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Well done for the video, Epic history Tv. But I strongly protest Bernadotte's position. A man who was interviewed by the Swedish monarch to be best suited for the position, should receive higher ranking than this. Anyway Bernadotte learned Machiavelli's teachings, and evolved himself.

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"Instructions unclear: I got my marshall stuck on the Swedish throne"

Except for Marshal Perignon. ): I suppose it makes sense, seeing as he's at the bottom.

Hahaha

🤣🤣🤣👏👏 so true The "became swedish 0/5" got me in laughter

Grouchy. 2/5. Makes good horse meat but doesn't deliver to Waterloo Oudinot. 4/5. Durable. Tough. Hard wearing Murat. 4/5. Attractive with Italian flare

Hm I gather the ranking was regarding their performance as Marshals. As to historical significance I can't see any of them comparing to Bernadotte. You can even argue his legacy is greater then Napoleon's himself.

AND Norway. Don't forget Norway. Our former Sergeant Major sat on the throne of two Kingdoms. A King twice over by his own hand.

Old Nosey had beaten them all. Who dared to confront him.

@@EK-gr9gd He did have a huge beak. And he never lost a battle when he was in command.

@@EK-gr9gd I note above but Bernadotte's record in battle is exceptional. He is the only general to have defeated troops of at least Corps strength, of every major power: Austria, Prussia, Russia, England and Russia. He defeated Archduke Charles, Blucher, Bennigsen, Oudinot and Ney. And of course Napoleon at Leipzig.

I love that line.So very true

And a thousand others died before he got that as well

searedpanda no

searedpanda Yep, thousands among whom he was standing. How is that supposed to be shameful ?

From closer range!

That was marshal Brune

@@megasalexandros714 No, it was Massena

@@megasalexandros714 source?

@@spammer245 source?

@@haveagreatday6822 mine was guide to the napoleonic wars, it was in spanish by the way

I think Shakespeare said it best in one of his plays " first we'll murder all the lawyers " .

@@howardwayne3974 Dick the Butcher in Henry VI Part 2. Mind you, he wrote this line before the advent of the telephone and clod callers, so I suggest that lawyers should be killed second.

Howard Wayne No the line goes “The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers”

@@lomax343 thank you for clearing that up for me ! I can never keep it straight .

@@thehistoryvideogameandgame4730 thank you very much .

@Ejk1924 Fighting pointless battles is not honorable. Mindless war is all they knew

@Ejk1924 being forced to fight doesn't really mean men are going to fight like badasses. Probably the opposite because they have little will to.

*built different* lol

@@skyhappy For all Napoleon's Marshalls fighting along the Emperor was a great honour and duty and they never saw it like an order.

@@alino5469 I don't see your point. They're fighting for a meaningless cause. Working hard for a pointless cause is a waste of effort and life. Also they didn't fight next to the emperor. they commanded men and were sent to wherever they were sent.

It's certainly a hell of a homemade gun!

While it's just Wikipedia, it is featured on this list of terrorist attacks between 1800-1899 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents

According to the artillery officers inspecting the home made weapon, the assassin could have killed up to 200 people if he had known more about designing weapons and artillery. The weapon is called 'the infernal machine' and had 25 rifle barrels, firing over 400 bullets. Look it up. It was as though a line of musketeers had fired, suddenly it was raining bullets. Pretty bizarre stuff.

Sadly no Pablo Escobar blew up a commercial jet liner trying to assassinate the Columbian President

57 years of age is not 87 years of age

@@neieduardodepaula4556 Funny you would say that, when 99% of 57 year olds (and under that age, including you) nowadays would not survive such a MILITARY march.

@@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser Agree. I'm a fit 50 year old with all the health benefits of the modern age and i doubt i could do that under those conditions. Freezing, starving, an enemy after my blood over frozen ground in a blizzard. Lefebvre was tough.

@@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser As a 21 year old, im not even sure if i can march for 10 km without dying by the roadside.

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Same!

On god day got better

Yes me too and also the tf2 scream fortress update

Same, except 19 hours later

Yeah and also one of the most underrated Marshals imo

Yes he was, and a fun fact: Lefebre wife was a political friend and buddy of Napoleon, and her nickname Sans-Gene actually was because her wil to do what it will be nesecary, but, that nickname was given after the Napoleonic era, as during the Napoleonic era that was the nickname of a Female General of Napoleon guard, Marie-Therese Figueur.

Sheer tragedy that hit him... 14 Children...

Speaking of his wife who was a regimental washerwoman, apparently when Lefebvre was made into a duke, she told all the soldier grunts who were practically sons to her "look at me, I'm a duchess now" sarcastically. Blue collar folks both of them.

Agree

@Napoléon Bonaparte Still third state. And his father died when he was very young

Bernadotte, out of Napoleon's 26 Marshals, had the sweetest deal by becoming Crown Prince and then King of Sweden in 1818, establishing a lasting legacy to this day. When the sixth coalition was formed in 1813 and Sweden joined, the Allies must have been shitting themselves because, for once, someone who knew Napoleon inside and out.

Only if you equate being third estate with being a member of the useless underclass. They're 80% of the population. Plenty of energetic talent in it.

@@joshuagrover795 Bernadotte was actually the one who put the 6th Coalition together. He offered the olive branch to Russia after Napoleon invaded Russia. Bernadotte than brought Britain and Russia together who had been at war with each other.

I have to disagree. What kind of man declares war on his own country unprovoked and then kills his genome countrymen on the battlefield. He was a power hungry backstabber.

2 season is probably not enough. 3 seasons at least. Season 2 probably would be with the season finale at Leipzig as the climax.

Yeah, one of my dream to become a filmmaker and an epic of his life. The tale is wonderous, and unlike the French Emperor ended in success. 1st part: Royal Marine in Corsica and Revolutionary France, Antagonist: boredom and a mob, Allies: his troops and boss. 2nd Part: Revolutionary General in Germany and Italy, Allies: Bonapartes, Ney. Enemy: Prince Charles and French Looters. 3rd: Poitician of the Republic. Allies: Joseph Bonaparts and loyal republicans. Enemies: Austrian Mob, Napoleon Spies, and the shadow of Talleyrand and Fouche . 4th: Marshal of the Empire, Enemies: Berthier, Davout, Blucher. 5th: Winner of the heart of Saxons and Swedes. Enemies: Charles and Napoleon. 6th: Liberator of Germany and Conqueror of Norway. Enemies: Prussian Generals, Austrian Politicians, English Ambassadors, Denmark Army, Norwegian freedom fighters and the greatest general in the era.

The Napoleonic era deserves its own 8-9 season top production show. It seems too entertaining to be reality, almost too good to be true from a literary standpoint.

And then all of his 14 children died before him.

I think that was Soult

Not just sons. He had 14 children in total. He survived all of them.

@@gaiusjuliuspleaser that's truly tough.

@@gaiusjuliuspleaser plus he was always on the front line. That is kind of insane

@@gaiusjuliuspleaser If he had 14 children in total, so this 14 children are his SONS, right?

@@neieduardodepaula4556 Last survivng 'child' of (out of) 14. But child might also mean baby/offspring of any age.

Well, Ney oposed the British many times maybe that is why, the same with Soult, but Lefebre don't howhever, here is a fact who is ignored in the video, Lefebre wife was a political friend and buddy of Napoleon, and her nickname Sans-Gene actually was because her wil to do what it will be nesecary, but, that nickname was given after the Napoleonic era, as during the Napoleonic era that was the nickname of a Female General of Napoleon guard, Marie-Therese Figueur.

@@omarbradley6807 Very true about Ney and Soult, they fought us the most so they're the most famous to us. But we still have a fondness for them!

@@AtheAetheling it's interesting though, they say Wellington got along well with Massena after the wars but not so much with Soult. Massena famously pointed to his grey hair when he met Wellington and jokingly said "you turned every hair on my body grey"

@@toochangz Hah! Wow I didn't know that! Thank you!

As french i prefer Davout

You left out he was a swine.

The Duke of Betrayal

It's a bit more complicated than that, I think. Marmont was one of the few people who were with Napoleon from the start of his career all the way until the first abdication. Napoleon considered him a friend (and only gave him the baton because of that) and Marmont went willingly to every campaign and battle he was sent to. Marmont saw how much his friend changed from the young artillery general in Italy leading a dispirited army to glory, to a deluded Emperor of France leading his dying empire to slaughter, battle after battle. At some point Marmont must have seen the futility of continuing to fight the Coalition when France's armies were out of ammunition, horses, and down to raw recruits and kids- all to fight for Napoleon's throne. What exactly do you do when the friend you followed everywhere from glory to hell becomes a monster?

@@MarvinT0606 Fair point Marvin.

@@MarvinT0606 To be honest, Marmont was Napoleon's oldest friend, both of whom met in 1789 older than Lannes, Duroc, Desaix, Junot, Bessieres, and Bethier, Marmont was his oldest friend. Marmont was always friendly and kind to Napoleon and followed him even when He fell from grace he followed him but over the years Napoleon's personality changed to be a more severe and hard person with his old friend for me sincerely Marmont was Napoleon's most real friend while he met the others in action or in battle Unlike Lannes Duroc and Bessieres, Marmont's friendship with Napoleon becomes colder especially on Napoleon's part despite the fact that Marmont won the Dalmatian campaign and gives the best of himself Napoleon after Wagram interrogates and criticizes him harshly for two hours for being slow without taking into account that Marmont had a much smaller army than the one he faced and even so he was able to defeat his opponents squeezed by experience, he returns to his personal store and is surprised to be named Marshal, however Napoleon shows a great coldness to his friend when he said "between us, you still haven't done enough to fully justify my choice" even though marmont had done a lot to be appointed marshal there marmont realizes battle after battle that napoleon has changed a lot From being the young man who knew as a friend to a man who treated him more like a subordinate, Marmont saw that Napoleon was no longer his friend but rather his assistant who He guided the orders he gave him and despite that he continued to serve him as loyally and skillfully as he could but when he saw the remains of the Russian army, the traumatic sight of how that army was annihilated in Russia and a few returned made Marmont think that Napoleon was sacrificing lives in great quantity to maintain his power and in the end when he saw what was once the Napoleonic army to an army made up of young men sent to their death, he morally destroyed Marmont and saw that already the war would not be more that a bloodbath and unnecessary death and trying to avoid the inevitable frankly marmont is in a way a traitor but being in his position and seeing the situation and a lost cause that you would have done honestly this is what napoleon might have written if he knew what marmont thought of him "Honestly. Marmont was my oldest friend, older than Lannes, Duroc, Desaix, Bessieres, and Bethier, he was the only person who was with me since the beginning of my career even when I fell from grace he followed me willingly and I help, and instead over the years I treated him in a cold way and as a subordinate that as the friend that he was for me. Sadly I realize that I lost the friend who was with me from the beginning and followed me " Napoleon I

@Rusty Hussler Nobody is as good a Narrator as Charles Nove.

UKposts isn´t short of good history channels. They just are outnumbered by the others and take more time for their fewer but better videos. But of course it is a niche interest containing lots of niche topics and special interests which in turn may be somewhat harder to come by.

Really? You must not be looking very hard, there is a wealth of history content if you but look.

It truly is, and I love it.

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Actually Bernadotte joining the allies brought balance to Europe, otherwise France was overpowered

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Napoleon forgot to remember Bernadotte's promise to his adopted country, Sweden, that he would defend Swedish interests vigorously and through perhaps cynical Bernadotte was true to his word to the end.

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I see you everywhere

True, completely true I saw a person talking in a reply of a comment, saying napoleon and marshals were very bad but then he says if the corps is system is good why wont we use it.

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Or Jean

That would be a surprise to absolutely no one. The order of Numbers 2 to 5 is a more interesting question but Lannes has to be there.

Soult

Or ney

I think 1 to 5 are:- 1. Davout 2. Lannes 3. Ney 4. Soult 5. Between Oudinot and Victor (I think)

83 likes, vive le empereur!

That was the funniest line I've read

It's now 129 likes, ​@@dewananda_dn. 😉

You should have known better than to drop the atomic bomb like that on him right after appointing the man.

I see you everywhere!

My friend

Marmont *did nothing wrong*

Thank you!

Epic History TV no, thank you. Seriously I am so grateful to be able to watch such a high quality production for free. you guys are legends

I agree. You and your team have done great work here.

I also love the niches these guys cover.

Me too

Wanna join my Napoleonic Roblox group lmao

How did you comment one day ago when this video says it was released 35 minutes ago lol? I know those times aren't always accurate but I've never seen it be off by an entire day.

Chaos might have been because of different Time zones?

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Damn that hurts

Really? sourche: Just Trust me bro

@@iqbalilhemk3708 check wikipedia he was right

@@iqbalilhemk3708 Really? Your joke: It's funny bro

Pretty sad .

I love Oudinot, even if he wasn't the same man after 1812. He loved getting in fights and dueling. No one ever talked back to him because he put so many men into the ground with his sword.

All of Davout's good company (Ney, Oudinot, St. Cyr) are great in their own way.

My thoughts exactly. Hooray for the humble fans of history

Agreed

People who met him remarked at what a fine figure he cut. Tall, lean and with a head of pitch-black hair. 5-11 is rather tall for back then.

@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 still a swine compared to the 6’5 based Giga-Chad, Marshal Davout.

@@basedkaiser5352 Wrong. Davout was 6-7.

@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 goddamn what an absolute unit he was

@@1911Zoey Davout taught St. Cyr how to love a woman and scold a child. He uses his foreskin as a tarp.

To be honest I'd love to know the context of that "feeble". It could have various meanings. Knowing Napoleon and how much he preferred his "all-out-attack-generals", Mortier might have just been a bit more cautious and less decision-happy in discussions about tactics and battle plans, giving him a feeble-minded reputation with Napoleon? Just guessing but I think the "feeble" really needs some explanation like that.

@@catriona_drummond In fairness you raise a very good point there, it could be aimed at about anything - mental ability, ambition etc etc. I've seen it before and interpreted it as a general summary, which of course could be wrong.

Yeah, I'm somewhat surprised Mortier and Lefebvre have come in behind the likes of MacDonald and Victor.

This is true. All the marshals had a role like players in a sports team. Even of Ney Napoleon said "there's a spot in every army for someone like him but only one spot."

By all accounts the Big Mortar was regarded as the friendliest and most down to earth of all the Marshals. He had a total lack of jealousy and was always happy to cooperate (a rare trait in the marshalate) and was a master at leading infantry attacks, especially in 1813 - 14 when he commanded the Young Guard.

@Rusty Hussler Not even Corona will stop me from finishing this series.

Napoleon I Bonaparte why do you have to be everywhere!

Et ils règnent toujours aujourd'hui le bougre ! Y'a plus de roi français en Europe qu'en France -_- L'Espagne avec les Bourbons et la Suède avec les Bernadotte

@@achyuthansanal The Emperor is with us forever.

Atleast someone got to keep their throne.

Bourbons in 1815: Yes let’s throw Lefebvre’s baton in the river

Lefebvre*

Hoche, Moreau, Desaix, Dumas... Too many death or disgrace among the great of the revolutionnary wars.

Also General Kleber , who was napoleons second in command during the Egyptian campaign

@@TheFiresloth Hoche resumed his political carear during Napoleon, but Moreau, was more jealous of Napoleon than Marmont or Bernadotte, and he was a traitor to the revolution, instead i would ad Dugomier,

TheFiresloth you can add Kléber to your list.

@@freewal Yeah true. It's interesting to wonder what would have been his future had he not died in Egypt.

Honestly, I think people who mock those who surrender are just armchair generals who have no idea what war is. Sometimes its honestly the best thing to do. Sometimes retreating is the best thing to do.

He pulled a Philipe Petain rather than a Wenck, and if he was so worried about lives, Why he was so bloody while repressing the 1830 revolution in the name of the bourbons?

@@AtheAetheling I don't believe who they mock the surrendering but when it came to Marmont, it is tration

After Surrendering I guarantee you every one of his army and Wench himself wished they counterattacked the Russians. They fought for more than just their own lives, their own country or their own continent. They fought for the preservation of Europe itself against the savage barbarity of the bolshevik hordes and even till this day we're suffering as a result of that defeat in WW2.

Honestly I admire those who surrender to save lives and fight another day.But marmont case is different...there is no word to describe his action except betrayal.he exclusively negotiated to dethrone bonaparte family while it was possible for napoleon to abdicate for his son.

Truly diverse I agree. I found Lefebvre the most likeable, reliable and relatable.

@Rusty Hussler Luckily not. Luke tried to assassinate me though.

All from upper middle/ lower high class?

@@historiamowiosobie4515 There was low classes though

@@historiamowiosobie4515 Ney was the son of a barrel maker, Oudinot was the son of a farmer, and so on

A flexible mind is a great mind!

That's a great quote.

While Bernadotte might seem like a traitor to some, his sense of honor and fairness is clear, and admirable.

Bernadotte and Napoleon are two men cut from the same cloth, that's why they could never work well together or see eye-to-eye. Both men had the drive and ambition for power. Bernadotte, like Napoleon, was no man's subordinate- and it chafed him during his service to the latter. I think Napoleon let him go to Sweden on purpose because he'd rather have Bernadotte become an enemy from without than an enemy from within- which would have destroyed his regime from the inside much faster than any Coalition army could.

@@MarvinT0606 The last part is a bit wrong. Despite the facts that Bernadotte is known as an unwilling subordinate, his power seemed to be waned by then. Fouche thought of him as a replacement for Napoleon after Wagram but Bernadotte did not took the opportunity. Throughout service under Napoleon, he always was given command of foreign troops and original corp is shuffled so much, their loyalty would not be as strong as when Napoleon was making his coup. His only real power, if any, was that the Marshalate is full of his friends. Sweden is backwater state in those days. Napoleon is master of Europe. He did not that Bernadotte actually competent enough to challenge him. Napoleon looked down on all his marshals or everyone for that matter. It is more of a rash decision, when he shout "Go and let our destinies be fulfilled,

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I very dissapointed that bernadotte is not one of the ten, he was one of the best generals of the revolucionary wars and napoleonic wars, he made the hell to chsrles in The samble and mouse, and defeat him in italy, bernadotte was in the end the downfall of napoleon in leipzig

But Bernadotte defeated both Oudinot and Ney. And Archduke Charles. And Blücher. Doesn't that make him a superior general to both?

@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 It was with the swedish/allied armies. My post was about French marshals with French troops and to be fair, Bernadotte wasn't that good as a French marshal, Auerstaed is the best example.

@@Kevin-jr7qm Well, I don't want to hijiack your thread. Sorry. That said, he was still quite formidable. J-A way overstated, Bernadotte actually followed his orders, and Davout running into the main Prussian Army was Napoleon's mistake. The Wiki page has a good write up on what occurred that day. Most every Marshal on your list made mistakes as big, some bigger. But don't overlook battles like Halle, Lubeck, Mohrengun. Good list!

@@Kevin-jr7qm Also, Bernadotte defeated Archduke Charles and Blücher as a French general or marshal.

I'd go and say Suchet was Napoleon's Duke of Wellington. Cautious, far-sighted, and understands the underlying factors present in a country up in arms against foreign occupiers, but decisive when going on the offensive. Among the marshals I'd rank him as the best independent commander who could run his own theater of operations (which he did so well, even as French forces gradually evacuated Spain).

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Offered the throne by a young lieutenant with no authority to do so. Everyone thought it was absurd until they thought about it, and then it made perfect sense.

I've always liked studying French since middle school, and the French Revolution and Napoleonic Era have inspired me a lot. I've even joined the military in part due to that.

I can only wonder why that is

They said they were only accepting the service while they were Marshals. Bernadotte's career from 1804-1810 was not his best for several reasons (Berthier sabotaging him) including the rivalry with Napoleon. Of course, when one takes the totality of the careers of all the marshals, before and after Napoleon, Bernadotte is easily the most accomplished and with the greatest legacy.

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And didn’t get into petty squabbles with his fellow marshals, generals or Napoleon I, He was focused on the mission at hand and left his personal opinions at the door. That’s something especially when you have the highest rank in the military at the time

And in case you don’t know, There’s a rank which is higher than Marshal Of The Empire, It’s called Marshal General of France; Mortier’s friend Jean-de-Dieu Soult received the title in 1847; The sad part is that Mortier never got to see the ceremony, He was killed 12 years before protecting King Louis Philippe I, He was the one who authorized Soult’s promotion by the way

Marshal Mortier out of Napoleon's 26 Marshals was personally the most down to earth and likeable personality of having friendly relations with all his colleagues and willing to work toward a bigger goal. His record wasn't glamorous like Marshal Davout or Ney, but fairly good.

Bernadotte was definitely shrewd in his career. I won't call him a traitor of Napoleon. Heck, Bernadotte, before the First Empire rose faster in the ranks than Napoleon. The Sweds certainly must have seen qualities in Bernadotte, and Napoleon didn't stop him from becoming Crown Prince of Sweden in 1810, so their must have been slightly mutual respect between the two generals But out of the 28 Marshals, his legacy was the most impressive and endoring of forging a dynasty that exists to this day.

Bernadotte gets a lot of grief from Prussian fanboys. Reading Leggiere one would think Bernadotte was the anti-christ. People bash him for doing the very thing all the other nations were doing: protecting their interests.

​@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 I don't know why people slander Bernadotte so much about changing sides for example in 1813 or not supporting Napoleon when he become Crown Prince of Sweden in 1810 because Napoleon actually gave Bernadotte his blessing with Sweden and Bern had made it crystal clear to Napoleon before leaving that he was going to defend his adopted nation's interests above anything else. Throughout his reign Napoleon's own brothers in Holland, (Louis) and Jérôme, (Westphalia) had also followed their own policies and ways that often undermined/differed from Napoleon's policies such as Louis half-heartly imposing the Continental System. So not being Napoleon's puppet or following his policies was nothing that usually.

Well , People who aren't kind to him is writing his history now.

He was full of great aphorisms like that.

Just wait for oudinot, the guy is litteraly made of something else

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Huh... Never thought of it that way.

@@williamtheconqueror7807 hey look, it's my great-great-great x25 Uncle!

@@williamtheconqueror7807 but also yes. Bernadotte gets a lot of bad press thanks to Napoleon III. And even good historians like Chandler have taken propaganda to heart. And fanciful tales like Marbot. I recommend "The Amazing Career of Bernadotte" By Dunbar Plunkett. It is the definitive biography (until I get around to writing one).

Well it wasn't who Napoleon trusted Bernadotte, it was more because Desiree, who actually helped Napoleon even when her husband was at war with him,

@@omarbradley6807 there is a "new" novel out about Desiree, "The Queen's Fortune," (I say new since it seems a lot like the novel Desiree). Have you read it? My take on Desiree is that she was not very political or too keen on being Queen of Sweden. What a fabulous destiny for one who loathed politics.