My Viewers VOTED on the Treaty of Versailles!
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@possiblehistory 3 місяці тому
Sorry for the slight decline in visual quality, will be back up next upload (made a mistake in my editor)
@stargazer-elite 3 місяці тому
I see no difference your videos are always great 👍
@danielsantiagourtado3430 3 місяці тому
No problem
@ziggo_pro 3 місяці тому
How do you not talk about the viewers in a viewers scenario
@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV 3 місяці тому
Didn't see anything, also, is there someway to get those empty maps? That would be really fun to play around with. Possibily even with my friends if I manage to coerce them into doing that with me. Alvast dankjewel. Fijne dag!
@Salt_and_Peroxide 3 місяці тому
hm
@ZDavvi 3 місяці тому
When i think reality is sad, i remember it could be ran by possible history's viewers
@wow-roblox8370 3 місяці тому
But. Austria Hungary should have been given all of Africa!
@FishwicksREAL 3 місяці тому
This timeline so based.
@the_roman_emperor_fisheater 3 місяці тому
@@wow-roblox8370 no denmark should have been given all of austria hungary and then we give all of africa to Liechtenstein
@DEIKO19 3 місяці тому
@@the_roman_emperor_fisheaterBASED
@azlanadil3646 3 місяці тому
@@FishwicksREAL *is so based. You forgot the “is”.
@Ultimate_Silicium 3 місяці тому
When I'm in a drawing catastrophic borders competition and my opponents are the Europeans in 1900 and the Potential History Viewers:
@lecake9217 3 місяці тому
Possible History viewers when they can't destroy Austria-Hungary and and make Megali Greece
@danielyoutubechannel407 3 місяці тому
you should look up a map of the HRE
@MD.Akib_Al_Azad 3 місяці тому
@@danielyoutubechannel407that was just because of feudalism, no treaty made it that way, most Kingdoms were like that, the HRE just stayed like that
@urienrheged6636 3 місяці тому
Prussia just appearing in Southern East Prussia looks like something from a Hoi4 Peace Conference
@averagetachyonlanceenjoyer1129 3 місяці тому
When you don't have enough war score, so western and southern germany becomes French puppet, central becomes democratic, Konigsberg becomes Commie Germany as soviet puppet, and small N*zi Germany is left on Baltic shore (happened to me)
@AzuraCodeUltimate2004 3 місяці тому
"The Independent Democratic State of Prussia has been liberated." "746952 Equipment seized"
@canadianbaconeer3857 3 місяці тому
This entire treaty feels like a HOI4 game with historical accuracy turned off
@AzuraCodeUltimate2004 3 місяці тому
@@canadianbaconeer3857 This video is an great example on why you should never play without Player Led Peace Conferences-
@minefoxc4015 3 місяці тому
@@averagetachyonlanceenjoyer1129just that? I had 8 different Germanies after all players finished with the peace. Austria was fascist Italian, Bavaria was neutral, the Rhine was communist French, Westphalia was democratic American, Hanover was neutral British, Saxony was democratic Czech (yes they had survived to the end), Silesia was democratic independent, Prussia was communist Soviet and Hitler actually stayed in control of Brandeburg. Then there was the cursed Soviet Lithuania Memel strip, Kashubia with no leader, and Canadian Holstein territory.
@cringeyguides8047 3 місяці тому
Worst part of this- Latvia is the only Baltic state left 😭😭
@Jnzyyps 3 місяці тому
Yes bro, we lithuanians don't wanna be polish 😂
@stanisawzokiewski3308 3 місяці тому
@@Jnzyyps it’s a partnership 🤝
@Jnzyyps 3 місяці тому
@@stanisawzokiewski3308 tf you mean partnership, we got annaxed not willfully unified
@SolidifiedMercury 3 місяці тому
That’s cause Latvia is on top 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
@cringeyguides8047 3 місяці тому
@@SolidifiedMercury So true 🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻
@Shaveyle 3 місяці тому
If PH’s viewers did something like this in real life, there would already be WW5 😳
@veryfunnydoge7045 3 місяці тому
PH could mean 2 things here! 😅
@BrandonThePika 3 місяці тому
I think you underestimate the viewers power to make the worst border decisions.
@merengueatang4 3 місяці тому
I disagree. By now, we would be in the middle of a nuclear winter.
@ethanmcdonald420 3 місяці тому
@@merengueatang4 That implies we don't cause civilizational collapse before nuclear weapons are developed
@lye-kf2ho 3 місяці тому
@@merengueatang4 *the eighth nuclear winter
@ahmadfabhli4133 3 місяці тому
The Japanese military command widened their eyes with shocked and awe after the entente given them basically the entirety of steppes after attacking some random and unknown German port in the pacific
@Lucas.Blevins 3 місяці тому
Hahahaha
@mekolayn 3 місяці тому
Japan didn't even had any score but France and the UK saw that they were in a peace deal and gave them random stuff they didn't know what to do with
@chimera9818 3 місяці тому
You could view it has the west oversimplified Asia and just give everything to the stablest Asian state
@eidoneverchoosen1171 3 місяці тому
The good thing is Japan is investing in the land army not a large giant navy to attack the United states at Pearl harbor and with their vassals stretching all the way to west the USA May not embor Japan only cause Japan just has equal resources. So long as Japan leaves the USA my country they can have their.empire in Asia.
@AlkalineandAcid 3 місяці тому
The Europeans overcompensated trying to create abulwark against Russian Asian ambitions that they accidentally made Japan a great power.
@frederri2968 3 місяці тому
who voted for this, this treaty is insane
@darrylbonner7208 3 місяці тому
It got my vote
@ruin8891 3 місяці тому
@@darrylbonner7208You will be persecuted
@darrylbonner7208 3 місяці тому
@@ruin8891 live and learn right? :)
@manofculture4249 3 місяці тому
My bad g
@Raymuk 3 місяці тому
me
@TheOneAndOnlyEali 3 місяці тому
Congrats! Your viewers are now the most wanted people in Austria.
@leMiG31 3 місяці тому
please dont hunt me down i voted for a greater austria
@Wendeta-hq2cp 3 місяці тому
@@leMiG31 I voted for an Austrian-German union without the Sudetanland to please nationalism and ensure Czechoslovakia has defensible borders.
@TheOneAndOnlyEali 3 місяці тому
Whose idea was it to give Tyrol to goddamn Switzerland
@Austenthor 3 місяці тому
@@leMiG31I voted to keep the empire together as much as I could
@Kromiball 3 місяці тому
I didn't vote
@4n0m113 3 місяці тому
I (a swedish person) am personally really happy with this outcome, but everything else is a litteral nightmare
@LP-pi7uz 3 місяці тому
As a Serb, I potentionally agree, there is posibillity that there wouldn't be bad blood between religions in western parts of greater Serbia and bigger issue would be Macedonia with Bulgarian irredentists in this paralel universe.
@historyman9436 3 місяці тому
@@LP-pi7uzYeah as a non balkan, that whole ordeal kinda doesnt even seem too bad imo. Everyone has what they absolutely want. Sure, alot of nationalities certainly want more, some more justifiably so than others, but looking at the whole of europe, the balkans are by far the normalest place. Meanwhile Gdynia and Schleswig-Holstein... (seriously tho, why the fuck did poland get lithuania if they already have naval access via gdynia? kinda defeats the purpose imo)
@Zelgah 3 місяці тому
As a Finn this outcome is a nightmare for us. Japan, Greece and Mongolia are Nice though
@4n0m113 3 місяці тому
@@Zelgah It's not all bad, just that Finland is back to being in the right country (Jk)
@LP-pi7uz 3 місяці тому
@@historyman9436 Danzig should have been connected to Germany by land,that's for certain. Idk what to say about the rest of Prussia though. Btw united Caucaus is easy bite for Turkey and Russia,maybe even Iran. Iran could annex Azerbaijan and unite Azeris under their control.
@GusThePrankster 3 місяці тому
I love that this video actually has a story behind it instead of just “they voted this”
@Saulgud23 3 місяці тому
As much as he trie to make sense of these votes, some of them are completely ludicrous
@MD.Akib_Al_Azad 3 місяці тому
@@Saulgud23like Sudeten to Austria but not Tyrol
@Princessviolet-hl7uu 3 місяці тому
Well done guys, you’ve successfully set up world peace I can’t see anything going wrong in the future😂
@evangamer5752 3 місяці тому
I know right
@shoebkhaja3697 3 місяці тому
Me too how could this cause conflict
@myri_the_weirdo 3 місяці тому
No you don't understand, peace has never been my priority
@eidoneverchoosen1171 3 місяці тому
The European civilians especially the Germans are going to be outraged of the unfair treaty and land partition.
@lewycraft 3 місяці тому
Funnily enough, this treaty did improved peace perspective for Eastern Europe a lot. Poles and Ukrainians as allies instead of 1 nations opressing the other, lack of industrial powerhouse of USSR with weaker Russian Empire etc. This Eastern Europe have much better perspective for itself.
@kevinboros7427 3 місяці тому
So this is why Plato hated democracy.
@mist5992 3 місяці тому
You know somethings gone wrong when the best borders are in the balkans and Africa
@eidoneverchoosen1171 3 місяці тому
At least the Africans colonies remain mostly the same.
@dougfowler1368 3 місяці тому
Viewers at Versailles: "Best solution? Turn back the clock to before madness started." Sweden: Gets 1808 borders. Poland: Gets something like 1st partition borders, maybe 2nd with Germany. Mongolia: Gets to start rebuilding Mongol Empire. Austria: looks like scattered tribes around 200 AD just outside Roman provinces.
@Chase92488 3 місяці тому
*throat singing intensifies*
@user-rt2ix1dt1r 3 місяці тому
Do not forget Greece, which becomes something like the Byzatine Empire before 1204
@tompatterson1548 3 місяці тому
I tried to make massive Ukraine
@cosmosyn2514 3 місяці тому
before i saw the big mongolia i thought you were talking about hungary
@willblack7353 3 місяці тому
If you think Italy was pissed about the treaty of Versaille in OTL, you couldn't imagine how pissed Russia would be here. "Let's ensure the creation of a Moscow-Berlin Axis, by molesting two countries which both have a bit of an anti-semitism problem" - PH viewers
@tenshihinanawi4546 3 місяці тому
nahhh, PH viewers punish Russia just because of war in Ukraine
@derevianne1108 3 місяці тому
it would be funny to still see some communists in this russia as a cameo lol
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 місяці тому
Haveing partisipated in the voting it could have been alot worse for both... I voted it give as much land to Russia and Germany as possible. I knew the former was doomed, but the latter still had hope.
@tompatterson1548 3 місяці тому
In the 1910s Germany was much less antisemitic than France.
@tompatterson1548 3 місяці тому
@@matthiuskoenig3378I voted to expand Ukraine to the Caspian.
@wires-sl7gs 3 місяці тому
When it comes to videos like this, I like to imagine some eldritch force influencing the minds of the diplomats and leaders and forcing them to make something like this, and then just leaving the world with the consequences.
@darrylbonner7208 3 місяці тому
Nan, it's God just doing a bit of trolling
@gabriellopezcollantes1027 Місяць тому
@@darrylbonner7208 Those two things aren't mutualy exclusive :)))))))
@megakillerx 3 місяці тому
Something tells me that a certain ex-painter WILL be able to seize power in either Bavaria or Germany around the early 1920’s.
@Chase92488 3 місяці тому
while reading your comment, a geometry dash video where the player was funny mustache man appeared in my recommended
@ghostramen7002 3 місяці тому
Damn, I thought the kaiserboos were gonna pull through and stop German bordergore.
@_Hamler 3 місяці тому
Byzantium too stronk
@kaidenhall2718 3 місяці тому
We failed
@ahmadfabhli4133 3 місяці тому
Honestly they did a pretty good job to at least ensure that Germany are still united because I really thought that the viewers will vote to carved up Germany into a couple of new states
@gengarzilla1685 3 місяці тому
Nah, it looked like they've been completely dwarfed by the Byzantiboos this time.
@mekolayn 3 місяці тому
Who's stronger? Big Germany fans vs German bordergore fans
@yeeyee5057 3 місяці тому
Never let PH viewers cook 💀💀💀
@JohnJohnson-zt3bv 3 місяці тому
🍊⬛️
@meme-potentialsearch8010 3 місяці тому
Armenia kinda bad though
@oliverreinisch704 3 місяці тому
Nah, let us cook. We always guarantee the most peaceful post-war borders.
@LittleFunnyCanadian 3 місяці тому
Bro I tried to do it historically 😭
@cosmosyn2514 3 місяці тому
@@oliverreinisch704peace resulting from everyone being dead.
@DJ-fl4gn 3 місяці тому
I know these videos aren't meant to be taken seriously, but they do serve as a useful reminder about how much more complicated history is in reality. Versailles has become the butt of jokes, and is now just universally accepted as being the cause of WW2 (highly debatable in my view, but I digress). But when you look at it more closely, you quickly realize that we all probably wouldn't have done much better.
@_kitaes_ 3 місяці тому
yeah, it was caused by weimar republic incompetence and italy not getting what they want
@BogBilberryBagginsAGD 3 місяці тому
Not really. The reason these videos go the way they do is that the people voting on decisions aren't interacting with each other, which means that parts of everyone's individual visions get merged together to form the ungodly abominations that we get to enjoy here
@paradoxicaloutcome1007 3 місяці тому
@@BogBilberryBagginsAGD A lot of people also don't take it as seriously as they probably would if they were really sitting down to negotiate the fate of a continent and not just voting on a funny map video. Most of the more illogical choices would get a lot less votes if those choices had potential consequences to real life.
@eidoneverchoosen1171 3 місяці тому
The treaty and any alternative treaty and land partition would be always seen by Europeans civilains as unfair. Then they would revolt, riot, probably become communists or listen to angry ultra nationalists leaders claiming they were cheated and they are going to get their revenge.
@noahengelstad1253 3 місяці тому
PH viewers: Let us Balkanize all of Europe! There is no way this could ever go wrong…
@BrandonThePika 3 місяці тому
I loved the intro being in a classroom.
@kristiancusack7355 3 місяці тому
Me: What was the largest cause of ww2? Modern Hindsight: Overly punishing treats made after ww1. Viewers: OK... But... What if we did it to everyone? Then everyone will get their own pet mustache wielder and we can see what happens. 0.0
@bellandzoey 3 місяці тому
Suddenly the Co-Prosperity Sphere isn't sounding too bad to join lol
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 місяці тому
To he fair the racist Japanese only got into power later, and might not gene come to power in this timeline. Japan might even stay a stable democratic state in this timelin
@bellandzoey 3 місяці тому
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I love the idea of a Japan that adopts an imperial democracy
@lewycraft 3 місяці тому
Im pretty damn sure, that in this timeline, with larger focuse on mainland Asia, Japan may actually invite PLC into Co-Prosperity Sphere, instead of joing the Axis. After all, both states are enemies of Russia here.
@AlkalineandAcid 3 місяці тому
@@bellandzoeyPossible History at the Japan part seems to be alluding to Japan not attempting to subvert the European powers in Asia but rather focusing on mainland Asia in the follow-up video. Perhaps their different ambitions in this timeline lead to a different imperial ideology controlling the government?
@ertatortiro9801 3 місяці тому
As an italian I see this as an absolute win
@theoddslovenian 3 місяці тому
and as a slovene i see this as a absolute lose.. i mean loosing trst? and uniting with Hr*at???!?!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@user-vq4yz5nn2q 3 місяці тому
As a Greek, I concur.
@Swagman12 3 місяці тому
as a swede i also agree
@fnafhakkindabilgiler00 3 місяці тому
@@Swagman12 As a Turk it is definiletly ridicolous (I don't talking about Sweeden. I guess sweeden is okay but Türkiye?! All of the anatolia is turkish maority.
@TheLucky24-pk9gj 3 місяці тому
Well at that time the western coast of Anatolia had Greek Majorities
@jeskler 3 місяці тому
This video is a fantastic example of why random people on the internet shouldn't be allowed anywhere near internal or foreign policy decisions
@solelak 3 місяці тому
What? You have an issue with the diplomatic genius of making an arbitrary bavarian state? Truly a stroke of mastery.
@gengarzilla1685 2 місяці тому
Said independent Bavarian state being cut out from Germany did prevent the angry painter from getting his way so I do need to give the viewers a point for this scenario.
@jcaesar6017 18 днів тому
Then Germany would be Communist since KPD/ML wouldn't have to compete with Nazi anymore
@vaclavcicha6939 3 місяці тому
Imagine fighting in the whole siberia and returning home as a czechoslovak legionair in 1920 just to see this Czechoslovakia
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 місяці тому
Not so bad, all of the actual Czech and Slovak lands are in it. It's just not a petty empire like the orginal timeline.
@cosmosyn2514 3 місяці тому
if the whites won the RCW would they need to go the long way through siberia though?
@vaclavcicha6939 3 місяці тому
@@cosmosyn2514 I think that the RCW was still going on when the last legionaires returned.
@herewego7694 3 місяці тому
having indefensible, ahistorical borders, being stripped of their industry, yeah this would not be acceptable at all This is your brain on nation-statism
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 місяці тому
@@herewego7694 ahistorical borders? At that time the entire concept of Czechislovakia was ahistorical borders. And the entire justification for an independant Czechislovakia is nationalism, you can't defend the creation of it AND support borders made not along national lines {atleast not without undermining the position of Czech independence by being a massive hypocrite}.
@shadowplayz2432 3 місяці тому
possible history viewers change of not screwing over Russia in every viewer vote video: 0
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 місяці тому
Hey atleast they are not communist, and novogrod doesn't exist (those were both options)
@Chujoi0 3 місяці тому
It could’ve been worse
@eduardopupucon 3 місяці тому
When you punish russia over something they are still going to do 100 years in the future
@sdsdfgle 2 місяці тому
@@matthiuskoenig3378 The tsar is worse than Lenin as far as I know
@bobaobob 3 місяці тому
once again possible history viewers have made a peace that is like throwing explosives into burning oil in a room that is made out of bombs
@derevianne1108 3 місяці тому
i mean, it somehow turned kinda well when they voted for the Scramble for Africa
@MD.Akib_Al_Azad 3 місяці тому
@@derevianne1108yeah, everything to Austria and Portugal, perfect peace in our time
@TheMemer397 3 місяці тому
Even in an alternate WWI peace deal, Portugal STILL gets nothing but a giant decrease of stability from the war
@verurx9388 3 місяці тому
It is question from England
@eidoneverchoosen1171 3 місяці тому
I mean the USA isn't geting any new land either. Maybe more money and trade opportunities but then again britian and the USA have bad relations now so the USA will probably take Canada away from Britian.
@gengarzilla1685 3 місяці тому
Perils of your only mainland neighbour, Spain, wisely choosing neutrality. If they'd joined the Central Powers then I'm sure Galicia could have been on the table for Portugal.
@khio9017 3 місяці тому
Truly beautiful austrian borders
@Hildur- 3 місяці тому
Austrian ball and chain, Czechoslovak snake, Polish-Lithuanian anchor and Romanian whatever-it-is
@cosmosyn2514 3 місяці тому
@@Hildur-pac man
@The_Remembered 3 місяці тому
Possible history viewers making the worst border changes possible:
@ethancantwell8549 3 місяці тому
It's impressive how badly the map was ruined. Really I think the viewers deserve a pat on the back for a good days work. Also I think long Greece is funny.
@TheHunterOfYharnam 3 місяці тому
As a Greek i would rather have Cyprus and more land in western anatolia than that weak long stretch. Perhaps a thicker independent Pontus that isn't connected yet to Greece proper would be preferable to that awful map sin
@crpse-qf6rh 3 місяці тому
the greeks wouldn't last honestly how could they hold those borders XD
@TheHunterOfYharnam 3 місяці тому
@@crpse-qf6rhThe ones in the video maybe not because the thin line in the black sea would fall easily. The rest would be fine. The borders i suggested were great and Greece would probably both hold them and expand them further in my scenario
@crpse-qf6rh 3 місяці тому
@@TheHunterOfYharnam okay okay, imagine the greeks holding off the Turks is there also a scenario where they wouldn't go radical cs it seems like losing western anatolia garantees Turkish radicalism?
@TheHunterOfYharnam 3 місяці тому
@@crpse-qf6rh They would just deport them and rehellenize the regions completly, they already had large greek population. What do you mean by turkish radicalism? they already commited genocides ect ect they never changed in their history. The only difference in this scenario would be that Greece would be stronger and turkey would be way weaker
@oliverreinisch704 3 місяці тому
On behalf of Sweden thanks a lot for Finland and Estonia. Even if almost every other part of the peace deal was cursed.
@Theophily 3 місяці тому
Man… Nicholas made it back to the throne but for how long? Sucks to be him right now.
@mobglare_ 3 місяці тому
As a hungarian, this peace deal is way better for us
@zoltanperei4789 3 місяці тому
When they use common sense to draw borders.
@eidoneverchoosen1171 3 місяці тому
Though I'm sure the other Hungarians upon discovery how the treaty turned out will probably feel they were cheated and that their country deserves more for being part of Austria for centuries.
@gengarzilla1685 3 місяці тому
Being lighter than OTL Trianon is not a tall order, really. I consider that one more punishing than the Versailles treaty which Germany cried about.
@beepbop6542 3 місяці тому
Yeah, well the only requirement was: Don't completely butcher the only nation that tried to stop the war.
@herewego7694 3 місяці тому
all of your neighbours would despise you lmao
@omayaki5264 3 місяці тому
To be fair, I think the balkans are a region where it's impossible to make everybody happy, especially post ww1 because there were just way too many different ambitions. Pretty much everything else is really crazy, though!
@kniviritsyn 3 місяці тому
PH viewers: >Expands Greece so far into Anatolia that them and Turkey will _have_ to go to war in the next couple of decades >Grants Japan massive pieces of land in remote parts of Russia (the two cultures will totally get along) >Prepares a 4th Polish partition by making Poland bigger than both Germany and Austria, while also annexing a large part of Belarus >BIG ITALY (they're SO politically stable during this time)
@larry417 3 місяці тому
2 minutes in and this is a certified possible history moment
@sandwichtyranny 3 місяці тому
We- we voted on this map?
@999mi999 3 місяці тому
So let me get this straight, the people watching this channel legitimately believe that after years of brutal war, this would be in any way fair for Romania and Serbia?
@jonC1208 3 місяці тому
Serbia should get the croatian state, but romania only got steamroaled so after loosing getting land in 2 directions is pretty good, also, spoiler, in ww2 they accepted those borders
@Eltipoquevisteayer 3 місяці тому
YES
@hsdiamond2113 3 місяці тому
the people think it'd make a fun video and would see how PH would make it work
@JahmazeJahmaze 3 місяці тому
No, we just want to destroy the world as many times and as much as possible.
@romanian_thief 3 місяці тому
@@jonC1208 the legionary government, and especially Antonescu, were a bunch of German meatriders and accepted it because Germany said so. also, serbia got steamrolled too. disrespectfully, shut up
@TheStarryCat-ye5ry 3 місяці тому
The viewers are just writing plot for their next 7 other world wars.
@greenknightofwar7024 3 місяці тому
Me: Oh great another Possible History video, I wonder what it is? Chat: I just wanna set the world on fire.
@idioticbuffoon8960 3 місяці тому
The treaty of versailles if crack existed in 1919
@ceenotes9711 3 місяці тому
truly peace for our time. i foresee no major wars breaking out over this perfect borders.
@Dark_jirachi 3 місяці тому
As a Swiss, finally we gained something from Versailles XD
@verurx9388 3 місяці тому
+ еще одна причина вас распилить в WW2
@Dark_jirachi 3 місяці тому
@@verurx9388 Wtf, i don’t speak Russian
@gengarzilla1685 3 місяці тому
Thanks to that thin border strip clearly designed to separate two great powers, Switzerland is now the European Afghanistan.
@Airland-xx3pr 3 місяці тому
@@gengarzilla1685But is wealthy and full of fertile mountains and development.
@fkz0303 3 місяці тому
nah bro we dont want tyrol, that sounds like a nightmare. Vorarlberg is cool tho
@vaultboy1469 3 місяці тому
This peacedeal is a WW2 any % speedrun
@garythemoth8049 3 місяці тому
Honestly I'd like to see a video where YOU make the treaty of Versailles, and what you'd fix it to keep the balance in europe
@matijastanivukovic8744 3 місяці тому
The voters really have something personal with Russia💀💀💀
@kxmapper 3 місяці тому
The whole world has, we don't really complain though
@matijastanivukovic8744 3 місяці тому
@@kxmapper It be interesting to see this Russia become like a proto fascist monarchy that tries to conquer its territories back.
@kxmapper 3 місяці тому
@@matijastanivukovic8744 I believe this is already implemented in some kind of hoi4 mod
@tombassett 3 місяці тому
anyone come here after that Josh Sullivan History video?
@kingdomofgenevamapping 3 місяці тому
we truly live in a society
@Ksescel 3 місяці тому
Yeah that was the dumbest thing I’ve heard this week
@Nn91. 3 місяці тому
yea the controversy is kinda crappy and by crappy i mean Josh’s argument
@robnicholson3402 3 місяці тому
Idk who's side to be on Edit: nvm I'm on ph side
@breaderikthegreat3224 3 місяці тому
Literally every map, which lets Viewers determine borders, has Greece being as big as possible
@Aprettysillyguyreal 3 місяці тому
Is it me or do these alt versailles always make Bavaria independent
@carmi7042 3 місяці тому
Not intended as part of the treaty but in our timeline Bavaria actually tried to secede under a communist govermnent
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 місяці тому
I wouldn't say bavaria tried to secede. There were 2 radical communist movements in bavaria that all rebeled and fought each other and a less radical socialist rebellion that desided to side with the freikorps against the radicals. The less radical socialist bavaria won and then integrated into weimar Germany. Under pressure from the people. In other words the secessionists were a minority and were never unified.
@cpMetis 3 місяці тому
Every single time I thought "Oh, awesome they did that!" it was immediately followed by "WAIT WHAT NO NOT LIKE THAT"
@PakBallandSami 3 місяці тому
Possible History: i present *a video about the treaty of versailles* ME: this is like the hundredth time you have made a video the treaty of versailles
@Haasthimself 3 місяці тому
Im starting to think PH's viewers have never heard of the concept of ethnic maps
@ErickTriton 3 місяці тому
They did when it comes to Hungary and Austria
@Haasthimself 3 місяці тому
@@ErickTriton eh no, Crișana is majority Romanian and so is everything outside Szekelyfold, so they hogged everything up except the right areas
@gengarzilla1685 2 місяці тому
The majority Romanian area was clearly just to avoid a disgusting Hungarian enclave deep in Romania. That's even more unmanageable than the Austrian Sudetenland when considering the tensions between Romanians and Hungarians.
@zoltanperei4789 3 місяці тому
As a hungarian i must say this ending for Hungary makes much more sense than the real one we actually got.
@tpalmer4757 3 місяці тому
anyone else here after seeing josh sullivan history's uncalled for video on PH?
@ivorycxxxx 3 місяці тому
I am here after seeing his fairly logical video yes.
@Simon_the_penguin 3 місяці тому
@@ivorycxxxxshut up mein Bruv it wasn’t that deep
@user-uu8bg7zj9k 3 місяці тому
@@ivorycxxxxfairly logical? What planet are you on?
@TigreDientesDesable663 3 місяці тому
@@ivorycxxxx "fairly logical" Man, your so funny :D
@danielsantiagourtado3430 3 місяці тому
Suggestion: What if charles VI (HRE) Sons survived and there was no war of austrian succession
@Airland-xx3pr 3 місяці тому
No UK no happy ending no protestants Spain hegemon.
@w.n2425 3 місяці тому
Me *Sees Thumbnail* My Brain: Switzerpeak
@Gamey4831 3 місяці тому
So glad this vid finally came out, great as always!
@helenos_152 3 місяці тому
Ok everyone, who leaked our HOI4 Great War Redux multiplayer game????
@simulacrumpilot2777 3 місяці тому
Crusader LARPers giving all of that in Anatolia to Greece even though aside from İzmir/Smyrna all of those regions being Turkish majority doesn't suprise me one bit. In this timeline Greeks will most likely complete the ethnic cleansing campaigns they started during the First Balkan War. Alternate history viewers Byzantine boner is probably second only to the German Empire fanboyness in their obnoxiousness.
@dogecreeper_1734 3 місяці тому
Least nationalist turk
@simulacrumpilot2777 3 місяці тому
@@dogecreeper_1734 I didn't say a single nationalistic thing in that comment you bot.
@VBeh 3 місяці тому
This is not actually true, Samsum, Siran, Maçka were all majority Greek. There were several cities and areas that were majority Greek. However, I do agree that overall in the region level in most cases they were majority turkish. There will definetely be ethnic cleansing though. Both from the Greeks Armenians and the Remenant Turkish Republic.
@simulacrumpilot2777 3 місяці тому
@@VBeh There were some individual cities that were Greek majority but no regions overall. Not Pontus, not Marmara , not anywhere except some parts of Western Anatolia mostly centering around Smyrna/İzmir. Also who is the remnant Turkish Government gonna ethnically cleanse? Do they even have anyone to ethnically cleanse in this timeline? Like I can only think of the Cappadocian Greeks and they numbered around a few thousand at best. A community so tiny most people don't even know they exist. If I had to make a guess like I said before Greece would continue the ethnic cleansing policies they started during First Balkan War and the remnant Turkish state would most likely get extremely radicalized due to it.
@VBeh 3 місяці тому
About 100.000 Greeks, 25k Konya and 75k sivas based on the Ottoman Census. The Census is consider to have down played the size of Orthodox populations so 100k is a conservative estimate with the actual size being inbetween 100-200k
@Vasilis_Rant. 3 місяці тому
I (as a greek guy) think that the buffer zone ,Greece got in Bulgaria will end up be given back or the bulgarians will take it by force. Btw,great job,at coming up with history for every change in the map and for your narration keep the great job
@patrikmodrovsky1842 3 місяці тому
yes, many of this borders would change really fast, Czechoslovakia would regain Sudetenland and South Slovakia easily, especially with support of Russia
@TheHunterOfYharnam 3 місяці тому
I don't think that the bulgarians would be able to beat Greece
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 місяці тому
@patrikmodrovsky1842 no they would not, no support from the locals and the great powers supporting the defenders.
@cosmosyn2514 3 місяці тому
@@matthiuskoenig3378i doubt the great powers would much care about the losers losing more land, especially when this is by far not going to be the only war resulting from the treaty. in addition the whites winning the civil war would mean the czechoslovak legion there wouldnt need to take the long way around, and can serve as reinforcements. thats not to say i see it likely that czechoslovakia can take *all* of the sudetenland, but probably some of it.
@patrikmodrovsky1842 3 місяці тому
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I doubt they would really support them
@itszilo7436 3 місяці тому
I’ll never call the actual Treaty of Versailles bad ever again
@LubuskieBall 3 місяці тому
Me Too
@leserb9228 3 місяці тому
Never let the viewers cook again please
@Jurok999 3 місяці тому
nah this aint even that bad, ive seen worst from hoi ai, we need MORE bordergore :D
@verurx9388 3 місяці тому
Топ 5 новых Художников! : Русский художник! Турецкий художник! Польский художник! Баварский художник! Румынский художник!
@mmqaaq504 3 місяці тому
There is no fanbase on youtube that needs a betterhelp sponsor more than Possible History viewers.
@julius879 3 місяці тому
4:02 I am absolutely certain many Hungarians would still not be happy with that arrangement
@user-oy8bf2jn3l 3 місяці тому
Yes
@gengarzilla1685 2 місяці тому
Hungarians and Romanians will never be satisfied with any Transylvanian arrangement unless one side gets all of it at the total expense of the other. It's a mess. Pleasing both of them is a futile waste of time.
@danielsantiagourtado3430 3 місяці тому
Love these videos! You're the Best 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
@lewycraft 3 місяці тому
The funniest thing? Poland ends up waaaay more stable in this timeline than in actuall real one XD. Ukrainian opression is significantly smaller due to allience between the two nations, Lithuania is seen as an equel in the Union, so Polish-Lithuanian relations can be much better. And less Ruthenian lands, means less drastic split on Poland A and B. Basicly all is better for this Poland XD.
@JoseLuiz-nl3gq 3 місяці тому
How to make an ww2 speedrun lol
@t-brick3752 3 місяці тому
viewers try to make good peace deal challenge (impossible)
@user-yc6px3wj7l 3 місяці тому
This is basically the viewers: 90 % Nationalists that try to have their country expand as much as possible and think that they mostly balance Europe except for a lot of radical changes. 9 %: People that want Europe to burn. 0.03 %: People that want to balance Europe.
@floor737 3 місяці тому
Ok, but I vote for a «what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario» (Please do a what of everything went perfect for Norway scenario)
@ryanfarrelly4647 3 місяці тому
Norway keeps Iceland, the islands in between, Greenland and Vinland/parts of Canada maybe unites with Scotland or take Scottish Isles?
@noytelinu3409 3 місяці тому
And yet it was still better than tha Alternate History UKposts treaty that saw WW2 started over the middle east.
@gengarzilla1685 2 місяці тому
Somehow, yes, you're right.
@Maks_Oniszk 3 місяці тому
Wow i ve been waiting for this for so long glad its finally here
@Rainer-fw7fd 3 місяці тому
Can't wait to see the mess we caused
@derevianne1108 3 місяці тому
i liked it when the teacher started to ask their students to subscribe
@muhammadhabibieamiro3639 3 місяці тому
I have been looking forward for this video
@Julianist 3 місяці тому
Your videos are always great!
@hugo_studio_hay439 3 місяці тому
LATVIA JUST BUILD DIFFERENT!
@JustJ_KK 3 місяці тому
Alternate history choose your own adventure sounds intresting hopefully it release upload after continuation of this vid
@GnHreactions 3 місяці тому
Very happy to see this series come back
@herewego7694 3 місяці тому
ah WW2 speedrun, truly amazing job!
@mescalero_3309 3 місяці тому
I think you should really do a "what if everything went perfect for the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation" Video Ps: I just love watching your videos
@dairyfiend6929 3 місяці тому
I would just like to remind everyone that likely no one voted for this deal. It is the result of several different proposals being initiated at the same time to create what is simply a mess.
@gengarzilla1685 3 місяці тому
Honestly, fair point. It is quite the patchwork peace deal if that hideously mangled Prussian "state" says anything.
@khronostheavenger8923 3 місяці тому
I leave the vote once and it falls so much deeper into hell than I could've imagined.
@rewriting-history 3 місяці тому
Doctor: You have 14:11 minutes left to live, what do you do? Me:
@Astroo217 3 місяці тому
China looking at Japan's small achievements: 💀
@pudim21221 3 місяці тому
I am sure that with this treaty, peace in Europe was assured. for 3 days.
@Toast_6 2 місяці тому
“Bulgaria keeps Dobruja” What a way to start
@Duck_In_Bread 3 місяці тому
This is definitely the weirdest viewer voting video so far. I can’t wait to see the chaos that this will entail.
@joaogabrielimperial7777 3 місяці тому
13:56 british and japanese creates a anti-american alliance, and due to the war in pacific france is alone in europe
@DitDotDan 3 місяці тому
Biased because I'm British, but essentially we bankrolled the early part of the war so that we gained some of Africa, a bit of the Middle East and some Pacific islands so that we could then have all of Ireland removed from our Kingdom. There is no way Britain remains on good terms with the United States or France. March on London à la Mussolini but with Mosley?
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 місяці тому
Italy is there to help France, maybe.
@anvos658 3 місяці тому
I think you missed the line where thanks to their concessions the Army in Japan won out, meaning this Japan isn't Navally expansionist, and gave up on the idea of fighting for Pacific Naval dominance.
@schwoondoggle 3 місяці тому
Alternate title: "WW2 speedrun"
@Alaska_Protogen 3 місяці тому
germany bouta ascend ultra nationalist and become omega nationalist with this one
@heliogt1961 3 місяці тому
and now i need a cursed HOI4 mod of this peacedeal
@captain_hammer 3 місяці тому
I wonder what the WW2 video is going to be like... I imagine that Italy and Japan are both pretty happy with this peace deal, so maybe the new "Axis" will be Germany, Turkey and Imperial Russia, plus a whole bunch of random Balkan nations?
@theChaosKe 3 місяці тому
Could have split the northern exclaves of the sudetenland between germany and austria to avoid complete border gore imo. Or an independent silesian state if we are already making a south prussian state lol.
@gengarzilla1685 2 місяці тому
A north-south division between Germany and Austria is something I do think about when looking at the Sudetenland borders. Czechoslovakia themselves couldn't manage the Germans, but Austria clearly gets unmanageable administration problems with the whole thing while Germany shouldn't be getting all of it if the intent is to punish them for the war. It's less headache-inducing than trying to split Transylvania between Hungary and Romania anyway.
@glassesmemerman 3 місяці тому
Thus, the HOI4 mod was born.
@luke-nz5du 3 місяці тому
this was amazing