Agreed. The bikes are faster at straights, the cars are faster at cornering, which means no matter who is in front or who is behind they will get stuck behind eachother and will be forced to annoyingly slow down

Steve. I've done a BTG in 8:25 in 1998 on a completely stock 98 Blade. About 3 or 4 years later, when an affordable 170mph Renault Megane could be acquired by an average car driver, it was a pivotal change in how dangerous the Ring has now become. Never again for me, unless we get 'bike only' days.

I can’t imagine going double up on that track or any other! No thanks

exactly, when you ride track, supposed to be safer than the road, not here, a bike is a statistic waiting to happen

In a motorcycle track day : - they don't mix cars and motorcycles - there is multiple level group, so they don't mix experimented people with beginers - if someone has a dangerous behaviour, he will be excluded - it's forbidden to have a passenger This specific track don't seem to care about safety

Yes and no...half these bikers have zero awareness of what's behind them. I mean the guys who are clearly slowing down the Lambo, the Arial atom, the 911 etc....what are they thinking? Have been round the ring in a car and on bike and honestly, looks like the bikes are at fault here. Also taking a pillion and almost getting wiped out? Just dumb. Really, zero sympathy..

@@Alex-dh1mq The responsibility of a safe pass is always on the man behind. It's irrelevant if they have a pretty car or not, in a Track you look forward and take your lines, the others behind you need to pass you in a safe way. No excuses. No sympathy for jerks endangering others.

@@dragonryucr2000 you mean like 3:43 ? Don't make excuses for people just cos they're on two wheels. There's some good riders here, and there are some clueless riders here who are a danger to themselves and others. Same goes for the car drivers.

@@Alex-dh1mq The responsibility of a safe pass relies on the man behind, the person needs to make a safe pass. Regarding if you think the Lambo and the Arial atom are pretty cars. Just because you like the Lambo doesn't mean that the person in front has to let them pass. Second and very importantly this track has Touristenfahrt and trackdays as Felix Vieh #65 mentioned. People can get in and drive or ride just by paying, it's basically an open track for everyone, people even lap with buses, campers and all sort of crazy shit. The majority of people are inexperienced drivers or that only want to have the experience of lapping a legendary track once in their lifetimes. Like all the guys in this video, including the guy in 3:43 and the Lambo and Ariel guys. There are a lot of noobs driving here all the time. The rule still remains, the person behind has to wait until they can make a safe pass, the person in front does not need to be paying attention the person behind, they need to focus on the track. If they want to go to the racing days, they need to take their racing license and go to a specific day. If you have a problem getting your head wrapped around this concept, which you clearly do, go to your local Track and take the safety course they offer for new riders/drivers, they'll be happy to have you, they always are. The only different thing about this track and regular tracks is that German transit rules still apply inside the track and you can even get a ticket.

@@dragonryucr2000 Honest question, and I'm not asking to be a smartass but have you ever ridden or driven around the ring on a touristenfahrten day? Like I've commented on another reply, the rule on this track is that if there is faster traffic around you, then you indicate and move over to the right and let the traffic pass. If you're not aware of that rule, you're a danger to all on the track. If you're not aware of what's in front and what's behind you, you're a danger to all on the track. Touristenfahrten is not a full on race, yes understood, and it's not intentionally for lap times, yet that is what everyone there is doing, and no one is naive to that fact. If you're there just for a sight seeing lap, then that's also fine but don't be a dick and hold up traffic just cos you're in your own world without a care for everyone else. Isn't it dangerous when you're driving on the motorway or highway and someone is there doing 20kph less than the speed limit causing a build up of frustrated drivers bumper to bumper? So then on a racetrack (regardless of touristenfahrten vs trackday... And yes I've done both), a track without speed limits and where people are paying 30eur per lap, and the rules state move to the right if faster traffic behind (just like on the road), you still want to defend the muppets riding around in their own world? Ok mate. Merry Xmas 👍🎅

It almost looked like it was intentional. Of course it wasn’t and it was his lack of skill and panick when he saw he won’t make the corner with that angle and speed

@@richardendresz161 It looks controlled (power slide) and intentional. Which makes it so much worse...

More like attempted murder

The worst part is that instead of aiming for the apex he choses to pass the bike on the outside reducing the bikers exit space.

he should be banned from the track for life.

The real roads are much more dangerous, but yeah, I agree those bimmer drivers are the worst

@@Guyjharrison okay when you drive like this on a real road that is almost like suicide🤔

i wuld like to ride my s1000rr ther but wuldent dare to push it xD

idk if being crazy makes you a hero..

@@bloodhoug82 for sure😅

what a tosser that fella..

Not to mention he tried to overtake on the right. Which is illegal in Germany, illegal in The Netherlands (where he came from) and illegal during TF.

@@qers good point

if you look at his hands he steers into the bike aswell

Looks more like he's swerving to avoid running into the back of the bike because he didn't expect the biker to brake that much for the corner.

Eh, It's an Africa Twin. It was practically designed for those conditions.

Look at the bright side .. he probably has the whole track for himself xD

@@LaniakeaDenizen Amen.

@@LaniakeaDenizen No bike is designed for hail.

@blackmore6468 It's all about the mindset hahaha.

Because it's long and not shitty 500m long gocart track where you cannot even utilize.20% of ur machine

@@testplmnb There are a lot bigger, wider and longer race tracks in Europe, than Hockenheim, my friend. It shows that you´ve never been on any track obviously.

I havent been

@@stevehislop hockenheim is 4,5 km and a pretty decent track to start with. Sachsenring is less than 4 km. Oschersleben is pretty much like Sachsenring. So I don't get why you've mentioned hockenheim when it comes to short racetracks?!

@@FreZzaaa Shall we now delve into the definition of what a short track is, compared with the Nürburgring?Answer: pretty much every track is. And anybody who has raced in Brno (15mtr wide and 5,4km long) before and then races in Hockenheim (8,5mtr wide) will agree, that it is tiny in comparison.There is a difference of 23 seconds between both tracks lap records, just to give you a hint. Oschersleben is only 3,7km , but has almost the identical track record (1:13min) as Hockenheim. Comparing tracks is difficult and anything you can lap in about a minute is a "short" track. My original point was, that it is a dumb idea to go to the Nürburgring to learn how to go fast, when there are so many easy and safe tracks in Europe to start with and where totalling your equipment isn´t so likely. Do you think my statement is wrong? If so, why?

i pulled out a africa twin under a guard rail a week ago... luckily the guy wasnt hurt tooooo bad... bruised ribs and broken arm

A lot of bikes leave this streak as our tires have smaller contact patches that can get hot which is actually the reason the streak is left. The tires are really hot.

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If I was that passenger I’m for sure I’ll never ride bikes again 😂

He's well known on the nordschleife.

fewer will talk about about that FJ having car tires on it.

Lmfao that was funny

I get the feeling that the airhorn was next to the camera somewhere. That was probably not the car.

It looks like he (car driver) needs a proper "batting" on those knee caps and ankles of his. If that won't help at least he will not be able to put others in danger for some time... In all seriousness he deserves a slap for that "stunt" of his... Jerk

Rules of the ring, Slow on the right faster on the left...

@@jasonhoward9029 Rules of the ring, StVO, also includes not "racing" or endangering others.

That's why you should have at least a minimal understanding of which track you're going to, not just rawdog it

I've read that in the past the Gran Tourismo series could be used to learn real world race tracks. In fact, the PSP version had a pile of fun challenges on this track. But you could also drive the entire track.

Gran Turismo

To be fair, if you are being forced to slow down annoyingly mid corner then you have demonstrated a total lack of anticipation going into that corner. Perhaps this is the problem with many of these situations.. too little forethought about the conditions ahead. Someone slow up ahead, yet unable to get by and your favourite corner is coming up... Then why hang on their heels getting frustrated? Hang back a bit allow some buffer space and take your corner at speed.. deal with overtaking the chap ahead later on at a safer spot.

@@jimstartup2729 No, thats for non-retarded people... This is the tourists haha

@@jimstartup2729 buddy, cars hold their speed in the corner then bikes move away on straights........GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY

am yet to start riding but even on a simulator at the nordschleife a split second lapse in concentration can result in a mistake, now on a road or race car they can be forgiving but with what we saw at around the 0:50, mark even the tiniest of mistakes on a bike can result in a seriously terrifying outcome, havent finished the video yet but that porsche 911 gt2rs should not have expected a headlight flash to work, wait until the straight. what you said was 100% correct

Why arent racebikes alowed to have mirrors?

@@TheHolladiewaldfeee eyes forwards, take your eyes off the road on a bike at those speeds = bad times

well if that's how they're programmed, they have no business riding in mixed traffic do they?

​@@acalthu It's Touristenfahrten not a race, you shouldn't be overtaking so aggressively regardless of what you're driving

And the Porsche dives right into the gap right of him...

How about to the bikers, lose the ego, understand a 911 and an M3 that visit the ring are more than likely WAY faster than you mid corner. They also have the most easily recognisable front grills as well... If you see them coming at warp speed in your mirrors, just give way before leaning in instead of blocking their line? . After watching these clips, it's easy to see why a lot of drivers don't like us. There's one or two good riders. The rest are ridiculous who clearly don't know the basic rules and courtesy of that track.

@@Alex-dh1mq you’re actually braindead if you think your argument justifies what this bmw did. Through a busy part if the track. You WAIT for a clear time to over take not bully your way through. Don’t like those rules? Don’t go on the track simple as that.

@@Kilrathal yeah I get it, but the rules of that track are to signal and move to the right if there is faster moving traffic behind you. This incident is at brünnchen 1. Before that you have eschbach and wipperman.. He would have had all those cars right up behind him leading in to that turn causing the build up which is why they are bunched up in such a tight group. When you are slower, and you got cars all around you, and your side by side in a corner, then why try and still power out of it and run wide into the car?? Doesn't that seem like the real braindead action? Especially since he's already on the right and could have easily just kept a tight line and slowed down and allow them all to pass? Sorry man, but isn't one of the first rules of riding on the road to expect that 9 times out of 10, car drivers will do something ridiculous to try and kill you. What on earth makes people think that on an unregulated track with no speed limit, everyone is going to turn into a biker friendly driver?

Before you start overtake motorcycle you must watch how bike move in time atack on track (difrent lines and ride style than cars)

Probably the safest time to ride😂

I want to see an Indian version of nurburgring, you guys are built different 😅

I held my breath.. how can you just drive onto the track like that !?

@@TheAbckill18 a real life npc,no fear of death he will just respawn xD

I know right this moment was wrong in many ways lol. 1 why they 2 up on track and 2 where da F did the bmw think the bike was going she should've held back. Not to mention he achieved nothing as the bike will inevitably pass him again later on the track 2 up 😂😂😂

Bro at 3:48 is a Yamaha R1M.

This is why when people ask me "when are you going to upgrade to a bigger bike?" my response is "I don't need a bigger bike." Granted its a 600cc cruiser, it does exactly what I need it to. Sometimes I think it would be fun to have something with a little more oomph as I do max it out during acceleration but in reality I can't legally use the power of my current bike most times anyway so what's the point. I am 30 so it's not an age thing, Also cheers from Australia.

A TZ250 would be a blast there...if there were no cars.

What a remarkable and time saving use of the @ symbol instead of two letters. I hope you used a shortcut @ least. Lol.

I was wondering what they call this frankenstein

You mean @7:34? That is a Honda AfricaTwin Adventure.

@@christianschn.361 sure, that one

Nah it was being to tight on the bars. The bike was going into a slide and instead of being easy on the bars and rolling slowly off the throttle, he just grabt the bar as hard as he can. With that the front tire couldnt line up with the rear tire, which ended up nearly in a highsider.

@@rstrumann so u drive?

@@Dr.heidenreich Yeah im riding a motorcycle ^^

haha geiles Kommentar, love it.

2011

cars and bikes don’t mix on track. That’s why they only have one on the track at a time in most places.

Gehört verboten, aber der Jahrmarkt bringt Kohle.

Depend the strokes, ninja two stroke 150cc tuned can reach 180km/h. More than enough.