshehzadshow Рік тому
The cut at 1:50 of him saying "I served some time..." to a board with "Serving Thyme" written on it was amazing.
@NickOats 3 роки тому
Anyone else think the guy gave them a bad copy so he can hide his power level?
@David-lt9jw 3 роки тому
Yeah the colour mistake is such a basic one
@hunteref.1276 3 роки тому
Exactly the same.
@icanwatchthevideos 3 роки тому
It was all an elaborate misdirection, you see at the end that he paints in a vault behind a faux bookshelf! haha
@nathanielbryan9489 3 роки тому
Over 9000
@sylvesterakaPogi 3 роки тому
Exactly bro...and that Art lady thinks that she did a good job of finding it...
@Joe-so6su 3 роки тому
That guy has a really good point about people wanting paintings and not prints. If they sold licensed reproductions instead of prints that would be cool. Although I can't imagine that doesn't already exist.
@ShanaLawson 3 роки тому
The people who own the originals don’t like reproductions as it “makes theirs less special” 🙄🤦♀️
@eveking6289 3 роки тому
You can recreate any painting and I believe you can even sign the artists name, you can only get in trouble if you try and sell it as an original, you have to advertise it is your own painting 🙂
@graham1034 3 роки тому
There are "3d" prints now too that have the raised texture of the paint. Get close and you can still tell but it's getting better
@charliesolorzano8457 3 роки тому
@@ShanaLawson do u not agree ?
@ryleypalmer 3 роки тому
@@charliesolorzano8457 they mean the mega rich collectors who buy art want to be the only ones to own it
@prodr0xxthefirst267 3 роки тому
The double standard from that forgery expert, making money off of someone else's genius? Isn't that what the art world does anyway? The artists family or descendants don't see a penny unless they're the ones who own the painting originally. I'm with the forger. If you wanna buy a painting, get it analysed, especially if you're spending a lot of money on it.
@pandakatiefominz 2 роки тому
..."If you wanna buy a painting, get it analyzed." "The double standard of the forgety expert." Babe, you realize you just explained exactly why she has a job, right? She's not "profiting off of someone's genuis" she's profiting off of people who want originals. She's not making money off of anybody's name because she's not claiming to be one of these artists. Her job isn't about the "genius" of the painting, it's about the chemical analysis, colours used, and the age.
@HondoTrailside 2 роки тому
The art world, does not just make money off artists, they invent the artists. Most famously, the CIA pushed the whole modern art grift supporting not only artists for decades, but a lot of the institutions and media around them, even creating a bulk of the art magazines. Today it is more the ponzi scheme of the auction companies.
@raph2k01 2 роки тому
@@pandakatiefominz Old thread but the OG comment wasn't really commenting about how the forgery expert profits off the art world, but the comment she made that no one should be making money from someone else's art. It's an odd comment for her to make, the art world is already profiting millions off of someone else's genius, and the forger is simply playing their game.
@SaltNBattery Рік тому
I don't see anything wrong with this? The fine art market is such a joke and only really available to the upper upper 0.1%. Especially if no one ever finds out, like who's he hurting? The dead artist? The people who own the painting, got a painting that's "amazing" by their standards. If they do find out? Who care's if a billionaire gets ripped off?
@The1stAssassins 3 роки тому
I love how the one guy is like "I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole" and the other guy is like 'yeah, I do crime 😎'
@tring-aling-ahim-bahoo-lah6378 3 роки тому
These guys LOOK like how I'd imagine art criminals to look.
@phantom4E2 2 роки тому
they look like they made a the great pretender live action
@fr_elmahir9016 2 роки тому
@@phantom4E2 that’s exactly what I was thinking ! And this video reminds me of the moment where they scam the art guy
@rolfjanssen9349 3 роки тому
this makes me want to buy fakes from these guys they seem so nice
@90sanime52 3 роки тому
Dude you got a like from vice how do you feel?
@trentdacherry 3 роки тому
it makes me wanna vomit art forgery so i can go to jail for painting
@jasonMB999 3 роки тому
If this woman is vice's new host, vice has a new number 1 fan
@rolfjanssen9349 3 роки тому
@@90sanime52 pretty good lol
@josephpeeler5434 3 роки тому
I am certain they will not mind selling you fakes.
@dovechocolate8847 3 роки тому
Lmfao this homie paints multiple, almost perfect Picasso replicas like he’s reading the newspaper. 💀💀
@barbicoh 2 роки тому
I like how that art authentication lady felt so proud of herself proving a painting done in like an hour was fake. As if a forger would actually show his real skill while being documented.
@SlightlyDazed. 3 роки тому
Lmao he's definitely not done his best to make a forgery, he wants it to look like that's the best he can do, he's not stupid. Also that's stuck up lady at the lab kinda pissed me off, I mean she's profiting of the genius of dead artists just as much as he is
@ca-ke9493 3 роки тому
Tbf, we knew the result of the authentication already, there is no way that either the forger or the authentication place is gonna let the video go up if the forgery actually worked.
@wpzxtr833 3 роки тому
also they planted the books at the car boot sale
@prorok21 3 роки тому
@@wpzxtr833 yep all staged, usual Vice isn't it.
@1nvisible1 3 роки тому
*@**12:16** "Is there any way that anyone could trick these machines?"* *Master forger isn't about to cough up the recipe for every pretty girl that winks at him.* *The answer is buy pre 1976 pigments at estate sales for a quid each* *Pay the rubbish man to bring them to you, etc.*
@TheyForcedMyHandLE 3 роки тому
The lady didn't see stuck up at all to me
@MRSLAV 3 роки тому
These two should have a tv show
@ZaneDalton 3 роки тому
Hey, it’s you!
@Mdqnw 3 роки тому
VICE CALL THEM BACK
@thedevilsadvocate5210 3 роки тому
The Art Team.
@soniqua2709 3 роки тому
Or a movie!
@bluefernlove 3 роки тому
I'd watch the movie!!
@jagotiberan2181 2 роки тому
“I don’t care about the money; I love the art.” I honestly believe this guy. You can tell how much he’s into it when he wakes up EVERY day to do it
@karwashblark7499 3 роки тому
Did anyone else notice the restaurant right next to the prison called "Serving Thyme"? 1:50. Amazing.
@maddog4390 3 роки тому
Yes. They quite literally froze frame, showing the sign
@karwashblark7499 3 роки тому
@@maddog4390 cool story bro
@forcesightknight 3 роки тому
I missed it, because I was reading comments.
@katekilgannon3567 2 роки тому
@@karwashblark7499 he's not wrong lol.
@alexsaucedo4930 3 роки тому
Something tells me, he could’ve done way better but refrained from doing so.
@DMWBN3 3 роки тому
There are other videos on him on UKposts. Interesting, even more so as a fellow Brightonian.... 🙂
@2sik_UK 3 роки тому
Yeah probably and if not he's only gonna learn from his mistakes
@elisazouza 2 роки тому
@@DMWBN3 what videos?
@busterbiloxi3833 2 роки тому
He refrained from nothing. He had no talent and spent his time being a con-man. End of story.
@DanSwerdlove-wb5jl 2 роки тому
@@busterbiloxi3833 no talent? You’d have to be pretty talented at painting to fool other professionals
@luismurillo9610 3 роки тому
I sometimes forget about the insanity of the art market.
@bas8792 3 роки тому
Basically they are just money laundering scheme
@Kaiyats 3 роки тому
@@bas8792 This is true it’s basically a way for them to keep large amounts of cash in an asset like gold
@giftycustom5560 2 роки тому
"Sometimes i do a few Picassos before breakfast, it's not that difficult" That line alone is enough to make Picasso rise from the grave
@mobilegameplaywalkthroughs990 2 роки тому
Surely he was talking about the sketches and what not that Picasso is known to have produced in the 10's of thousands. Picasso's body of work numbers above 50,000 pieces across a career spanning something less than 80 years. 50,000 / 80 / 365 = an average of almost 2 pieces per day, every day. Picasso himself must have sometimes done a few Picassos before breakfast.
@sl4y8r76 2 роки тому
picasso is picasso because of his creative genius and not his painting capabilities, a lot of ppl draw and a lot of them draw very well but how many ppl are picasso
@HondoTrailside 2 роки тому
Picasso would be fine with it. Saying you can copy a Picasso, takes a Picasso to have existed in the first place.
@HondoTrailside 2 роки тому
People forget that art is not difficult for artists. It is difficult to be an artist, but once you have gone through the training and development, it is a skill like any other. Difficulty is an obsession of amateurs. Of course coming up with great works of art is very difficult, but if you could get a great artist's cooperative attention, do you think it would be tough for them to repeat a painting, or a section of a painting. It shouldn't be.
@HondoTrailside 2 роки тому
@@sl4y8r76 He was a skilled artist, he could do what he needed to do, and was well trained. I think it is open to question how interesting his later work really is. He was part of a major movement in art, but then he just went on and on. If Michelangelo had had another lifetime, he would have created many more beautiful things. The breakthrough of modern art when it divorced itself from competence and realism was interesting, but I don't think it has proved durable. It is sorta like playing chopsticks. I get it, you are only using two finger. Very interesting, now could you play something using all 10 of them.
@chrisfromsouthaus2735 2 роки тому
To be fair, that lady near the end really wanted to downplay David. It would have been interesting to have her analyse a genuine painting, under the guise of it being one of David's, and see what the results would be.
@higaddrip2583 2 роки тому
Yeah but she’s not gonna tell everyone it’s hard to spot a fake she doesn’t want to encourage them lol
@leroyj62 2 роки тому
Fine art is all about downplaying personal experience and skill as it increases the philosophy that it is what you own that determines your value which in the short term increased profit.
@subratadhar7698 2 роки тому
Well she would have jeopardize her career had she appreciated his talent on camera
@Si74l0rd 2 роки тому
I suspect it was far from David's best work, and I wouldn't be entirely surprised if she'd verified a painting or two of his without being aware. Clearly David wasn't trying to really pass off that particular painting, but some of the things he didn't do have been done by forgers since the 60's if not before, and there's no way he doesn't know all the little tricks, like how to age and crack oil paint.
@PaulAllenVP 3 роки тому
He didn't want the painting to pass, total business move, keep the fed boys off his radar.
@dirkdiggler2379 3 роки тому
lol its obvious he did a quick little painting.. His real ones are using paint from the era
@SDALLE99 3 роки тому
“Is there anyway that anyone could trick this machine?” “...No.” Translation: Yes, but I’m not stupid enough to tell you on camera.
@Paco1337 3 роки тому
Well if you could get original colors from certain period in time ofc you could "trick" it
@YTT718 3 роки тому
You would probably need really old pre atomic bomb testing paint.New paint will have radioactive isotopes
@adriansmith7730 3 роки тому
Basically go ask archeologist if they have found any extra pigments you can borrow.
@stein1885 3 роки тому
@@adriansmith7730 A Chemist would probably be better.
@JDMatthias 3 роки тому
Yeah didn't Neil Caffery do a few fakes that passed machine inspection?
@josephkass477 3 роки тому
“Is there any way anyone could trick these machines?” “No” - someone who doesn’t want people to know how to trick these machines
@doords Рік тому
There is always going to be someone trying to outsmart the verification process and then they will always be new verification methods. This just how this industry works. I have a friend who has no other qualifications other than doing the art verification for life. He cant even keep up with the industry.
@leonardog4529 2 роки тому
Funniest thing is: if they sold it as an authenticated replica anyone (I certainly would) buy it for a reasonably valuable price, because all the artistic craftsmanship is really there, this is not a lie and the man is actually a good artist.
@briannatr3876 Рік тому
He is not a good artist. He is a good painter whose skills are really good at specifically forgery
@fromthepeanutgallery1084 Рік тому
@@briannatr3876 Wouldn't even say that. Some of those paintings are terrible. From 20 ft away they look alright. Close up, would never make the grade to a serious/experienced collector. These are aimed at novice collectors and new money idiots. Like the one that just won the Powerball. Ideal candidate.
@AJpro88 3 роки тому
they're not forgeries, they're just happy little accidents.
@zippymax1 3 роки тому
Channeling Bob Ross, are we? Fraud!
@sivartb7273 3 роки тому
Happy coincidences*
@KittyAdorer 2 роки тому
@@sivartb7273 hes not referencing Bob ross, hes referencing what his mom calls him
@dietsodas 3 роки тому
this guy was making the custom air forces before it was cool
@dietsodas 3 роки тому
but wait id buy a cheaper picasso painting i dont care if its real, he should sell them as [1"1]
@dietsodas 3 роки тому
@Daniel Chang i didnt want to post another comment lol
@felixculpa9390 3 роки тому
Where you getting them colors...are you dyeing them?
@Auriflamme 3 роки тому
@@dietsodas Copies of famous paintings are very cheap from China via Hong Kong. They have a whole town in China dedicated to producing them. Therefore there isn't much profit in selling legal fakes in the west. That room full of paintings was just to impress Vice. None of them would be sellable unless he is notorious enough that his fakes command a high price in their own right. For example, the time taken to paint a large Caravaggio and get it right would be wasted compared to painting a fake of a lesser known impressionist and selling it on Ebay, since nobody is going to believe that you found a Caravaggio in a car boot sale. While if you're selling it as a legal fake, it's a better time investment to do a Van Gogh/Picasso/Monet than an old master. In short if you want a cheap fake Picasso, there are dealers in Hong Kong for that.
@igethighhighhigh 3 роки тому
@Daniel Chang he’s too legendary for us fam ! 😂❤️
@o00gourou00o 3 роки тому
13:51 It would've been interesting to see what she would've answered to the forger's arguments : that some people do want a replica because they don't want a poster of it and there's nothing wrong with providing that, and that people selling the real artworks are also "profiting off someone else's genius", but without the work
@tonysuda9066 3 роки тому
What about. A copy to hang because temporary maintenance on the real thing.. Which is needed However some museums wouldnt stoop they'll say they have standards but if tourists are coming to the museum. Money is money is all I'm.saying
@HondoTrailside 2 роки тому
@@tonysuda9066 It would have been good to have had a copy of the David when that nutjob decided to renovate it with a hammer.
@HondoTrailside 2 роки тому
People should consider getting lesser known works of art in actual paint. The enjoyment of owning a painting is in the thing, but with the art business, a frankly ugly or ludicrous object can be made into a national treasure, this is partly because art has been separated from it's original purpose of covering up walls with something that is beautiful and meaningful to the owner. People should forget about a lot of this crap that only got funded because the CIA was fighting the cold war (US origin in that case). We were just told it was good. Get oneself some real art that one loves. Start with motel clowns if one is moved by them. But they have to be actually painted.
@HondoTrailside 2 роки тому
@@tonysuda9066 And fraud is fraud.
@knightartorias1825 3 роки тому
"Art is worth millions because of the message, meaning, composition of the piece." Also artists: "Oh, it's not a GENUINE Picasso? This is worthless."
@miaomiaou_ 2 роки тому
It’s not really artists saying that though, it’s dealers and art collectors, who are the people making the most money in the industry anyway.
@SinewMinew 3 роки тому
Instead of spending an absurd amount of money IMO on a painting such as Balthus’s Thérèse Sur Uber Banquette that sold for $399 million USD IN 2019 at Christie’s auction house, for instance, why not hire a forger, like David above or John Myatt or Wolfgang Beltracchi to paint a master copy for a few thousand dollars instead? No laws would be broken, the artist gets to paint & make some money and the buyer gets their painting for a massive reduction in cost with no one being the wiser (mostly). Side Note: It is disgraceful and very sad to know how many artists died in poverty, feeling like unaccomplished, unrecognized failures for their life’s work & who were exploited then by the same dealers that continue to exploit them now in death.
@TempestPoet 3 роки тому
Because paintings in that price range are typically bought as investments, not to look at them.
@paddington1670 3 роки тому
because then you couldnt launder 400 million dollars. duhhh
@plampard7813 3 роки тому
@@paddington1670 🙌 it was 18 or 19 million I believe. Still good money for launder.
@jazzypari 3 роки тому
It wouldn't feel "exclusive" or "elusive" enough for rich folks I think. Also, money needs to be laundered
@SinewMinew 3 роки тому
@@jazzypari Absolutely, I agree. If ppl have $1 million or $400 million to spend on a picture hanging on their wall, just imagine what their walls themselves cost. With that much money, they’d never display a fake painting knowingly or willingly, I’m sure. Like the Kardashians, who have billions of dollars combined, would never be caught wearing a knockoff Givenchy or Balmain, their favorite designers.
@saadeddyne3530 3 роки тому
they should make a movie about these guys.
@jayne59brohammer 3 роки тому
Please do, would be good.....love a good con artist story.
@mrsleakyshit 3 роки тому
Billy feels like a character out of a Guy Ritchie movie
@zefang4637 3 роки тому
theres actually a documentary with a similar premise called "china's van goghs"
@tessarae9127 3 роки тому
Yeah!!!
@tessarae9127 3 роки тому
I want the Hollywood version though not a documentary 😇
@Sanchez792 2 роки тому
I feel Picasso was just trolling everyone towards the end of his life 😂
@dionyzus2909 3 роки тому
"What is your favourite thing about the art world?" "The money" hahahahahahahhaha that was amazing
@inescasillas20 3 роки тому
This guy has an amazing talent. He should sell his fake paintings to art lovers! I’d rather buy one of his paintings than a wack print
@pixiebomb28 3 роки тому
i cant believe he can recreate them so flawlessly,id happily buy one
@AYellowPepper 3 роки тому
Especially since prints of these paintings are just as expensive as his replicas
@broluxgigantos89 3 роки тому
would you pay $3K for a fake? lol...he is using a scam from the past against modern technology....it's like someone from the 80's trying to sell you vacuum cleaners door to door. You just laugh and close the door.
@neji-hyuga- 3 роки тому
Or the overpriced originals
@plampard7813 3 роки тому
@@broluxgigantos89 Yes I would, if the original is going for millions, in other words unobtainable for 'normal' people. As said above, if I like something I would rather get the replica on which a very talented artist has spent hours, if not days on, than a plastic print of something which doesn't come close to the actual thing. Most of the times even for hundreds of dollars if talking big pieces. No thanks, i'll buy art, with actual paint, and if it is a fraud that's fine with me, i'll like it for the art. I'll gladly give someone 3k if he could have me a near perfect Rembrandt (for instance) within a day, or a few. Not to sell it on, just for the sake of having it on the wall.
@BcnEggNChz_ 3 роки тому
Proves how dumb we are with how we value things.
@mariorossi9655 3 роки тому
The real value is irrelevant. 90% of art sales are money laundering schemes.
@triggamansa797 3 роки тому
ukposts.info/have/v-deo/cWV4iquRnI5hroE.html
@BcnEggNChz_ 3 роки тому
Mario Rossi also very very true. Alot of rich ppl hide wealth in art .
@l.av.h7812 3 роки тому
No, you don't get it, real historical and unique for their time art pieces are heavily and safely protected in museums that are made to have a vault that can protect the historical artefacts and art pieces in case of an emergency or nuclear fallout because their historical value is so big for humanity that they shouldn't get destroyed at all cost like for example Leonardo d'avinci's Mona Lisa which art style is still mysterious to this day for modern artist that it can't be replicated.
@ws8061 3 роки тому
Art is merely a scheme by the rich to park money in tax havens
@ivoivic2448 3 роки тому
interesting how that forgery "specialist" is so confident in her assessment when she is told the image is a forgery. I'd like to see her act the same way when she's presented with a "forgery" she's told nothing about.
@SAMZIRRA 2 роки тому
Props to the woman doing the interviewing in this. She asked great questions! Loved this
@jeffrey8154 3 роки тому
I really like how she interviews. She really makes it fun to see her interacting with them. I hope she does more.
@stephenr80 Рік тому
Shes charming
@rupertcaney 3 роки тому
This guy is so pure and it's the art world that is corrupt. Good on him
@xavierfranco5800 Рік тому
Either you use the system or the system uses you.
@vvvvv432 Рік тому
I really liked the point where her fake painting went to auction for 1.4 million - best part of the video for sure!
@ATLTraveler 3 роки тому
Dude no matter what that guy is a TREMENDOUS artist...
@triggamansa797 3 роки тому
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@shsb2355 3 роки тому
Painter*
@vivekp4854 3 роки тому
its really heartbreaking that billionaires and millionaires are being cheated out of their money, when they just want to live by paying lesser tax buying art and launder their hard earned money.
@ibukun9783 3 роки тому
Lol
@theresekatie4841 Рік тому
😂
@Frfrfr_ Рік тому
Lmao right it’s so pretentious
@joelluder8549 3 роки тому
Somewhere I see Beltracchi mischievously laughing at the lady when she said theres no way to get a fake through
@luhole 3 роки тому
It takes so much talent to do what he does. It's a shame he's not recognised in his own right.
@tomasandrasko7324 3 роки тому
These guys are in a way democratizing art and I think that's lovely
@buchipatadokoroff4809 3 роки тому
it's truely beautiful ngl. smashing elitism one forgery at a time
@ajooni6154 3 роки тому
I dont care what anybuddy says, these guys true artists 😂❤️ peace to them, this is awesome
@triggamansa797 3 роки тому
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@castleenterprises23 3 роки тому
Ive never seen anybody spelled like that
@vicentetrigo9476 3 роки тому
@@castleenterprises23 lmaoo
@vicentetrigo9476 3 роки тому
dude "anybuddy"??
@laz5590 3 роки тому
My friend, of course he is a great artist , the point is, he selling his pictures as someone else creation ! The "selling" is the crime, not the painting
@yandiego96 2 роки тому
As an artist myself, going to on of the most prestigious art schools in the world (RISD) getting a BFA in painting and in debt til i die knowing most my work is just as good but wont ever amount to that kind of art market value... i think the biggest criminal act is those who have that kind of money profiting off of dead artists and trading horrid amounts of money between the rich when they should be patroning those alive today who have the skill. I say let him forge and get away with it. The world is cruel and he's just an artist doing what he loves and if u can make money that way then good on you.
@DarkisArt 2 роки тому
The millions paid for art is for money laundering.
@deleqtronica8733 2 роки тому
Banksy is the only modern-artist that is profiting from his work while he’s still alive, can’t think of anyone else’s work that would fetch so much while the artist is still alive.
@EMMYK1916 2 роки тому
@@deleqtronica8733 Basquiat is popular, Jack B Yeats
@OmegaF77 Рік тому
@@EMMYK1916 Well, Basquiat is dead.
@fuzzzone Рік тому
@@OmegaF77 Basquiat is certainly dead and has been for a long time but he WAS very commercially successful during his lifetime. When he died, he was a multi-millionaire from his art.
@richardsmythe1085 3 роки тому
Some forgeries here are stunning. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and if it looks lovely; it IS lovely. A painting doesn't need a name or signature to be appreciated as real art. PS. If you need a machine to tell you there's a forgery; why should anyone care? Share the style around. Lovely!
@litpapi9046 3 роки тому
He’s still an artist in the end and a great one too he should start making his own pieces and people will sell them for millions when he’s dead haha
@heraldeventsandfilms5970 3 роки тому
He's a grubby little crook and not one of this sort has anything to offer the arts.
@funtu4921 3 роки тому
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 I’d say it’s the grubby little rich people that profit of dead people’s art work that have nothing to offer ay?
@heraldeventsandfilms5970 3 роки тому
@@funtu4921 Most artists are dead. All artists will die. You write like an ignorant see you NT. People like you don't matter.
@JustAGooseman 3 роки тому
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 calm down you little nihilist. You probably lack all creative talent unlike the absolute unit that is David.
@heraldeventsandfilms5970 3 роки тому
@@l3k21 Ignorant see you NT.
@zeusfist 3 роки тому
"It's just justification for profiting off some one else's genius" -Lady who profits off verifying someone else's genius
@ca-ke9493 3 роки тому
Tbf she is representing her entire profession, which to be a guard against these forgeries. Dont hate the player, hate the game.
@constantsmile3370 3 роки тому
@@ca-ke9493 She's a guard against rich people getting duped and losing money on their investment. Because that's why they're buying the art.. as an investment.. They don't care about the genius that created it. I hate the player AND the game.
@1251mesi 3 роки тому
@@constantsmile3370 well said
@prorok21 3 роки тому
Her logic is impeccable😖😖. He's not profiting of anybody or anything else in that mater than simple human greed. Artist is dead longtime ago and has nothing to do with it and I bet he wouldn't give a damn about copyrights 200 y forward. She pissed me off.
@juuk3103 3 роки тому
She doesn't even realize that forgers are the ones giving her a job
@jasminematos207 Рік тому
he’s so right about prints. i would definitely commission a forgery painting of my favorite artworks.
@psychokramberry8632 Рік тому
These guys deserve a movie made about them
@spicysrirachamilkshake8167 3 роки тому
Finally a good reporter that didn’t make me cringe the whole time.
@pedopeter4166 3 роки тому
Most of their reporters lately are cringe.
@goforbroke7598 3 роки тому
I gotta say she is beautiful, she looks like Maeve Wiley from sex education
@mcfiou3207 3 роки тому
@@goforbroke7598 bro thought the same way the instance I saw her lmao
@starchild1198 3 роки тому
She's sexy
@mattkaz9604 3 роки тому
True. She's completely charming, Vice must have run short of ironic hipsters that day.
@andie728 3 роки тому
This is very amusing as an art student. While many artists value the artist style that these master artists have created the foundation for - art dealers only care about the name attributed to the painting. Art and artists are a beautiful thing, but art dealers and the art market is ruthless and uneducated. These men are basically saying "screw you" to the market, which is hilarious.
@prorok21 3 роки тому
Remember whe he said that auction house actually worked in their favour because they profited from it? So from this point, a good forger is obviously a great way to inject more money into the market. Originals won't devalue, but overal market value bubbles up due to counterfeit influx. Two sides of the equation, one makes the money and other goes to prison and gets Vice interview 🙄
@crhu319 3 роки тому
Yup. These three are doing it right. 🤣
@Greenman422 3 роки тому
Whoever owns a business that certificates genuine art pieces might want to hire one of these guys to teach em the ropes.
@geoffjoffy 2 роки тому
I've always been fascinated by people with a huge talent to copy the greatest ever paintings. But to look at these guys, you'd never think they were the copy artists. Thanks for posting.
@BadlyNamed 3 роки тому
“Justification for profiting off of some one else’s genius” - a woman who is profiting off of other people’s genius.
@star_etraWrites 3 роки тому
No. She is profiting from authenticating someone else's genius. Because the people who buy art are rich and want real art.
@prosaic.7944 3 роки тому
@@star_etraWrites "real" art? Are you implying forgers are not making art?
@luisdelgado6248 2 роки тому
She's a stuck up snob that could never paint like the forger can
@sonofben3322 2 роки тому
@@star_etraWrites if you need a professional exclusively trained to spot a forgery, then that it might as well be real
@utilitymonster8267 2 роки тому
@@prosaic.7944 For most people art means originality and creativity. Copying other people's works simply isn't that. You may consider it art, but the value of most paintings isn't because people like the picture (if that were the case they would look up a Google image), it's because people want an original painting of a famous artist.
@Blaqk_8298 3 роки тому
3:34 "TO BE AN ARTIST YOU HAVE TO STEAL A SPACE ON A RICH MANS WALL."
@helloasroma 2 роки тому
I'll take "criminals that I don't hate" for 2000, Alex.
@emergencyexit3967 3 роки тому
Secure the bag grandpa
@leiajiang7877 3 роки тому
I have no respect for the capital market they are disrupting. Mad respect to these artist
@FatalBagel 2 роки тому
They're such happy people and being so upfront about it, I love it haha
@alejandrochavez5397 8 місяців тому
I like how David Henty keeps smiling the whole video, he is so relaxed.
@1DerfulSniping 3 роки тому
the host could give margot robbie a run for her money
@mattdecker8724 3 роки тому
I know right, she’s so freaking gorgeous.
@-spudman2.054 3 роки тому
Not really, looks like she missed out on getting braces
@mattdecker8724 3 роки тому
@@-spudman2.054 All I smell is virginity
@mattdecker8724 3 роки тому
@@-spudman2.054 Says the guy anonymously putting down strangers appearance on the internet, yeah I’m definitely the creep here.
@elmersantana4903 3 роки тому
Fight
@ThePeoplesMayor 3 роки тому
They still doin it on the low. The guy without the glasses is cheesing it hella hard when his friend is denying allegations of still forging paintings haha
@tessarae9127 3 роки тому
Yeah lollll 😂 I don’t care, I say get that paper haha 😆
@tjjones33 2 роки тому
Oh my god I love the dynamic between the interviewer and david
@stainedhands 2 роки тому
the host and the two guys have so much chemistry together
@caddyj1 3 роки тому
Those Basquiats give me the chills just amazing pieces those two gentlemen are not dumb criminals by any means, so relatable and talented hats off to them. It just goes to show the arrogance of people who value art and the rich who have them on their walls it's sickening how some of those people are.
@margielamaan 3 роки тому
YOOOOO I KNOW HIM IRL, hes so sweet actually :)
@Bud4brains 3 роки тому
I wanna buy a painting off him. Guys got skills
@nicoeeek.7181 3 роки тому
@@Bud4brains totally!!! Would love to get some of his stuff
@lindamaemullins5151 3 роки тому
Cool 👍
@JG-vk1yj 3 роки тому
do you know where could we buy some little paintings?
@censored_dream 3 роки тому
Sydney is so stunning and charming, kind of an artform herself 😅
@lllllllllllllllllllll1lll1 3 роки тому
My heart
@divinepowerfc6017 2 роки тому
Don't be a Simp
@snipsnap9995 3 роки тому
An excellent painter who just really loves art and does like the idea of it only being accessible to the ultra wealthy. I love it! This is exactly what I'd imagine professional art forgers would be like, anyone else who just wants to see movie or full documentary about them?
@openanielbrian6717 3 роки тому
You need a lot of talking skills to do this scheme hahahah
@KingExodusYAY 3 роки тому
I mean he still probably makes bank just on being able to make good REPLICAS of those famous paintings.
@iamalittleboat 2 роки тому
Profiting off other people's genius is what the entire art industry is about. I think what he's doing is perfectly in line with that.
@TM-jd3st Рік тому
I think he is an amazing artist. ❤
@HarbindBrar 3 роки тому
This was certainly educating and entertaining. I would love to see more from this series and this reporter!
@PhilipJasionowski 3 роки тому
Art is crazy cause it really comes down to how much people THINK something is worth. Not how much it actually takes to produce etc etc
@852internationalconnect 3 роки тому
Same with stocks, sneakers, watches, Pokemon cards..everything rare and collectable piece has a value determined by how people value it
@ninjafruitchilled 3 роки тому
That's how the value of anything works, including money itself. Anything is only worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
@EchoBravo370 3 роки тому
@@852internationalconnect Not really. THINGS like watches and sneakers have raw materials and labor figured into the cost. A piece of art is just the canvas and the paints....and the sky is the limit.
@852internationalconnect 3 роки тому
@@EchoBravo370my comment was about perceived value not cost. A Rolex Date 42 just is worth around 1 k in material cost but is valued at 12 k. Ofc the real value is alrdy priced within thats how price calculation works but upcharges are ridicolous
@kharmastreams8319 Рік тому
Pretty sure a lot of the value is inflated for tax exempts for the very rich 🙂 It's pretty much a closed system controlled by all the people profiting from keeping the values artificially inflated imho 🙂
@oooCoffeeboyooo Рік тому
These two lads are incredible, there'd be film here for sure.
@christophernoto Рік тому
Hahaha! Bravo, you! Such a nice little video. It almost could have passed for a Ken Burns! 🔥❤🔥❤🔥
@battdamon4517 3 роки тому
Great episode and and great chemistry between the presenter and the chaps. Really enjoyed this.
@KittyKatJoy 3 роки тому
these guys are cleverly and skillfully undermining the elitist and pretentious "high" art scene, I could get behind that.
@dazuk1969 3 роки тому
That last line cracked me up "i encouraged him to keep forging".....Mint.
@Alexandra_Wolf 2 роки тому
People always say regarding art it’s easy to modern judge art, and say “it’s easy to say that, if it’s so easy why aren’t you doing it?” This man has the talent to make art, even replicates are difficult to do. Good for him. As long as he’s not cheating people currently. People should be putting art on their walls, not crap from homegoods and ikea. Collecting actual art is accumulating something of value. There are websites where you can hit on works that are affordable. It has increased my love for interior design and life in general.
@azizkash286 3 роки тому
I hope vice's documentaries can stay at this level consistently
@ayayron7776 3 роки тому
*Finally you guys are back to some normal great content*
@vishalratmele 3 роки тому
When he said "sometimes i do two or three picassos because its not that difficult" it was so funny and so true !! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@foreleftyall 3 роки тому
i’d love a series on art world shenanigans feat these three. would be so entertaining
@slavemoney 3 роки тому
Forge on, brother!
@BillNicholsTV 3 роки тому
This was a great episode
@xavierfranco5800 Рік тому
I LOVE this girl's voice.
@ellegaitor2887 3 роки тому
Surely if they can paint to that standard they deserve to be known as artists in their own right.
@mattdecker8724 3 роки тому
Of course they do, only pretentious art snobs would think otherwise.
@broluxgigantos89 3 роки тому
a copy machine is not art
@mattdecker8724 3 роки тому
@@broluxgigantos89 A copy machine can only make prints not paintings
@broluxgigantos89 3 роки тому
@@mattdecker8724 A forger is a human copy machine, they do not create art...if you ...lets say state art is a form of expression by the artist
@mattdecker8724 3 роки тому
@@broluxgigantos89 That’s only your opinion, not an objective fact.
@waqy009 3 роки тому
I just started binge watching White collar and I'm on season 4 and too see this pop-up 🤣 madness
@geneleoneii3013 3 роки тому
Great show!
@filipesrubio4015 Рік тому
Im happy Big Lez has finally found his passion
@76-UVB Рік тому
I love their perspective
@happybeetz 3 роки тому
"how did the nails get like that?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SunnyOnTheInside 3 роки тому
Damn. I wish I could get the same kind of medical diagnostic care afforded these paintings.
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