Lucifer was always often depicted as the most beautiful of Angels.

@@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 That’s because the story from the Bible states that Lucifer was the most beautiful being Edit- Or at least “perfect in beauty”

@@nicole9volt wasn't in the Bible, that was in Paradise Lost which is Bible fanfic

In short, she has the perfect face fitting for an angel role.

@@patrikdator1265 Exactly! And she's around 6'3", so she can appear a bit intimidating easily.

To me he looks and sounds like a british soccerplayer. But hey, to each their own.

yeah..he could be the next batman😂😂😂

Too bad they screwed up Death

Dude kind reminds me of Edward Cullen from the Twilight movie

@@jasongarcia1886 😂😂😂😂rofl

you have a lot of conversations with the devil do you?

@@TheRealGunfish of course silly, Doesn't everyone ☺️. Wait........ ...DOESN'T EVERYONE 😧???

And barely concealed menace in every word. Chills indeed!

She plays it like she knows she could trick anyone into doing what she wants, and make them think it was their idea to do so.

@@SteinarrBattlefist Really? Lucifer sounds like a condescending, smarmy see you next Tuesday to me...

Literally a deal with the actual devil.

because he/she is in complete control. Morpheus knows it. In the comics he is very clear, had lucifer wished and morpheous would cease to exist. Even destiny IN HIS REALM is no match for lucifer or Michael.

@Audrion Irks she

@Audrion Irks Actually a He in the source materials, which is where op gets his info from

@Audrion Irks Not back in the original books. But in the show, yes.

Is she the same Mazikeen as the one from Lucifer, the series with Tom Ellis as the titular character?

Nooot really Both are different interpretations based on the same comic character though

@@jordanhunter3375 Lucifer Morningstar and Mazikeen both in this and on the Lucifer show come from the same comic book origins, but the adaptation is quite different (this one is much more faithful to the source, of course)

Doesn’t make sense why is Lucifer a female

@@trevorwalsh9443 because angels have no gender

Lucifer is the ruler of hell, but dream is it's architect.

He may not fear Hell, but he definitely fears Lucifer.

@@anxnymous_bodies Lucifer wants it all gone, including hell. But even Morpheus won't give them the pleasure.

Morpheus knows that Lucifer can destroy him in Hell; but killing Morpheus would gain nothing for Lucifer (another would take his place). Morpheus knows the only reason he is not attacked is because the temptation of a TRAPPED Morpheus, enhancing Hell's power, stays Lucifer's hand. Thus Morpheus plays along hoping because it's his only option. Morpheus isn't powerful enough to simply take the helm; he has to wait for Lucifer to give it to him (by challenge or trickery).

...And she reminds him why he should...by leaving him its keys...

That is almost ripped from the comic.

They could have made the devil somebody who would actually be intimidating like someone actually believable as the devil but na they went for Brean of Tarth 🤣

@@SidmanJam She’s classical, softly spoken, very tall and imposing with a wide strong frame. Actually works very well for a portrayal of Lucifer. Very intimidating indeed, being a man doesn’t always lead to being more intimidating or a better performance, Gwendoline did a stellar job.

@@SidmanJam oh you mean like a big monster with scary wings, long horns, sharp teeth, and a bloody skin? HAHA what a child you are if that's your level of what fear and intimidation is.

Had David Bowie been alive there would not even be an audition for the role.

Or better... Tom Ellis. From the new gen take.

@@the_unfiltered_truth7181 pass.

Lucifer from the original DC Sandman run literally is David Bowie lol

@@the_unfiltered_truth7181 Tom Ellis lucifer is no way acceptable for sandman. He transformed lucifer in a goofy womanizer. Lucifer in its unadultered form (and far superior form) is a very stoic being, 15 billion years old that is well above human low humor and is UNAFFECTED BY THE ENDLESS (yet that is very important, he has no destiny, he does not die, he does not dream, he cannot be destroyed, he IS NOT ENSLAVED TO DESIRES, he does not despair, he cannot be confused)

very bad casting , sorry. no feeling of strength or power from dream or lucy.

@@lgnfve weird take. The characters always had subtle ways of displaying authority and lack of fear which translates well in the acting.

While I'd like CG or makeup on his eyes, the voice is spot on.

@@lgnfve Agreed. Neil Gaimens Lucifer is same from comic to comic, and was based on Sting. Does she look like a young Sting? Bad casting.

Tom Ellis at least carried the spirit of gaimens lucifer.

The Bowie riff happened since day one. In Preludes & Nocturnes Lucifer looks like young Bowie on the cover of his first album.

Yes there is indeed need to be able to make Lucifer imposing and threatening.

Exactly!

believe it or not there is a type of person out there who gets mad a comic adaptions of comics they haven’t read

No, he was drawn to look like David Bowie, not feminine

​@trihermawan9553 he was meant to look androgynous like david bowie and Gwendoline fits perfectly in that regard

Disagreed on the latter part. Anything and anyone is capable of change and redemption.

they are the same character in both shows

@@the_unfiltered_truth7181 Darth Sidious isn’t

Yes, the original David Bowie-version. Not the lame, disappointing Fox version. And Maze looks cooler too.

@@Beerbottles123 The Fox version is what Mike Carey (who wrote the Lucifer comic) originally envisioned before workshopping the concept further. That's why the first story has a kidnapping plot. Carey moved away from his initial concept as he developed Lucifer's motivations.

How dare you! Lucifer Moringstar is spectacular no matter incarnation.

Really? looks like a lovely granny XD

@@Beerbottles123 how dare you disrespectful my son

Dude, same. Chills all over🔥

Lol, hi bot

Plus the mic drop after he answers her question "what power do dreams have in Hell?"

A rap battle lmao

She has such a sweet face. It's a perfect fit.

Try one of best series ever come netflix

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You must be mistaken this with your generic, cheesy, comedic, formulaic, and watered down garbage known as marvel cinematic universe also known as Disney kiddie fun trainwreck universe

@@xesspectre6441 It's a joke you goof

@@xesspectre6441 are you okay

A nice touch, or bad CGI? Hard to say. Overall the set felt kind fake/low budget to me.

@@JorenMathews To be honest, it could be both ways. Indeed could be bad CGI but you don't know how fire and mundane things like it affects the Lord of hells, it even obey her commands.

This comment is pure gold.

and then, Neo came out and he said "Hello there!!!"

Overused meme

I'm sure Swinton's portrayal in the movie was modeled after this scene in the comics.

That's the point. Angels doesn't have gender so usually in hard fictions they are portrayed in an androgynous way. Tilda and Gwen have the perfect facial features for these characters. You just need to hide the female body and you're done.

Both roles played to perfection!

Pretty sure Netflix already made six seasons of that one, but the lead into that would be awesome.

@@xanderm6090 no that was one wasn't comic accurate What Arthur is referring to is an adaption of the Lucifer comics which are totally different than whatever the tom Ellis show did

@@JSTmore in fairness, there are now 2 separate comics that tell what Lucifer did after leaving Hell. Carey's Lucifer run, and Dan Watters'. Both are incredible, but don't fit with each other

@@emmetbayne2561 Dan Watter's was sequel to blood on the street tho in other words a second sequel to Carey's run And it wasn't great tbh

Which of the comic book issues is this from?

@@audrionirks8881but they do have some degree of power over them. Lucifer was clearly wary of Dreams implied threat to cut them off from being able to dream after all.

And considering Morpheus is very much out classed by Lucifer that works perfectly

See what you did there

You must be high? 😆

What's fun is that if you listen to the Audible audio drama series of THE SANDMAN, actor Michael Sheen plays Lucifer in the style of Bowie. It's a nice nod to both the man, and Gaiman's inspiration for the character while writing the comic.

Omg that would be amazing

Same here, but I'm more relieved that they kept the look of the comics without it becoming too goofy.

Or Mazikeen having more of her face eaten away. My impression is that show having a relatively low budget.

@@Davemented Or her speech impediment, but that might've been too hard to make work on screen. :)

Was renewed for season 2 in 2022 october. They started filming in june 2023 the season 2, but the actors strike in 13 july interrupted the filming. Patience, at least the season 2 will be released in 2024 or 2025.

They certainly could have picked a better devil though somebody actually intimidating

@@SidmanJam it's more intimidating to have a pure and kind looking women with a manipulative and threatening aura then like any other scary man character

Awful choice for Lucifer though

@@pikmin369 men will always be more intimidating in presence than women

@@devious1538 🤨🤨🤨

Thank you, finally someone that sees that.

Except she's a woman. Once again the PC crowd are changing characters' sexes just to score brownie points.

She isn't. There's limits to what can be done to replicate how incredible the comic art is but Lucifer was way cooler looking there still.

They are

Lmaoo 🤣

they aren't really...

WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING?

They are non readers. That´s it.

Netflix Lucifer is based on comic called Lucifer which is a spinoff of Sandman comics.

​@@luckystroke126 Netflix Lucifer is a very loose adaptation of the actual comic of the same name. The only thing they share is the obvious main celestials and Lux, Lux is a true piano bar and the characters have very different personalities (cruel one's at that), Hell is fire and brimstone of course now ruled by the Angels Remiel and Duma. The whole police and Chloe arc are made for the TV show and has nothing to do with the comic. Lucifer's relationship with Amenadiel is firmly based on hatred. Comic Lucifer is much much more powerful than his TV counterpart.

@@luckystroke126 It is based in name alone because there is ZERO of the series on it. The lucifer personality is 100% different, there is no Ellaine belloc, nothing.

Hes only really important in Seasons of Mist. If Preludes and Nocturnes didn't have to retain continuity with the rest of the DC Universe then they wouldn't have included at all.

I'm guessing they had to cut some things for time/budget. It's a shame but you'll never get everything in an adaptation, especially of something as big as Sandman.

@@exquisitecorpse__ wait, why? How does that affect continuity?

You either have the Triumvirate or you don't. There's no point in having half of it. Besides, they don't have any important lines in this scene.

They may show up later in the scene, but Azazel isn’t really required until A Season of Mists.

Give me some of what you are smoking please 🤣

not sure what the point of a battle is. Lucifer is way more powerful than Dream lmao

@@daviduzo think he means the battle between dream and the demon for the helm

@@daviduzo also that's not entirely true, as dream states later on, 'What power would hell have if those imprisoned here would not be able to dream of heaven?'

@@benadams9223 ohhh alright. My bad

@@benadams9223 Lucifer in the comics...as this is based on the comics, doesn't really care about mortals or need them for power lol. Dream and several of the endless have stated outright that lucifer can absolutely destroy them

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No its not lucifer is a blond hair guy not some woke female version

@@MR_MPN_2003 "woke" overused word, go whine somewhere else better yet why not watch the interview Neil Gaiman did talking about whiney pricks like you who complained about it being "woke"

@@MR_MPN_2003 who cares lucifer can be anyone

@@MR_MPN_2003 Please find better content to watch, being told that everything is woke is rotting your mind

@@sensely1366 Neil Gaiman even said Lucifer's gender doesn't matter to him

And Delirium and desire.

@@arthursouza9641 It's less obviously "I'm scared spitless of that one" if one leaves out some other siblings.

Dream isn't the strongest of the endless though. That would be Destiny or Death.

@@jaimefalco8682 death strongest then dream

Endless are probably equal, but Lucifer is above the Endless

@@worawatsr9803 he is just one step above them all, so if the endless collaborated they might take him down. and Death is the weakest one since all she does it shepherd the dead to their rightful place.

No. death is the most powerful of the endless. Even the furies that kill morpheous clearly fear her .

Probably but it really wouldn’t do well to have that in the show

She did what now?

This is what lucifer is actually like.

"Detectiiiive!"

It’s not though

@@millasboo In the comics it is

@@pixelcount350 , it comes later in the Sandman run; not right after this. When Morpheus returns in Season of Mists is what triggers Lucifer to make its decision that results in the "Lucifer" comic and series.

Okay sexist

nah Tom Ellis would have killed it

@@Selloca Tom Ellis is a pathetic parody of Lucifer.

LOL please, any actor could have done it with just as much vigour if not more. Ralph Feinnes, Willem Dafoe, David Tenant...Anthony Hopkins if they felt so inclined to age him up. The list goes on.

This is why diversity gets a bad rep.

Nah. I'm sick of demons. How about an angel for a change

@@nerro5569 Lucifer is an angel

@@erniezito8494 not talking about some has been. Perhaps Michael demiurgos who's still an angel. And is Lucifers twin

@@nerro5569 Lucifer is more powerful than his brother