Seriously, with that one generator? I’m just beginning to look into them and it’s more than a tad confusing.

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I too have had my eye on the EcoFLow but am now considering this instead. Thahk you for sharing.

I considered the eco flow delta 2 but this vtoman has way more battery capacity and some users have charging issues with the eco flow units

Awesome, thank you!

Hahahaha!

Emergency boat anchor?

Because it’s a better chemistry with a 4000 charge cycles lifespan vs 1000. LiFePO4 vs lithium ion. A better comparison is Jackery Explorer 1000 plus, which is over 30 lb.

I am looking at the 1500 on amazon right now, it is priced at 799.99 with a 100 coupon. The reviews there vary.

@@Coconutoilcrazy They came out with a newer version that I believe is 1000W instead of 1500W and some updated features.

@@natefreeman1466 I bought the VTOMAN Jump 1500X Portable Power Station 1500W. I was debating between that and the Iforway. The vtoman was a good price. Thank you for your original comment about buying it and loving it, that settled my mind. It should be here in a few days

@@Coconutoilcrazy and what’s your verdict?

@@GMC-qo9xi I like it, I havent had to use it in a real power outage yet. One thing is it didnt have the jumper cable that was shown. So far I havent received it, although they said they would send one.

Thanks so much for the kind words, Marilyn! I sincerely appreciate it! :)

How do you get your unit to NOT keep heading into eco-mode and turning the fridge off??I'm desperate over here and about to buy a Goal Zero as my food keeps getting spoiled.

Nice!!

Yeah, I don't disagree. Mine works great still as well. It's just that since I originally bought the E1000, I've discovered a bunch of alternatives that have a lot of upgraded functionality (especially increased DC input capacity) at a lower cost per Wh. But Jackery HAS made up some ground with the new E1000 Pro which looks to be a solid unit...albeit still using Lithium NMC instead of LiFePO4.

Same here and totally satisfied with it, works for my needs!

Can you run an average size hot water kettle to compete boil with one of these? Can i run a compact microwave for 13 minutes Straight??????

Yeah, I like my E1000 too, but for the money, it just doesn't provide the features/capacity that I can get with so many other options on the market now. BTW, I've got a video I'm working on now that you might find helpful. Stay tuned for that. :)

​@ErvigHenry what would be the price on it? That's another thing customers are looking too.

Yes, that's what I'm looking for, just as an emergency back up power source. Also where do you get the solar panels that go with this power pack

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Yes, we need a spec like percent of charge maintained for six months, or something along those lines.

Did you say 3000 life cycles. The pamphlet says 1000 life cycles that I just read after opening the box. I don’t quite understand. Is it 1000 or 3000 life cycles.

Most of the LiFePO4 power stations will maintain about 95% of their charge for over 12 months. it's pretty impressive.

Solar generator is just a marketing term, it isn't an actual product. A generator works by converting kinetic energy to electrical energy. A solar panel works by converting photons to electrical energy. The battery in a Jackery works by converting chemical energy to electrical energy, the same as a battery in a flashlight.

@@CreakyCricket Correct. But what people seem to have a hard time with, IS the marketing term. And it's not going to change so I don't get why they seem to have a hard time with calling it that. It is now set in marketing stone and will be for the foreseeable future. Thanks for the clarification.

Yeah as long as you don't need to rely 100% on solar recharge (since it's limited to 200W total) it's a good option.

Bummer, that was a definite selling point versus the competition.

I found that out after I received mine, they said they would send it but so far they havent.

I really like the VTOMAN power station but I guess I'm one day late for the great price that you mentioned in the video on UKposts.

@@vincentpompa5740 Same here

@@CC-uh3zn Are you sure it is jumper cables and not the battery charger? The description says "Car charger included" that is the jumper cable. Let us know if you indeed get the Jumper cable

I'd look for a 200W panel for sure. In the 200W category, I only have hands-on experience with the rigid BougeRV 200W panel and the AllPowers 200W foldable polycrystalline panel. I think both probably in the same ballpark, price wise, so it comes down to whether you want the portability/packability or not. Here's the video on the AllPowers panels compared with a couple of other brands: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/fYaHfneueKWnkXk.html There are links in the video description if you want to go check the current price on them. Here's the link for the BougeRV panels if you're thinking of going rigid for more permanent mount: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/aXOnlpd4oYCUqas.html I hope that helps!

Sounds Lome over kill just to power drones. I power my drone batteries with a small inverter I have plugged in the car. That's just a back up since I carry 6 batteries with me at all times.

We can't even get the higher capacity Jackery units in the UK through Amazon.

Nah. Nothing to worry about there.

What connectors do your solar panels have? The Jump 1000 has 2 DC5521 inputs, so you'll definitely need that on one end.

Check your maths

@@freewheelinfranklyn $873.99 to be exact, just under 900 bucks. In california the state gets to keep a cut of every purchase we make so the tax rate was 9.25% I just paid the state $74.00 and they didn’t do shit I know it sucks.

yeah, I'm liking what I'm seeing on that Delta 2. I'm hoping to have 1 to review here fairly soon.

I don’t like that all Delta’s have Wi-Fi blue tooth connection. If Delta get hack your device could be hacked as well and you’d still be in the dark with a $1000 generator

No argument from me on this. All fair points! :) I posted this video just prior to the release of the Jackery 1000 Pro, which is a significant improvement over the original E1000 that I have. But yeah, I have a couple of 2000Wh LiFePO4 power stations and they are heavy beasts!! Certainly good for a full body workout. hahaha

@@ReeWrayOutdoors Yeah but, you're no spring chicken he! he! People needs stop comparing how many cycles of charging between LFP and NMC. Yes, LFP does have few thousand cycles over NMC. But, the features on the Power station will fail before the battery and makes it useless. Just like led bulbs. It has 25,000 hour life. But, the converter fails well before that. Good led bulbs are good for about a year.

@Fart Zilla Your car led went out due to electronics and not due to the led itself. Consider yourself lucky or your kitchen lights are fixed and are not replaceable bulbs. Fixed seems to last much longer. For the replaceable type bulbs, I've replaced them at least once every other year.

Excellent question, Richard...and great application idea. Some power stations definitely have UPS capability, but the VTOMAN power stations do not. I've got a bunch of other power station reviews on the channel where they do have UPS built-in. Ugreen, Pecron, Anker, EcoFlow, Bluetti, oh, and I'm posting one tomorrow that does, also (Vigorpool Captain 1200).

Mike, I've not done a review on the Patriot 1800. I did go look at their website and try to get sense of what the specs are, and I would STRONGLY advise against buying that product. This unit is only 768Wh in capacity. If we assume that the solar panel they bundle it with is a 100W panel and that it makes up about $250 of the $2500 price tag, that would mean the Patriot 1800 costs $2.92 per Wh. Yes, you'd be getting a 1800W inverter, but what good is that when it won't power anything for very long. And compare that to Jackery (notoriously the most expensive option) at around $1 per Wh! Most of the units I review are going to be < $0.75 per Wh. The Pecron E2000 I most recently owned is extremely good and has MUCH better specs all the way around (incl nearly triple the capacity) than the Patriot 1800, and yet costs only $1400...(add $600 for 2 - 200W solar panels for 400W of solar input and you're still saving $500 and getting WAY more). Bottom line: you'll probably be much better off buying about ANYTHING other than the Patriot 1800 - this company is clearly (IMO) trying to capitalize on people's sense of patriotism and play on their fears. Don't fall for it!

Wow… thank you for such detail and concern! I have watched Patriot play with their price a lot. The fact is, the generator costs $2K plus tax with one 100W panel. The other $500 is for other goodies such as food supply, solar water heater, solar power station to charge phones, etc. They push that $2500 as the cost of the unit. Now, they have a “sale” for the $2K because you don’t get the goodies with it. I’ve been hesitant over 18 months to move forward. Then, you came along😅 How can anyone not like the VTOMAN? One question with that. You mentioned it’s a 200W max DC solar charge input. You connected two 200W panels. The tall panel in the back provided over 100W of charging power. What happens if you used two of those panels and it exceeds the 200W input? Thank you so much!

@@OneTruth56 I'm glad you dodged the bullet on that Patriot kit! You can 'over-panel' a power station without too much risk IF you're careful. Most power stations will have some over-current/over-voltage protection to ensure that they're not damaged if the input volts (or the amps) exceeds the charge-controller spec (they'll often either shut-down or just cap the input if the excessive input is only slightly above spec). BUT, it's definitely still possible to damage them if you suddenly get a significant input surge that is FAR above the rated max. Even though the Jump 1000 has a 200W DC max input (which I consider to be it's 1 primary weakness, if you plan on relying mostly on solar recharge), it's fairly common (in my southern Ohio latitude) to max out at between 50% to 80% of rated capacity on a solar panel (depending on conditions, time of year, temp, etc). That said, I knew when the conditions on that day that I was unlikely to be outputting more than about 50% capacity on those panels so I felt safe connecting 2 of them in parallel - but I'd generally not recommend since you'd eventually have a condition where you COULD damage the charge controller. So my recommendation is that if you anticipate the need to rely on solar (frequently or exclusively) for charging, you be looking at something more like the Pecron E2000 (which I'm hard-pressed to think of ANY complaints about). But if you don't really need frequent solar charging - the Jump 1000 or 1500 is an excellent buy.

@@ReeWrayOutdoors thank you ReeWray!

Hello ReeWay! I researched and took your advice. I purchased the Jump 1500X and Back-up battery. I might have made a mistake on the solar panels though. I saw you recommended the ELECAENTA 120W panels. I saw the ELECAENTA 200W panel and purchased that. Am I able to just use a 200W panel to charge, or do I have to split it up at the power station’s inputs with two 100-120W panels? I believe the 1500X can’t exceed a 200W solar charge as the Jump 1000 correct? Thanks

Thanks for your insights, Jeremy!

Exactly!

I agree as the one thing that keeps me from getting these larger capacity power stations is the solar input. I have the Bluetti EB70s and I think that is the max capacity(716Wh) I would go for 200W limit(real world being much less) when I see real world charging performance. This Vtoman is even bigger and worse still, looking at their website the 1800W version only has 200W solar charging as well. I was considering that model until I read that. I do appreciate that all newer power stations of pass through technology now.

Price on the jump 1000 needs to fall drastically. Realistically it should be around 50 cents per watt hour. On Black Friday I snagged one of the bluetti ps70 for $200. Sure, the jump 1000 is twice the capacity/inverter but it costs 5x as much. Makes it very hard to justify the purchase.

@@TheUnlikelyPotato With promotions and coupons $648 including tax.

Hi Maureen! I think you'll love this thing. As far as how much solar power do you need, keep in mind that the max DC input is 200W, and it's fairly common to typically see only about 80% of rated output on solar panels under 'typical' conditions. So sun/sky conditions where you live are pretty favorable, I think a single 200W panel would be a good choice. If you often have only partial sun, you might consider adding a 2nd 200W panel. If you DO opt for 2 panels, just take care to ensure they have the same voltage and Amps output specs so that when you combine them, you're getting the most out of them. If you combine panels with different specs, you'll put a lot of stress on the lower outputting panel and it will dumb-down your overall output, so I'd avoid that. :) I hope that helps!

I checked on that just last week and apparently they don't yet have distribution in UK. 🤔

@@ReeWrayOutdoors That's a shame, thank you for your quick reply I'll keep looking for that ideal power station that I can use as for small portable electric hob.

Yeah sounds like something is amiss. Have you reached out to them about it?

@@ReeWrayOutdoors No sir, it just started. I'm going to contact them tomorrow. If I hear from them I'll let you know..🙂 Thanks again for the videos..

Definitely a fair point. I agree that 200W is very tight for a 1000Wh+ power station. I'd really prefer to see 400-600W input max. And yeah, I'll be including practical solar charge times going forward, for sure.

This is more of an informercial for the VTOMAN Jump 1000, so they wont pat attention to your comment even though it's facts.

Sorry to hear you've had issues with Pecron. Definitely unfortunate. And I certainly don't disagree that dependability trumps specs every.single.time. But.... I haven't had any issues with either my Pecron E2000 or my VTOMAN Jump 1000 (and I do use them both regularly), so my experience has apparently been quite different. Still, I do appreciate hearing about your experience, contrary to what Mr. Saucedo seems to be assuming.

I think the power station by itself weighs in at about 35 lbs

Not sure how well that'd work... I suspect it would cause some whacky BMS issues...maybe? I recommended the 120W panels because you could easily 'over-panel' the unit by connecting 1 into each of the 2 inputs and get as much out of it as possible even in less-than-ideal conditions, while still being safe to not damage the charge controller in pristine conditions.

I do so many of these power station reviews that sometimes I make the assumption that people have seen other videos where I've gotten into these particular details. I did do a video over the summer that gets into how to figure out how much battery capacity you need (for whatever you're looking to do). You can check it out here if you think that might interest you: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/pnd4ZH6lrW-hlmQ.html

excellent question. I'm fairly certain this is not an issue, BUT I am testing this right now so I'll report back in 24 hours and let you know for certain!

@@ReeWrayOutdoors Excellent! I am ready to pull my trigger since the price is unbelievable, but will wait until your test results. Thank you again!

So, as long as the fridge draws at least some power within a 4 hour period, the unit will not turn off. I tested this by setting the fridge to 50 deg F. so the compressor only comes on about once every hour or 2. No auto shut-off after 24 hours.

@@ReeWrayOutdoors Great! I can't say how much I appreciate your time and effort to test this out for us. Thank you!

Yeah, clearly it's had an impact already as Jackery has recently (finally) gotten more competitive with the introduction of their E1000 Pro. Still uses NMC chemistry though (which has its pros and cons for sure, but my preference remains LiFePO4).

@@ReeWrayOutdoors yup as predicted batteries are getting better as more developers get in the business jackery was great but the technology is moving forward

I'll be putting up a follow-up video on the Jump1000 here in a couple of days which will have a new discount code. I'll have to check and see if will work in UK.

As far as my experience goes, I've only queried their customer support a couple of times with questions, but in both cases they replied within 1 or 2 business days. And I did notice that the AC adapter did get hot, but no where near 215 deg as I was able to hold it in my hand without being burned... so definitely not 215 deg, and this was after a full recharge from fully depleted.

@@ReeWrayOutdoors That is helpful, thank you. Do you feel that the heat level that you experienced (though lower than what I mentioned) was typical (and safe) for power stations being charged from full depletion?

I think it is fairly typical...at least what I experienced. I will say that the AC adapter brick doesn't FEEL cheap like some do. It at least feels like it's well built and not made of cheap brittle plastic. It's got some heft to it. Some details for you: The AC adapter outputs 24v @ 7.5A (180W) and the output cable is ~3ft long and 16 awg. So technically, it can handle 10A. That cable does get warm to the touch, but not really 'hot'. I'd have preferred that they used 14 awg, but it's within spec so.... I'm not expecting issues. I hope that helps.

@@ReeWrayOutdoors That is very helpful. I will still consider the product based on your comments. I am impressed that they use a better quality Lithium ion cell than brands like Jackery and therefore have many more life cycles (though of course not as much as an LiFe PO4 station).

@@ReeWrayOutdoors How long does it take to recharge to full from the AC source.

I wish it was that simple of an explanation. :-/ I've tried a variety of configurations and can never get more than about 117W into the E1000, where the same configuration will produce much higher input on another power station. But...scratching my head to try and remember if I've actually connected 2 - 100W in series. I'll have to try that when the sun comes back out and see if that breaks the 117W barrier on my E1000. If so, that would mean there's about a 6.5A max on that DC input - which is still lame. I'm glad it's been addressed though in the new E1000 Pro.

Thank you sir!! Go Cats!

Amazon price is now $850 after all discounts/coupons applied, but before tax.

yeah they made the change to not include the jump module when they updated the product line last month (a couple of months after I posted this video). Is it really $110?? I can't even find it on their website now. :-/

Yeah it was slightly variable conditions. Also, I don't think I had optimized the output on the AllPowers panel (which was only outputting about 80W by itself) and so it was dumbing-down the output on the BougeRV panel, giving me a total of only 163W combined.

Thanks you for the reply! Was the AllPower panel actually 100w? That would make more sense. (Both had 50-60% output on that day.) Otherwise, 80w max out of 200w on AllPower is really low for efficiency.

No, it was the 200W Allpowers, and it typically does much better than that, so I'm not sure why it was outputting so poorly in that clip.

Hi thank you for the information, base on your solar testing, you connected 400W? (20V with 20A)? Isnt the rated input is only 200W?

@@leomo9659 Yes, that's correct. I knew I wasn't getting full output from the panels and I was hoping to 'max' the DC input. Didn't quite work out as I'd planned, but did highlight the difference between the Jump 1000 and the Jackery 1000, which was ultimately my intention.

It DOES have a fan, yes (they all do). And I'd rank the fan noise on this unit as moderate when it does kick-in (and kicks-in for about 2 seconds when you first turn on the AC inverter, then turns off unless operating in a hot environment or under heavy load). Definitely the most quiet unit I've tested.