How did it go?

@@Wangchung405 they were second to the mizuno pro 225 for me, very similar in performance for me it came down to the looks behind the ball. Mizuno just had a larger footprint and was more confidence inspiring. Could easily see myself playing either though.

@@brocsmith1944 nice thanks for the response! I’ll have to check out those mizunos!

@@Wangchung405 they were awesome for me, pictures online don’t do them justice. Stunning iron in person.

You can’t order i210 anymore, ping quit taking orders because they are so backed up with orders

I know where your coming from. At the time of i500 launching it was in comparison to other ping irons a good looking club. Since that video using i500 and seeing sets and more I pick it the more I didn’t like it both shape of the head and sound. Looking at the back of the club looks clean. Fast forward 4/5 years and again in comparison to other clubs in this category I feel the i525 look and shape are good. Intro of Blurprints, i59 much better shaping imho 👍

@@MichaelNewtonGolf Thanks for answering! Ok fair to compare to other models like that but that's not mentioned on the video. I remember looking at your video of i500 and went to test it and almost threw up in my mouth after first hit, it felt horrible. For a "players" club it was instant disgust, I still get shivers seeing someone have them in a bag. Also seen tons of them for sale used. Will test i525 but not expecting a ton from it, seem like it's basically i500 with some hotmelt and more grooves. I understand you can't criticize manufacturers in review videos I just hope we could get a bit better picture of what you really feel about a club. Based on the i500 review one could assume you really liked the feel, those are direct quotes from your video..

got no issues criticising brands, no brand holds a gun to our (UKpostsrs) heads. I only say it as I see it at the time.

I have to say I agree with the original comment. How can someone ie Mr Newton state that the i500 is awesome, and use other such superlatives in his description then say he didn't really like the i500 whilst reviewing the i525. Many subscribers of club reviewers use their comments to judge what to test when selecting clubs. So it is disappointing to take that advice on board when infact the reviewer subsequently states they didn't really like the i500. I'm sure there can be many improvements in club design, so should we consider the comments Mr Newton makes on today's 'superlative' models only to dismiss them once new models come out.

LOL

Similar forgiveness

You can always combo as you please, any golf shop should be able to do it for you.

I just ordered Gen 3 Pxg P irons, they were reasonably priced and shipped in a few days. I’m thrilled, you might check those out too

@@joshkrolicki9631 Anything having to do with Bob Parsons would be a hard no for many of us.

@@MichaelM-to4sg why? Don’t know much about him

@@MichaelM-to4sg why is that

@@adamvlassis4090 Do you’re own independent research. He was kicked off board of the company that he made his fortune due to behavior and comments he made. I warn you, anyone with female’s in their life and who cares about racial equality will be disturbed.

I tested the i525, t100, t200 and Mizuno 223s today at golf galaxy. It was close between 223s and i525s but the Ping will probably go in my bag next

What handicap do you need to be for these irons? Thank you

@@user-dd1bb4tw4r very forgiving??

@@brodygoalie I wouldn’t say it’s as forgiving as say the G425 irons or other game improvement irons, but it does maintain distance should you hit thin and you won’t lose as much should you hit fat. I like how I can shape my shots and still get extra distance without loss of spin. Plus I like the gap yardage with the clubs (about 10 yards consistently). I also think up to a 15 hcp could play these clubs, but truthfully I think if you’re committed to learning good sound swing mechanics these clubs would be beneficial. That said if you’re just starting out I’d recommend game improvement irons and move up to player distance irons when you think you’d benefit from the reduced offset in terms of shot shaping. Hope this helps.

@@user-dd1bb4tw4r all those are great clubs. I also tried the t100, Mizuno pro 225 (not the 223) and the P770. It came down to feel for me with the Ping i525, but those other irons were also excellent.

I’m wondering the same thing, except I have the G410 irons. Very interested in these irons but I would like to know the differences

i525 is much more compact head design. it's a player's distance iron - HCP 18 and lower is the group for i525

very true

Same here. Never played and will probably never plays Ping has it suits their player types but not the general market imo.

What is the purpose of Hosel relief

@@BuffaloNickel9 the relief is supposed to make djustability in lie angle easier iirc

@@trvansant are you guys referring to that deep cut slant that's in the hosel of all Ping clubs? I wouldn't call that hosel relief that's a proprietary Factory cut-in.. If so your reply does make sense, I have heard that it is for changing the lie angle for technicians. I don't mind it one bit, it sure doesn't affect playability or function! It's Unique. Ping makes great playing clubs. The only function that serves is basically for Club technicians to adjust light angle basically a spot for the tool to clamp onto. I thought you guys were maybe referencing some type of hosel relief grinds like on wedges where they do heel relief grinds like tiger loves making it more easy to open the face... If so the only thing I could think for hosel Relief grinds would be to stop shanks players who like to strike the ball closer to the heel.

Most of the ‘forged hollow body’ competitors are in fact forged main chassis. Some do weld on a different face but the main chassis to which the hosel is integrated is a forging. This is only model I’ve seen that’s primarily a cast chassis. I’m talking Mizuno 225, P770/790, ZX5/7, T100S, Apex Pro and X Forged CB

That’s because nobody has them!

They are cheaper

Do you seek lower swingweight? I’ve played D2-3 for most of my life. I’m former very low-scratch golfer. At 63 years, I can’t say that any longer, at least from the blue’s, but mid-summer I’m commonly in upper 70’s-low 80’s from the blues. The lower mass and 1/2” longer graphite shaft increases swingweight. If D0 is graphite swingweight, a 130g DG shaft will likely be C4-6.

The i500 kinda sound awful for something that says forged on them but they look pretty decent

The i500s are for total wankers

Wowsers

I think your 210s would still feel softer and better. But if you need forgiveness, i think its worth a shot

It will be interesting to try as my i210 are cast . The forging on the new i525 might get similar feelings.

Completely agree. I wonder if one can order a progressive set mixing the ‘traditional lofts’ with standard and power lofts to achieve a more suitable gapping. The cast 17-4 heads are not going to take well to adjustment in loft and/or lie thus much better to order desired angles new than attempting to adjust.

What other set(s) are you comparing it too to say they are expensive. 200$ a club is a great price for new clubs. Other sets going for near same.orice as well, 200-300 per iron.

@@thisjustanother Except they are not. If you buy 5i-PW set from Ping that is £1200. I can get the Rogue ST Pro for £729, the P790s for £1030, the Cobra LTDx for £730, even the Mizuno 225s are "only" £1100. And this before you consider really cheap but good sets from PXG & Wilson. So Ping have positioned these irons at the top end of the price range.

@@justinstephenson9360 rogue st pro irons on their website are going for 1200$, the P790s are 1300$, the LTDx are game improvement irons so they are meant to be cheaper (800$)and for higher handicap. just because you yourself are able to get something cheaper doesnt mean everyone else is. you're hatred for a company is sad and irrelevent to their product they aim to produce.

@@thisjustanother The price for the Rogue irons was from American Golf a multi outlet retailer in the UK and so the basic retail price. The basic price here in UK is £1200 for 6 irons, and sometimes higher. I do not hate Ping, I play Ping irons, the i210s, and they are wonderful. It is not my bias you should consider but yours

like for like iron......both hollow and same lofts.....BUT the Mizuno much cleaner on the looks and feel is much better over the Ping!

@@MichaelNewtonGolf Yep ... thats my opinion also

Exactly. Why is it so hard to make the club not sound bad? As you said, PXG does it even with the 0211s which sound great. And Ping's solution is to just put hot melt in the there? Such a crude solution. I love Ping but that's too much money for a club that sounds bad.

I got fitted for a set of the pxg 0211 st blades. Beautiful irons, ridiculously good price when they went on sale. Truly incredible blades from pxg I was blown away. They aren’t my current gamers, Wilson CB’s are in the bag right now, but these 0211 ST’s you mentioned are a very close to staying in permanently.

Closer together. I’m sure they are conforming 😄

what do you currently play?

Should be getting more distance with those speeds. What was your launch and spin like? Which launch monitor?

@@MichaelNewtonGolf I'm sure it had to do with ball striking I was swinging over the top pretty bad gotta fix that AGAIN. Played golf for 20 years off and on and still make amateur mistakes lol

Blue is 0.75 upright, green is 2.25

Not at all, lol, it's lovely to see them immediately on release day!

Why?

This isn’t Joe Schmuck UKpostsr making content in his mom’s basement 🤣🤣. Michael is I believe a professional golf fitter/instructor. It’s common for professional’s such as he to receive product ahead of retail release. Even more so in this digital content era, it’s a form of marketing strategy

@@MichaelM-to4sg Have absolute no issue with Michael...he is really good...its the whole principle of these and other products being released to test so far ahead of the actual retail release

Michael im not sure you arent mistaken on a few things. The 525’s are more of a “scoring” iron, or a “players” distance iron. They are taylored for low to low-mid handicappers. Are you thinking they are a game improvement iron? Like a 15-30 handicap? They arent. I also believe only the Z5’s are are comparible to the group you listed. All the rest are game improvement irons designed for mid to high handicaps. Comparisons for 525’s are 225, Z5, 790, hot metal pro. While this is certainly not intended to be argumentative, i was just fit today and went with 525’s, im pretty sure what im saying is accurate. Im a 10 handicap and explained i was looking to try and get that to a 5. The clubs i listed are the clubs i hit. When i specifically asked about 223’s and 770’s he said, and i quote, “those wont help you, they are for mid to high handicaps”. “They are bigger, thicker and for players that have slower swing speeds to gain max distance and forgivness.” “They are for players just trying to hit a green.” If im mistaken i apologize, but thats the way i understand it explained from a fitter.

@@fuzzybanana3870 You either misunderstood your fitter or more likely your fitter intentionally misled you. Likely he/she witnessed your swing and determined your ball striking was too inconsistent for the clubs I listed. If you specifically look at the 223 and P770 within their oe’s lineup, the 223 slots between the 221 blades and 225 hollow body distance clubs. The 223 is smaller, less offset and a 1-piece forging, unlike the 225. The P770 is the smaller, less offset version of P790. In similar terms, Ping offers the hollow body i59 for the better ball striker while the subject i525 is its new bigger, wider soled, hollow bodied brother in lineup for those whose ball striking might be less consistent. I would agree the i525 comps are 225 or JPX921, ZX5, P790, T200, Rogue ST Pro or DCB 21. Congrats on the purchase, hope they bring improved scoring to your game in 22

@@MichaelM-to4sg good info, thanks for reply. Definately wasnt misled as i asked questions before swinging to not get a bias. I do hope the 525’s do the trick. Far better than my 12 yr old burner 2.0’s. Im a 10 handicap so hopefully they can help get me to a 5-7 or better. They were crazy consistent even on a few slight mishits. Even more impressed with what the fitting info can teach you. I now know i have a tendency to hit toward toe more often than not, which is crazy seeing how i hit the 7 iron 172 carry consistently. Cant wait to see how much better i hit when i fix that issue. Irons have never been an issue for me and i dont hit the sweet spot 7 outta 10 shots. 😂😂😂

@@fuzzybanana3870 I honestly think your fitter was doing you a favor. Folks going in for a fitting looking to try more than 2-3 different irons, 4 at very most, is exercise in futility that rarely nets good results. There’s so many factors for a fitter to consider, a skilled fitter will observe your swing, note your consistency and misses, the dynamic loft and lie to determine your angle of attack and listen to the customers goals, likes and dislikes. While you and I have similar 7-iron length, our fitting and goals would be vastly different resulting in very different club builds. For example, distance is not a priority for me and forgiveness on toe-heal hits is unnecessary. I want a club I can control ball flight and minimizes turf interaction. Small heads, narrow soles giving high spin rates are my favor. The i525 with its very strong lofts, wide sole and large cast construction doesn’t suit my game. That’s where fitter skill is so important. They listen to what you’re looking to achieve and observe your swing dynamics. They then offer a limited selection of most suitable offerings while keeping customer from being distracted by a club that would be ill-suited for the characteristics of their swing, regardless of what customer thinks they want. Call it a fitter that mislead you or not, I think he/she did what was necessary to keep you focussed on products best suited for your stated goals and your ball striking.

@@MichaelM-to4sg Oh absolutely. My fitter i thought did a fantastic job. I hit i believe 5 heads and we/he eliminated 2 in short order. I agree with distance, its not overly important conpared to apex and decent for that stopping power. Spin rate was fine. We agreed a 1 degree weak to help apex was correct choice so opted for 31.5 degrees on 7 for example, help that height. Overall was/am very happy with results and purchase. Believe after acclimation of new sticks they will be far better than my old ones. Thought fitter explained what he was doing amd more importantly, why.

The i525's are one of the better looking hollow irons on the market, imo. Their Blueprint is decent looking, but not as pretty as the mb 620 or the mizunos.

😬

If you mean the notch at the back that has been a Ping signature for decades, it makes it easier for club fitters to bend the heads. You will never notice at address

@@justinstephenson9360 But it will notice when it's sticking out of your bag, which is the majority of the time. Remember, the first bite is with the eye... as it were.

sounds like you don't like them Adam 😂

@@MichaelNewtonGolf lol touché

I’ll go with the pings after trying 5 different brands out, including the mizunos

@@NZFarmboy80 exactly just got fitted today can’t even hit mp 225 straight or make clean contact lol my fitter said 525 over g425 and tm 790 lol

Typical Ping!

Ping always seems like a wana be to me. I game their driver and woods. I am willing to overlook the sound in exchange for the performance. But at the price point for these irons, unless they have the feel of a true forged, they will have problems competing with Mizuno 225, Apex, Sub70, TM and PXG all have filled cavities and same distance. The i85 had aluminum structure added. i525 a few lines of hot metal.

@@JohnnyDSR totally i had ping both iron and woods, woods are much better. But its crazy i find best distance from tsi2

@@CoryLancasterYT yea first thing that jump out is that sharp clicking sound