Nokta Legend VS Minelab Manticore | The Ultimate Head To Head

Nokta Legend VS Minelab Manticore | The Ultimate Head To Head | 10 Hole Shootout |Metal Detecting Uk

7 місяців тому

The Ultimate test. Legend Vs Manticore in a 10 hole live target Shootout in the field. the results are shocking.
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@Imightbewrongbutsomightyou 7 місяців тому

I don't watch for the detector, I just watch for the finds... I have the simplex and I know I am missing stuff, but at least I am out and about enjoying time from work, etc... and to be fair, It's nice knowing that I am always leaving finds for others, a little bit of charity, lol 😂

@johnboyle243 7 місяців тому

Interesting Dan but if you hit a target with the manticore it can changes the aura response from the target it can depend on the target material. The legend is trying to read a disrupted signal. I first noticed this when comparing readings with my digging partner I would find a target he would check his machine against my readings and then I would check it again and quite often struggle to find it because we’ve disrupted the aura much like when you dig the target and then struggle to find it because you’ve disturbed the aura. The 2 machines your testing use different algorithms and combinations of frequencies which can stimulate a different response. As you probably know all detectors have restricted power output and most modern machines use the maximum permitted output, the only real difference is how they configure the Frequency algorithms and they keep that a very closely guarded secret.

@mogschrauber6651 7 місяців тому

Ah Ok! Good to hear that becasue a digging friend and I have similar situations when one of us find a target the other has issues to get a clear singal over it. After a while it starts to work "normal"

@ianl1741 6 місяців тому

I think the only real difference part is not quite true honestly, when I did my research before buying the mantic Manticore I learned the zminlab engineers developed Better RX circuits and the coils essentially than the equinox they claim. So although it may be transmitting the same power, if it is, the receiving circuit is refined. I don't think there's any doubt that the Manticore is one of the best detectors when it comes to EMI...perhaps that's another symptom of this kind of change--better filtering of unwanted noise making desired signal detection better. Owning manticor, I can say it is incredibly sensitive...too sensitive maybe. I'll find standard staples and little bbs if I let it XD (meaning accept those iron or use all metal). The carrot can't even find those targets readily. And the foil...it's so hard to pinpoint the foil targets I find with the carrot...sometimes they don't pinpoint at all in rare cases even pressed up against the nose. When you're struggling even with a top pinpointer...you know something's up. Also engineers said Mantivore is tuned very aggressively, more trash and more treasure expected. So frankly I have little doubt it does indeed have better detection characteristics. Iratemetaldetectors .com is a good one .... NYC metal detectors... his thoughts pretty much mirror mine. Dues 2 is the other top contender and Maybe it would find this kind of stuff too, that would be the more interesting comparison! All that said I'm not entirely convinced more aggressive is the way to go especially in more trashy sites. You just spend so much time digging bits of this and that if you investigate everything. So maybe manticore is best brought in later when a site starts to go quiet like this. Basically zi'm saying if there are numerous targets...probably fine to just stick with legend. For sure you won't dig all this little tiny stuff, maybe miss a few tiny good things but you can cover more ground and find good bigger things. Legend is probably "easier to use" as a result in a way. Mantivore yes you can ignore more iffy stuff etc, but there's a tendency to dig more small stuff

@jefferybernard4800 5 місяців тому

You brought up an interesting point ☝️ I want to know what the settings are on each one maybe the mantacore was more optimized closer than the legend was go through a few settings and see which one works the best I thought about contacting knocked up with these test results and see what they could do in software to help it out

@johnboyle243 4 місяці тому

@@ianl1741 I agree with what you’re saying about being to sensitive on iron infested sites I notice Dan said he had recover set at 5 during this test that would be too slow and deep on my Roman fields, I have to run my legend much higher at 8 and I use a much lower IF 1 or 2 to pick out non ferrous amongst the iron. It finds tiny air rifle pellets and other small lead so I know it’s not missing anything in the top 6 inches. My ground is very ironised and all signals are amplified by the wet conditions at the moment making it very difficult. Sensitivity is set quite low at around 20 with the lg24 coil to cope with the conditions.

@johnboyle243 3 місяці тому

@@billbarry2984 apparently the Anfibio is a deep detector and a bit challenging to set up so it’s not suitable for everyone. Sid on Englands History did a good video on it, as did Merrill the New York detectorist.

@tomweber8194 3 місяці тому

It would be interesting to mark several targets that the legend missed, then play with the legend settings to see if they can be improved to the point of keeping pace with the manticore so we understand how to tweak better.

@norseman1137 6 місяців тому

I often notice when youtubers clearly favour a product... Id like to see this same comparison done by two people going at it with full enthusiasm for their machine. Adjusting settngs to maximise conditions and response. I think you might get different results ... For example 22 is quite low sensitivity on legend and i wonder if you kept recovery low.

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 6 місяців тому

I love the legend and have been a nokta man from the start. Its not a case of favouritism, its just that one machine is better than the other. I had the legend set up exactly as it should be for that field with the same settings I always use. Too high sensitive in all that iron and you wouldn't pick out any targets. Recovery was at 5. This wasn't a test to see if I could change settings to hit items, as that's impossible to do in real life, as you wouldn't of known the targets were there. This was to see if I was missing anything and to find out why such a quiet field was now full of targets and I was finding more roman coins. The answer was because of the manticore. I've got hundreds of hours on the legend, so I can assure you it was set up at its best for that land 👍

@OldWizardGaming 4 місяці тому

Kinda like when people comment about something they clearly favor. One is a better machine and it should be based on the price difference.

@johnboyle243 Місяць тому

@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting it would be good to see an experienced detectorist like you Dan take up the Nokta challenge. No one’s been brave enough to take them up on it yet not even the experts at Minelab or XP.

@hectordetectorist6919 7 місяців тому

Well done mate, I've been interested to see a comparison for some time. I would expect a detector that costs over a grand more to be better. I did notice that your legend and pointer seemed excessively sparky. I can run my legend most of the time at 30 with no great problems and my AT pro pointer never chirps unless it's near a signal Anyway good luck with the Manticore and I look forward to seeing deeper finds!

@benjambrown1512 7 місяців тому

Good video, interesting to see the difference between the two machines, I’d argue though that those iffy signals you failed the legend on are worth digging, majority of hammered coins at depth or Romans don’t sound great, also I noticed signal 10 (Roman coin) you circled the coin with the manticore but only came at it with 1 angle on the legend…. 🤔 that might have made a great difference, both great machines, yes the manticore is more pronounced on the signals but I’d turn that legend sensitivity up to atleast 26, 22 is low in my opinion, look forward to the next video 👍🏼

@leehodgkiss6709 7 місяців тому

TBH if the legend is only missing the slightest of bits as it was in the vid I wouldn't be too bothered and that shows in the price range too as the manticore should be winning those comparisons but not by much really , either way both great machines ! Keep up the good vids pal

@kevinbarker7930 7 місяців тому

I don't think the result was unexpected Dan. As a legend user, didn't look great as most of the targets were shallow too. I guess a higher recovery may have helped but I'm clutching. I'll still be watching your videos Dan. You can do all your fields again with the Manticore now lol. Take Care dude. Kev

@user-tw4vs2kc7p 7 місяців тому

A very interesting test Dan. Good work on all the effort you put in for us subscribers its much appreciated mate

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

Thank you mate 👍

@norwegianvikingexplorer 7 місяців тому

I think that you would have hit all the targets with the Legend in pitch sound. On difficult ground I tend to swittch to Beach Multi wet for more depth and I think its more sensitive for low conductors amongst iron etc...

@Dalboy. 7 місяців тому

Since I've been using pitch it's a game changer for me on my fields,slow your swing down

@Dalboy. 7 місяців тому

@thediggingdudes ploughed and pasture you will notice a difference I'm on 1.09

@James-dtexTexas 7 місяців тому

I’ve often wondered how the Legend would hold up against a higher end machine and I can say I’m somewhat satisfied with the results. I know ground minerals have a lot to do with performance but I think the settings you’re using put it at a slight disadvantage. But then again, you are there ( referring to soil minerals ) and I’m here so it is what it is. Thanks for the video. Nice coin there at the end. Be blessed and stay safe friend. James Texas , USA.

@pistolpete938 7 місяців тому

Òh you've opened a can of worms here Dan, I have both machines your testing and my mate has the legend, he's asked why you didn't find the targets with the legend? ,and that the manticore was, left on too near the target area I know it's a fairly hard task to do this test as people will always find fault no matter how you do it and it was done for your own quriosity as to why the manticore was finding targets after you'd been over the field numerous times. Anyway 8 know it was done honestly and it wi🎉 be interesting to see you checking signals when your mate turns up with his legend. Keep them coming!.

@TheLandPirates1 7 місяців тому

I told you that manticore would bring your old fields to life 🏋🏻‍♂️. Awesome, thanks for your hard work.

@diggingnashvegas 7 місяців тому

The 6x9 would have nailed that roman....just sayin..the lg 30 can struggle in close targets, the 1300 dollar difference should tell you the value....i do like the cleaner sound, but worries me you depend on it more, which brings into question, does it hear the little stuff around the target

@kobbz1161 7 місяців тому

Thanks for the vid! Interesting results, I guess the Legend runs 1.09, I didn't hear about the next update I'm curious to see what Nokta will bring to the table since 1.11 is supposed to be the best of the best, next time stock 11" coil with 5-6 reactivity could be cool to compare, sometimes low reac cut signals or make them hard to notice at normal wing speed when there is iron. Really like the mindset don't change anything buddy enjoy your new machine

@shotokanman1 7 місяців тому

Be good To do the same test again when the legend gets its depth upgrade software new relic mode ,very interesting video,proves the legends not balanced properly yet,and still needs a few updates ,to be honest, i think the nox would have found them targets too,what do you think🤔👍❤️

@Stefan-wd9uv 7 місяців тому

Nothing wrong with testing new gear! "Beast mode" update for legend will be interesting!

@noway423 7 місяців тому

And 30 cm coil😇👍

@dennisjanssen1495 7 місяців тому

Thanks for taking the effort to make this video after such an epic day! Incredible machine that manticore, still enjoy the legend tho. But this was very useful to see how those targets came trough on that.

@chemav1726 7 місяців тому

Now we know that the legend does not detect some things that the Manticore does. We need to know the opposite case, detect it first with the Legend and see if the Manticore also finds it. Anyway, in my opinion, the price difference is so big that, for finding an extra coin for every 10 holes, the Manticore is not worth it 😁

@Deano54 7 місяців тому

Willing to miss a silver or roman out of 10 holes is ridiculous. Manticore certainly worth the extra unless you can't afford it and that is understandable. 😢

@CubeShimmy 5 місяців тому

@@Deano54it's not worth 🤣

@johnboyle243 5 місяців тому

There’s probably a greater risk of missing targets with either machine due to the operators failure to optimise their machine for the ground they are on add to that poor technique and you’ve spent a lot of money for nothing except to maybe massage your ego. I haven’t seen a marked increase in the depth or quality of finds Dan has found since using the manticore. If brand loyalty is important to you and your prepared to support it with your cash fine but don’t expect miracles simply because you’ve traded up from your nox800 or legend to the manticore and spent a lot of money.

@billbarry2984 2 місяці тому

What are the settings he used on the Legend?

@billbarry2984 2 місяці тому

Minelab definitely not worth the price!!

@foreversearchingste 7 місяців тому

Excellent video as always Dan. My wife just bought me the manticore, so I'll be learning with you. Keep the vids coming mate

@jerrytalley802 Місяць тому

I’ve never had a Manticore but owned a hundred Minelabs. The Legend is the most reasonable SMF by far, less features, the double score. Plus, Minelabs have a poor reputation for quality, so if coil ears break, or like the equinox it leaks and is out of commission, better performance does no good. I do hear good things about the manticore though, and love the big screen, and how easy and intuitive the menu is. I get out so little anymore it’s not worth the money. Have you used the Deus 2, more of a fair test in the price range?

@keithrichardson7727 7 місяців тому

Well done Dan and yes we do appreciate your efforts and thank you. were you still running the Legend on 1.09 ?

@waltercordemans5123 7 місяців тому

Thanks for the video Dan, but somehow I got the feeling you're not using the Legend correctly. If you need to lower your sensitivity to that point, you need to check your other settings. I hunt in areas with high EMI and I still manage to go 25 or above. Choosing the right frequency and reactivity will get you a long way. I would have no problem at all finding the targets in your test with my legend. I was also not surprised that the Manticore found those targets too, would be a shame that a detector that cost 3x as much wouldn't perform that way 🙂

@noway423 7 місяців тому

Yeeep... This peaple don't understand Legend settings...

@noway423 7 місяців тому

And more setting...

@johnboyle243 3 місяці тому

I have to run my Legend sensitivity between 18 & 22 reactivity at 8 with the LG24 coil, field M2 and IF at 1 or 2 to pick out targets between all the iron on my Roman site I’m hitting small Roman coins up to 8” deep in wet ironised soil. So I conclude it’s not the detector but the operator that is the biggest factor in finding stuff in the ground.

@scottbellward4426 7 місяців тому

Brilliant watching as usual Dan welcome to the minelab world (game changer )

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

Thank you buddy, definitely a game changer 👌

@somersetsearchers 7 місяців тому

It's a difficult thing to do a live comparison in the field, I would say the Manticore does better among the iron, but not by much, a change to the Legends iron filter might have been better on that field or maybe not, not enough time in a day to go through all the variables, I still think the Legend is worth every penny over the Manticore. ATB Bill and Julie X 👍😊❤

@aidencollyer4498 7 місяців тому

Another fantastic video, thank you!

@EASYKEYSY1 7 місяців тому

What settings are you on with the manticore do a video about it please

@whatsintheplugdetecting23 3 місяці тому

Very informative video. I have the Legend and love the machine for the price I paid for it. My friend and my brother have the manticore, brother doesnt like it, so issue with it, and my friend uses his Legend more than the Manticore and my brother bought the Deus II which he likes. All the machine are great ones, I guess its up the person really. But still a great informative video for those who are looking into getting either machine. New to your Channel. All the best John.

@probes 3 місяці тому

Hi Dan Thanks for the test and very interesting results, as has been said above, a machine costing 3 times as much should be significantly better so no surprises. I'd be interested to see a side by side now with 1.11 though. All the targets there seemed pretty shallow so am surprised the Legend missed any of them. I can easily hit a small button at 8" and hit a thimble at about 12". There was a problem with the drivers, dont know if that was affecting your machine or not, but now it's definitely hitting deeper than all those targets. I tend to use M1, recovery 3/4 and sensitivity 23/24. IF 4. I'm not a massive youtube watcher, just the odd video now and again but you're on my list of ones to watch. Keep going

@garyherman183 7 місяців тому

Nice one buddy,number 10 test was a game changer,do well buddy

@digginwithdude Годину тому

New sub here friend! you have some really great content. Inspiring. That is one ripe looking field

@Flint-I 7 місяців тому

I think that was a very fair comparison Dan in that setting and ground moisture etc . Yeah !! . I'll say no more . Thank you ,an very much appreciated ✌👍

@williamdavies3190 3 місяці тому

The tests says it all thanks

@jorgelineiro3342 6 місяців тому

veremos la nueva actualización de legend , la esperamos - saludos desde Argentina -

@jamescamfield4828 7 місяців тому

Great video again Dan. Fair comparison test I would say. I really want a manticore but funds say otherwise. 😂 will have to stick with my nox 700 for now.

@juliancooke1801 7 місяців тому

Great test

@tomwheeler7816 7 місяців тому

should of walked a line with the Legend then the same line with the Manticore to see if you had missed any from hole to hole ,

@probes 3 місяці тому

You can easily miss targets just by not swinging over it, even if you do walk the same line.

@lars2you 7 місяців тому

Interesting video. Thank you. I have never, ever detuned my Legend that much though. I think it is much more sensitive than in this comparison.

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

What makes you say that it is detuned? Thanks for your comment 👍

@lars2you 7 місяців тому

@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting Hi Dan! Sorry...I should have been more specific. I was referring to the sensitivity being down so low. I mostly hunt in highly mineralized clay, and have never had it below 27, and rarely take it off 30. It is chatty, but I am ok with that because genuine targets (good or bad) hit hard. Can I ask what the recovery and stability are set at? Putting my stability to 4 made a huge difference, in my soil. I do realize California is a world apart from UK though. I am definitely not a Minelab basher. I own three, plus their pinpointer! Still considering the Manticore, but at that price I want to be 90% sure it is really better. I do like the tone better when it hits the target!

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

OK, so a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that sensitivity will help with depth etc but in fact it needs to be though more of, as being like an audio gain. Having it to low will not allow enough of the target to come through, but having it too high will allow the bigger iron halo to come through and mask the signals beside it. If your machine is chatty, then you will be missing signals. Your machine needs to be just on the edge of stable where you are getting the odd blip of falsing 👍

@darbysdownhomedetecting 4 місяці тому

Great advice Dan. I would have to agree about the gain @@DiggerDanMetalDetecting

@jasonobrien8861 7 місяців тому

Brilliant test. I'd love to see how the xterra pro would do in a similar test with the legend 👍

@DIRTBROSDETECTING 7 місяців тому

Great comparison, the minelab tones have always stood out and the manticore is a nice thing to swing, should be for the price mind! Thanks for sharing👍

@danielshields6195 7 місяців тому

well done. is what it is. I own both detectors and use in different applications.

@somebeachdetecting 7 місяців тому

This was a very good head-to-head review. Now you can go back to all those fields that you checked with the legend and clean house with manticore😅

@BMW7series251 7 місяців тому

Brilliant test DD. Your choice of the Manticore was good, though the Legend is a fine machine. Take care M8, cheers, John.

@BobBalcomb-bo4eq 7 місяців тому

Great Video as normal m8 What do people expect the manticore over £1000 pounds more then the Legend, and I’m sure with the Beast upgrade promised for our legends it will close that gap, Si pound for pound the Legend is up there with the manticore 😝 😆 l still want one though 😝 as I said I have had the pleasure of using the Manticore and it definitely is a new experience Good luck m8 see you soon

@noway423 7 місяців тому

😇👍

@noway423 7 місяців тому

Those who bought Manticore, won't tell the update problems and others... They invested a lot of money... Should the world laugh at them?....

@robertwallings3762 7 місяців тому

i am new to your channel but have watch lots That was very impressed best regards Robert Wallings

@gustavogutierrez419 7 місяців тому

Settings on the Legend could be better bro, but can you imagine what a Legend with a thpusand dollars more in tecnology will do!!!,excellent video brother but the pinpointer got me crazy,my nokta pulse dive pinpointer is a dream. I think that the Manticore and Deus ll it's more fear battle in all points due the high prices they have.I love more my Legend after all,that Manticore is in flames 🤑👌👍

@jomon723 6 місяців тому

Wow, very nice, I ordered the Manticore and was thinking of getting the Legend too, because of a good deal. Maybe I will wait, Here in Japan there is a rare very small bronze coin like that maybe even smaller. Thanks for the side by side, I have great hopes for the Madicore here at my old spots going back 35 years.

@noway423 7 місяців тому

In the tests that are done, any small and wrong setting leads to VDI mistakes... 👀...

@antonyheisler1453 7 місяців тому

I think I should add to my previous comment Dan. If the manticore is working better than the legend for you, then god-speed man and enjoy the ride. No excuses or apologies needed. I just hope in the long run your experience dealing with minelab is better than mine was. They do seem to put more into supporting the UKposts celebreties than they do the average joe. Have fun.

@norseman1137 6 місяців тому

I think they appear to have quite an aggressive media marketing strategy...

@antonyheisler1453 7 місяців тому

I think there's something wrong with your Legend, or you have something set wrong. I see it choking and clipping on surface targets (after you've dug them out), and at any depth. Mine does not operate the way yours is sounding. But that said, for a thousand Canadian dollars more the ML better be superior. Too bad that Minelab doesn't value their customers though. In Canada we're still waiting to hear a release date for the extra coils. They're an arrogant company that over-prices, lies to customers, and treats people like garbage. Maybe time to look at a Deus 2 instead. My experience with Minelab over the years here in Canada has been terrible.

@wobblybob7029 3 місяці тому

it is £539.00 v £1799 .00

@Anthony-wn8gn 17 днів тому

I think your right

@simondrewett3276 7 місяців тому

Thanks for the comparison, results were as expected due to the price difference, you want something for two/ three times the price difference. But if I saw that correctly bar the pin and the last coin the legend wasnt picking up on lead targets in some cases whereas the mantinwas showing them as a favourable dig option, alas you would be annoyed at having to dig lead over and over. My legend struggles.with deep iron and thinks it's a worthy target, so I can appreciate the annoyance. Have to take into account you are new to the manticore so still fine tuning to it, where as you know the legend very well. Both are good machines,but the manti has to have the edge based upon expectations and the price difference, and the results on the day. Follow the digger,not the machine, so I for one will continue to follow your adventures and I am sure many of us will do., Monday nights would be the same mate.

@billbarry2984 2 місяці тому

If he knew the Legend very well he would have set the sens so low!!!! 😂

@paulcarpenter7428 7 місяців тому

Hi Dan, very interesting. Do you think coil size makes any difference? I use the LG30 most of the time and it is a game changer - so much better than the LG28. The LG24 is very effective in close stubble. Thank you for the opportunity to watch the "challenge". Was Legend using 1.09 or 1.11? Sorry so many questions.

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

Hi mate m, I generally use the LG30 on open land as it is larger so covers more ground, it is great at separation and its lighter thank the standard. Each coil has its own place in the fields, depending on the situation 👍. For the test I was on 1.09 Thank you for watching 👍

@mikeslater1545 Місяць тому

Dialed in your settings for a journey your area in a couple weeks. Thanks for the info. I've been trying to find a container like the one use, do you have a source to share?

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting Місяць тому

Thanks mate, I hope the settings work well for you 👍. My coin pod Is custom mate at snddetectorist.com/ The other finds pot is made by Coinpod. They sell on ebay www.ebay.co.uk/itm/276068291808?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=eLwftvF9RKS&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=y7LjMEaHScK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

@Dalboy. 7 місяців тому

Very interesting I've been using pitch tone the last couple outings, I've found alot more recovery 7 m1 works perfect on my fields. But the manticore does the job well done Dan keep up the good work👍👊

@DiggerDavies10 7 місяців тому

Thanks for doing the comparison Dan. I’d asked previously on another video. All I can say is that it’s definitely caused some controversy 😂 To know that there’s a possibility that I’ve missed quite a lot with the Legend has got my mind boggling 🤪lol. I kind of feel cheated having walked miles and miles with the possibility that I’ve walked over hoards of Celtic Gold 🤣 If did upgrade at some point though it’s nice knowing that there’s a possibility that I could find more on my permissions (of which I don’t have a huge amount) Keep those videos coming 👌🏻 Top man!

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

You're welcome mate, thank you for watching and the positive comment 👍 😀. You would certainly find more with a manticore. This was just 10 holes, another 10 may be completely different, but I'm not going to find out lol 😆. I think it was that roman coin that got me. Not something I want to be missing 🤔.

@colintilcock3320 7 місяців тому

Great video, perhaps could have upped the audio gain on the legend 😊

@1trikz 7 місяців тому

Very low sensitivity on the legend I go with 26/27 But always new the manticore would win Great video 👌🏻

@billbarry2984 3 місяці тому

It should at that price lol

@DetectingMercia 7 місяців тому

OK, well useful thanks Dan, but I'll stick with my 'plug and play' Simplex Plus and just have a blast with what I find on my permissions. 👍👍

@norseman1137 7 місяців тому

I'm not sure why the legend was down at 22/23... I pretty much run at 25-27.. also it looked like recovery on legend was to low for your swing speed. Interested in all other settings on legend IF etc... also n lastly ... a significant price jump rather like comparing a Porsche with a Golf 😅

@davidboyd4584 2 місяці тому

Hi Dan good video I tend to do the same sometimes with my mates Deus 2 so far I have managed to hit every target he has but that could be because I know where the target is. I know it is not intentional because you have always been honest on your videos as per when you compared 1.09 and 1.11 but I did detect a bit of unconscious bias towards the Legend. Some of the iffy targets you said the Legend did not get I would have dug I would have dug but that's probably why I dig so much rubbish or holes with nothing in,I am still learning. It would have been helpful to see the full swing with the Manticore and not just the little swing over the target when you have found it, was it as clear. I sometimes just catch a signal concentrate on the area and get a decent signal. So how did the signal compare to your full swing over the target. I do miss your legend video's. As I say I am still learning so for me at the moment it would be like buying a new golf driver its superior to my old one but makes very little difference because I am not that good at golf lol. More comparrisons please maybe go over a small area with Lengend and cover it really well and then go over with the Manticore and see if there is a big difference. Thanks for the videos but can you do some on the Legend again please.

@Dig_it_123 Місяць тому

Your settings cant be on as i have my Legend dialed in and would smash all them targets easily as i find tiny tiny pieces of lead all the time and it booms on it.....

@robertthompson9554 7 місяців тому

I may have missed something, but what exactly are your settings on the Legend. If you didn't up the sensitivity or any other settings you are setting the legend up to fail against a far more expensive machine.

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

I set both machines up exactly as I would use them in that field. I lower my sensitivity because it is a roman site and jam-packed with iron. Having the sensitivity too high causes lots of falsing and chatter. I've spent 100s of hours on the legend and can tell you it was set up perfectly for the land I was on. Thanks

@danssmokintreasures 4 місяці тому

Sweet. I just got a Legend. Curious how this goes.

@noway423 7 місяців тому

The Nokta is a finish for all monopoly.... 👀✝️

@brokenarrowoutdoors2467 7 місяців тому

The detector does matter and the person swinging it. I was using a nox 800 and switched to manticore. I had never found a three cent nickel before. They are really small. Rings up at a 9 on manticore. I’ve found two so far. Just found another yesterday at 11”. Not many detectors would have picked that up how fast I swing.

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

You are correct mate, it makes a big difference. Some people just get very attached the the brand of their machine, but it's good to try new brands to see what they are all about. Like you, I am definitely finding more now, so to me it's a no brainer 👌

@eliesaikaly1911 7 днів тому

I think in my opinion the equinox 900 much cheaper than the manticore and very close in price to the legend and both work very good.

@wreckinball11 5 місяців тому

I've had yet to use a detector. If the Legend was set up correctly for the area and missed 4 at 1/3 the price I think it's good enough for entry level.

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 5 місяців тому

Totally agree 👍 this was not to slate the Legend at all, just a comparison. The legend is a fantastic machine in its price range 👌

@ChrissyEis 7 місяців тому

The Legend is awesome

@garyedwards6467 6 місяців тому

Puzzled, being a seasoned detectorist myself, I cant believe what I've just seen, any/most machines on the market would have hit everything the Manticore did.

@mikeslater1545 7 місяців тому

Interesting. Would the test be somewhat better if both used roughly the same size coils

@robquince3076 7 місяців тому

No brainer Dan👏👏👏

@dutch-detector 7 місяців тому

This a test that is useful, thank you Dan! The difference in price is one thing, but at the end of the day, we all want to find everything. So yeah, the Manticore is better and in the long run more value for money, because if you have the Legend you will now always have in the back of your mind that your missing out on things.

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

Well said mate, couldn't of put it better myself. We shouldn't get so attached to one brand, its good to branch out and if your new machine finds more, the you are on to a winner 👌👍

@dutch-detector 7 місяців тому

@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting exactly, and why should anyone get attached to a brand? I want the best I can afford. I went from Garrett to MINELAB and I now have the XP DEUS II. The next machine I buy, is the best I can afford when I feel it’s time to buy a new detector.

@ronkendall2849 7 місяців тому

Truth is they're both good machines. I'd expect better build quality from a machine that costs 3 times as much. Bottom line is am I going to find more with the Manticore. I'm not convinced I would 🤔

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

You never know until you try one mate 👍. It's definitely a different ball game with the manticore. Can't knock the legend though, in its price range, it's the best machine on the market and more 👌. That why it's a worth competitor against the manticore 👍

@mikeharrington950 20 днів тому

To be fair, you can get 3 legends for the price of the manicore, so I don't think it's that bad

@nissanbakish 5 місяців тому

Buongiorno Dan, what version did the Legend is during the comparison?

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 5 місяців тому

It was on 1.09 mate 👍

@beepdigsplosh 7 місяців тому

Not trying to stir a hornets nest but those settings are not getting the best out of the legend M2 is very sparky and you have detuned to compensate lots of people have img trouble on the latest update M1 sensitivity 28 , IF 2 stability 0 or 1 will find much better performance and defiantly need to ground balance

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

I didn't want to change from my usual setting, as that's not what you would do in the field for targets you don't know are there. If the legend couldn't see them with the setting I've spent 100s of hours fine tuning into that field, then I'm missing them. Thanks for the settings though mate, maybe one for me to try another time 👍😁

@noway423 7 місяців тому

It's strange what I'm saying... I saw the test done with Legend in the field and with Multi wet, in which the signals were very clear... Strange things... Multi wet in the field?...,🧐

@swiftdetecting 7 місяців тому

What coil for Legend using in this one ?

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

It's the LG30 Coil mate 👍

@swiftdetecting 7 місяців тому

do you think the nox 800 is better than legend ? so if u have nox 800 that may have not missed the roman ?

@patrickcasey3155 7 місяців тому

very interesting but im not that suprised all the best

@Treasurehuntingwithtomandmarie 7 місяців тому

Really interesting comparisons! It was 60% on this occasion, your next 10 could be 90% but I reckon over time it will settle around 75%. But one thing I would say, I doubt the legend would see something the manticore couldn’t! I bet you were shattered after that day!

@norwegianvikingexplorer 7 місяців тому

I think the Legend would se more small gold than the manticore. The Legend is better finding gold chains and small nuggets.

@Treasurehuntingwithtomandmarie 7 місяців тому

@@norwegianvikingexplorer potentially but we won’t know until Dan gets some gold! Over to you Dan! 😆 To be honest i seriously think the manticore will see everything the legend does.

@zulizwan1739 7 місяців тому

what if "'your next 10 could be 10% but I reckon over time it will settle around 25%"? it can go both ways

@Treasurehuntingwithtomandmarie 7 місяців тому

@@zulizwan1739 yes of course you could be right. But I’d say there was more chance it would go the way I suggested.

@billmurphyoutdoors337 7 місяців тому

seems to me that you where favoring the manticore from the start...it's hard to have a fair test when you favor one or the other...

@rickymorris2372 5 місяців тому

Have to agree with you on that one unless you're looking to find something of gold M1 is the best option and to say sensitivity has nothing to do with depth I have many times had mine down for stability and get a decent one way or faint tone and crank it up and can hear it much better so yes it does make a difference. I'm not brand loyal I own the legend as I've had many others that to me is still good machines and if one is beat fairly hey congratulations but from the legend settings used here and someone asked what was the manicore setting that wasn't answered so most likely wide open. I been doing this for over 20 years and if sensitivity has nothing to do with depth then leave the legend as is and turn the manicore down to 10 and then come tell me that it don't matter.

@biggamehound101 3 місяці тому

Would like to the Simplex in all Metal Mode against that too.😊

@claudiocollao1834 6 місяців тому

Hola yo creo y por lo que vi es que el legend discrimina mucho mejor que el manticor

@Liam_Dennett_GMDC 7 місяців тому

Did minelab let keep It after your test bro

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 7 місяців тому

I'm keeping it because I payed for it mate 👍

@user-ts3mh7hd8f 3 місяці тому

Obviously the man is a minelab favorite. The legend hit also and I would definitely dug

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 3 місяці тому

👍

@jefferybernard4800 5 місяців тому

What were the settings on each detector

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 5 місяців тому

The Legend was on my cultivates settings, specifically tuned for that field V1.09 . Set ground balance to 0 . noise cancel. .discrimination pattern A .field mode. .multi 2 .Recovery 5 .iron filter 2, stability 3 . audio gain 3 .sensitivity 23 .60 tone .First tone brake set to 8 And the manticore was set up in all terrain fast 5 region all tones Sensitivity 22 Recovery 6 0 ground balance Stabiliser off Multi iQ

@noway423 7 місяців тому

You must to show the settings for everyone... Dont tell as i have old setings in Nokta and i play.... 🧐👀😶

@danielmorrison9126 4 місяці тому

Considering the price difference the Legend is holding up well. I'm totally surprised. I'm running an older Explorer model and thing of changing.

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 4 місяці тому

The Legend is a great machine for the price, and definitely held its own in this test 👌. The manticore really is a game changer after using it for a while now. It really is that good 🙌

@elder199 2 місяці тому

O Manticore fez juz ao preço, quase 3 vezes o valor do legend não poderia ter outro resultado.

@emilyjayne77 7 місяців тому

You could do with a caddy ⛳️

@shotokanman1 7 місяців тому

Been using the legend for 3 months mainly beach and i believe theres a serious depth issue with this 1.11 software,my vanquish will destroy it on depth🤔 any one else having depth issues

@probes 3 місяці тому

Have you done the driver update from silicon labs? Mine became a new machine when I did it, changed from 4" targets to 8-12" easily

@Dans_digs 7 місяців тому

Oh jeez Dan, I'm gonna have to start digging more iffys with my Legend 🙈 On that note, the Minelab guys at Detectival let me test my Legend out on their test bed after using the manticore, and there was a noticeable difference there too..! Was the same on the deus test bed, was really liking using the deus 2 👀

@Stefan-wd9uv 7 місяців тому

I own both, started with the legend for about 1 year, the also go deus 2. I only runt deus 2 now. Its lighter and the performance is for sure nr 1. But for the price the legend cant betouched if someone has 500-700 dollar budget the legend is nobrainer.

@dannyburton2737 3 дні тому

So the manticore wasnt picking up bits of junk the legend was missing. Not really a bad thing

@DiggerDanMetalDetecting 3 дні тому

If the legend is missing pieces of lead which gives the same signals as buttons, then it will be missing small hammered coins and Romans. That's why the legend couldn't see that roman on the last signal.

@petertosh4748 2 місяці тому

Waterproof goes to the legend. Ask me how i know...

@LegendSwinger 7 місяців тому

Brilliant. I'd expect to see this difference for the extra £1200. The Manti is a brilliant bit of kit and I'd love one. But as a sole earner, two kids and another one on the way, I wouldn't buy one. Well, rather I would live long after 🤣 I have noticed that the legend sometimes struggles, especially on iron ridden ground, when it comes to separation. It's doable, but I now use M1, go very slow and pick out the targets I'd normally miss when swinging as usual in M2. But, on the other hand, the legend has found some tiny little targets, fairly deep, which has blown my mind several times. It's a strange one, but I can only boil it down to the £1800 price tag on the manti. It's overpriced, from my perspective. But.. if I won one or something, I'd be using it more than the legend. Cant wait for the Beast mode update. That will be interesting.

@hectordetectorist6919 7 місяців тому

I agree, it's strange as some days my legend seems to be finding super small stuff at depth then other days it seems deaf. I'm guessing that it's down to just not walking over the targets. Those detecting gods like to mess us about!

@LegendSwinger 7 місяців тому

@hectordetectorist6919 I agree. But I think EMF interference and ground conditions are the big issue. Which I hope will be resolved with the next update. It's a stability issue, but, I'm not an expert, just my thoughts. I'm still running 1.09 since reverting, but I am considering installing 1.11 again to test out on my latest permission. Found my first hammered yesterday, the signal was very quiet and easily missable. Solid 20, and about 7" deep in pasture that's never been ploughed. It was a very thin, broken Mary Groat. Chuffed I picked it up, but the signal was pants tbf

@wobblybob7029 3 місяці тому

false test when you use the manticore the legend is a fear distance away ,but when you use the legend the manticore is right there, first page of the legend user manual " Do not let another detector or an electromagnetic device come in close proximity (10m (30ft.)) to the device"