Yes, but a stupidly funny joke!

Well, you had to fucking jinx it.

^ Norm would have loved this reply

@@silversrayleigh1399 20 hours ago I was binging some of his best bits, and today I'm back again for a completely different reason. Utterly blown away by the news.

:/

Ya know?

and by god

Get this

ya know

I'm positive that norm, while on TV, has NEVER been given the "stretch it out" signal from a producer.

Which is ironic, since it's a logical fallacy that doesn't follow, it's called denying the antecedent.

@@jacobbellamy7640 you said it that audience must have been gay too

@@jacobbellamy7640 that's the entire joke

@@jacobbellamy7640 Congrats on understanding the joke lol

@@jacobbellamy7640 my lord! You’re getting your money’s worth out of that logic degree

Well sure as hell it wasn't his inviting the logician round for Chcken - But the audience *still* laughted ike drains at that. (You gotta suspect they didn't own a doghouse either).

we see the punchline coming from a week away but Norm lands it perfectly. i laughed out loud.

I thought the punchline was gonna be "I'm on my way to buy a doghouse" or "After standing around the bus stop for a while, I realized....I don't own a doghouse"

I doubt it lmao

I didn’t. I thought that he’d unable to give the example due to the smoker not owning a doghouse, then he’d do something with that.

That's a neat fact there, you know.

Anyone who goes to the University of Science talks that way.

Also "the guys goes" or "the guy says"

Yeah I know,so I says it’s still very funny to watch him do that you know. That’s all I’m saying.

But they're essential to the story.

XD

If you made an account just for this joke... I truly commend you, Professor.

Come by any day

@@barfeyman3622 No thanks Barfeyman, I don't trust your carving.. I know where that knife has been.

professor do you own a dog house?

'Interesting story, I got this recipe for uh- for uh- cornbread, you know, uh, you know cornbread?'

How is that difficult? Most cornbread recipes I've ever read are hillarious.

💯💯

I always thought he was over-rated. He ALWAYS did these meandering lame jokes which I could see the punchline from a mile away. I don't know why he was so celebrated but whatever. Different tastes.

@@magnificentbuzz the uh’s come off as him thinking but I’m almost 100% it’s really just a set up every single time

It's also subtly relevant to the theme of the joke, which is logic. The smoker noticed the pattern that, about the time when he gets bored/antsy and lights a cigarette while waiting, the bus shows up. But, like the doghouse, lighting his cigarette has no real relationship to whether or not the bus will show up (or whether or not he is gay, in the case of the doghouse). There is kind of a "moral of the story" here, which is that strictly logical conclusions are not always right or even reasonable.

@@CrizzyEyes No the point was that neither of those two relations were strictly logical. They were inductions (in the case of the doghouse) or straight up faulty coincidences (in the case of the cigarettes), not actual deductions.

I think he actually messed up that part of the joke. The bus-cigarette thing is supposed to tie in. The bus comes, and then Norm should be impressed with his friend's prediction and say, "Wow, are you a professor of logic?" Then the friend says, "No, what even is that?" Then ... As Norm told it, the bus-cigarette thing happens and then they just talk about Norm's neighbor, etc. Norm is still the best ever, though.

@@dre3951 I disagree. I think the cigarette and bus thing is indeed part of the joke. But Norm intentionally subverts the expectation of the bus and this logic theme tying in together. He does this again with his famous “porpoise” joke when he says he went to sea world and the audience expects him to say he saw his friend from school working there, but instead he says it’s just an attendant to waste more time. Anyone else can tell the same joke but the way Norm subverts expectation and drags the story is comedy gold imo

@@chill3282 the cigarette part is part of the joke and relevant because it's inductive logic, make a generalization from an observation.

I Have No Idea What I'm Doing no that’s part of his schtick - it’s intentional

A lot of work goes into making it look like he's half assing it.

Yeah but.... Isn't that part of the joke?

@@brogcooper25 No, it doesn't.

You know

And he wasn’t even Midwestern haha

Canadians are north midwesterners

Maybe he just was very bad at telling jokes. "So he said, I said..."

@@joetheplumber8884 Sure, but that's a style. It's like how Picasso painted people looking all crooked and with weird angles and colors, that would have gotten him kicked out of a figure drawing class.

Brilliant description of the man

"How can I make a shaggy joke out of a fallacy of denial of the antecedent?"

That's how everyone writes jokes.

@@listek981 Norm does it best imo

Just a question though. Do you own a dog house?

and sometimes he drops the punchline entirely

I don't get it

Is that a "Those who don't do teach" kind of joke or a Feynman's "Those who really know something can teach it simply"? :)

Down at the university of science.

Anecdotal fallacy.

The best description of Norm I've ever heard is Every other comedian talks about funny things and Norm talks about things in a funny way

holy shit how i this so accurate

Is this his joke though? It's exactly the same as the whippersnipper joke from buddy washisname and the other fellers

All of the great comedians are like that.

Not weird at all. I hear Norm's voice, and I'm already primed to start giggling.

He once made a rare out of character comment about saying "you know" and "uh" he said it made him seem stupider subtly so he could deliver the punchline better

Owen Wilson says "says wow" a lot? That's weird.

Wow, you know, I hadn't realized that.

@@zalyster Can’t believe it took 3 days

@@LeslieJayBoschPhoto you must be one of those gays

@FISHY LAMAR it’s been over 5 hours I don’t think he can

Don't get injected, you won't die

He took out the cancer with him, so it was more like a draw…

@@Rex-gu1bu He died from cancer, he has been battling it for years, stop peddling your beliefs of what people should do in terms of getting a vaccine, it is their choice.

@@Rex-gu1bu Are you... being serious?

lol I was expecting the bus to come halfway through the doghouse story.

E.g. I think

The cigarette part cements the punchline which is that strictly logical conclusions are often absurd. It's just as absurd to think that a bus will come the moment you light up a cigarette to think that you're gay or straight based on whether or not you own a doghouse.

@@CrizzyEyesexactly, thanks for eloquently spelling it out so I didn’t have to.

Pretty cool that his comedy has created this great memory of time with your dad, that's awesome!

You must have a talent at delivering then 👍🏼

Oh wow, you must a be a great story teller if you made this joke to be funny tbh

@@sergiodeus3865 Absolutely. I think 99.9% of us would totally bomb attempting to tell this joke.

Your Dad must own a dog house.

Norm comes from 1920

Nah he’s just Canadian

Ludwig Wittgenstein It was more of an comment.

We know you are one of them gays using 'logic'

@Carl Cruton wittgenstein was richer than rothschilds n donated it all

cool :)

thanks for this :)

yeah, this second layer to this joke is really wonderful, especially since he's playing an ignorant guy in this bit. according to wikipedia, he dropped out of university, but he enrolled in mathematics while he was there. so i'm sure this joke was very intentionally crafted

The inference would be correct if it was: If and only if P, then Q

Plato, not Testicles ( tes-tuh-cleeze ) disproved the full gonad theorem.

I says to the guy, I says

That's the joke.

eddielaur i cant stop hearing this now, thanks.

I came here to see this comment

lamarcus aldridge distant cousin lmao

Johnathan Jones Yup. How the HELL does he do it?

the shitty transitions, regretful punchline and the long ass joke is the reason I didn't laugh.

If you knew logic you'd get the joke, ironically enough.

@Tarun Singaria His style of comedy is like 50% shaggy dog stories. You either don't like or just don't understand that type of joke.

Vikram Oldham That’s the stick up your ass talking.

half?! More like ALL the fun! You know it's coming and there are smaller punchlines along the way!

Agreed. When it comes to Norm MacDonald, the journey is the destination.

Very much so @Dave T

Far more than half

I know all of his jokes and I still come back just to hear him telling them.

Hercules Brofister i think it did! Cause it was an instance of where intended logic fails („always when I light a cigarette the bus comes“ - bus doesn’t come) kind of anticipating the next/main false logic story.

Malte Regah yeah also it serves as a distraction from his first neighbor story so his punchline hits better

@@MRegah : right, norm prepares with the cig-illogic the punchline-illogic. From what I know, Norm built his shaggy jokes very meticulously...not a word superfluous

Malte Regah The point is that it was unnecessary but so funny. Proves the genius of Norm

the cigarette or Fag (UK) story gives Norm a way into a conversation with a stranger.

Because he’s all dried up and brown and hanging from a leaf or something? I don’t get it

No, Conan is a full fledged butterfly, but he was smart enough to take his gig to streaming now. Colbert, Kimmel, and Fallon are dropping in the networks with their high octane DNC political commentary. Conan is fine.

Why are there no ads on it

He is actually really boring

So right... I started laughing with tears streaming down my face when he said told the guy at the bus stop he met his neighbor today. My God, what a genius!

@@richardkaylor9679 is that sarcasm?

@@arpansamuel6745 it's not often I get asked that question

Ok that is funny😂

I love the way Norm breaks for a second when he refers to the University of Science for the second time. He was always right there with his hand on the wheel, even when he seemed three miles off course

Any University of Science alumni here? Go Beakers!

​@@vasyan123 Class of '90

There is a great University of the Sciences in Philly... devoted primarily to health sciences and trains doctors, researchers, nurses, organic chemist-types, etc. Part of it is the nation's oldest College of Pharmacy founded in the 1820s,

Ron Andy certainly liked that line

who's ron andy

I believe he is addressing Ron who wrote the comment and saying that Andy enjoyed that line

@@t4si0r I love Ron Andy. My favorite comedian.

@@t4si0r lmfao

A fine looking gentleman the destination isn’t worth the journey to me. Need a stronger punchline for a 5 minute wait.

the anticlimax is kind of part of it though it either gets you or it doesnt

Exactly. The moth joke is a prime example.

all of you shut the fuck up

Joe P is appreciate

@burteriksson Dad joke = a joke viewed as lame. They usually contain cheap puns or tired cliches, and mostly contain clean language. Room leveler = A joke which results in an explosion of laughter from the audience.

@burteriksson dads predominantly make cheesy jokes to their kids to annoy them, hence being called dad jokes. Dont be so politically correct, that's fascism.

@burteriksson Go fuck yourself with the political correctness bullshit.

@@ankstuhful as a dad, I genuinely find the jokes funny

@burteriksson ah shoot, not one of you gays raving on again

I think that's the point. The punchline is like an anti-punchline.

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Idk, that didn't seem like much of an anti punchline.

Well Norm was a comedian lol your sentence implied that he wasn't a comic but rather a writer. His muttering or words and structure was purely for the punchline. No where near a "anti punchline" like how Mrs.Dumbshit up there assumed

Would have been funnier if the story was shorter by the end of it all I was very underwhelmed

@@spedmonie416 everyone seems to disagree with you.

I LOVE that little part about the man he meets at the bus stop. Love how he brings us into this cutaway where we can see a bunch of people waiting for the bus and one eccentric guy who says he has a trick or two. What a LEGEND.

The more you explain, the funnier it gets

So you don't know Polo polo...

The audience probably did laugh but on tv laugh sounds are added by post production

So right on... I knew exactly where he was going, but there was STILL that 1/2 second pause before I laughed

That is an absolute hallmark of Norm.

There's also a surprise punchline that comes after the end of this clip. Something like: "And get this: then the guy asks me to have a chicken with him at his house."

they didnt catch on to that, are you slow?

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that. God bless em both.

i bet you would do better

Ya know ya know ya know ya know

Then homeland security comes

A lot of people back East talk like that

These jokes are well thought out and rehearsed day in, day out. To every detail , facial expression and so-called 'mistakes'.

@@Movie2Documentary No, I understand comics spend hours staring in mirrors getting their gesture perfectly right. It is almost like pantomime.

@@jamesboulger8705 that must really kill the joke then to the comic then i feel like

@@HessSR No, the payoff to all of the preparation is in the reaction of the listeners

@@maricastefan219 sure, but I feel like maybe you’d get tired of a joke while practicing, maybe even question if it’s actually funny.

The joke is number 1. He's a different breed. I appreciate the laughs Norm

Norm looks about 35 hear. Pretty sure he wasn't diagnosed with cancer till he was about 50.

This was before he was diagnosed with cancer.

@@emanuelmota7217 we realise that this was before his cancer (im not fully retarded), that does not make the statment any less true, maybe not true for this particular talk, or act or whatever, but he was still suffering for years and kept the jokes rolling.

@@jonathanrandom7837 Who's "we"? Are you speaking for knucklehead? Because his original comment clearly indicates that he thinks Norm had cancer while doing this performance on Conan. Your point is irrelevant.

so i says to him i says

i think its because he is an avid reader and he is wicked smart... he throws in so much comedy through his stories that its hard to keep up... just watch his 12 minute joke.

You never heard tell of a boot?

SW627 I’m Canadian. It’s not a Canadian thing, at least not where I’m from haha

@SW627 His dad was 55 years older than him, so he was basically raised by the generation before the one others his age were.

That is true, mr. Darker

What do you mean? Why?

@@Fralsii He's referring to a joke about Bill Cosby. ;)

No sir, he is a deeply closeted gay man

@@SweetComputing who?

huge loss to the world*

Wait. What? Norm died?!

@@17Scumdog Cancer. Was diagnosed 9-10 years ago. Kept it totally secrete. Look at his jokes in that time frame. He was telling people all the time.

Sad...really sad...

You knew him personally?

I had a similar thing with George Carlin, I found his stuff, watched it all, by the time I was all in on Carlin he died. Fucking sucks.

Sorry to be that guy, but I don't get the chicken bit... can you explain it please?

@@calebgodard4554 Its just a strange choice of words to invite someone over for dinner.

@@olliejones722 Thank you!

@@calebgodard4554its cut off in this clip but at the end the gay guy at the bus stop invited norm to have chicken with him. so i guess another subtle joke was norm hitting on the professor of logic with the invitation

That line had me ROLLING. (And still does). Something about “having a chicken” is so freaking hilarious. RIP Norm.

They never heard tell of it.

@@emanuelmota7217 lol!

Logic? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?

Not everyone has attended the University of Science.

So explain to the folks at Norm's joke what logic is...

"Has cats" is often shorthand for feminist/lesbian these days.

Fuck yes. The very nature of comedy. Obscured reality

Yes! Andy's laugh was so real! That's what Norm did this for...he loved making people laugh. There's such a joy in being able to do that.

"Come have a chicken" The way he said it made Andy crack up completely.

I think that's not actually Andy, but Emmet.

You do realise it's a racist joke right

@@flyingfrogofdeath9616 Not really. Only if you want it to be

That made me laugh way more than the joke

@@claida339 No it didn't

"Just a guess, Mr Fritzl..."

He really was a genius it’s a huge blow

Rest in power. ❤

Everything living dies.

Are we watching the same the guy

@@ifyagotajaburadumsheep1752 I never thought he was funny, actually.

Was

one of a kind. you cant really trace his influences cuz he's so original

His delivery was genius, there isn’t a comedian Alive who compares

I think there is some similarity with Kids in the Hall... it's sort of a Canadian style I guess

I recently noticed that Norm's style is actually more alike British-style comedy than American, which has more to do with quick wit and dry humour. A dream matchup would have been Bob Mortimer and Norm.

Super Dave is dead??? Damn, this day keeps getting worse.

And cracking beers with Mitch... or so the germans would have us believe.

And Sean Lock, I hope. Because in heaven American and Brit comics actually get each others' jokes.

Definitely chillin with Farley

Unfortunately we can’t lose anymore comedians like Patrice and Norm that aren’t afraid to speak their mind…they’re a dying breed and we need them more now than ever…I would absolutely love to hear Patrice’s take on certain things these days

Yep ;) I've put the JRE on pause and came here because haven't heard this joke in fe months :) Next stop is the dirty uncle Johnny joke lol

@@maciek9947 heard it before and still had to watch it again

Yep

I am.

Me too but I just realised from googling professor of logic norm MacDonald ripped this joke off of Another comedian.. find it.. it's a goldfish instead of a dog 8 years ago.. to be honest I found Bert's version the funniest

Oh I don’t know… I think I serve a youthful porpoise

@@IncredibleDisplay you guys haven't heard of dirty Johnny??

@@zoulzopan don't ruin the punch . It's still lingering for some. Genius

The moth is absolutely classic.

@@zoulzopan and what about that New York taxi driver's riddle

Mr.Meanor you would be drunk, sir, not dead, though i can see how that would confuse a light weight

zargmatt Mm, yeah, on my count there were only 14. I think it seemed like there'd be way more bc he loaded up 11 of those RIGHT at the start, and if you kept going at that rate, you'd either be dead or COVERED in vomit

@@zargmatt you must be very cool

How do, ya know?

I had a professor (at the University of Science) that was like this with the word, "basically". Granted he was from Russia and English wasn't his first language, but people already came up with a drinking game for it and said you'd probably die after a full lecture.

Me, too. Count Dankula brought me here.

Same. R.I.P Norm MacDonald.

For those who don't get it: If professor 1 knew he wasn't going to have a beer, the answer to the bartender's question would have been "no - not all of us". But he wants a beer, only, he doesn't know what the rest will have, so the full answer is yet unknown. Same goes for professor 2, and seeing as they have the same skills and logic, he knows that the answer of professor 1 was not "no", and must therefore be a "Yes for me, but let's hear what the other ones will have". Professor 2 also wants a beer. The exact same thing goes for professor 3. Now, professor 4, finally, concludes that as nobody has yet said no, they all must intend for a yes for their own sake. Professor 4 also wants a beer, and can finally answer yes, all of us.

Sounds like a non-doghouse-having kind of joke.

zee339 Just remember, that doesn't work if you keep a naked teenage boy chained up in there.

@@marccolten9801 bahahahahaha

I bought myself a trash can to remind myself that I am a trash can

Marc Colten lol

Seems logical

sisbrawny It was Andy Richter. Also, nice joke... sorry I ruined it, but I was already typing. Lol

It's ok. If you trace your mouse over the progress bar, you can watch Norm get whiplash.

@ Isaac Bernath you still can, you just need to be broke enough to ride the bus, yet happy enough inside to have some social skills.

@@AVERYhornyMrDinosaur *to bother having some social skills when you're that broke 😂

Can't anymore that's for sure

Also back in the day when you could strike up a cigarette without brown shirts beating you with batons as they tax you to death.

@@AVERYhornyMrDinosaur funny thing. I'm not broke enough to need it but still enjoy it.. Mostly when I travel. and luckily I have the social skills to do it.. But living in NYC gives you a whole different experience 🙊😂

Yes, part if Norm's style was that the punchline sometimes was obvious to everyone with half a minute left of the joke - but him still pushing on as if it wasn't.

Ht No problem

@@JeansWebbTv khggfdc

winlip2 Jim Norton's Chip is a close second.

THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH NORM MACDONALD IS THAT HE'S CANADIAN.

Uhm, yes it is. He's not saying the joke is bad, but that the style of joke is the "bad joke" style. Which it is. It's intentionally corny humor.

I completely understand you! But! Isn't that just the average person?

Well, if McDonald's goal had been to point out the fallibility of logic (I believe it isn't), then he's doing a rather poor job of it here. Firstly, the professor of logic in MacDonald's story was not inferring the sexual orientation of MacDonald from the fact that MacDonald owns a doghouse. After every question from the professor, MacDonald answered in the affirmative. Thus, the professor received new information after every inferential step in his reasoning. This means the professor was only inferring from the fact that MacDonald owned a doghouse to the fact that he owned a dog, from the fact that he owned a dog to the fact that he has a family, and so on. These are discrete inferential steps, all of which are much more plausible than the ridiculous inference from ownership of a doghouse to sexual orientation. Secondly, these are all cases of inductive inferences, not deductive ones. Here's the difference: In an inductive inference from A to B, that inference is justified by the accumulated experience of cases where A is true tending to be cases where B is true. If your previous experience tells you that people who own doghouses tend to own dogs, that gives you reason to believe of someone you know owns a doghouse that she owns a dog. If it turns out she doesn't, that only means that your previous experience was not a good guide to this particular situation. In fact, it is in the nature of induction that this will sometimes be the case: After all, drawing inductive inferences essentially means estimating something unknown based on what is known. Logic tells us that inductive inferences are fallible, any concrete example of a failed inductive inference merely confirms what logic tells us. Deductive inferences, on the other hand, are the ones found e.g. in the syllogisms MacDonald refers to. Generally, logic concerns itself with deductive inferences, induction and abduction are better left to epistemology and the philosophy of science. Therefore we say of a good case of deductive inference that it is a logically valid inference. For an inference from A to B to be logically valid, it must be the case that A being true and B being false leads to a logical contradiction. It is not a logical contradiction for someone to own a doghouse and not own a dog. (The dog might be dead.) Thus, the argument "A owns a doghouse, therefore A owns a dog" is not logically valid. If MacDonald had presented a logically valid deductive inference from a true premise to a false conclusion, he would have made a devastating argument not just for the fallibility of logic but for logic in its current form being fundamentally misguided. He has not. I think most every logician would agree that logic is fallible, but in a relatively straightforward sense: The study of logic is done by humans. Human beings are, alas, fallible. The great logician Gottlob Frege himself managed to overlook Russell's paradox, a paradox rendering large swathes of his work false. Presumably, logicians will continue to make mistakes in the future, making logic fallible. I suspect you wanted to say that MacDonald has shown logic to be fallible in a much more dramatic sense. I hope I have helped show you this is not the case.