Data is the New Oil

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New Discourses Bullets, Ep. 23
You have probably heard the quip: "data is the new oil." What does that mean, and what does it imply? In this episode of New Discourses Bullets, host James Lindsay walks you through the concept, making it clear that data, like oil and gold before it, are not just extremely valuable commodities but can also serve as the basis for the next iteration of our currency. This has profound implications for life in the coming digital era if we don't get ahead of it now by passing robust data privacy, ownership, and protection legislation. This is truly an issue of global importance!
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@MrAbrahamleon
@MrAbrahamleon Рік тому
Without property you have no rights. Without privacy you have no freedom.
@hermeticinstrumentalist6804
@hermeticinstrumentalist6804 Рік тому
Very well typed.
@psyphistk4638
@psyphistk4638 Рік тому
As a cyber security engineer this stuff absolutely scares the crap out. People grossly underestimate how much telemetry data is collected against them on a regular basis. Everything you do is logged and recorded.
@greensmurf221
@greensmurf221 Рік тому
Yeah, honestly I don't think people truly grasp what's happening unless they work in the tech world - I try to tell people but their eyes just glaze over and call me paranoid :/
@janeellis8112
@janeellis8112 Рік тому
I wonder if they can Mind control People or collect data to create a new brain if they inject optogenetics proteins and a receiver into you. Can the light from the screen then manipulate your thoughts? This stuff should have definitely be worked through 2 decades ago.
@AlexTamayo.
@AlexTamayo. Рік тому
@@greensmurf221 I have been trying to warm my friends and family about these stuff for over a decade and they always give the typical "I have nothing to hide", "who is going to be looking for my information" kind of responses. I try showing them news articles about these companies and governments gathering crazy amounts of data on them and they still don't care... I have learnt that unfortunately logic and facts isn't enough to persuade normal people, emotions are far more effective, but governments, these companies, etc. are far more effective at emotionally manipulating people than I would ever be or would like to be.
@4Mikes4Mindset4
@4Mikes4Mindset4 Рік тому
@@AlexTamayo. what advice do you have that you would share with me who does care. I know it's bad and always have buy give me any gems and solutions you think I should know, if you like. 🙏
@AlphariusandOmegon
@AlphariusandOmegon Рік тому
I use a Express VPN anytime Im online, does that help disguise my online activity or no?
@TheRealMrMustache
@TheRealMrMustache Рік тому
John Deere is one of the worst offenders in terms of violating customers right to ownership, and trying to remove all ownership from the customer
@coreybassard
@coreybassard Рік тому
Im a CAT guy anyways 😂 but CAT sees everything also.
@chinocracy
@chinocracy Рік тому
Looks like all the big companies, Apple and other tech companies, that did it first likely, are doing this.
@therainman7777
@therainman7777 Рік тому
Just curious-what exactly do you mean by “customers right to ownership?” As a private company, doesn’t John Deere have the right to set up whatever type of contract with its customers that it wants, provided it’s not doing anything illegal? And then the customers can choose to walk away, if they don’t like the terms. Isn’t that just part of the free market? Who says that a business’s customers have a right to own something? Not saying that I condone what John Deere is doing, I’m genuinely just curious what you meant by “right to ownership.”
@aakkoin
@aakkoin Рік тому
I have JD tractors x3.... It's fine.
@malhenning1608
@malhenning1608 Рік тому
sandvik (u/g mining) is the same lol.
@shindig9000
@shindig9000 Рік тому
Scary to think of what they have all already tracked that you're not aware of but I think a lot of people can brush it off because they think that they're too unimportant to be tracked
@derrichtigearzt8932
@derrichtigearzt8932 4 дні тому
Because a couple years ago it was still true. But they turned boring unimportant data into a valuable commodity if gathered in sufficient quantity. When you try to explain to the try to frame it like this. A single grain of wheat is probably about as inexpensive as a food item can get. But we don't grow wheat by handfuls, we grow it by millions of tons, because it's relatively easy.
@matweb8195
@matweb8195 Рік тому
We are probably on the naughty list for listening to this.
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 7 місяців тому
Definitely possible that we all are
@cursedcancersurvivor
@cursedcancersurvivor Рік тому
I wonder if James has heard of Louis Rossman, he's been fighting the lobbyists at John Deere for the "right to repair" act I think it's called for a while. Apple does the same thing, it's super scummy. You don't own the property that you bought with your own money.
@kwazhims3lf
@kwazhims3lf Рік тому
huh? loui who? well anyway, back to listening to this electronic repair guy bitch non STOP about new york
@WTFSt0n3d
@WTFSt0n3d Рік тому
I just had a company thing and a Google dude was invited for the key note. He just said exactly this in his presentation wtf?
@scillyautomatic
@scillyautomatic Рік тому
They don't even know to be ashamed of what they are doing! 😬
@J-Ton
@J-Ton Рік тому
Was he complimentary or critical of this idea?
@WTFSt0n3d
@WTFSt0n3d Рік тому
Yeah. The howl thing was uploading brains, meta, immortality shit. These guys are high on their own farts
@WTFSt0n3d
@WTFSt0n3d Рік тому
@@J-Ton he thinks that data could help to increase productivity. If europe doesn't do it china and usa will. And we can be these happy circle of equals and all but it won't work. At least he sounded really minarchist. Like governments are in the way for bold technology. But then it had the taste of technocracy, wef, klaus and harari there. It was kinda weird
@JohnRylander
@JohnRylander Рік тому
Deeply insightful, as usual, James -- thank you!
@aakkoin
@aakkoin Рік тому
Farmer here. NPK is the scientific name for the most important nutrients in the fertilizer. Hydrogen, kalium and phosphorus, and stuff.
@greensmurf221
@greensmurf221 Рік тому
Your point on John Deer tractors is correct - also why they're shoving computer systems in cars. Right-to-Repair has been under attack for a long time, because heaven forbid you fix your own shit w/o knowing any coding now.
@abramgaller2037
@abramgaller2037 Рік тому
This is a different thread but this adds to the case for abolishing intellectual property laws.
@abramgaller2037
@abramgaller2037 Рік тому
@@AdamA-pm3yn I can't think of any examples in which , arguably, intellectual property has served the interests of the general welfare in the past one hundred fifty years.
@gregtaylor9806
@gregtaylor9806 Рік тому
@abram galler - Because every aspect of human life doesn’t need to be devoted to ‘the general welfare’ Thats they exact perspective that generates all this nonsense.
@abramgaller2037
@abramgaller2037 Рік тому
@@gregtaylor9806 All activity by government should be for the general welfare..
@abramgaller2037
@abramgaller2037 Рік тому
@@AdamA-pm3yn It is up to you to provide overwhelming evidence that some $ 200 billion dollars wasted of taxpayer's money is not wasted. It is all broken . Finish your pudding.
@beansabina3281
@beansabina3281 Рік тому
Excellen! Thank you James!
@alleadonai
@alleadonai Рік тому
That's dirty John Deere. Thanks again, Dr. Lindsay!
@krunchyapples
@krunchyapples Рік тому
We have needed stronger data privacy protections for more than a decade, but the issue keeps being pushed to the wayside
@glenngordon2792
@glenngordon2792 Рік тому
Great work James. Thank you!
@stevenlightfoot6479
@stevenlightfoot6479 Рік тому
This is good. James, you are great.
@DefenderPuma
@DefenderPuma Рік тому
Free Software and Free hardware are the answers. Farmers need to become innovators to reverse engineer and/or replace these devices. There is a lot of Free Software but "Free Hardware" is needed. Please have a look at Richard Stallman's work if you are not familiar. "Either the users control the software or the software controls the users" - RMS
@marcus8710
@marcus8710 Рік тому
Ian? Is that you?
@andersjohnson9565
@andersjohnson9565 Рік тому
Just to flesh out the tractor argument, if traders find out that yield will be higher than otherwise expected, then the price of the futures contracts that farmers sell to their distributors will decrease. OTOH, this can also work out to the farmer's advantage if it goes in the opposite direction.
@tomski2671
@tomski2671 Рік тому
The argument is that somebody is steeling your data (and your neighbor's) to benefit themselves. If they paid you for it then no problem. Moreover they are screwing either you or other counterparties who did not steel the data.
@michaelscholes8956
@michaelscholes8956 Рік тому
Exactly. I don’t see this as an inherently negative thing
@CoPaVolvo
@CoPaVolvo Рік тому
more people need to understand this.
@tribebuddha
@tribebuddha Рік тому
What can anyone do even if they realize what's happening, that each and every activity they do on their phones and computers is recorded and used against them. Truly dystopian.
@weathforjr
@weathforjr Рік тому
I definitely appreciate that my comments critical of Dr. Lindsay's position aren't visible when I sign out and check the video. Thank you for participating in and helping to enable the neon dystopia we find ourselves in.
@michaelscholes8956
@michaelscholes8956 Рік тому
Are you suggesting that ND is censoring your comments on their channel? Interestingly, I’ve experienced the disappearance of my own comments on other channels when recommending ND to others. At any rate, I for one would def like to hear opposing viewpoints on this issue
@michaelscholes8956
@michaelscholes8956 Рік тому
Btw… I see your “wish harder” comment if that’s what you are referring to
@weathforjr
@weathforjr Рік тому
Apologies for the tardy reply. I'm not on yt much. I think it was a bullet point video where I criticised Dr. Lindsay and academics in general for always being just smart enough to swing the metaphorical sword, but always suddenly being dumb enough, when it comes time for conclusions or solutions to foget the shield. This pattern is everywhere. Remove or add just enough ballast to move the angle, but never enough to right the ship; and I think it's on purpose. I've also had yt edit my posts in the past without my knowledge or consent, and I've also had yt delete posts of mine before. That's why I've largely jumped ship a long time ago. Mostly, I have to remember that this, and 99% of these "right wing" presentations are a "show". Infotainment. They're there to provide just enough resistence for it to feel like a difference is being made, but never enough to win the tug of war. That's pretty much my entire critique. My solutions are S.E.E.R.I. Survive Escape Evade Resist Insulate Which is just more or less what you'll find in Sun Tzu or Book of 5 rings (which also conspicuously never get mentioned) Maie yourself unassailable and insulate yourself from them. Which is another reason I think these guys are all controlled op. (Shrug) Take it easy. Have a good rest of your weekend.
@weathforjr
@weathforjr Рік тому
I think it was another video though. I'm kind of a one trick pony with my criticisms because they're a 1 trick pony with their conclusions. It's never anything useful or productive, ala the point of platforms like youtube in our conus iia ops 2022 world.
@konberner170
@konberner170 Рік тому
Knowledge is power. If knowledge about you is accumulated enough by others, who will have power over your life? Digital id is extremely dangerous to liberty and every large tech company is aggressively pursuing it. When Windows refuses to function without setting up a user account, you know that you can't buy an O/S any more: you are the product, even if you think you are paying for it.
@JTNugget
@JTNugget Рік тому
A James Corbett listener? Nice.
@DeltaShadowbanned
@DeltaShadowbanned Рік тому
what search engine should we use? im dissapointed in all of them
@greensmurf221
@greensmurf221 Рік тому
There really isn't a great one - One could maybe make the argument for Yandex, but it's too close to the RU gov't. The only real option out there right now is to build your own web crawler but I don't expect most people to do that.
@taryn2736
@taryn2736 Рік тому
consider qwant
@Nurhaal
@Nurhaal Рік тому
This is actually EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HEAR. EVERYONE needs to hear this from James. It's 100% spot on and accurate. The CCP comment? I'm sure James knows but, maybe not? However Xi Jingping actually stated at an address to the party several years ago that the most valuable things to China is DATA AND A.I. NOT WEAPONS. NOT MONEY. NOT NUKES. NOT OIL. DATA AND A.I. are the Future, he said. He also said that China's next progression is in that new future and that they're heavily invested into those two primary resource developments. The DATA is used to map all capital, human, IDEOLOGICAL, consumer, monetary, everything - DATA is used to map it all. Artificial Intelligence will be used to Manage it all. It's a Technocratic Authoritarian wet dream. It's literally the birth of the Matrix. What the hell do you all think 'Meta' is for! You'll live in your pod, you'll the bugz! These are not memes, these are real! They know that at the end of the day, you only need dense calories and some suppliments to maintain the body (bugs be good for that). You can be otherwise sedated by being always hooked up into a digital world, there for shrinking your overall footprint (hence pods). A.I. can formulate stimuli to keep you distracted. Meanwhile the rulers over us all have the entire world to themselves. This is the future if we do not stand up and call it out.
@snoway397
@snoway397 Рік тому
Sad but true 👍
@TheRealMrMustache
@TheRealMrMustache Рік тому
SAAS is going to be the undoing of personal ownership
@tomhitchcock8195
@tomhitchcock8195 Рік тому
There’s a Hillsong song named “Oceans”.
@jessemontano762
@jessemontano762 Рік тому
Is that you jamming, James??? Cool
@flowerjpotter1629
@flowerjpotter1629 Рік тому
James, where will it end.
@rcasey9004
@rcasey9004 3 місяці тому
Michelle Malkin had been reporting on this for a decade. Without context, maybe. I’d love to see James and Michelle talk.
@rogerleeaustin
@rogerleeaustin Рік тому
Psychodata: disassembling the psychological, economic, and statistical infrastructure of ‘social-emotional learning’ by Ben Williamson published in the Journal of Education Policy on 4.10.2019. Link to the pdf below. 27-page article + references. www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/114769114/WilliamsonB_2019_JEP_Psychodata.pdf
@JohnChandlerEdmonton
@JohnChandlerEdmonton Рік тому
The A is agreeableness
@briggy4359
@briggy4359 11 місяців тому
But James-- was the watch right about your friend???
@arcadealchemist
@arcadealchemist Рік тому
yup cos getting as much information on you will mean JUDGEMENT comes the day you are BORN due to your family and if you are allowed to BREED. they made sure that some breed of humans are considered more valued than others
@abramgaller2037
@abramgaller2037 Рік тому
Data can be very valuable, but it can never be as fungible as gold, silver, or petroleum.
@AtrusOranis
@AtrusOranis Рік тому
While I agree there is much to be concerned about with data collection, I don't fully get how it ties in with being the basis of a currency. While I actually understand that practically *everything* can become a basis of a currency, the way you described it cannot make a majority of people put intrinsic faith in it, which is how ANY currency becomes a currency. Even if the worst happens and the US goes full Digital Dollar, if people lose trust in it they will turn to something else. Yeah, it might be a black market currency, but people will still use it, because they can trust it more than the funny money the government can just take from them because they decided your key strokes could lead to wrongthink.
@bludeuce3855
@bludeuce3855 Рік тому
the digital dollar wont get far and wouldnt work if theres no power due to renewables
@StephensCrazyHour
@StephensCrazyHour Рік тому
Oh ye of little imagination. You will be quite perfectly fine if you wish to live in abject poverty. But if you want to participate in the same society that everyone else is living in, you will be required to use the currency because that will be the only legitimate currency that you are allowed to be paid in. The currency will be tied to your behaviour and if you don't provide enough data for the behaviour, your currency will be docked. So yes, a black market will emerge, but you cannot create a good society based on a black market. So your choice will be black market/no regulation/poverty or the social credit currency system that nobody ever asked for or wanted. This is just another attempt at fulfilling the "mark of the beast" pattern, and like every other time that has been tried, it is ultimately destined to fail because it is unsustainable. But it will generate huge amounts of misery before it is done.
@dhaltonmiller1215
@dhaltonmiller1215 Рік тому
James if you could get KIR ammo to make bullets with that logo I would buy them
@dhaltonmiller1215
@dhaltonmiller1215 Рік тому
Lol I think your friend was dropping some hints....
@beefpepperoni6323
@beefpepperoni6323 Рік тому
Is this a sign that I should pursue data science?
@StephensCrazyHour
@StephensCrazyHour Рік тому
There will be lots of jobs available for psychopaths in the future. When "big data" became a common industry term around 2010 or thereabouts I was concerned with what it could do. I've since become paranoid to the point where I barely even visit websites that I don't have to any more. Except youtube, which has me by the dopamine receptors.
@beefpepperoni6323
@beefpepperoni6323 Рік тому
@@StephensCrazyHour this doesn’t answer my question.
@StephensCrazyHour
@StephensCrazyHour Рік тому
@@beefpepperoni6323 you're right. I turned over two pages at once. Data science is so horrifying right now I genuinely think you need to be a psychopath to do it.
@marcus8710
@marcus8710 Рік тому
I thought today's episode was Luke Rudowski instead of James
@BitcoinMeister
@BitcoinMeister Рік тому
There will be many "incentives" provided for opting into the future central bank digital currency- Negative interest rates, discount on all sorts of products, etc... DO NOT FALL FOR IT. It is that simple. Just do not use the future central bank digital currency, sadly most people will and that will provide enough "controlling data" for the government. Remember you will be opting into your own digital slavery! Be strong and avoid the temptation. Bitcoin is the answer.
@preachersd2r609
@preachersd2r609 Рік тому
Alternative community already exists with local trade markets but you have to want to live old school
@SoApost
@SoApost Рік тому
Totally hypothetical: could they already be using customized suggestions in search results and feeds to profiled children to a point of intentionally artificially inflating the number of school ‘crises’ today?
@crabmannyjoe2
@crabmannyjoe2 Рік тому
If there is an incentive to do so and people depraved enough to make it happen, yes.
@janeellis8112
@janeellis8112 Рік тому
Cybernetics.
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Рік тому
🌓Google: Move on petition stop Amazon censorship🌗
@LouisGedo
@LouisGedo Рік тому
👋
@bagshaft
@bagshaft 2 місяці тому
Listening to this (and I plan to read the paper) all I can think is that the Amish aren't wrong... they were just a little early.
@Tadesan
@Tadesan Рік тому
Ethnic money people.
@KrunoslavStifter
@KrunoslavStifter Рік тому
...until you need the oil to run the data collecting and processing machines. To paraphrase Putin. My gas and oil is better than your ones and zeros.
@metalrules1135
@metalrules1135 Рік тому
How will we get data privacy though? Data mining is so covert already, people are being mined and don't even know they are. How will you be able to limit this? The back doors and workarounds will be endless even if you pass legislation about doing it. You'll just have to agree to terms of service to use things that will sign away your right to privacy. That is pretty much the case already. I know this is a huge issue, but practically speaking, how can you put the cat bag in the bag?
@danielwarton5343
@danielwarton5343 Рік тому
A good friend of mine mines crypto through his body movements via his smart watch. He wants me to join because you get rewards. I’ve said no. He’s pretty switched on to the WEF etc but still thinks this is a good idea.
@taryn2736
@taryn2736 Рік тому
MS has a patent about exactly this from years ago and includes injectables. 😉 The patent says they'll award crypto based on how closely your body movements match the movements necessary to complete a task you have been assigned. They want to enslave people into being automatons.
@rev8419
@rev8419 Рік тому
Look into Microsoft's patent "WO/2020/060606" It's insane how obvious it is at this point.
@tomski2671
@tomski2671 Рік тому
Make data theft too expensive
@mustang607
@mustang607 Рік тому
If you trust what the CEO of Apple says then not everything you type on iPhone is being recorded and sent to their servers.
@tomhitchcock8195
@tomhitchcock8195 Рік тому
Data slaves. No royalties for the data which belongs to you.
@scottkeeler2306
@scottkeeler2306 Рік тому
Yeah. Should make me very upset. Then what? They are attacking from every angle. Getting upset is the wrong message especially from a word aficionado like yourself. There is a whole library of more constructive words.
@deafprophet
@deafprophet Рік тому
Several years ago Russian authorities declared that "The People are the new oil" (люди - это новая нефть)
@sexhaver420
@sexhaver420 Рік тому
Data like from Starch Wreck?
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