Olympian Jason Brown Breaks Down Figure Skating's Six Jumps

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6 років тому

Figure skater Jason Brown demonstrates and explains the differences between the six jumps in every skater’s arsenal. Photo: Adam Falk/The Wall Street Journal
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@user-nx8yu4lw1i
@user-nx8yu4lw1i 4 роки тому
Jason: "No one has ever yet competed with a quad axel" Yuzu in the corner: **sweats profusely**
@contorgonflame452
@contorgonflame452 4 роки тому
It's coming!! Waiting for Worlds
@qiying6869
@qiying6869 4 роки тому
@@contorgonflame452 sadly worlds cancelled :(
@contorgonflame452
@contorgonflame452 4 роки тому
@@qiying6869 Yeahhhh everyone's heartbroken about it >.< But it's also ultimately for the good of the skaters' health so I'm just hoping covid-19 blows over/gets under control before the 2020-2021 season!!
@qiying6869
@qiying6869 4 роки тому
@@contorgonflame452 yesss 😣stay safe ❤
@MorganleFayable
@MorganleFayable 3 роки тому
Trusova: just wait and see my friend
@iomoon3608
@iomoon3608 6 років тому
"You always land on right leg" *Grumpy clockwise skater here*
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 6 років тому
You're in the same company as Todd Eldredge and Rudy Galindo.
@tarableday
@tarableday 6 років тому
iomoon lefty problems
@stan4703
@stan4703 6 років тому
Same
@pantherhusky
@pantherhusky 5 років тому
Same
@krissy7342
@krissy7342 5 років тому
iomoon grumpy Tonya Harding there.. *paid hitman to shatter Kerrigan’s LANDING (right) knee* 🚫Harding= lower than the pipes under the frozen ice rink! 🚫 Tonya HARD-ON for vindictively! 😳☠️
@marycarla6245
@marycarla6245 6 років тому
This was one of the better explanations I've seen. I can always tell an axel and a toe loop but the others are harder to distinguish when they go so fast. I guess I'll leave it to Johnny and Tara to tell me what's what. :)
@isaiahbaggett5014
@isaiahbaggett5014 5 років тому
Lutz: usually happens at certain spots on the ice called the "lutz corners" (upper left/bottom right of rink from judge's perspective ......or "10:00" & "4:00" - position times on circular clock); also, skaters "lean" to the left going backwards for the entrance, yet land" leaning" to the right. hope this helps.
@moonlight_oats
@moonlight_oats 4 роки тому
I feel like the flip and salchow start to blend together because they both start on a left forward outside edge usually
@laurenlesimple241
@laurenlesimple241 4 роки тому
@@moonlight_oats for a flip you jump from your toe pick. for a salchow you jump from an edge.
@ameswho9548
@ameswho9548 2 роки тому
I agree. I don't skate but love watching. I don't know HOW the announcers can tell some jumps from another no matter how many times I watch these videos. It's so amazing. I can barely follow the puck in hockey so I guess it's just me
@BirdsAndWhales
@BirdsAndWhales Рік тому
I can spot axel, salchow, and loop easily but once the toe pick gets involved it’s all just goes so fast and idk what’s happening haha
@LennonTheBunny
@LennonTheBunny 6 років тому
Someone please get this guy some cough drops...
@pegwiththeegg3461
@pegwiththeegg3461 3 роки тому
I watched one of your videos
@silversunset
@silversunset 3 роки тому
Yeah especially the end with all those voice cracks...
@dumdumb8852
@dumdumb8852 3 роки тому
lennon omg what r u doing here
@selinanachtmann2705
@selinanachtmann2705 3 роки тому
its my favorite bunny youtuber commenting on a video of my favorite sport. omg i love lennon!!!!
@ben94_
@ben94_ 6 років тому
this was helpful hope his cold gets better soon
@ihavehairylegs7619
@ihavehairylegs7619 4 роки тому
Ben I hope he’s doing well now, after two years
@jojososomojo
@jojososomojo 3 роки тому
This is that nicer, kinder side of UKposts I like to see
@headphonic8
@headphonic8 3 роки тому
@@jojososomojo it’s called sarcasm
@orborb2644
@orborb2644 6 років тому
another way to recognise the jumps is by their entry. before performing a salchow (edge), skaters usually turn three times and have a knock-kneed position at take-off. for a loop (edge), the skater would commonly turn once and take off with their legs crossed. for a lutz (toe), the skater skates in a straight line backwards before driving their toe-pick in. that distinguishes it from a flip (toe), where the skater would use a three-turn immediately before picking, meaning they turn on one foot. for the toe loop (...toe), the skater rotates in the direction of the toe-pick, making them 'open' to the rotation. there's nothing more really to be said for the axel lol
@kasvinimuniandy4178
@kasvinimuniandy4178 6 років тому
aaahh.. Thank you!! I like how you explained the difference between a Lutz entry and a Flip entry. I see.. Thank you for also stating which of the jumps are edge jumps and which are flip. For some reason, I've had the impression that flip jumps are edge jumps. I see. I think I can tell single jumps apart now. I just have difficulty identifying the jumps done in combination.
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 5 років тому
That's really helpful. I can normally recognise a lutz exactly as you say, but I hadn't cottoned on to the other jump entries. Thanks.
@orborb2644
@orborb2644 5 років тому
@@kasvinimuniandy4178 my reply may be months late (whoops) but this is just in case anyone else wants to know how to identify combo jumps! if the skater does a toe jump immediately after the first jump, it's a toe loop (the most common). if the skater takes off from the landing foot with no toe pick and little to no hesitation, its a loop. if the skater does a hop and then a toe jump, it's an euler-flip. if the skater does a hop and then an edge jump, it's an euler-salchow. the hop is officially called an euler now, but in the past it was also referred to as a half-loop, or a loop (despite not being... an actual loop)
@jfluter
@jfluter 4 роки тому
The loop, I think also easier to identify as it’s the only jump that literally takes off and lands on the same foot..
@embeth446
@embeth446 3 роки тому
This was super helpful, thanks.
@eleonora1
@eleonora1 6 років тому
when yuzu announced he was coming for that 4A
@cristaljanemalit2489
@cristaljanemalit2489 5 років тому
Sonora Spring 😍😍😍
@raeunlee3761
@raeunlee3761 5 років тому
I hope he doesn't injure himself again 😭😭
@JackAShepherd
@JackAShepherd 5 років тому
Sonora That 4T-3A he debuted this year is *bananas*... What would we have done if he’d retired???
@orange_leaf4913
@orange_leaf4913 4 роки тому
Where? I thought he didn’t have social media? Is it in an interview? If so link pls c=
@janzibunz8689
@janzibunz8689 4 роки тому
He's actually done it. Just hasn't landed it. He fell cause he didn't get enough height on the jump. During practice if course
@nothingjustaninchident
@nothingjustaninchident 4 роки тому
0:27 Salchow 0:47 Toe Loop 1:10 Loop 1:23 Flip 1:43 Lutz 2:10 Axel
@bluedasher74
@bluedasher74 6 років тому
This was a really good explanation, especially seeing it in slow motion. HOWEVER, it's kinda hard to see which jump is which during a routine (except for the obvious axel).
@DeepSeas..
@DeepSeas.. 6 років тому
bluedasher74 If the jumps aren’t fairly easy to distinguish, the skater likely has bad technique. If you watch someone like Yuna Kim the jumps are distinct, even to the untrained eye.
@glurpbot8048
@glurpbot8048 5 років тому
One main way to differentiate between the jumps are the entry, the edges they take off from and whether the toepick is used for the jump. Although in most competitions shown on tv they'll display the scoring and program in the top left so you could see which move is up next.
@victoria9694
@victoria9694 5 років тому
People saying the jumps look the same scares me
@martynaanna2336
@martynaanna2336 4 роки тому
ARMY luvs Bo Peep they do tho
@gabriellaborges1680
@gabriellaborges1680 4 роки тому
Lol they all do except for triple axel
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 3 роки тому
Seriously, I wonder why people are saying that they still don't see the difference? I'm literally only looking this up because of an anime reference, never really cared enough to watch ice skating stuff though I thought it was fascinating/pretty enough, so I'm pretty much completely untrained and I can tell the difference because of this video. (Well, I also took notes...) Sure, if you're actually watching a live performance I'm sure it'll be difficult at first, but that's like, just because you know the notes cdefgab and where they lie on the staff logistically doesn't mean you can name off each line at random just by looking at some sheet music; it takes practice to name each jump as you see it. So it's not that "you can't tell the difference" it's that "even though I have this resource available, I don't care enough to actually learn by practicing recognizing these things." At least the topic is mundane enough, but don't say, "I can't," say it like it is, say, "I don't care enough to learn," because that's perfectly acceptable, too. No one's forcing you to be that invested.
@Itsthebowman
@Itsthebowman 3 роки тому
They do
@jojososomojo
@jojososomojo 3 роки тому
@@HeritageDrPepper this is an A-tier comment, thank you for that clarification. practice makes perfect! (well, perfect according to whoever's standards)
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 5 років тому
I've never been on the ice, but my wife got me watching competitive ice skating about 10 years ago. Jason is one of our favourite skaters. He's always looks like he's having a great time, and his enthusiasm is infectious. He's a great skater and a wonderful ambassador for the sport. However, it's taken me those ten years to recognise the jumps. I can get an axel 100% of the time, lutz and toe loop about 80% of the time, loop about 40% of the time, but flips and salchows only about 20% of the time. It's often more difficult with men skaters, because they tend to wear black trousers which makes it close to impossible to tell the left from the right leg when you're watching the action on TV.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 5 років тому
Here's the entries (take-off edges) for the different jumps in order of difficulty for right-footed skaters: Toe loop: Right Backward Outside edge (RBO), toe-pick assisted Salchow: Left Backward Inside edge (LBI) Loop: Right Backward Outside edge (RBO) Flip: Left Backward Inside edge (LBI), toe-pick assisted Lutz: Left Backward Outside edge (LBO), toe-pick assisted Axel: Left Forward Outside edge (LFO)
@paolocastellano4848
@paolocastellano4848 6 років тому
Jason's lutz definitely rocks to an inside edge essentially making it a flutz.... By his own description, he is missing out on tje additional torque by not staying on the outside edge through when the left foot leaves the ice.
@zeel5689
@zeel5689 6 років тому
I don't see it as a flutz -- if anyone has that its Ms. Medvedeva. lol. But regardless I think they are both fabulous!
@pantherhusky
@pantherhusky 5 років тому
It is more of a flat edge than an inside edge, some skaters (including me😭) go to a flat edge, it is only usually a huge problem when it is a definite inside. Also, flip is described on one figure skating video" the flip jump is like the Lutz except on a more inside flat edge". It is technically a Flutz but more on the mild version of it compared to a definite inside. I'm not looking for hate here, just saying what I saw
@jameskevinavena2569
@jameskevinavena2569 5 років тому
ZEE L it's a flutz because before he jumped, his left foot shifted from a deep outside edge to a flat edge. Evgenia's lutz is more like a floopz(wrong edge + loop). Because she does not use the toe pick to vault herself up in the air instead she uses a full blade. And also her lutz are extermely prerotated and have a forward entry. In conclusion, his lutz is a lutz even though it's flawed while Evgenia is not a lutz but a loop-ish jump. No hate. ❤️❤️❤️
@JackAShepherd
@JackAShepherd 5 років тому
Paolo Castellano #TeamOrser is on it
@JackAShepherd
@JackAShepherd 5 років тому
ZEE L Zhenya’s Flutz is certainly one of the most pronounced :-o Kaetlyn (who, assuming she comes back, is my favorite current Lady) has a pretty obvious Flutz too
@youdeservetobehappynow7584
@youdeservetobehappynow7584 6 років тому
What I really love about him is he enjoys skating and feels like dancing to every song, and hes just having fun but very wonderful
@nesramirez9592
@nesramirez9592 5 років тому
I feel like all the views on this video are me lol. *_The secret to identifying jumps is paying attention to the entrance, takeoff direction and the feet. Soon, your brain will be able to easily distinguish these jumps._* Here everyone, free replay button: 0:00 And jump times(with tips!) Salchow: 0:27 *What’s helped me distinguish this one is that the skater spins, gaining speed, before taking off, the left foot lifting into the spin a split second after the right initiated the takeoff. Skater takes off on left foot and lands with right.* ToeLoop: 0:46 *PICK JUMP* *The skater starts the takeoff gliding backwards, if you look closely enough, the left foot crosses the right and kicks the floor, launching the right off, the left lifting seemingly at the same time.* Loop: 1:09 *Smoothest transitions EVER! The skater also starts this takeoff backwards, the right foot lifting a second after the left (like the salchow).* *THE BEST WAY TO DISTINGUISH THE SALCHOW AND LOOP IS THAT THE SKATER IS SPINNING BEFORE TAKING OFF IN THE SALCHOW AND GLIDING BACKWARDS BEFORE TAKING OFF IN THE LOOP* Flip: 1:24 *PICK JUMP* *The skater spins one time before taking off. Not much to say here except watching the edge (which can be extremely difficult during a fast and active program). The skater should be on the LEFT BACK INSIDE EDGE* Lutz: 1:44 *PICK JUMP* *Like he said, almost exactly like the flip, except you need to watch the edge again. The skater should be on the LEFT BACK OUTSIDE EDGE* Axel: 2:09 *The easiest to recognize! The Axel has the skater takeoff completely forward!* *_I HOPE THIS HELPED!_*
@annaneedshelp7729
@annaneedshelp7729 4 роки тому
NessahWey thank you sm for this b!
@akudumb3021
@akudumb3021 4 роки тому
As for the sal, the right foor lifts you into the spim😊 of course If You’re going counter clockwise
@icantthinkofagoodname1838
@icantthinkofagoodname1838 6 років тому
The best video on this I have found so far. Thanks Jason!
@michaelb2685
@michaelb2685 2 роки тому
Wow…I used this video to learn how to spot the jumps and it worked, and now I’m about to watch you soon take the ice in the short program at the 2022 Winter Olympics. Thanks and Good Luck!!
@axel-ky9jc
@axel-ky9jc 5 років тому
Trying to work on doubles on the floor during summer and this explanation helps a lot!
@s.f.694
@s.f.694 6 років тому
His technique is so clean and nice to watch! Great video
@caitiedidit
@caitiedidit 6 років тому
This is a good explanation of the differences, as good as I’ve ever seen in a brief video, but the jumps are mainly recognizable to audiences from their entrances so those should have been included.
@adonnafrometa6420
@adonnafrometa6420 6 років тому
Thank you for the perfect explinatio6, none can explain better6than you!. and I LOVE your Style!
@kasvinimuniandy4178
@kasvinimuniandy4178 6 років тому
WOW!! Thank you Jason and WSJ!!! This was a great video. I have been watching this sport since 2 weeks prior to the PyeongChang Games. Thanks to the plethora of videos online, especially such clear ones like this, I can now identify all the jumps. :D :D Although when viewed in real time, it is difficult to differentiate the lutz and flip due to camera angles and quick take-offs. :D :D My latest obsession is the loop because I can finally identify it !! hehehe... Such an interesting jump because there is.. not a clear take off point? sort of.. like.. there's no pick to launch it. :D :D So in love with this sport even though I can't skate at all, hahaha.
@huajie666liu8
@huajie666liu8 6 років тому
I think maybe the lutz should be marked !. Because it sensible flat.I need more angles to verify. Thanks for the explanation, Jason.
@walover165
@walover165 6 років тому
He used to have a pretty bad "e" Lutz as a Junior, but he's worked his tail off to get it to this. Still, agree there are US men with better Lutzes.
@v1c20tor
@v1c20tor 6 років тому
And this axel has excessive pre rotation
@huajie666liu8
@huajie666liu8 6 років тому
mish098aimer ho come. Evgenia has one of her hands over the head.
@huajie666liu8
@huajie666liu8 6 років тому
mish098aimer I agree. I mean her Lutz edge has problem. But the judge still gives her positive GOE for her raising the hand over head. Some think it is not fair, some think it difficult to do that. Hard to say. Judges have the final words.
@qiqisongs
@qiqisongs 6 років тому
huajie666 liu The tano only gives her +0.5 GOE. If you take into account her low jump height, muscled jump, wrong edge etc, her flutz should never get positive GOE. It's like +0.5 +(-3)= -2.5 (negative GOE).
@tovetisell
@tovetisell 5 років тому
Amazingly smooth and nice jumps!!!!
@sbloom1498
@sbloom1498 6 років тому
Jason you little sunshine I love you please take care of yourself
@mattm7798
@mattm7798 3 роки тому
This is the BEST explanation of this because they go slow enough and clear enough to show the nuances. Looking forward to next January!
@jackroberts2704
@jackroberts2704 2 роки тому
Except watching it in real time won't help lol
@Jewelkitten38
@Jewelkitten38 6 років тому
Argh!! But they all look the same, to the untrained eye??!! :/
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 6 років тому
Here's the different jumps in order of difficulty for right-footed skaters: Toe loop: Right Backward Outside edge (RBO), toe-pick assisted Salchow: Left Backward Inside edge (LBI) Loop: Right Backward Outside edge (RBO) Flip: Left Backward Inside edge (LBI), toe-pick assisted Lutz: Left Backward Outside edge (LBO), toe-pick assisted Axel: Left Forward Outside edge (LFO)
@Jewelkitten38
@Jewelkitten38 6 років тому
Thanks so much, RaymondHng- and I take it you are describing how these jumps take off and not how they land with this list??
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 6 років тому
Yes. The landing for right-footed skaters is always Right Back Outside edge (RBO) for all jumps.
@Jewelkitten38
@Jewelkitten38 6 років тому
Seriously, thank you SO much. You have NO idea just how much I need this skating education!!
@lumiluck9673
@lumiluck9673 6 років тому
I would argue a different order for that difficulty depending on how many rotations you're talking about, but I appreciate how well you laid out that info. Most people don't know the edges anymore, they either just do them, or just smile and nod and panic inside because they all look the same to them XD (As a skater, that's what I see at least)
@user-fe2xz6dc2m
@user-fe2xz6dc2m 5 років тому
This video is soooo helpful, would definitely help me with double jumps
@siunekonno5814
@siunekonno5814 4 роки тому
An easy way to tell from the lutz, flip, salchow, loop is the entrance. With flips, since it takes of on an inside edge, skaters usually enter through a three turn since it naturally sets up a inside edge. With lutz, skaters usually just glide backwards for a moment lol. Salchow has a sweeping motion before take off. Loop has crossed legs before take off.
@alvinachan3321
@alvinachan3321 6 років тому
Now I get much clearer. Thank you very much.
@ArcticFalcon
@ArcticFalcon 6 років тому
From the video, this is my conclusion *Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a non-professional. I just summarize what I saw in the video* Salchow - Take off on the inside edge of your non-dominant leg. Free leg helps you prepare to be in the air. Land on your dominant leg's outside edge. Toeloop - Take off on the inside edge of your non-dominant leg. Dominant leg's toepick sends you up in the air. Land on your dominant leg's outside edge. Loop - Take off on the outside edge of your dominant leg completely backward and land on the outside edge of your dominant leg Flip - Take off on the inside edge of your non-dominant leg. Your dominant leg (Pick jump) send you up in the air. You stand on the inside of your non-dominant leg until you leave the ice. Land on the outside of your dominant leg Lutz - Take off on the outside edge of your non-dominant leg. Your dominant leg sends you up in the air by the pick jump. The outside edge of your non-dominant leg goes against the way you want to rotate. Land on the outside edge of your dominant leg Axel - Take off completely forward on the outside edge of your non-dominant leg and land backward on the outside edge of your dominant leg
@viktorkurious3340
@viktorkurious3340 6 років тому
Sone2539 for the toe loop you pick with you non dominant foot and you take off from your dominant foot and land on the outside edge of you dominant foot
@ArcticFalcon
@ArcticFalcon 6 років тому
Viktor Kurious Thank you
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 6 років тому
It's a bit wordy. Here's the shorter description of different jumps in order of difficulty for right-footed skaters: Toe loop: Right Backward Outside edge (RBO), toe-pick assisted Salchow: Left Backward Inside edge (LBI) Loop: Right Backward Outside edge (RBO) Flip: Left Backward Inside edge (LBI), toe-pick assisted Lutz: Left Backward Outside edge (LBO), toe-pick assisted Axel: Left Forward Outside edge (LFO)
@ArcticFalcon
@ArcticFalcon 6 років тому
Thanks a lot!
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 6 років тому
See these jump simulation rotation practice exercises on a floor. Observe which foot is used on take off (edge jump) and which is used to dig into the floor (toe pick-assisted jump). The video can be slowed down. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/iKWgk4hkarCSmZ8.htmlm4s
@libbycampbell879
@libbycampbell879 3 роки тому
Great video. Thank you Can you do some of the other jumps too? 1/2 lutz, 1/2 loop, etc.?
@allielee
@allielee 6 років тому
YAY thanks! i love how thuis is edited
@melonlemon782
@melonlemon782 4 роки тому
I got the complete understanding about the jumps in this video.. finally!
@ICYPROFITS
@ICYPROFITS 3 роки тому
Searched for inline skating jumps. Found this. Left impressed.
@pomarekaire1344
@pomarekaire1344 5 років тому
I love how figure skaters say the Lutz takes off from the outside edge and yet when they actually do it, they don't...
@christyhap
@christyhap 4 роки тому
OH YES
@mideygar3766
@mideygar3766 3 роки тому
My man spitting facts
@Echoxxx
@Echoxxx 6 років тому
Awesome! Feel better soon, Jason!
@jackroberts2704
@jackroberts2704 2 роки тому
I'm gonna forget these in a few minutes but I appreciate the effort!
@emmabloom1793
@emmabloom1793 6 років тому
Today I went skating after a 4 year break. I used to be able to do a walz jump and pretty much everything that is not a jump. I was kinda sad that I couldn't do much anymore. I really missed that feeling while doing spins. I couldn't even do an usual spin anymore😂
@marinamorton8458
@marinamorton8458 5 років тому
Thanks this is really helpful
@joshuastarwalker
@joshuastarwalker 4 роки тому
Great information although I am still being so confused, but I guess I will get it soon by watching more and more. Thanks for the video!
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 3 роки тому
This video should be better at explaining. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gJuUdaN-eqGb1XU.html
@michaelb2685
@michaelb2685 2 роки тому
This is the video I needed. I gave up knowing which jump was which at an early age. I only knew an axel. I was an avid roller skater growing up and I use to do a (by your video) a flip jump on them and wanted to try the others. I just never knew how or what made them different and we didn’t have UKposts back then and the books and drawings never made sense. This video is a tremendous help. Hmmm…I wonder if still can learn the other jumps on roller skates, Lutz, Salchow, Toe loop, and loop. I could never see the difference of the Toe loop and Flip. Now I get it. Thanks
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 8 місяців тому
Each jump takes off differently. Toe loop jump: Right Back Outside edge with toe-pick assist Salchow jump: Left Back Inside edge Loop jump: Right Back Outside edge Flip jump: Left Back Inside edge with toe-pick assist Lutz jump: Left Back Outside edge with toe-pick assist Axel jump: Left Forward Outside edge
@michaelb2685
@michaelb2685 8 місяців тому
@@RaymondHng I found the Lutz the hardest to tell at times. You really have to pay attention to the edge change on that one. Thanks.
@nono-fo5ls
@nono-fo5ls 6 років тому
Best explanation i've seen
@elizabethczaykowska8271
@elizabethczaykowska8271 6 років тому
As common it is to land on a right back outside edge (usually if you're right-handed), there are also skaters who rotate the opposite way (left handed/ambidextrous and even some right-handed people) and will land on their left back outside edge.
@mayahany6021
@mayahany6021 6 років тому
The flip is my favorite 😀
@jameskevinavena2569
@jameskevinavena2569 6 років тому
Maya Hany mine is the loop. :)
@seanyu5368
@seanyu5368 6 років тому
Mine is is the loop, but the flip comes close behind
@sonnyca
@sonnyca 6 років тому
Best video that explains the difference.... for those who are confused, don’t fret; it takes a while to figure it out. Watch it over and over and take notes like I did. Salchow, loop and axel all take off on one foot with needing the toe lift from the other foot. Axel has a forward approach unlike the others.
@ChristianLehrer
@ChristianLehrer 9 місяців тому
Thank you Jason!
@Herby393
@Herby393 3 роки тому
im working on double axels and triple salchow but for salchow i keep doing a bit over rotated double salchow and backspin the way out
@vuxdinh
@vuxdinh 4 роки тому
Axel is obviously easiest to identity as it has forward entrance. Lutz typically has the sliding backwards entrance without turn. Other jumps have a few turns. Salchow has upside down V-shape legs while Toe/Loop has X-shape (crossed legs) legs entrance. Flip and Lutz are difficult to identify without watching slow-motion to see the edge. Also, he did a flutz (Lutz with inside edge take-off like a Flip) in the video as he entranced with outside edge but at the time of jumping it was inside edge already or at best unclear edge.
@L3afo
@L3afo 4 роки тому
Pro skater commentary: *yea thats a axel and thats a toe loop-* Me: *WOW HE FLEW!*
@YohnathanYvl
@YohnathanYvl Рік тому
Love your voice. 😍 Amazing jumps, btw, you’re incredible.
@sirihammond4748
@sirihammond4748 6 років тому
By the way, typically you take off on the opposite leg and rotate the other direction if you are left-handed.
@ArcticFalcon
@ArcticFalcon 6 років тому
I'm right-handed, so I take off on my left leg and rotate counterclockwise, right?
@siribaimusic
@siribaimusic 6 років тому
Sone2539 you probably would rotate counterclockwise but the leg you take off on depends on the jump.
@ArcticFalcon
@ArcticFalcon 6 років тому
I get it now. Thanks :D
@stan4703
@stan4703 6 років тому
Yup ! I’m left handed + I’m a figure skater and I rotate and jump clockwoze
@celineelena4688
@celineelena4688 5 років тому
I am right-handed and I skate clockwise😂
@wits3392
@wits3392 9 місяців тому
Very good 😍😍 Is it possible to learn this jump as an adult? Thank you
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 3 роки тому
Sooo I took notes. Maybe it'll help to review both for all the people who still are having a hard time. But I'd also like to say, it's not that you can't, it's that you're not so invested that you desire to learn, which is fine. But it's like this, just because you know the notes (Sheet Music) cdefgab and where they lie on the staff logistically doesn't mean you can name off each line at random just by looking at some sheet music; likewise it takes practice to name each jump as you see it. Anyway, here are my notes. Hope it helps! *Tip:* Try really picturing each jump as you read these. *Landing (Same for all):* Right Back Outside Edge *_Salchow (Sow)_* *Takeoff:* Left Back Inside Edge *Key Component:* Right leg helps lift up, entering into about a 45 degree angle before flattening/crossing into the twist *_Toeloop_* *Takeoff:* Left Foot Toe Pick Vault *Key Component:* Standing leg is on Right Outside Edge *_Loop_* *Takeoff:* Right foot, center (not pick) *Key Component:* Right foot starts crossed behind left foot; simple crouch jump *_Flip_* *Takeoff:* Right Foot Toe Pick Vault *Key Component:* Standing leg is on the Left, Back, *Inside* Edge *_Lutz_* *Takeoff:* Pick Jump-Right foot *Key Component:* Standing leg is on the Left, Back, *Outside* Edge *Trick:* This goes against the direction you want to rotate but helps with power and torque when done right *_Axel_* *Takeoff:* Forward (only jump) *Key Component:* One leg standing, back/free leg swings from behind to give momentum to enter the twist but still rests behind the front ankle *Trick:* Adds another half rotation
@henrysjourney2325
@henrysjourney2325 2 роки тому
OMG…I admire ALL athletes that work so hard in whatever sport they do… I can ice skate a LITTLE…can’t do jumps or turns or spins… can only just skate… They have to Learn and remember so much along with all the hours of training and staying in shape…they have to be super strong mentally… To be able to balance training physical and mental…have ME time and time with families and friends and just having fun and being able to relax… They have such awesome determination and discipline…
@lmiones
@lmiones 5 років тому
Thank you Jason! For the Sal: if I put some weight on the R-foot, now gliding (not free), it becomes a Toe J ... does it? (Is there a "hallo" I'm seeing, slow-motion, from the R-foot?)
@rebeccacramer5911
@rebeccacramer5911 6 років тому
Also remember a few skaters rotate the opposite direction and therefore the landing and takeoff legs are different
@thebossladya2493
@thebossladya2493 2 роки тому
Great explanation. They happen so fast, though, I really can't tell them apart in real-time.
@jackroberts2704
@jackroberts2704 2 роки тому
Exactly
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 8 місяців тому
@@jackroberts2704 The Axel jump is the easiest to identify because it is the only jump in a forward direction. Toe loop jump: Right Back Outside edge with toe-pick assist Salchow jump: Left Back Inside edge Loop jump: Right Back Outside edge Flip jump: Left Back Inside edge with toe-pick assist Lutz jump: Left Back Outside edge with toe-pick assist Axel jump: Left Forward Outside edge
@AnimationLife0-0
@AnimationLife0-0 6 років тому
0:35 ...and you use your frEe leg 😂 Ok but I do hope your cold gets better
@chinitotop8131
@chinitotop8131 9 місяців тому
AMAZING 💥🫶🫶🫶
@HaveanIcedaymx
@HaveanIcedaymx 6 років тому
He's so charismatic!
@LennonTheBunny
@LennonTheBunny 6 років тому
They all look the same except for the axel
@stan4703
@stan4703 6 років тому
Lennon The Bunny well then please learn the jumps s
@thayrathyn
@thayrathyn 6 років тому
Actually, it's super hard to learn it from observation only. Once you try doing the jumps, every time you see somebody else doing them, you recognise the body movement immediately. I was trying to learn how to recognise jumps in competitions (before I started to skate) for two competition seasons and no success. I though I almost got it and then people used difficult entries and transitions into jumps and I lost it. Once I started skating myself, I started recognising them in a couple of months.
@KaylaMarie_
@KaylaMarie_ 6 років тому
Lennon The Bunny the difference is in the foot positions.
@VerionYoung
@VerionYoung 6 років тому
You can also tell the jumps by their entry and preparation moves before the take-off. So practise more and you will be able to tell for sure!!
@maaliwleah
@maaliwleah 6 років тому
Olympics 2018 Nathan Chen
@skatefan9495
@skatefan9495 4 роки тому
If the goal was to help identify the jumps, the video should have shown the entries. That makes it much easier to tell them apart.
@khoocheepeng
@khoocheepeng 6 років тому
amazing
@ameliawolinska9562
@ameliawolinska9562 2 роки тому
Amazing 💕
@JeremyMcCant
@JeremyMcCant 3 роки тому
This guy is sick!!!🔥🔥🔥
@animaljampatite2522
@animaljampatite2522 6 років тому
I seriously feel like I saw this guy at my skating rank. He just looks familiar. If it was, I never talked to him but he was skating beautifully.
@jiwookim
@jiwookim 6 років тому
Dope!!
@mi_ieko
@mi_ieko 2 роки тому
and yuzuru hanyu just attempted the quad axel today :')
@madelynmelancon
@madelynmelancon 5 років тому
every clockwise jumper is grumbling under their breath
@kittykat248100
@kittykat248100 5 років тому
1:11 "loop takes off completely backwards" ... shows clip of 1/2 rotation forward facing takeoff 1:54 "the lutz takes off on the back outside" ... shows clip of him switching to the inside edge significant upper body prerotation on the flip as well,,,,
@bone9jdjkaye
@bone9jdjkaye 4 роки тому
all loops have half prerotation.
@ErikaMaria-lw8en
@ErikaMaria-lw8en 6 років тому
Sad to hear that you were not able to be at the 2018 winter Olympics... but hey, don't ever give up ok xx
@L0R3NtheS0URL3M0N
@L0R3NtheS0URL3M0N 6 років тому
Jason has gifted us with knowledge from the gods xD
@Eric0816
@Eric0816 6 років тому
1:58 Ha, Flutz sighting! Nearly as perfect as Medvedeva's. 99.9 base value.
@stan4703
@stan4703 6 років тому
Eric0816 yesssss 😆
@delll372
@delll372 5 років тому
i know right. sad. because i really love his artistry, i hope his technique will improve since he is moving with new coach now! :)
@stan4703
@stan4703 5 років тому
But there are videos of Evgenia doing a CLEAN lutz on Instagram because of how Brian coaches her, she fell on the jump though, but it WAS an outside edge and minimal pre rotoation
@JackAShepherd
@JackAShepherd 5 років тому
Who besides Yuna and Alina have had consistent Lutz AND Flip 3-3s with proper edges? Yuna really interchanged the Flip-Toe and Lutz-Toe and Alina will do both in one FS, but I can’t think of anyone else...
@lez4083
@lez4083 5 років тому
JackAShepherd mhhhh you might wanna change Alina’s name in your comment. She is no where near Yuna. Yuna had textbook jumps , while Alina now has a flat edge on lutz, uses full blade assistance, and excessively pre-rotates.
@kat6038
@kat6038 6 років тому
his jumps are beautiful! :0
@halekizildagli4388
@halekizildagli4388 6 років тому
THANK UUU
@morganleigh5142
@morganleigh5142 4 роки тому
I love Jason Brown!
@briannamcgath5571
@briannamcgath5571 5 років тому
I can do a single besides a double loop and sal and lutz is easy for my experience
@draco_pinesxxx
@draco_pinesxxx Рік тому
I love how e can now say that this video is wrong bc of Ilia Malinin's quad axel (sorry if I butchered the spelling)
@lours6993
@lours6993 Рік тому
Quad Axel: Check - Ilia Malinin - 2022
@HISBestLifeCoach
@HISBestLifeCoach 6 років тому
Pure talent and natural entertainer 💦
@usuitakumi8179
@usuitakumi8179 6 років тому
It's so hard to breath hearing him lol love him tho
@its.sophee4817
@its.sophee4817 5 років тому
For anyone who doesn’t get it the main difference is how they take off and the entry
@killjoy555.
@killjoy555. 6 років тому
oh my godddd, what is 0:16 called?? i’ve been looking for it everywhere and how do you do it ?
@sistersimmer6520
@sistersimmer6520 5 років тому
It's called an illusion
@skyforce95
@skyforce95 2 роки тому
0:27 Salchow - edge jump, left foot inside edge take off 0:47 Toe Loop - pick jump, right foot outside edge take off 1:10 Loop - edge jump, right foot outside edge take off 1:23 Flip - pick jump, left foot inside edge take off 1:43 Lutz - pick jump, left foot outside edge take off 2:10 Axel - edge jump, forward left foot outside edge take off
@edmundgeswein
@edmundgeswein 6 років тому
All his jumps have very clean text book take offs except the Lutz which has the edge issue. His Lutz certainly doesn't have a strong outside all the way through the way skaters like Nathan Chen have (and Nathan does it on a quad).
@qiqisongs
@qiqisongs 6 років тому
Edmund Geswein His flip technique is also not very good. He has a curved entry instead of a straight entry. Skater with not-so-good-flip tend to flutz.
@edmundgeswein
@edmundgeswein 6 років тому
Qiqi Chia His flip may curve, but it picks nice without a lot of prerotation. But perhaps if he practiced flatter flips it might help him with the lutz. Certainly his lutz has some timing issues with the active outside edge being a little early. If he corrected this he'd have to learn to use a good strong "flick" on the take off to get rotation.
@yugiohlegend
@yugiohlegend 2 роки тому
They should’ve retaken the Lutz jump 😂 jk. This was a SUPER informative video and helped me understand each jump. Thank you ❤️
@BunnyBoiWinkWonk
@BunnyBoiWinkWonk 6 років тому
beautiful
@panpenl7800
@panpenl7800 Рік тому
Salchow 0:30 Toe loop 0:51 Loop 1:14 Flip 1:27 Lutz 1:55 Axel 2:16
@lmg6416ify
@lmg6416ify 7 місяців тому
Look his Lutz jump’s edge, it is Flutz.
@brianmatthews1736
@brianmatthews1736 5 місяців тому
Ilia Malinin has completed a Quadruple Axel in competition and it was counted as a quad...first one in competition in history.
@federicovazquez9455
@federicovazquez9455 5 років тому
I have questions about his Lutz entry.
@zakiyyahflores9793
@zakiyyahflores9793 6 років тому
I'm starting to skate and hopefully one day I can learn these lol thanks for this however I'm still do confused but that's okay
@thayrathyn
@thayrathyn 6 років тому
Actually, it's super hard to learn it from observation only. Once you try doing the jumps, every time you see somebody else doing them, you recognise the body movement immediately. I was trying to learn how to recognise jumps in competitions (before I started to skate) for two competition seasons and no success. I though I almost got it and then people used difficult entries and transitions into jumps and I lost it. Once I started skating myself, I started recognising them in a couple of months.
@zakiyyahflores9793
@zakiyyahflores9793 6 років тому
fyndhabhar ohhh that's awesome ! Hopefully I'll be able to do the same. Thank you ♡♡
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 6 років тому
Here's the different jumps in order of difficulty for right-footed skaters: Toe loop: Right Backward Outside edge (RBO), toe-pick assisted Salchow: Left Backward Inside edge (LBI) Loop: Right Backward Outside edge (RBO) Flip: Left Backward Inside edge (LBI), toe-pick assisted Lutz: Left Backward Outside edge (LBO), toe-pick assisted Axel: Left Forward Outside edge (LFO)
@zakiyyahflores9793
@zakiyyahflores9793 6 років тому
RaymondHng thank you for that ! I've been watching people do them and one jump I can definitely determine is the axel I in fact started practicing it on the ground and I barely know the basics of skating lol
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 6 років тому
See these jump simulation rotation practice exercises on a floor. Observe which foot is used on take off (edge jump) and which is used to dig into the floor (toe pick-assisted jump). The video can be slowed down. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/iKWgk4hkarCSmZ8.htmlm4s
@kiwijoe2916
@kiwijoe2916 5 років тому
Why is he so amazing?
@theoboegoddess
@theoboegoddess 5 років тому
I’m not a skater myself, but I love the sport. I think the easiest place to start, is the difference between a toe pick jump and non-toe pick. Those are obvious. so you can start from there first
@shaunkamakea-young9672
@shaunkamakea-young9672 4 роки тому
i wish they put the sal and loop next to each other. those are the two i always have issues distinguishing.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 4 роки тому
Salchow: Left Backward Inside edge (LBI) Loop: Right Backward Outside edge (RBO) In preparing a Salchow jump, the knees are together and the feet are apart. In preparing a loop jump, the legs are crossed at the knee.
@shaunkamakea-young9672
@shaunkamakea-young9672 4 роки тому
@@RaymondHng THANK YOU!!!! I'm gonna go practice watching and see if I can train my eye. thanks for the explanation.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 4 роки тому
@@shaunkamakea-young9672 You can see the crossing at the knee at 1:10. If you are on a desktop or laptop computer. Press the space bar to pause the video. Press the "." (period) key to advance the video one frame at a time. Press the "," (comma) to reverse the video one frame at time.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 3 роки тому
@@shaunkamakea-young9672 This video should be better at explaining. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gJuUdaN-eqGb1XU.html
@mandapanda7407
@mandapanda7407 20 днів тому
This is so helpful! To a complete noob like me, they all look the same as they happen so fast in real time 😅
@william.valentine
@william.valentine 4 роки тому
It's easier to tell apart if you look at the entrance of the jumps
@kornhulk6483
@kornhulk6483 4 роки тому
What is the best weight to being an ice skater?
@user-bf5cn4ze3u
@user-bf5cn4ze3u 4 роки тому
This so beautiful I love it
@bufb
@bufb 6 років тому
You make it all look so easy......if only I could stand up on the ice
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