It's very much a Japanese corporate issue, not just in cars but in just about every industry and is why the likes of Nikon in the camera field and JR in the RC field are struggling or have folded.

Agreed they need to get off their butt

ID3 has made this completely irrelevant! Why has Nissan thrown everything away? BMW is not much better

Lack of leadership. My Nissan dealer has been amazing, and we hated the bolt, so it’s why we went with the plus (no Niros or konas here). S+ was 10K more for base option. Similar range all things included. Propilot is pretty good.

Nissan in the car ev market are like Apple in the smartphone market Same old and charge heaps..

Wait for the next generation EV from Nissan -

Irek do you need pass driving test still for electric cars?

@@kirsakaboom-5960 yes, I think full autonomy is at least a decade or two away

@Barry Goldwater Not sure if you ask about Leaf or Tesla. Leaf was purchased 3.5 years ago so prices changed since then - but it was 1 year old ex-demo car and costed 12.5k. Model 3 costed 39k, still waiting for the delivery though

It's not affordable for the average man that's a luxury price for a non luxury car without decent technology of thermal management

If the id3 lives up to the claims then I think Nissan won't be sell I many leafs at 36k anymore .

At the beggining he wishes half the price, not 10k more ;)

Such a shame we had a leaf but needed more range then the tesla came out and its light years ahead Under 40k and 0-60 in 5.5 sec and the sat nav and charging infrastructure just work

Especially if you live in a climate where it's extra hot or cold, like northern Norway or Australia

Agent Smith or Canada

Yup.

Most of the US has the same problem.

Not for everyone - where I reside it is the perfect choice.

I have just come to the same conclusion after a comparative test drive in the MG 4 Trophy. MG has a more sporty drive but is a bit fidgety on rougher roads. Leaf is a more comfortable and relaxing drive. As you say the Leaf LR is an awful lot of car for the money. The new wheels of the facelift Leaf are great - very Sierra Cosworth! (You only get plastic wheel trims on the MG). The ability to instantly drop into 'B' breaking mode on the gear selector of the Leaf beats making sure your screen is on the right page then reaching over to select a small icon from the other 4 driving modes of the MG. (One of the configurable buttons can be programmed for this function but you then have to cycle through all 5 drive modes to get back to mode 1 - the equivalent to 'D' on the Leaf). Other comments - MG 4 interior very dark (black headlining) and very little view through the rear mirror. The MG has a 'trigger' accelerator which makes for rapid power delivery - but the Leaf delivers its power in a more refined way. (Because of this and the choppy ride the MG made me a bit queezy over undulating bumps as feedback to my right foot seemed to gave a pulsating power effect. Due to all the positive videos about the MG 4 I expected to love it - as it is I am now back on the solid, reliable Leaf LR for a 2 year old, second hand buy.

@philbattye - What you have mentioned is a great synopsis 👏 What I didn’t mention in my comment (but is highly relevant to your points) is that I sold my Mk1 Leaf and bought a brand new MG4 as well! Due to issues you have mentioned (and many more with the MG4) I stepped out of it and went back to a Nissan Leaf. The Leaf just simply works and most people could be forgiven for expecting any modern EV to work. But they don’t all work the same or as well as one another. And that’s before you get to their Apps and additional functionality. For wider context, I also have a Tesla, which operates superbly too - however should be no surprise, given both manufacturers have been in the EV market since pretty much the beginning. I wish more people knew and understood the significance of this, especially given the complexity of electric vehicles. Thanks for your comment, I hope people can thoroughly experience and test their chosen EVs to be able to make to make purchase decisions that they will remain happy with - we are in a joint revolution of technology and vehicles as we move to zero emissions. And just in case anyone is wondering - ChaDeMo may be an outgoing standard and part of the fabric of the Leaf. But only a relevant future consideration if you need to rapid charge regularly - and otherwise the Leaf simply still nails it every other area (especially true of the higher specification Tekna models). The biggest thing, is it actually works as a car and an EV - sadly the same cannot be said for all EVs!

And, just to add, there now appears to be a working adaptor for Chademo to CCS-2 (from China of course). Expensive at the moment ~£1,500 but will probably come down. This potentially allows access to all chargers in the UK - Chademo, CCS and, eventually? Tesla!

Lowcarb Ev - Nissan doesn’t care what they sell. Here in the US, Nissan is failing fast, and the financial “analysts” are scratching their heads trying to figure out why. Here’s why: their cars are unreliable garbage and nobody wants to buy them. You only buy a Nissan once, unless you like making the same mistake twice. Scotty Kilmer looooves to trash (“rubbish” to you non-Yanks) their vehicles, especially that pile-of-shite CVT which Nissan refuses to fix.

there is thermal management, coolant runs through the battery

@@dgdgjasonallen1091 there is zero active cooling in new 62kwh version, bravo Nissan

Yep so disappointed with this, I was poised to buy one but no thermal management, no chance. Without a decent BMS battery vehicles are useless.

@@boloborkowski9429 I have no idea about thermal battery management but how important is it? Obviously I am going to Google and UKposts this after I make this comment but is there a difference between the 64 and 40kWh versions? I suppose that in the 64kWh it's more important but what about the 40kWh version? Is the cooling, that dgdgjason allen mentioned, enough? I understand some of the technology that goes into Li-On batteries that are in smartphones. Is it significantly different in EVs?

@@NimbleBard48 More sophisticated EVs have liquid cooled batteries, which means better performance in super cold weather, and the battery won't overheat in super hot weather or if you are using fast charging. Ultimately whether that applies to you depends on your use case. If you do plan on using it for long trips, or live in extreme weather climates, then something like a Tesla 3 might be better with its actively cooled battery. OTOH, if you use it as a commuter car, mostly use regular charging at home (level 1 or level 2), and live in relatively temperate climate, it might not matter at all. Check you local prices. The MSRP is the same as the Model 3, however, there's no haggling to be had with Tesla, and their $7500 federal tax credit has already ran out. However, due to slow sales, you might be able to get a Leaf for 5000 off MSRP, and then add the federal tax credit on top of that, and the Leaf may cost more than 10K USD cheaper than a Model 3. In that scenario, I'd probably go for the Leaf.

Just bought a 2014 leaf for $8.5k and love it so far... But I have a question - are you buying a new car every 2-3 years and selling the old one? Because it seems like you would be taking a big hit each time since cars lose so much value... Is it that money is no object or do you have it worked out with a tax rebate to break even or something? (Not that having more EVs in the world is a bad thing, just wondering - I'm the kind of guy who buys a car used and drives it into the ground, so I'm interested to understand what's going on for someone buying new cars regularly)

@@itWouldBeWise That's why they are virtually disposable cars. The battery fails below 80,000 miles. I was thinking about getting a used leaf because I was told rebuild 24 kwh battery would be $2800. There's no rebuilt batteries anywhere. I was told a new battery would be $5400. Nissan raised the price to $8500 plus installation. Figured the price of the battery every 80,000 miles and the calculations came up to the same as if you drove a vehicle getting 14 miles per gallon. Then you have to add on the surcharges on tags, which is currently $120 extra per year going to $500 per year in the next few years. I priced a used Tesla with a bad battery, guess what, it's $24,000 plus installation and the insurance is almost triple what my current vehicle is. It's pretty obvious EV cars are expensive disposable toys. I really wanted one, but I wanted to save money too, not spend more.

Bryan Hensley Your information on battery life is incorrect. I own a 2013 Leaf with 85k miles and have only lost 2 bars. The battery life is supposed to be closer to 30 years than gauged in miles.

K Chris my 2013 Leaf 24 kwh, 60k miles lose two bars and leaf spy showing available 15 kWh

@@Bryan-Hensley ya. Not like I'm in the market for a car but I'll be waiting some more years before I get one also.

*_Nissan has lost the plot._*

@@RWBHere that was after the 40kwh leaf was revealed

That's the EV premium biting. These cars only cost a few thousand to make and sell including wages. Normally cars get a 4-6× price multiplier, electric vehicles get a 1.5-2× additional price multiplier on top. Car makers know we need BEVs to survive car makers legacy of fossil vehicles, so since there's a needed demand capitalism says raise the price.

If you love the 30kwh Nissan Leaf you will be ecstatic driving the 62kwh Nissan Leaf Plus with twice the range and the horsepower! They were about the same price also with tax incentives. Do some homework people.

@@markdemaegd4058 62kwh leaf is almost 40k. 30kwh was 28.

@@markdemaegd4058 not to mention it doesn't have twice the range (or power). It seems you need revisit your "research"

@@wakkadakkaify Didn't you say you had a 2013 Nissan Leaf? That year had about 100 horsepower and a 100 mile range in the S trim , about $28,000 MSRP in 2013. My 2019 Nissan Leaf Plus, a much higher trim level has 214 horsepower and charges 226 miles everytime I charge it . MSRP was $42, 890. You cannot compare apples to oranges. I am quoting you as much truth as I can. I tried to do as much homework as possible which is still a lot more than most on the internet. Thanks, wakkadakkaify.

@@markdemaegd4058 I have a 2017 leaf which was 28k. New leaf is 40k (prices in £). What it charges to makes no difference. I get 100-120 miles out of my car, how much real range do you get ?

He likes it as much as the other, but he is disappointed on the differential between the hype and reality, and it's a rip off, (like anyone, secretly) he wishes he could punch the marketing guy that spew this bullshit. You get a kick ass Merc for that money or indeed a Tesla.

Wait.... so he kinda liked the steering wheel and actually liked the speedo 👍👍👍

@@MyWorldRS No he actually didn't like the speedo, only the steering wheel. Actually I think that the steering wheel is the only salvageable thing in there. At that price I get a second hand Merc and pay for my petrol, insurance and tax for years.

Ben Adams cant the cockwomble reply himself or areyou the one that pulls his strings

@@joeking1823 Hm.. the answers are on the video, I was just trying to help, go munch on a crayon?

or I can get a Tesla model3 (76kNZD) for that money....(more or less here in NZ) wtf were they thinking.

Thats the scary part of when evs will get banned or atleast not manufactured any more. The days of a struggling family getting by on a well chosen 3 grand car will be long gone.

@@derpinbird1180 why EVs should get banned?

@@vladzis I didn't say they should get banned, i'm saying that multiple governments and car companies have pledged to phase it out. Govt will stop licencing new cars and car companies will stop making them

billysielu “I’ll just keep the diesel estate that I bought for cash 5 years ago.” Me 2019.

EV Guy, MG are very successful in selling the ZS EV at £21k in the UK, and that has a 44.5kWh battery with liquid cooling and heating. A 40kW Leaf at around £17k would be a good seller.

Ben Jones he loves to make leaf videos bashing nissan and the leaf. I have a 2012 and like it. One thing i will point out that he is missing. Nissan never said they would change the shape or interior from the 40 kwh leaf to the 62 kwh leaf since it just came out in 2018. All they said they would add to the 62 kwh battery not a completely designed car from 2018 to 2019.i like the new shape. Interior doesn’t bother me. And my god when reviewing a car dont scratch or knock on the plastic it is not a luxury car. My 2012 was 36,000 if new but i paid 12000 used. So how does he expect to get a 62 kwh battery at the 2012 price of a 24 kwh battery.

Your 5 series probably needs more fuel than 2 litres per 100km.

@@novacolonel5287 and I would rather pay the fuel and drive the BMW 5 series

Mark Bennett ... I’m certainly no BMW fan, but have to agree with you there👍🏻👍🏻

That cant be true. New bmw M5 costs at least 90 000.

matej škafar ... Yes but just think how much cable your going to need for the Leaf if you want to go anywhere 😳😳 That’ll cost a fortune per metre 🤣🤣

That's nothing,in Thailand we got a normal 40 Kwh battery Leaf with small ass dashboard for 51,000 pounds or almost 2 million THB and can't choose the trim here! Can't even imagine the horror of people who got their battery overheated in our hot year round climate. So we basically got the short end of stick model and then some.

I like it, but the problem is its price puts it in direct competition with much more capable Vehicles like the Kona and the E Nero, and to be frank on long road trips the lack of active thermal management kills it for me. I love my 2012 leaf, but when i upgrade in a couple years will probably be looking elsewhere.

We like our Plus. The price after all the discount programs was reasonable. In Illinois we have no state discount, so my total after federal rebate for our SV with Tech and cold weather for a few pennies over 30K USD. In some states you can get the Plus for 25K. 40K Pounds is crazy talk, agreed it’s too much. No Kona or Niro in the Midwest. It’s Leaf, Bolt, and 3 only.

@@douglasalanthompson you can get those cars if you're willing to shop used or make a road trip, only issue is there's no dealer support for those vehicles, which is why I went for a leaf instead of a soul EV

@@douglasalanthompson 30k for a plus is pretty impressive especially an sv.

Exactly. My local Kia said they can’t support the Niro, so we went Leaf as well. It works well, but you have to drive carefully to do over 210-220 on the highway.

ps meant to say your videowasgreat and very informitive :)

Australians have a pretty bad reputation outside Australia.

And those looks are worth £36000?

If you think it's worth the asking price you want your bumps feeling lol :))))

Congratulations! You're the king of environmentalists: Buying a car every year is highly ecological! But you guys are all the same phoneys!

Juri Vlk means another cheaper EV for the second hand market, so that’s a good thing.

@@Nobody_Famous Most stupid quote ever!

I stated in the video that it’s not a bad car but it’s way overpriced. Although it’s less efficient than all of it’s rivals.

Pål Unanue-Zahl it’s the last of a series - I assume it was more cost effective for Nissan to stick with improving the same platform and technology till the end. I dare to speculate that the next generation EV from Nissan will be having different solutions.

Chandemo is readily available in the UK.

@captain pugwash the government want your tax. If electric takes off it just means paying more upfront and probably per mile driven one day. They don't care about the environment. I think that a petrol hybrid like the BMW i3 would be cheaper and better for most localish journeys. As long as it does not have a BMW badge and price. Electrics are simple. It all comes down to profits and taxes.

Johnathan Pearson It seems to be the old betamax vhs thing here I have visited quite a few charge points where the ccs part is out of action and chademo has been ok And I believe chademo is a two way system as in leaf to grid But eventually there will only be one

@@Filtermandave hopefully. I hope the winner is open to all too. Remember betamax had better quality pictures. VHS won because it could record longer and was cheaper. Same goes for charging, the kw output and the price. Silly to think the government is so slow to install charge points that cost 15k when petrol stations cost 1m.

No.

yes and before that, nothing at all, one presumes

Nissan Last 10years make crap sorry but painful truth. If not Renault Nissan will be dead.

I like the Nissan qashqai

@Tristan Trotman All vehicle refreshes are updated as is the Nissan Leaf Plus. Is it perfect, no. Does it have a bigger battery and more horsepower, yes. Does the Nissan Leaf Plus compete with almost all pure electric vehicles on the market, yes. No quality problems whatsoever.

Excuse me, but if any car company made a perfect vehicle there would never be any improvements. Tell me if I'm wrong. Please be specific because I am not Jay Leno but almost as acknowledged. I subscibe to 4 automobile magazines. Well, maybe not. I love Jay Leno by the way.

Not a problem for me. Where I live, we have no CCS chargers.

Presumably you will cover 30K miles eventually, so that's no problem. And it's not just about the costs - it's about pollution and noise and climate change and just being the right thing to do (if you aren't going to just switch to a bike :-)

@@xxwookey Electric cars are very expensive and very polluting to make. And they still pollutes the air (although less than a ice car). I mean yeah we could pay more in order to "preserve" the environnement but i don't think the small benefits of EVs justify that costs. Bikes aren't a viable option for most people. (And EVs too actually)

Not the e-niro, please no :(

@@xxwookey Yeah 30k in user three years. Have decided to enter the world of EV ownership and have ordered an MG ZS EV for delivery next March.

Look at the wages the Chinese get paid, how can anyone compete with them. Support local markets if you can.

It’s not just Nissan that Renault have a helping hand with but a certain German marque has more to do with Renault than they want there customers to believe

yep. the used Leaf price has dropped like a bomb and they're still far more reliable than any EV on the market. I want a nice car thats nice to drive and won't let me down. Thats what the Leaf is.

😢

Hyondi Kona E is 215 bhp, the KIA E niro is the same xD

I bought a 2019 Nissan Leaf Plus with 214 horsepower and it will smoke most vehicles on the road today! This guy has a couple of valid points but he must work for an electric vehicle competitor. Yes, the Nissan Leaf Plus is not a Tesla 3 Performance. The Leaf is not as fast or in that category as a Tesla. The Leaf has some hard plastic and its looks are not as nice as the Tesla Model 3. If you think the others have better charging systems than the Leaf then go for it. Yes, you can buy a gasoline car for half the price if you want but you get what you pay for. Go buy a Chevrolet Spark or another dog vehicle if that's what you want and can afford, it makes sense. Once you go electric you can't go back to an internal combustion engine vehicle.

The 214 horsepower Nissan Leaf Plus will smoke a 200 horsepower Ford Fiesta. The torque off the line of the Leaf is immediate and intense. The Leaf Plus is not Tesla Model 3 Performance fast but at about $20,000 less it's a good deal. If you can afford the Tesla Roadster it goes 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds. Quick is quick and faster is faster. The new Chevrolet Corvette is half that fast. Sorry. Electric vehicles are just superior.

@@markdemaegd4058 got to remember that the leaf top speed is something like 80or so where the ice car can do 120 so over 20 15 seconds or so the ice will win but then who goes 120?

@@Chappers.Gaming The 2019 Nissan Leaf Plus has a top speed of 100 mph and it gets there very quickly.

Model 3 will have so many issues lmao you'll pay the list price on repairs xD even less reliable than a nissan

paul watson - Both cars look great on the back of a tow truck....

If you want to wait more than 12mths!

@@elliotjohnston5775 still that long waiting list. So Tesla is doing a hell of a job. And Renault to, Zoë is available in 6 weeks time

If you're caught using your phone whilst driving, in Britain and in some other countries, you can be fined and receive points on your license. An in-car satnav circumvents that problem.

@@RWBHere I understand that but at what point does it become a phone? The device is not just a phone but also a GPS and media centre for music and radio (internet radio).. I keep mine in a holder in the CD player. Perhaps laws are too loosely defined. If a person drives while holding their phone they are just asking for trouble, regardless of any laws.

Apple Carplay........

When a car company is owned by the french, expect it to be shite. Nissan has.t been good since it was 100% Japanese.

Then double the cost!

No, even if it is broke don't fix it...

The reason why he's not there anymore is because he was corrupt!

@@oxcart4172 no he isn't. He wanted to fire the management of Nissan and they struck first. It's a frame up. asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Ghosn-charges-are-thin-soup-case-for-ex-Nissan-boss

Samus Aran7 well I don’t need autopilot don’t me I don’t want it, and with cars want had way more to do with it than need

Elliott's Lab Thats nice to hear. Its just unnecessary costs that add up when buying the vehicle at the end of the day.

I think you will be hard pushed to find any Renault bits in the Leaf, Designed in Japan but built in the UK (for Europe) Its is however the only Nissan sold in Europe that is Renault Free.

It’s more of the way Nissan is run the build quality has come down but the prices have gone up, most of nissans cars have the the same under pinnings don’t be fooled because it has a Nissan label, quite a lot of parts have Nissan and Renault part numbers on them

@@Mrflash222006 I'm not in anyway fooled, I stand by my previous comment, my Leaf smells more of Sushi than Garlic. I agree the same can't be said for any other Nissan sold in Europe.