For a 4 seasons tent?

Thanks Alan 👍

Thank you Mark. 👍 I think you a right Onetigris equipment is very well made. I have a few bits of theirs and never had an issue. I'm out in the Rock Fortress on Wednesday as its to be cold 🥶 even down in Dorset. Thank you for your comments they are very much appreciated 👍

Thanks Anthony! What's your thoughts on the tent? I was going to take it to Scotland this week as its due for some heavy snow but I noticed the stitching in one of the corners is coming apart so will be sending it back. 😕

Hi Kev, I've put it on the local park just to check how low it goes and as I said in the video it would go down an inch or so which it did. The velcro did hold the shell better but when putting it up in the wind on the coast it was a bit of a pain. I was going to do a follow up video on the park but for the life of me I couldn't get the porches lower to the ground. Best I could do was about 3 inches gap. I think unless your camping in the garden your never going to get a perfect pitch but for me having a gap where your kit is going to be isn't great. Having MSR's I think I will have to splash out and get the Access for 4 season camping but at the price I might as well go for a Hilleberg! 😅 For a budget tent is ok, but it depends on what is defined indevidualy as 4 seasons 👍

@greyhikes5236 you're absolutely correct, the fly never touches the ground but I found the no mesh inner combined with a reasonable height bathtub allowed ventilation without needing to open the top vents without any driving rain ingress. I wouldn't take it to the himalayas I admit but for a sub £200 tent it's incredible. It's kept me warm & dry through a mid December camp on Great mis in dartmoor & last Friday in 0 degrees on Great staple tor. This tent is epic for the money, I think you could've been more positive.

@@kevmacmillanadams I don't think I was to negative on it as it's a matter of opinion as I haven't taken it up to Scotland yet. It is great for £200 but for me when it's described as 4 season and on my last 4 videos my question is 'what defines a 4 season tent' so I wouldn't be comfortable saying it was due to the gaps. However I did say that it was way warmer than the Lanshan 1 & 2 4 seasons that I tested previously. So it has some positives and some negatives. I'm not an authority in tents as I've said in the video I don't do reviews. It's up to individuals to do their reaserch and kind of make there own decisions. The ODGR guy loves this tent and states that he has thoroughly tested it even though he hasn't attached any guy lines to it? I will see how it gets on in Kintail next month in the snow. Its great to hear your having some good results with the tent hopefully I will too next month 🤞

@greyhikes5236 I'm looking forward to your updated review & I fully appreciate your opinion , I think maybe a four season tent and a perfect tent may be two separate things, take it steady👍

@@kevmacmillanadams "I think maybe a four season tent and a perfect tent may be two separate things" absolutely Kev 👍

I think your right with the term quality. I didn't feel the Stella had that. It is very similar to another tent in the onetigris range. It is the first tent I've ever sent back tbh. I think there has to be clearer standards on what qualifies a tent as 4 season. To many budget tents and equipment also have ratings that are just made up tbh. I've actually just converted my MSR Elixir 2 inner into a 4 season inner by closing off all the mesh with 20d nylon because we couldn't find a one that suited. 👍

Yes I think that's a difficult one. They both have good and bad points. I would favour on the CP2 for a few reasons. Price is £165, it has more points of contact and guy points. Both are advertised as 4 seasons but smiler weight and hight. Both don't have large porches but I would favour the CP2 imho 👍

Cheers, I am leaning towards the CP2 tbh@@greyhikes5236

Are you talking about the cross member?

@greyhikes5236 yes..figured it out..

Thank you, yes it was its the first tent I've ever had to send back unfortunately. 😔

Yeh it's a strange one where you have to open the zip of the porch to let the air in. 🤷‍♂️

@@greyhikes5236 I am guessing it was designed for a two way zip but then they went for a cheaper zip

@phililpb it's a to way zipper but not ykk. I didn't notice it until I was packing up in the morning. 🤦

@@greyhikes5236 I checked mine again and it only has a one way zip. As you say it is a budget tent and with that you get buget chinese manufacturing so I guess I dipped out there

Wow that's disappointing! Tbh I sent mine back as it had issues on the corners of the inner and a few other niggles. But one way zip that is really bad 😳

For what it is yes when you see other tents. I was more interested in my 4 season question and unfortunately it fell short of that. I think my Lanchan 1 offers more by being able to drop it to the ground but still I don't think it would fair well in windy conditions.👍

Do you have some examples please ?

Hi, sorry examples of what?

@D3xios Robens Boulder 2 is cheaper. I have ordered one and will be reviewing soon. You can compare specs, also a good few big Agnes tents available under £200.

@@greyhikes5236 I was asking @MoosebearAdventures because he talks about much better tents for the same amount of money