Oh no, it’s like people don’t want to pay artificially inflated prices and mark ups for mediocre / average vehicles 🙃

People are tired of being gouged. The dealership mark up is highway robbery.

I've had 4 Jeeps. A Golden Eagle (yes, I'm old) and 3 Cherokees. The 4 cylinder was way underpowered - kept that one 3 months. They all had poor gas millage and serious rust issues (Wisconsin winters?). They also kept my mechanic busy with lots of problems. I now own 2 Subarus going on 10 years with only battery, brake and tire replacements. Enough said.

The income disparity in this country is disgusting.

I was at a Jeep dealership in November '22 ready to buy a new 4xe rubicon. The price at that time was $72k with a $10k markup. The asking price was a bit over $82k. I bought a Lexus GX instead at almost $60k. I won't be looking for another 4X4 or AWD vehicle for the next 10 years or so. I wish Jeep good luck.

My last Wrangler was a POS but then I traded it for a Cherokee where I found out that they would not even honor the warranty and on my first oil change, they took out second gear making the car very dangerous too drive. The warranty was replaced with the term, "operating as designed". That was my last purchase from FCA for life. Would never trust them again.

You nailed it. My sister bought a Jeep Compass and drove it many years before it rusted out. She wanted to buy another one, but ended up with a Ford Eco Sport because she couldn't afford a new Compass. Her wages have not kept up with inflation and thus her standard of living has decreased since the time she bought her Compass. Once again, the rich live like kings and the working class get the shaft.

I'm a GM at a Jeep Ram Dodge store. The reason jeeps aren't selling that much is because the manufacturer increased the cost of building a vehicle. Just 2 years ago, you could get a 60k rubicon gladiator full loaded. Today, it's almost 80k. Because they're saying that if the dealer can get a mark up, then they'll raise the cost. My opinion.

Two reasons, reliability and price Jeep is at the very bottom in regards to reliability quality control, and also customer satisfaction after the sale. The only brand that fared worse voice Land Rover and of course the price someone tell me why a new Jeep Wrangler four-door is $65,000?

The dealership I went to is awful. They have so many in the lot but they acted as if they don’t want to sell me a jeep. They listed one for $53,500 and I offered $53,000 but they told me no. That’s was it, no counter offer or anything.

The problem is that Jeeps is trying to brand themselves as luxury brand and charging ridiculous prices for their stuff. I mean all the brands at the moment are overpricing their vehicles but Jeep was on it for a while. And on top of that you get the legendary Chrysler reliability, and lets not forget they are now together with French and Italians which are well know for unreliable cars. Lot of Mopar guys were after me, when I called this when Stellantis was created, and here we are :D

Man, 2 door wrangler was my dream car. But since 2018 built quality drastically declined (i like to take care of my vehicle long term), which made me look in different direction. Add a huge price jump due to pandemic and all, and this dream simply goes into a "dead dream" box in my head.

Good presentation. Yes please do Buick also. Would be interested in hearing about the decline in sales. Thanks Ben. The biggest issue is pricing of all these vehicles versus Quality @ Reliability.

I haven’t bought a new car yet for 2 reasons, 1) the interest rates are way to high. 2) dealers are asking way to much over MSRP for vehicles that aren’t worth it and that will loose 20%+ when you drive it off the lot, and more in the first year

My mom bought a brand new Jeep Cherokee in December of 2019 within the first month things like trim parts were falling off the engine making horrible lifter ticking noise. Almost 3 years later you’d think that this was a 10 year old Jeep with the things falling off, fading from the sun and just broken it instantly changed my mind about the Jeep brand quality

My coworker bought a Jeep Renegade and at 20K miles, it left her stranded on the side of the road. The car had a chip malfunction and it acted as though the transmission had to be replaced… She took it in to the dealer and they figured it out after a few days and it was covered by the warranty, but still it wasn’t fun for my coworker to deal with it, specially when she thought she was driving a brand new car. Don’t get the little “Jeep” branded vehicles. They’re Fiat products.

I have owned four jeeps, two Grand Cherokees and two Wranglers. Three of the four were nothing but problems. Because of this, last week I bought a new vehicle, a Subaru Outback Wilderness Edition.

Ben great point. I got one of the last 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee WK Laredo with Quad Track 2 for 41k CAD out the door. Have the 3.6L and nothing to report. One faulty ground but overall 30k miles on it and been a dream.

I was greatly interested in the Gladiator, but passed on purchasing it. 1) Underpowered. 2) Fuel tank too small. 3) Factory wheels and tires looked silly small. 4) Seemed overly expensive in upper trims for what is actually delivered for all that money. That said, I hope Jeep does well. I love their styling and offroad prowess.

Great Video. My wife has owned two grand cherokee laredos. She loved them both… any problems were taken care of under warranty. Unfortunately, the new grand Cherokee has changed up some trim options so we would have to jump two trim levels up from her current car to get the same features. This means some competition like the Cadillac xt5 is much cheaper. Makes the grand Cherokee a tough buy. Keep up the good work.

I own a 2016 Wrangler as a daily driver. I have not had any issues with the powertrain but it seems like I am always having an issue with minor things. Wheel sensors, window motors, leaks, air bag sensors, A/C motor are some of the ones I can remember. The vehicle always starts and will get me where i need to go, I just don't know what will break next.

I had a 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk that I had bought new in 2019. After 3 years of ownership, I had multiple problems. After 10000 miles the brakes were gone and needed to be replaced. Bought the one with the Turbo 2.0L engine and it would jolt everytime I would accelerate or brake. The hood was changed to aluminum rather than steel for 2019 and the hood would flutter while I was driving. The door lock stopped working and the door just kept bouncing open. When I would goto the Chrysler dealership it was always a fight to get anything covered under warranty. Ended up trading it in after 3 years at 20000 miles. I wouldn't buy another one again.

Great vid, like Jeeps! Just finished amazing 2-month's season out of Sandy - 35 days on ICON so far in 2023, 5th year is a row! My wife gives me 2 months per year, but I am looking at the totals - and am xxoo tempted to sneak out of the house for another week or two... Thanks for great videos!

I remember the first time I took a new Wrangler for a test drive back several years ago because I got a itch to buy one, I liked the looks of them, but soon after leaving the dealer lot the desire to buy one quickly went away, it was noisy, slow, top heavy with vague steering and felt like it would tip over in a turn or if I had to swerve quickly to avoid a accident, it actually felt unsafe to be on a highway ,worse of all it was noisy all the noise from the engine and transmission echoed right thru the floor ,it was a windy day and the canvas top added more noise as the wind made the roof move about, I couldn't wait to take it back to the dealer lot , When I got out and looked at the window invoice , I thought how is this thing worth that price? then I looked at a few used ones at the same lot that were only a few years old and all of them were developing rust on the frames and in places where I wouldn't think rust should be on a vehicle only a few years old, even the door hinges had rust starting! I walked away thinking what a pile of junk !

Looked at jeep, liked the vechicle but the prices are crazy . Jeep grand cherokee , hybird , not the top trim in Canada is 85000 plus taxes etc. Thats 100 000 out the door !

Another reason, in my opinion, is the way Jeep handles issues. A large corporation I used to work for(initials are UPS) did a study and learned that customer loyalty was earned by properly handling errors as much as not creating them. Jeep needs to "own" their lack of reliability and make things right. I would rather eat a bag of dog treats than deal with warranty issues on a Jeep.

We have an '18 Cherokee bought new and it's been flawless. The 4 wheel drive with the stock tires goes really well too.

I was considering a new Wagoneer until I started watching and reading reviews on Jeep/Chrysler. Tried one out, love the looks, and the ride. I might reconsider Wagoneer when they enter their 3rd production year and hopefully have the bugs worked out. Hopefully, but doubt it. They're gaining a bad reputation for unreliability.

Prices……that’s why. 70k for a grand Cherokee , with stuff you can get standard for 40k from a Kia or Hyundai….with a better warranty

Jeep made a point to keep getting product out during the chip shortage height. Then add in the price hikes and some of reliability issues it created a perfect storm. Higher end trims have sold more because they are a solid car and most people in those price ranges aren’t too concerned with costs of issues and stuff going wrong.

I actually really enjoyed test driving the 2022 Jeep Cherokee. The Limited trim, with the V6 engine is smooth and peppy. Unfortunately the 4 cylinder turbo may be the problem for a lot of people. Just not a good long term match.

I brought a 2020 Jeep Grand Cherokee in 2020 and I haven’t had any real issues with it except changed tires. I find it very reliable and a great ride. I got a great deal on it and I am happy with my car.

If you are like me, after hearing about how car dealerships have been screwing customers for the past couple of years, you will keep your car until the wheels fall off (that is not specific to Jeep). I bought a Tesla 2 years ago. Not because I really wanted an electric car or I want to save the world, I hate going to the car dealership. I feel like a pig being led to slaughter. You order your Tesla online, you pick the options you want, you pay the same as everyone else, and you pick it up when it is ready.

They have a lot of leftover 2022 Compasses still on the lot. In California (only I think) there is a $4,000 rebate for three more days. It made me curious so I looked at a local dealer and they have a Latitude that has an MSRP of 35K selling for a little under 28K between the rebate and the dealer discount. Its well equipped. A new AWD crossover with power driver's seat, power liftgate, dual zone climate control, etc... for $27,805 isn't bad.

The lease deals at our local dealer are insane. I haven't seen a "deal" on a lease since 2020.

I have a 2020 trailhawk Cherokee with just over 20k. No problems just routine maintenance. All included in the purchase.

I’m so happy I got my Gladiator last year for a great but still expensive deal. The equivalent to what I got is now $65k that’s just insane.

Comes down to reliability and cost of maintenance for me. I was in the market for a half ton truck last year and ended up buying a low mileage used 5.7 Tundra after looking at Ram, Ford, Gladiator, and the new Tundra. The other trucks seemed to have a lot more features and tech involved in their power trains. To me, this means more issues and expenses when I get to 100k or more miles on the truck.

I was at the Jeep dealer last week I was looking at Cherokee it was like $60,000 I was feeling around inside it is made cheap as hell even the buttons on the steering wheel felt like you could break them very easy…

Purchased my first Jeep on 11/30/22. It is a grand Cherokee Summit Reserve 4xe in hydro blue. Love it. So far it’s been very reliable.

This just makes me appreciate more my 4Runner limited..

great video. i enjoyed your analysis.

Stellantis has a TON of work to do to stop their slide. As covid started, we considered a 2020 Pacifica Hybrid because of the insane deals. The dealership experience was the absolute worst I've ever had. I don't think I'm alone. Pretty soon the only people who will be buying these products will be rental car companies and those with a credit score below 500.

Hi Ben, I have to tell you of all the videos that you’ve done this is been my favorite, a complete analyzation of the company JEEP was done phenomenally I’m asking you this is there any way that you can do the video that you did with the jeep just now can you do that with Lexus? Please let me know when you read these comments. I really appreciate all the work that you do. I love the channel you do a great job. One quick comment. On a personal note I do not buy JEEP as much as I’d like the 392 because of the reliability and dependability factor bottom line. It’s a Chrysler and in my opinion the quality control is absolutely horrible. I’m not crazy about the fit and finish the looks of the vehicle are OK, I like the grand Wagoneer but it’s way over priced. It should be under $100,000 the engine and the transmission is not reliable from what I’ve seen friends that purchased them are going through. Again great channel. Hope to hear from you soon. Peace. Respectfully Submitted, JimmyUSAF 🇺🇸✈️ 🌎⭐️🙏👍

Price, price, price! Car prices have gone up so much, I no longer even look at many of them. And when I go online and use the build it function, I am continually shocked at what price they zoom to after I have added my preferred options. There are a few options I like that I can only get if I pay for option packages and the next thing I see is I have added $10,000 or more to the price, then you add the $2,000 delivery/shipping charge. I am now pretty much limited to the used market now. And even that is pretty grim. So, my current fleet will remain in my driveway for the foreseeable future. They are all paid for and work just fine. I really like Jeeps. Have owned them previously.

I have a 2003 Rubicon, bought it new still running strong , got me through many storms here in West Virginia, used to be a good product but that sun set a long time ago

Hi Ben, Thanks for another informative and interesting video. I have been looking to buy a JL Jeep Wrangler. The top complaint I see from folks is galvanic corrosion issues. Have you heard any news from Jeep on any improvements they have made to fix that problem?

Yes, do a video on Buick. We lease a 2021 Envision and wonder what to do when the lease is over. It's a very reliable car and have been very happy with it.

Wife is on her 5th Grand Cherokee and they’ve been great. I will say the new GC 4XE overland we just got is amazing but the price was insane.

Our 2018 Jeep is great. Never a problem. Great service from our dealership on oil changes and service. Been great. I've owned Jeeps forever. First new one in 97, bought a 99, then an 04, an 03 Rubicon, and a 2018. Never a lemon, all been very dependable.

Had my Rubicon for 3 years going offroad here and there. All stock and not one problem. Love to see any SUV go off-road in places I've been with no issues.

I'd have no problem buying another Cherokee. We own one currently(Limited) and have owned two previously. Yes, there has been a couple very minor issues, thermostat and coolant temperature sensor, but no mechanical issues that the critics had warned about. The 9 speed transmission has been perfectly fine on all of them we've had. Both previous models were equipped with the 2.4L engine and with oversized all-terrain tires on mine, I reached fuel mileage as high as 31 mpg traveling through a rather hilly area. If the Maverick I've ordered didn't get scheduled for production I was going to shop for another Cherokee for myself, too.

I love how he calls 40k affordable in 2016 when I bought my truck that was nuts

I think you nailed it on this video. My wife and I have always been jeep people buy are looking at subaru foresters and rav4 just cause of reliability.

I owned a older Jeep Compass which was a tank and even made it through a snow/ice storm here in Atlanta. To hear about the lack of reliability being near Range Rover is so disappointing to hear.

I keep forgetting that Buick still exists.

Had a 2023 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk on order, but canceled it shortly after before it was built. Primary reason was reliability. Did more research and everywhere kept putting Jeep low on reliability. Also talked with several friends that have Jeeps and they all have problems with them. I just didn't want to take the risk.

Was just going to say that Stallantis is producing more cars than others. Therefore, more on the lot. Stallantis could solve the reliability uneasiness right now by adding a temporary warranty extension. They already have a pretty good warranty. My Wrangler diesel is 100k powertrain warranty. My wife's Cherokee has a 50k powertrain warranty as standard.

Straight up told a Jeep dealer I would not be paying MSRP for a Jeep Grand Cherokee L. He wouldn't budge. His deal came out to close to $1,000 month for a 36 month lease w/ 10k miles.. Told him, no way. His response? "We're sorry this vehicle is out of your budget".... Cool. Turned in my 2020 BMW X3 M40i, told my local BMW sales manager about Jeep. HE said he didn't want me going else where and that he'd order me another X3 M40i and sell it to me at invoice. DONE! Ordered it less than 3 weeks ago, got my production # and my new BMW is already in the production queue. I did swing by that Jeep dealer's website last week. And what did I see? Jeep GCL's are now discounted. I hit up the sales guy saying I noticed this. He replied that yes they were offering discounts and if I was interested in buying again. Told him I ordered a BMW instead.

I've been looking at renegades because they're cute, affordable, practical for my needs, and the awd is surprisingly decent. I was waiting for the 2023 remodel but I've been seeing basic trim levels listed around 38k base msrp, which is like 5k over their previous fully loaded top trim (limited or trailhawk usually maxed out at around 33k ish). For 38k I could find a solid used wrangler. Or I could save the 5k and get a Bronco Sport. The dealerships I've visited also don't seem very desperate to get rid of their inventory. Saw a renegade sit on their lot since early 2022 and they actually increased it's price a few times only to lower it back to the starting price and claiming the price had been 'reduced'.

I was cross shopping several vehicles, including the Jeep Compass, Chevy Blazer, Ford Bronco Sport, and the Subaru Outback last fall. I ended up buying the Outback because I got a lot of car, with the options I wanted, at a fair price. I did not have to pay more than sticker, and I didn't have to forgo the options I wanted because of limited supply. I love Jeeps and miss my 1998 Cherokee almost every day! It was crazy reliable, which apparently can't be said of new Jeeps, but they've priced themselves out of the market for average buyers these days.

Because like all the other manufacturers their prices are insane. All the dealerships keep giving less for more. Junk cars that should be 45k are 65k. Keep it

I am close to the now closed Belvidere, IL Jeep plant and there are tons of Jeeps on the primary and overflow lots just sitting there.

Yes - make a video on Buick and what GM is doing with the brand.

I bought a new car in 2021. I had a 2014 Grand Cherokee before and loved it, had a few issues but they were all covered under warranty. I opted for the Toyota Venza vs a new Grand Cherokee because the Toyota was about $20k cheaper similarly optioned, the Toyota had significantly better fuel economy, and the Toyota should have far better resale value. I like the fit and finish of the Jeep better but at the end of the day the Toyota was just the superior product.

Well I had look into getting a jeep gladiator for off roading and as a hunting vehicle. The price I think is a sticker shock but that over all wheel base is long. There is enough videos out there about jeep cracked windshields from rocks and the cold. I wish there were more off-road packages for the jeeps straight from the factory. That way you wouldn't even need to take it anywhere to change the factory tires out to get the 37-inch tires on, get the gladiator lifted or change out the suspension for a better off road suspension because it would be all part of jeep off road packages. So, driving it off the lot means heading straight out to start off roading. Having more off-road accessories to get installed straight from off road dealership like jeep adds to the incentives of wanting to buy a jeep.

We own a 21 JGCL and absolutely love it, not one problem have we had so far, 27,000 miles

I like the Ford Maverick. Small "utes" and trucks will be selling more for the next five to ten years. I can't wait to see Toyota's version as well as the one from Ram! You are correct about reliability issues as well.

Reliability is a huge, HUGE factor. It is the biggest factor for me. I really wanted a 4xe wrangler but after looking online, the problems that were reported just made me re-think. I am now waiting for the new design of the Tacoma. I hope they offer a plug-in hybrid version with similar capabilities (electric only) as the 4xe.

Had leased two new GC's and both had transmission problems. Spent more time on the dealership lift than on the road.

while all the Jeeps are outher in the cold cold, freezing temp,,,does Dealer start the vehicle once per week just in case?

I’d love to get a Wrangler up here in Canada. I’ve been wanting one for years but the prices when combined with interest rates are bonkers. So I’ll keep driving my 2011 Nissan Xterra Pro 4x that I got for $12k a little longer.

I’ve noticed the Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe’s are piled up and not selling at my local dealership. Not sure why but would be interesting if you looked into it and maybe do a video on it.

Same here in Australia, Jeep GC dropped the diesel V6 and V8 , new model has a lower tow rating by 1000Kg and prices rose considerably as the Australian execs boasted "we want to be a premium brand" . Only problem is reliability reputation/spares parts supply is trash and charging more doesn't suddenly make you a premium brand. It makes you a far more expensive average brand.

May 2022 purchased new 2022 Rubicon 4XE. Paid the dealer markup which for the comparative jeep was still $10,000 less than a Rubicon 2021 model with 10,000 miles on it. That’s how crazy the prices were. Yes dealer markup wasn’t happy about that but still cheaper than the used one at Carmax and that one was not a plug-in hybrid. It’s been a great car we’re very happy with it.

I've owned a 2014 and a 2021 Jeep Cherokee.. Never had a single problem ever.. exceeded expectations winter driving in Northern Alberta Canada.. These Jeeps are great choices. I needed Durango space for big dogs. Or I'd still have it.

Drop the price will sale

I worked a Chrysler dealership when I was a kid and the attitude was, the factory ships it and dealer fixes it under warranty ……so what’s the problem. Customers would come in for their first oil change with a list of things that needed fixing…..it was horrible 😢

I see a lot of RAM vans in this video. FYI, a year ago, I tried to buy either a Promaster or a Transit cargo van to do a self-build camper. Both dealers said it would be a year before they had one in stock, and when they got one in, the commercial customers would have first chance at buying them. So, I "bit the bullet", and bought a Winnebago camper van. I'm curious if cargo vans are now back in stock. (I live in the Maine/NH area.)

I've had a 2017 Wrangler for the last 5+ years, and outside of normal things wearing out at the 5 year mark (brake pads/rotors, tires, battery), it's been as reliable as every other vehicle I've owned. That said, I have looked at an upgrade after seeing the discounts at nearby dealers - and until recently, didn't realize how outrageous the markups are on my target vehicles (Wrangler and Gladiator). I've seen leftover (but still new) 2022s on dealer lots for $10-12k below MSRP, and even found one 2022 Gladiator Rubicon that was discounted nearly $16k. If I do purchase, it'll be on one of those 2022s as the deals are there to be had.

I love it. Jeep's not selling. You could do one that FORD has no inventory and the FORD Bronco is bad joke because of it's problems. GM also has low supply issues. Jeeps problem with buyers is they are charging you for safety features that are standard on other companies. The bottom line is simple it's called the supply chain once again, add the economy. No car company is having a good sales year!

Great video. My new 2023 Trailhawk with 1700 miles has been in the shop for two weeks while corporate figures out the repair. Our new 2021 Rubicon went through a 6+ leaking roof fiasco which was eventually resolved. Strongly considering trading in my 23 trailhawk. Love Jeep, but again, not a great start! Subscribed.

I bought a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2 certified used; somebody backed into it this was during the backlog of automobile parts and body shops being 6 to 8 months or more out so I traded it in on the 2020 WK2 Trailhawk. Three months after I got it one of the key fobs stopped functioning turned out to be a faulty RFID chip which means that you cannot use that key to enter the vehicle without setting off the alarm and activating the engine immobilizer. Luckily I did have a second key fob for the vehicle and I’ve been using that for seven months while I fight with the dealer that sold me the vehicle and Jeep corporate to get a new key fob. I am not the only one that has had these types of minor annoyances from Jeep dealers this is why I’m looking at buying a vintage 4x4 truck rather than keep the Jeep. For reference I am a full-time nomad overlander and content producer living in my Jeep Grand Cherokee.

it’s pretty simple Ben. They are overpriced. Stupid buyers will finance their lives away. It’ll be interesting to see which manufacturers move away from the dealership model in the coming years. That’s half the problem. Markups, terrible service departments, and shady sales tactics.

Jeep's offerings were already wildly overpriced, and they are increasing pricing yet again?? It's no surprise that they aren't selling well. They are feeling emboldened by the 4xe Wrangler doing so well because of federal incentives and low lease costs the past 2 years, and they haven't had to deal with real competition because of Ford's manufacturing delays on the Bronco. I have a $59k MSPR 4xe that I leased for $460/mo with $0 down. If I were to finance it over 6 years in the same $0 down scenario it would cost me $900/mo. There's just no way that a Wrangler is worth that, and Jeep needs a reality check on their pricing for such a bare-bones vehicle.

As a long-time Jeep owner, I think you hit the nail on the head with “off-road adventure brand”. When I look at a Cherokee, Wagoneer, or Renegade I don’t think “off-road adventure vehicle” - I think “ugly station wagon”. I’m honestly not sure who they’re seeing as potential customers for those vehicles.

Guy at work with a 2022 Grand Cherokee V6 with 11k miles just blew his entire motor. Something was wrong after a dealer oil change. First the roller lifter(s) and rocker arm(s). Then this and that. Then Oops, need a NEW engine. A brand new engine was installed under warranty. Also, new catalytic converters under warranty. Took a little over a month for the work to be done as it was substantial.

My 2003 Liberty was sold off last year. I had 235,000 trouble free miles on it. Rust was the sole problem. I replaced it with a 2006 Liberty. I've enjoyed the 2006 for a little over a year and 20,000 trouble free miles. I like the old ones.

From my perspective there are a number of issues that Jeep is facing that is affecting their sales. Price, price, price. Jeep prices particularly on Wranglers have gone insane over the last 15-20 years. And by proxy so has the rest of Jeep’s lineup. The next issue is Jeep has built a reputation for off road performance, the Wrangler, Gladiator, and the higher trim versions of most other models still have great off-road capabilities, but when you look at the majority of Jeeps models and trims, they fall short, the Cherokee name congers visions of lifted XJs withe knobby tires tackling insane off-road terrain, but today’s Cherokee is not that and because of its design, never could be that, and the Compass and Renegade are even more useless. Even the legendary Grand Cherokee is not the vehicle it used to be, now sporting all wheel drive instead of the 4 wheel drive version of it’s past. The infusion of Fiat-Alfa DNA into the Jeep lineup has further watered down the lower half of Jeeps lineup, and well lets not sugarcoat it, the Compass and it’s twin the Patriot have always been absolutely terrible vehicles and never should have worn the Jeep name.

Here's some of the complaints I've received from many tech's working at a Jeep Dealerships. The E-torque is the biggest issue, whether it be the 2.0 litre or the 3.6 and many Ram truck owners. I had alway purchased a Jeep wrangler, but when Jeep decided to use E torque on the 3.6 and I viewed all the componets for this engine it turned me off. I decided to move up to the Jeep Gladiator with the regular 3.6 and have no issues. Yet my neighbor purchased a Jeep Wrangler rubicon 4 dr. and the day he came home, the next day one of the 30 mile coolant line was leaking. He was told parts on back order. Dealer took back the Jeep and he also ended up taking delivery of a Jeep Rubicon with Manual trans. He spoke to several mechanics in the shop and they had 3 other new Wranglers in the lot with the same issues. My wife had special ordered a 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk with the 3.6 and after seeing all the problems with the 2022 and 2023 Grand Cherokee she said I'm keeping my Jeep. Also, like you mentioned, interest rates are out of sight! We bought ours in 2021 and we got both with a 3.49% rate. Plus we also received 2,000 discount for loyal customers. By the way I'd give the rest of my hair to buy a Jeep Wrangler 392 but with Interest rates so high its just a dream! LOL. John

They should do what Kia and Hyundai did. Raise the manufacturer warranty to 10 years or 100k miles if they truly believe there vehicles are reliable.

Their reliability is getting SO bad, a lot less people want Jeep vehicles. One of the more important expectations when buying a brand new vehicle is that it will not have any problems for a few years or a bunch of miles.

After reading alot of comments, I have to say I'm very happy with our 2019 Durango with the 3.6L. 65k on the odometer

Those small Jeeps are made by Fiat in Italy, which is enough to dissuade me from buying one. I remember when Fiat was a stand-alone brand in the 1970s and their cars were problems right off the lot. The modern Fiat 500 is similar, but its issues start at about 25K - 30K miles (from folks I know who own them). I'm surprised Jeep doesn't bring back the older version of the basic Cherokee that was discontinued (in about 2004, IIRC). Great SUV, it had a long lifecycle where all the problems had been worked out of it. Simple to maintain, a reliable I-6 engine, 2WD or 4WD. Sure it would need upgrades for safety features and environmental requirements, but other than that it should be a great seller.

The 18 Renegade I owned was subpar in many ways, but the biggest problem was excessive oil burning. I ended up selling it at a loss. The Cherokee is being discontinued and the Compass is not as impressive as its competitors

At home we have a 2020 jeep cherokee with 31k miles on it. A month ago the engine light came on on the dashboard, we went to a scanner and it gave an error P018C... he took the dealer after waiting for an appointment for almost 15 days, it was a thermal protector that should protect a gas emission sensor , which was not installed at the factory, therefore the sensor was fused. Fortunately, that car at home has little use, since the dealer informed us that if the engine had overheated, the car could have caught fire. The fact is that we are already planning to change brand.

My local dealership has well over a hundred vehicles of varying new Jeep models sitting on the lot right now. I would guess almost half of those are Gladiators.

Jeep has way to many different versions of their products that is an issue that nobody talks about.

I purchased a new Jeep Cherokee and after 38000 miles a freeze plug came out of the engine. Unfortunately, the freeze plug was inside the bell housing to the transmission so they had to pull the engine and transmission to replace a $20 part. Of course it was not under warrantee at that point. No more Jeep products for me.

I have a 2016 Grand Cherokee and it’s reliable. Really nothing to complain about. I love how well equipped and though thru it is. For some reason I’m not appealed to a new one which I’m not sure why, maybe they’re too common.