real asf uck for that

Never thought I'd see a Qxir Last Moments episode about something I witnessed first hand, yet here we are.

Congrats on almost hitting a mill

Congrats on 1m, been here since before 50k. Never forget

@@JDBajaBlast not yet!

That's the point, nobody thought.

the sad reality is many laws, rules, or regulations are written in the blood of those who died or were injured due to those rules, laws, or regs not existing yet. Especially in aviation. It is also likely someone DID bring up the issue, but it wasn't approved for financial reasons.

yeah i feel like usually they have someone else in the helicopter or just someone at the office watching the video do the reporting

cocaine

​@meZeusta14 it was probably also cheaper for the news channel, unfortunately money has more worth than a poor guy's blood.

They shouldn't, especially helicopter pilots. It takes an insane amount of concentration and skill to handle a helicopter smoothly, especially in close quarters with other aircraft. Even experienced pilots would still need to be fully aware of everything going on around them, and flying around in such close quarters is already dangerous at best. At bare minimum, there should have been a pilot, someone in charge of cameras, a reporter for commentary (if they insisted on having live commentary from the helicopter), and, if possible, a co-pilot to handle communications and keep an eye on the aircraft systems. Whoever decided that there should only be two people on board clearly had no idea how much skill and concentration it takes to fly a helicopter.

That's what our instructors tell us: Aviate, Navigate, Communicate -- in that order.

I just can't figure out how someone thought that would be a good idea. Not only would it be safer to have someone else do it, it would probably also lead to better quality reporting because that would be the only thing they're focusing on. It's just so god damn stupid.

why did they show 4 people dead? if the pilots were doing it all?

@@ScreamingEagleFTW Each helicopter had a pilot and a photographer.

Cops go through that all the time. Check out the classic episode of Adam-12: "Elegy for a Pig."

Media outlets care so much about the money they can make from sensationalism that the station execs were probably just thinking that besides the police car chase bumping up their ratings, the fatal chopper crash also caught on camera would just make it even better. They don't care. They weren't the ones killed. If they actually cared, they wouldn't have underpaid these dudes to do five other things at the same time they were engaged in the very serious business of flying a chopper

@@davidlafleche1142 Ugg - this is sobering to see this. I knew nothing about it but it's impactful. The tv stations have to change policy and give the Pilot 1 job: FLY YOUR CHOPPER SAFELY!

@@davidlafleche1142that was a funeral… kinda different situation there

@@miatorelli7387 Not really. In both cases, the person reporting the death personally knew the people who were killed.

Absolute ice in the veins. I'm not sleeping very well tonight

did ya sleep well, pumpkin? having nightmares?@@anthonyhayes1267

Do you know this for a fact or just supposing ?

@@stanfordwillis4841 the only word in my statement that could be a supposition is ‘friend’ and i think his reaction sort of confirms it. that was, in fact, the entire point of my comment

I see@@caseyhamm4292

That's sad tbh

"They're closing in."

If I had a nickel for every time I've seen irl foreshadowing/irony that has ended tragically, I would have at least two nickels. Which is not a lot ,but it's weird it's happening more than once.

Nick Crowley Am I right?

Damn

There was a time when talking on your cellphone was perfectly fine and legal as well

​@@jr2904 that was before everyone had one. As with this incident, changes to legislation are often more reactive than proactive.

I mean... if it's a low traffic area and you're going by what the control tower is giving you, not visual flight, flying actually requires less attention than driving- depending on the aircraft in question, of course. However this case? It's absolutely insane. Helicopters already require a lot more active input and a news helicopter pilot already has to worry about helping the cameraman get a good angle on things. And having all that additional work on top, commentating, communicating with the newsroom, listening to all those other frequencies... that's just crazy.

Sadly, this is how most crucial regulations come into place. Not because someone with forethought said "Hey this doesn't make sense, we should correct this issue!", but because some form of gruesome accident that forced the hands of those who make the rules. A lot of it comes down to too many problems, not enough people working on them.

@@jr2904 talking to your phone is one thing and in fact it's only illegal to do so while holding said phone because it leave you with only one hand to interract with the car controls. In many country you can talk to your phone with a handsfree kit. Op said texting which is radically different and not unlike what happened with those pilots. You could switch it with "reading a book while driving" or "watching a movie while driving" the idea is the same.

I guess T cas failed to say traffic traffic alerting them of the impending crash🤣

These guys operate in VFR, so the number of rules is actually shockingly minimal. I doubt they even file flight plans. They probably don't even have TCAS in these cheap choppers.

@@ZTenski How could they file a flight plan for a police chase lol There's no way to know where it'll end up and with 5 helicopters orbiting the same moving target there's really no way for a controller to help provide separation. This is VFR. They are responsible for their own separation. Really falls on the pilots for accepting the dangerous job and partly on the news stations for expecting pilots to fly and report

Ever see the LA sky at night? It's like an airshow in the dark.

Even flying VFR we have rules on separation, so it did surprise me seeing these guys so close together all at the same altitude. When it comes to TCAS, such a system would have been going off nonstop in this situation, so I’m certain that it’s something that was unused on these helicopters, either by design or by choice. This video shows just how close the one filming the two that crashed also was and within that distance any TCAS system would be screaming at one guy to claim and another to descend. I’m not a helo pilot so I can’t say much for what they have onboard, but I had always thought the pilot and copilot would have been the ones flying with one or the other controlling the camera, whilst a reporter sat in the back reporting. I find it hard to understand how the FAA permitted this kind of setup on news helicopters, but again, I’m no helo pilot and I’m not from the US.

Boeing employees

Can you imagine trying to keep reporting and then having to land the helicopter after that?

"Oh my god! That's Channel 3!" Poor guy sounded horrified and sorrowful. Seeing two fellow journalists and pilots falling and crashing with the situation you're also in must be close to traumatising.

imagine someone you communicated to not 5 minutes ago was now in a burning pile of metal. seriously, it was so unnerving to see he was trying to keep himself together.@@tristanraine

Is heartbreaking some new trending yt word now? The amount of times I see "It's so heartbreaking" 🤦🏻‍♂️

@pissedoffbucketguy9115 Hearing his reaction broke my heart.

It's not really common practice. In Los Angeles many of the helicopter photographers are also reporters, but they are not the pilots. Stu Mundel is the photographer/reporter for FOX 11's Sky Fox chopper. He's a legend up there. But he does not pilot the aircraft.

He accepted it himself , nobody forced him . helicopter missed

Before automated traffic counting... there used to be solo traffic reporters who flew over cities every morning reporting on traffic jams. Both in helicopters and planes. It can be done... but the priority should be flying the aircraft... and that includes constantly looking for other air traffic in visual conditions. This guy failed in that basic task.

that has largely changed due to this accident.

I agree.

well had they all been at different altitudes this never would have happened plain and simple having them both on the same altitude was what allowed this crash to happen plain and simple

@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Thank you, captain obvious.

@@ozpin8329 your very welcome🫵

Regulations are written in blood.

That's the downside of freedom.

​@@065Tim Freedom for who exaclty?

You do know it hasn't changed though right? 3 times in the last 3 months helicopters have crashed into each other in america. They still DaF. 🤣🤣

@@065Tim And yet each "rule" encroaches upon tyranny. "Unlawfully at large" is an actual charge in the UK. You get an extra charge for knowingly being beyond a certain financial "bounty" and not turning yourself in. At which point does your magical rulebook negate crime? Doesn't seem to work. And hence America was born, and revolutionized the "innocent until proven guilty" model the world since adopted. Here's what you're getting at; humans need guidance and are susceptible to their inner desires. Legislation does not hold a society together on its own, but legislation in accordance to GOOD, as defined by a deity, does. The reality of the deity matters not, the societal consequences are the endgoal. If the people as a whole REFUSE to steal not because they're afraid of losing a finger, but rather they're afraid of consequences beyond our perception, the society will be much more peaceful and tame. History proves this, right down to the recent stagnation of our species' innovations. We do not thrive without God, even the most staunch atheists admit humans have some pre-coded desire to worship, so denying this truth is an unintelligent disservice to everyone. The world is dichotomous, cold only exists as the absence of heat whereas total "freedom" is the absence of order. I don't think you're advocating for us all to return to tribal life, "free" of shoes and the knowledge of clothing, are you? Because you're "free" to live such a life whenever you wish, although you'll quickly realize reality itself follows order via laws of physics, genetic code, and countless other symbiotic apparatti, and so the only true "freedom" is making the choice to or not to engage in this game. Everything else holds you victim to some sort of "oppressive" outside force. And so, if the people like yourself live predecided lives, puppeted by those intelligent enough to understand, what's the issue in making everyone obey religion if the end result is more human prosperity and peace? It's better than "choosing" to allow people to succumb to the initially cited flawed human desires which have been recorded and vindicated for literally our entire existence.

To me it sounded like they may have been friends.

it must have been horrible to witness people you know fall out of the sky, and watching it burst into flames, i would be hyperventilating too

@@asole2847They were very close friends. They trained and flew together for years. He came to a helicopter safety seminar and told us all about it a few months later.

Yup, that would be me too. I have witnessed a few bad things and yeah you basically freeze.

@@williamk9881 Seems like the safety seminar was needed before the accident. Who thought it was a good idea to have the pilot also report? Tragedy yes, but utterly moronic and foolish as well. Tragedies can be caused by accidents or incredibly stupidity.

You can hear the scream in the last part of this video when it cut to the reporter, but it's not that clear. There are other videos where the scream is clearly heard. I will warn you though, it's a death scream so it will stay with you.

You can hear it at the end of the video 😢

What caused all of this? Why were the police chasing this guy? Did he do something wrong, or did this all escalate from something like a licence plate bulb burned out?

@@billstrasburg384Did...did you not listen to literally any of the video? Pretty sure it was mentioned it was a stolen vehicle in like the first minute.

RIP to all 3 of them

There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old and bold pilots. Unfortunately, these pilots got a bit too caught up in the thrill of the chase. No doubt numerous other pilots turned this gig down precisely cause of the obvious safety issues. RIP to these souls and my condolences to their families.

The rules and procedures we follow are written in blood. Those that deviate are doomed to repeat the reasons why they exist.

it also happens with medevac and corporate flights where the pilots want to finnish the mission without much regard to meteorological conditions either for the sake of the patient or because the retards on board insist on getting to their destination at a certain time because they have to. usually ends up in multiple obits which end up in some interesting videos and safety reports on the hubris of humans without enough braincells or balls to say "no can do" when necessary. 😏

​@@EyebrowsMahoneythat's most definitely true in aviation.

​@@EyebrowsMahoneyhonestly it could be indicative of this guy just not ever having anybody drive home the points of safety to him. But then again it could just be a dumbass who knows.

I miss all the old timers, same with the radio personalities.

Fuck Phoenix the whole valley is a wasteland

The helicopter was a sub contractor IIRC. So the station hired out the copter from another company.

It's the pilots responsibility. You know that's how it should be, because you're a professional pilot. So where they, it was THEIR responsibility to say "No, that is unsafe, I won't do that".

Definitely,not the criminal in the chase on the ground.

@@randlemcmurphy2672 was talking about the chopper Crash!?? lol

Wasn't this kind of accident the reason most states have laws against texting and driving? It's by the Grace of God that no one on the ground was injured or killed as well as the ones in the helicopters.

A lot of safety regulations are written in blood.

„All regulations are written in blood.“

[insert dramatic oneliner]

Because to much regulation is tyranny

Psssst, if you had any kind of clue, things didn't change for america, 3 times in the last 3 months helicopters have crashed into each other, they still crashing into each other all the time. 🤣🤣

The guy trying to save an additional salary.

Ppl obsessed with profits, whether thats to impress shareholders or to get a bigger bonus for themself Greed is what causes businesses to routinely determine that profit is worth more than a human life. This is why regulation exists and why civil lawsuits for such srs injuries and deaths exist I hope that the four news workers who lost their lives did in the end get some justice here; and their family were able to win wrongful death lawsuits against the news agencies who thru their reckless negligence in the furtherance of small differences in profits/views Its so clearly cut and dry to me that the two news agencies (all of them rly, but these two are the ones that matter for civil suits) thru their choices of policies and procedures put their employees lives at risks, every day. This was just the day that their policies finally inevitably caused deaths to occur They no doubt tried to blame the pilots, but this is how literally all the pilots were doin things and its easy to prove that such practices were not just routinely done by all the pilots, but were also dangerously unsafe and recklessly endangered the lives of these workers. When company policies encourage unsafe practices; the company can and is often held accountable for any resultin catastrophes caused by their policies. This is why pizza places stopped advertisin hvily as havin super fast delivery; and have all srsly revised driver policies to make clear that the driver must obey all traffic laws. Drivers arent even given competition rewards for fastest deliveries anymore either, bcuz such incentives encouraged the brkin of traffic laws to achieve them. Like, imagine a racin game where you had to obey the traffic laws; the best race times wud end up bein very very similar, if not the same, in no short order. Bcuz you cant exactly get 30 miles any faster at 30mph than an hr; unless you brk either traffic laws or laws of physics. So since it was too easy for workers and their families to win civil suits for dmgs, either as a result of srs injury or wrongful death; the companies changed policy to stop losin money there, as the dmgs ended up nearin enuf, to cut into the profits gained by such unsafe practices, to matter to the bottom line No doubt the real reason news agencies changed policy after this was based solely on such legal logic only based reasonin; not out of a desire to not cause more death... just a desire to not lose money, and them realisin that a cheaper option existed which wud work just fine. Bcuz companies dont just change unsafe practices for the sake of protectin workers; they only ever do it cause it affects their bottom line

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@@MattH-wg7ou I type as i do due to a fine motor control disability; ya understood me, didnt ya? Shorter words are easier for me to type, i almost always typo ing at the end of a word, but in at the end is typod way less by me As is, with all my shortcuts i bring my typo rate down from like 70% of words to 20% of words; which is still a lot more than most ppl typo, but its bearable for me compared to otherwise

​@@SylviaRustyFae I was just joshin it wasn't an attack or intended to cause offense.

And then those vultures start filming the crash instead.

@@dboboc I mean, it's not like it stopped being news. It became, in fact, even more news. At least their stations had the good sense to put a separate reporter in their choppers.

@@dbobocI’d argue their filming ultimately did good. The news coverage likely led to the new regulations for news helicopters being co-opted much more quickly than if it had simply happened without anyone batting an eye.

the fact the lady was just calm.. i would be worried and standing there in horror if i was on Live seeing what just happened.

everyone is different and respond to these situations differently. i personally dont have the same empathetic feel as others, and there isnt much i can do about it@@__taka__8200

its common fucking sense ! people like me wouldn't let that slide

audaciously flawed logic to try to blame the criminal too

It comes down to money. They wouldn't want to pay three salaries to people who could only be used in the helicopter. Cheaper to have the reporter narrate it from the ground.

thanks, captain obvious.

100%, aviate navigate communicate. Really sad outcome.

Agreed, although it's good to remember that we weren't in their shoes that day, we don't know what stresses and emotions they were feeling at the moment that was said.

It's akin to blaming oiling companies for people driving gas cars.

I know, right! they were not part of the police/law enforcement attempting to capture the "suspect", if it was one of the patrol cars in pursuit who went off the road and burned in a fiery crash then yes, but not news helicopters, they had no law enforcement purpose to be there and they were not cars or pedestrians on the street hit by the "suspect's" vehicle while fleeing.

Of course they did, anything else would be un-american.

During the commission of a crime, if someone dies even if not directly due to the actions of the criminal, the criminal can be charged with first degree murder. For example, if during a bank robbery one of the customers has a heart attack shortly afterwards and dies later in the hospital, the state will file first degree murder charges against the robbers.

Money. It always comes down to money.

They did actually crash very frequently, but usually it was due to improper maintenance and just a single vehicle incident that rarely resulted in deaths.... theres dozens of videos of news choppers doing emergency landings and auto gyrating down and ive seen a couple that have collided with structures

Thankfully some better practices came out of this tragedy, like a copilot freeing the pilot from reporting, and helicopter sharing with separate commentary at each news room. The latter makes perfect sense in terms of safety and lower cost of operations. Also, using small drones instead of helicopters may be safer too.

I remember reading a comment from a guy who was a helicopter pilot during the Vietnam war and later on a commercial pilot. He said helicopters are inherently dangerous and that NO ONE should be using them for leisure, only when necessary. Sadly we've seen lots of rich and famous people die due to using helicopters for pleasure.

@@Michael_Hunt Humans were never built for flying.

they likely just used the threat of charging for the deaths of the chopper crews to gain leverage in plea negotiations.

Why did the pilots accept this job?

they didn't make them. there were greedy enough people to accept that job. if no one was willing to do it, things wouldn't have been like this. the pilots carry as much guilt as the networks

@@murrayshekelberg9754a veteran pilot doing his job is being greedy? Bullshit, I never believed shit can be sentient but you are proof of that. Now you’re probably gonna try to say something back at me but idc because the only thing that is offensive to me is if I’m forced to live your miserable life

How is nobody noticing that the helicopters are CG? Is everyone blind?

Nick Crowley does that to a tee. The horror movie editing, the spooky music, the annoying fake youtuber voice, it really takes away from the event themselves.

Qxir is one of the best UKpostsrs

Yes

Qxir videos are works of art.

Thanks for the dose of self-righteousness church lady.

Exactly what it should be, crew of 3, one to be a, “Spotter.”

Only these company bossy fools would force the multitasking. They should eliminate all the risk and use one drone at higher altitude than the police chopper.

@@jonnamechange6854 Drones... the way of the future... and we all know robots don't cry.

lol, since when in the history of America has the media ever acted responsibly??

@@CanadianSmokedrones are just as dangerous. They will interfere with cop choppers.

just send up more choppers, problem solved

@@SoyAntonioGaming What could go wrong?

Board of Directors: “You mean we could save money on a camera operator if we just make the pilot do it?”

@@orangeapples But pilots are quite expensive. You could just make the camera operator fly the helicopter

@@nclsDesignScrew it, just the helicopter and camera do their own thing with no one attending it

99% of the time, management doesn't care how dangerous a job is, they just ignore it to accomplish a given task with the least cost. I know, I've worked under dangerous conditions that more people ($) and better equipment (more $) could have greatly improved, if anyone had cared. R.I.P. if you can.

@@tinkerstrade3553 Not that they're angels, but there's some of that 99% who still take safety seriously. Sometimes it's only after something awful happens, but they still open their eyes. Others find profit motive in avoiding liabilities - realizing that more money spent on staff and equipment can save a lot in fines and lawsuits. Ridiculously dangerous workplaces exist for sure, but I've also seen quite a few bosses panic when they see sketchy work practices because of what it could cost them.

The pilots could have refused to do it, also.

@@johnd5398 it's not that I couldn't have refused, but my stomach overruled my good sense too often. I did step away at times. And depending on finances, took jobs where I controlled the danger. (Other workers often have the highest casualty rate in job accidents.) But every job has a risk, ask a drunk, burnt out accountant or a homeless Hollywood hero.

@@johnd5398i feel like someone will reply “then someone else will do it” but like, ok? Let them make a stupid decision.

I‘d argue that millions of people seeing this live DID force them to. This is the one kind of incident where you don’t need to pass a law to force it, the PR itself is a nightmare…

Yeah I’m really glad improvements were made

it made no sense to have the pilot be the commentator, especially when the reporter in the studio was seeing and commentating over him..

It was because it was expensive and in public.

@rd2680 oh absolutely, I know there were definitely less altruistic reasons behind the willingness to change. But then again, I've seen more publicized incidents that are worse where the company in charge doesn't care at all.

Yanks love vengeance as justice

Drunk drivers ge charged even when someone walks out in front of the car

@@mattd6085 because vengeance is purely only an american thing right?

@@mattd6085 I’ll get you for that insinuation 😅

​@mattd6085 The rest of the world is a utopia by comparison Am I rIGhT?

Bro I was thinking the exact same thing when I heard that part lol.

I literally said "The Irony" when he said that smh. Rest In Peace to those 4 men.

Bs he did care one those helicopters were supposed to keep going chopper 3 stopped when he wasn't supposed to they have camera turrets on all helicopters plus he did not announce hus intentions of stopping either both pilots were not paying attention which was another cause of this crash

yeah, exactly

@@Mark-bw1wx bs were you in the helicopter with them genius he got transfixed on the chase BTW don't assume that just makes an ass of you not me

And the cameramen.

​@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3cameramen aren't like real people so it doesn't matter. That's why when that dude starts blasting camera men while "filming a scene" they don't get charged... what's that guys name? Can't remember..

they were real people tho? @@jlo7770

@@jlo7770is this satire?

​@@jlo7770 God I hope you were being sarcastic 🙄

Completely insane to have the pilot be responsible for watching and commentating on the ground events, when they are meant to be flying VFR.

Unless someone knows Phoenix they would never realize the "miracle" it was for the crash to happen at Indian School Park!

Can you tell me if that was actual footage of the choppers going down? It looks real but I can't tell because the quality is not very good.

@@spacejunk76it was a sim

​@@terrancecoard388thankfully it happened at a time in which Steele Indian School was empty. It would've been worse had it been a weekend or after regular work hours.

@@chrisS19019 lol I feel stupid, but I gotta say, that breakup looked pretty good.

*more sad

​@@ER-uy7ct🤓

not the point @@ER-uy7ct

@@ER-uy7ctThe only purpose of a language is to be able to understand another person’s thoughts. If you understand someone enough to correct them without question, then is there even a reason to correct them?

​@@ER-uy7ct*be better

Cops can't give a speeding ticket to a pilot. So if cops can't get income from it there will NEVER be safety regulations.

There are a damn sight more tight regulations for flying than for driving. How this crazy behaviour slipped through the net is nothing short of incredible.@@user-ml4en7wc6c

He knew all four very well. At the time, four of the five helicopter crews were housed in the same hanger with the fifth (ABC15 crew) housed in another hanger about a quarter mile away in the same airpark.

next time use more brain and keep awareness at 101% at all times.

@@SeltkirkTV Who do you think you are talking to? Everyone is dead

@@SeltkirkTV but they are asked to pilot a sophisticated machine while at the same time follow and report a developing story. Insanity.

@@headlesschicken175 your parents must've love you

Did actually living in Phoenix make her more sympathetic?

The commentary from the other pilots reporting the crash must have been scarring to hear live

5 helicopters?????

@@TucsonDude She didn't live there until about the last ten years of her life and had plans to move elsewhere, but she died and had to cancel those plans.

​@@McKeelixdid she cancel them AFTER death??

I was wracking my brain trying to think if that was Nexpo or Shrouded Hand or Maverick Files thank you for remembering😂😂😂

Same. I was watching in Nick Crowley's before this one but it was quite hazy, I mean- his version was good but somehow when on this story, I can't get covered enough. For someone which lives in other region where English wasn't native language, I depend on graphical representation for more understanding.

Yes, this is the first time for sure that I've heard such a good description of the true workload the pilots were under. The context sets up everything so amazingly compared to just watching the footage and reading about the causes afterward.

It happened twice in Japan

What do you mean? Did you remember a different scenario, where the helicopters didn't collide?...

Thought I might add, just incase you are confused. The 'footage' where you see the helicopters collide is a digital recreation, not actual video footage.

@@bradmorgan9416 ahhh, it looks like GCI or bad low resolution. Good job. I remember both were hovering then they both moved and collided with each other. I remembered I asked my manager why did they move since they can hover as helicopters. He said the air is too hot so they need to move to cool the engines. We watched it outside since it happened by our office.

@Franklinsone that's interesting... seems piloting and trying to report of the happenings below is just not a good mix... they really should have had dedicated pilots and I'm guessing this wouldn't have ever happened.

Just needed to jump up just before hitting the ground!!

​@@Anarchy-Is-Liberty yes like Wile E Coyote. Or have a parachute (but likely they were too injured or shocked by the crash with no time to do anything and no quick way out).

they perpetuated that sort of work environment. if they all refused, it would have to have been made safer. they carry as much of the blame as anyone else. its a shame they let greed blind them to common sense.

​@@murrayshekelberg9754 it was common practice at the time. for whatever reason, no one really thought much about this practice. all the news stations knew it was cheaper and easier for them. they're the true greedy ones. as far as the reporters they can't just say "no" you know. it's their job, they needed to make their money, it's their basic income

I was hoping maybe they were knocked out by the crash, but I think some of them were alive. Horrible way to go. Enough time to say your prayers I hope

Terrifying yes, but once you hit the ground it's over very quickly.

Then proceeds to drive his helicopter into another.....lol

The video mentioned that they knew each other personally. The small-airplane community is tight knit, when someone goes down it's a major impact on the whole community. I don't know about helicopters but that's probably an even smaller community.

Imagine having 5 news vans plus a police car barreling down the highway chasing a guy, except all the drivers are REQUIRED to text while driving. Crazy how it's never occurred to anyone that it might be a bad idea.

The proximity of the helicopters was reason enough not to do this - I'm frankly amazed it was ever permitted.

Literally nobody would think a fiery helicopter crash that people died in would be “cool”

@@fatfreddyscoat7564Clearly you’ve never been on tiktok or twitter.

@@fatfreddyscoat7564 You must be new to the world to believe that. I envy your innocence. Not only do many people of that nature exist, but such people would lament this video for honoring the dead instead of sensationalizing the gore.

The crashes were fiery but mostly peaceful.

​@@jeremysteele3098Define "mostly peaceful".

If they weren't mawkish, vouyeristic scum, they'd be alive.

Those moments are special *precisely* because our lives are finite.

Their risk of death was a lot higher than yours is at any given point

Well, being hundreds to thousands of feet in the air definitely could increase your chances of dying to a random event

Uhm... do stupid things win stupid prizes? Did it not occur to these pilots there was a high chance of this happening? Seems like a very stupid idea to me and I don't even fly. And the cameramen riding with them, nobody forced them into those helicopters. Greed all around.

yeah I thought "uh oh" when I heard that

Suddenly the theme from Curb Your Enthusiasm starts to play.

Fetal? Did some infants crash together?

Ugh

my man as a what

Old helikopter military pilot

Anyone who is paid to manipulate the truth and form a false narrative deserves to crash in my opinion.

​@@rlyybro4435 And your comment added so much to the conversation 🙄

@munkustrap2 Stop whining and using emojis like a teenage cheerleader.

the results of greedy men accepting absurdly overcomplicated tasks

They all deserved what they got. I only feel sorry for any of their kids. 5 comms channels plus flying the helicopter plus reporting... everyone in the air should have known this was an eventuality.

When did this happen

@@LIVE_Concerts_STL 2007,very sad.....

​@@crispy9175"they deserve what they got" They deserved to die because their job told them to do something overcomplicated and they obliged? Amazing how a woman can do the most evil thing but her being harmed in any way is evil. Meanwhile wishing death on men for nothing is completely okay

I work in the fire and life safety industry, and new safety measures never come from forethought. They always come from tragedy. However, recently, we had to work on some devices that needed adjustments, and a coworker just wanted to put up a 15' ladder to reach them. These devices were in an atrium, above a very narrow catwalk, above a 40' drop. I pulled him aside and said, we shouldn't do this. It took 3 months to have the proper scaffolding erected (red tape and money) but we performed the job without incident.

Pretty much every rule in aviation and many other things is written in blood

"Common sense" isn't common until it is learned. Sometimes the lesson comes from a tragedy like in the video

Yep, legislation has always been reactive rather than proactive. I teach health and safety as part of being a lecturer in mechanical engineering. When researching the subject i find stories which can all be bliled down to "lack of common sense lead to death, and then they changed the law to prevent it in future." Even with that knowledge, this video still baffles me how anyone thought this would be ok.

Typically I agree with this, but it's just not the case here; Everyone knows that forcing someone to multitask is already a bad idea, that point only multiplies substantially whenever you have them multitask while doing something dangerous. When I was ten I could've told you it was damn near malicious to have someone try to pilot a helicopter while also trying to closely follow an unfolding story on the ground, and I'm sure the same can be said for everyone else viewing this video.