Es gibt immer Luft nach oben.

there is no point in judging it as a CGI rendering and comparison, there is no real physics there, just replication in a "brutal force" way

Lovecraftian :)

try eliptic curve fourrier transformations of matrices in elementary systems of equations with variables of functions to the topology of the space

Welcome...to ai.

I want to see a video of an FPS game in hyperbolic space

Lol yeah

Wow, nicely spotted!

Interesting; this also happened to the lady in the red dress in the video the OpenAI team put out demonstrating Sora's release.

Wow that's actually a neat transition

This happens in many of the Sora videos, like the woman walking with sunglasses in the street and the puppies playing in snow. The video of the African family does weird things with their hands, so not perfect but very close. Compared to about a year ago with the will Smith spaghetti video it seems decades ahead.

Sounds like an insult to lucid dreaming...

@petrac.1739 You mad over here for no reason😂

@@petrac.1739lucid dreaming is bad for everybody’s health

can you elaborate ?​@@edupe6185

​@@edupe6185It's not

Also, there's a bed in the kitchen

Yeah, I have to take issue with his insistence that the AI "really has a model of the house itself". Sora may have much less consistency issues than previous AI video models, but they still clearly exist (especially in those "blooper" Sora clips, such as the weird chair at the archeological dig). And so many of those fly-through clips have a crazy amount of scale and perspective shifting that makes no sense in a true 3D context. On a fundamental level, it's still doing the same 2D "autocomplete" as prior video models - there's still no true spatial understanding.

placing a couch like that, right in front of the tv is VILE

I don't really like this youtube for this sort of reason. He rarely seems to approach things objectively, applying criticism even when it is obviously appropriate. It's more a channel where he just confirms his biases, and generates hype. Pretty misleading given the title of the channel.

Yeah, and those are small issues. If this was a quick scene in a movie 90% of people would miss it completely or just... you know, not care. These will be easily fixed.

Really interesting idea. It's kind of like testing animals if they recognize themselves in the mirror but with a twist

I`m curious about that too! There is only 1 AI video about a train that eventually moves trough a tunnel. You then see the reflection of a woman holding a phone, filming the scene.

My assumption is that it would just choose randomly each time, unless you specify things.

It would probably just show a random person, like the woman filming in the train video

The result would be highly contextual based on the specific wording of the prompt in relation to the training data.

fr. the fact that it’s growth will be exponential is kinda insane to think about.

This dude’s dead consciousness reanimated via AI in a live audio video format will probably be telling us about a new incredible AI technology that can kill the user, but, hold on to your papers fellow scholars, because it can do this without the user even knowing! What a time to be alive!!!

It will make sure you won't get old. In good and bad ways.

My grandmother passed away last year. She was able to witness horse-drawn carriages and GPT3 during her lifetime.

@@carlosrivadulla8903 wild.

Also human design has a purpose but it’s like it simulates and mix what it has seen but not understand why which can be problematic. I think a lot of people going to be disappointed when we try more concrete things.

Don't think it's that simple, just like LLMs are not "just predicting the next words". LLMs need to learn the concept behind the words before being able to predict the next word. In the same manner, SORA needs to learn the concept of what is an elephant before being able to create one made out of leaves. Same goes for physics, and everything else, really. Hence why OpenAI is calling it a "World Model" and not just a "Video Generator". I don't think this is just propaganda from their end, the successor to this thing will probably be able to generate full virtual 3D worlds on the run if it was instructed to do so.

@@luisfonseca9045 it doesn’t need to learn the concepts to do it. Better to learn how these works to understand the limits. Even if we put hundreds of millions in cost to train them it still can’t calculate numbers better than a calculator. It struggle to break down words to letters because it’s trained on words. Sora forgets objects when they are hidden and changes them. Sora does wrong numbers on legs on ants. It’s a lot of challenges and there are not answers on everything. But it’s not all or nothing, it’s great tools but we can’t predict the future.

shush, it's ethically wrong to imply that humans might be better than anything, especially AI

@@luisfonseca9045 Do you have an example of an LLM that can “learn the concepts behind the words”? All I’ve seen are LLMs that are better at attention (relative importance) and the _relationships_ between words, and are trained on larger datasets, but none that actually know anything. Is there an LLM out there that isn’t just a really good text generator?

Just in the news this week, Microsoft is dumping $115B on Stargate for OpenAI and Mistral, and Amazon is putting $150B into their own AI data centers for Anthropic. The compute side of the issue will probably to be resolved by the early 2030s, if the timelines hold up, although I'm sure this will only be the beginning of AI related megaprojects. In terms of power generation, nuclear fusion isn't really necessary, except to bring down the price of electricity production, and I don't think it's certain that it will ever be a viable energy source, though the possible benefits are obviously high enough to justify the research. In the meantime, Microsoft and OpenAI are already lobbying for fission plants in the shorter term. The timeline for their construction will be a lot faster than from any government initiative, since the funds will be readily available and not held hostage by "democracy". They also have the skilled labor and engineers on hand to design these plants, and the profit incentive for completion will be very high.

@@GeoMeridium Capital can only take you as far at the implementation you are utilizing, but all the innovation has come from years old transformer papers google published. I don't think this will be solved with the current implementation. Only time will tell what comes of this. Thank you on the update tho. :)

Yeah, but what's going to be accomplished before that roadblock? If the roadblock comes in 2035, even 2030, the computational advances will still be big enough to give us some crazy stuff

@@gunzor8717 you can polish a turd all you want, at the end of the day, it's still a turd. :D

@@juanmacias5922 Google played a big role in making transformers but to credit them with all the progress is kind of asinine. Tons of new things have been discovered since then.

Every time something good happens, there's someone there to poopoo it

Crypto was a good idea until it wasn't. The infinite greed and research for immediate quick profit ruins everything.

i dont like paywals but here there should be one so that exact thing doesnt happen, or atleast not as often

It's obvious for me that you're also aware of the dangers, clickbaits and such. But i doubt we'll be aware all the time. For example, the other day i watched a video about a french guy who filmed Pablo Escobar. He told how he managed to do that, what happened that day. In the end, after reading the comments below, i realized he was totally dubbed by IA into english! I got stunned! I know about IA, i know very well how to detect most of it, i know what this is capable of. But even with this ''skill'', i wasn't able to realize it, because i wasn't unaware of this as possiblity on a random video on internet. That's crazy! I also follow a page of old photos on Facebook. Great photographs, historic ones and such. But now, sometimes i can remind myself and ask to myself if what i'm seeing is a real image or one made by IA. From now, we will not be able to trust anything, not even a video, a very consistent photo and such. This is crazy and a lot of adjectives. lol

Yeah I mean, it's not like we already have garbage content, fraud, spam, and a lot of other things.

Yeah the job market is going to fall apart and the difference between the super rich and everyone else will become larger. The ones that are replaced last are the heads of companies.

@@spumbibjorn This is the only sane, non-hysterical comment that I've seen on this video

@@benjaminsandeen9241 Hopefully it all turns out alright, but whatever happens, things will get shaky for a while. I am studying for a master in computer science but I will try to pivot into cyber security because I do not wanna deal with this shit.

@@spumbibjorn Sam altman seems to be wanting to change the class World system that we have in west right now

@@spumbibjorn Heads of companies can be replaced (they cost too much). Shareholders are the end game.

That's a survivors mentality

I would recommend you keep track of the copyright lawsuits directed at AI companies right now.

@@mktwos Which will go nowhere. The Genie is out of the bottle.

@@dirremoire we will see.

How's your hearing? That must be a major concern.

You must be fun at parties.

No one really cares bud

Why are people giving negative replies, this is a useful comment for people who haven't seen Niagara falls for a long time or even ever...

@@The9thDoctor She's underlining the value of real shots of real things.

farming

AI still can only replicate - so at the moment it can't really be creative or stupid - so humanity still has 2 things going :)

@@OmguserrCreativity is often just combining known things in a new way. Just like what Sora is doing.

@@Lerppunen often ...

AI is already being used to create all new new alloys, polymers, drugs​ etc. Anything you can and can't imagine. You don't need to be human to be creative. If there is an AI that imitates any form of creative sentience(learning from human creation) it's output will be creative. It will also combine that with the creations of the natural world it has also learned from.

Make that two years at the current rate...

No

6:38 I like the two holding hands that walk off a cliff lol. Not to mention the floating people beyond them.

Yeah we should start early on becasue it gonna get progresively more difficult

Amen

The 'opportunity cost' of never re-inventing the wheel, would be failing to have invented the wheel.

What do you mean?

@@cosmiclounge Well, I can’t argue with that logic. In any case, we already have plenty of videos and people can easily make more with current technology. There is a limited number of highly technical people. They could be working on the important problems that are facing our species and the planet. For example: disease, crop yields, pollution, energy, transportation, etc., but instead we get artificial cat videos (and that’s the best thing) because investors see the best prospect of a profitable IPO in that. Our fates are tied to Silicon Valley because when you put your money in the bank, someone who doesn’t own your money sends it there.

@@daroldfuapse6178 doesn't help either that the videogame business being a multi billion dollar industry. It's like they are trying to cash out on the bubble that is the entertainment industry rather than produce anything worthwhile

@@daroldfuapse6178 The people behind this stuff aren't building this tech just to generate cute videos; video models are a byproduct of their attempt to create AGI, which they believe (correctly or incorrectly) will turn the planet into a utopia. They have the same goals as you

this is the worst it will ever be

No it's not. It's an averaged derivative of hundreds of robots I've seen before in cheap games and cheap sci fi movies.

It's an AI voiceover...

incorrect, it does have understanding of real world concepts, it just not right as of now, it will keep improving in the future

@@bottomtextdanny3050 no, it really does not. It doesn't have any concept of the physics of flowing water, nor the rules behind light transport. It simply knows what a scene might look like when described as having "flowing water" or "a glass table". When specifying something like "Niagara Falls but with paint" it draws upon data of the appearance of niagara falls and of what paint looks like, and it just so happens that the only real correlation between the two is the regions with water since paint is often depicted as being poured. This correlation then causes those regions to share characteristics of both subjects, without even the slightest understanding of fluid dynamics.

It's kind of difficult to tell whether it can learn or has learned physics concepts. The laws of physics are latent in the data. Or, at least in data captured from real-world footage. So, there is a possibility that these laws get encoded approximately in the neural net. In this sense, it is not doing fluid simulations intentionally but rather by consequence. There is however a lot more happening in videos that it also needs to encode, like objects, their moving components, their color patterns, and camera angles, light interactions, lens types, etc. If we are capable of extracting fluid simulation from the neural net, it is likely going to be a poor man's fluid simulation.

I’d just like to say that this is a fascinating conversation to read.

@@baerververgaert1308 You are correct. People don't get that AI is far less I than they realize. It's just a visual auto-complete based on stealing other people's hard work without consent.

No, it's a bowtie, like the two middle ones

Rabbit centaur

we will always need good artists, don't worry CEOs probably still won't be creative enough to create stunning art. We'll need artists to generate art I think. And who knows maybe "handmade 3d Art"instead of AI art will be really precious in the future haha. Seriously tho I don't think learning art will ever be a waste of time, it will make you more creative so keep it up!

I get how you feel. You will always be able to practice 3D workflows. Same as how we can still paint. Push yourself and you’ll find a niche in the industry

Problem is not we need artists ,problem is we will need less artists.

Design furniture to 3D print and sell it.

Software eats the world.

Though we also know the limitations of ai image generation already and what it can’t do because it emulate and mix visual patterns but not understand why. Totally different from reasoning in text.

It’s probably edited and composed together if it’s a longer talk and that’s maybe not always natural

@@hombacom idk man, nothing about his voice sounds natural... It is, but it's hard to accept. It sounds like a rare accent combination that resulted in this abomination. Of course, that's mean to say but my god, I can't help myself. It sounds to unbelievably fake. I wish him well though, but i can't tolerate listening to him for more than a minute, and this is a 2 minute talk, lol...

It is- Actually- 100% AI generated- Or sampled- AAND- you can tell- because- It repeats things- AAAND-

@@Gerlaffy Hmm, but his channel has been around longer than AI has been good at voice imitation I think.

@@Gerlaffy Well, I just viewed a video he uploaded 8 years ago and he sounds entirely different and natural sounding. I think you're right.

and its so consistent too hahaha

boowomp

It will take over some peoples jobb for sure. But it will take a good more while before we see pure ai driven companies. Most people see it more like a incredible tool to aid artists in creating.

The training data? Was what he was referring to?

He wasn't saying they did, but rather might be emulating distanced based LOD in engines that use polygons.

car

It's the platonic concept of a car lol

What I'm curious about is when AI is good enough to make edits to things. How will discussion about a show/movie look if people can use AI to edit and continue it? A popular show comes out and someone asks the AI to edit a character out and continue the plot as if they aren't there... How will that go? Are we going to start seeing threads labeled: [BASE STORY ONLY]? Will we see people asking for the best fan edits? I don't think limitless AI creation will stop people from watching other people's shows. We've very social and a lot of people watch something just to see what the fuss is about. I'm very eager to see what people make, and I think the best ideas are the things you never thought of... But the landscape might get weird.

@IcyLucario That's definitely very true and food for thought! I've just been watching some things on here that show you can already create some amazing things given a little time and imagination while also using A.I. I feel that in some ways, A.i will have a specific style to it. While you can create many images and videos in different styles, there's still something that gives you that sense that it's A.I and that's without any failings the A.i images used to have which are greatly reduced now. It will be interesting to see what directions it takes. I also agree people will still want to watch real people and movies and there is some visceral about them, a gritty feeling. CGI as well as A.I still have that, everything is so perfect feel about them. In the real world there is dust, smoke etc which all have an effect on the world around us.

@Faizan29353 Yeah, mostly although I would also add that things seem shiny, they lack something the real world has.

The thing is that what he says is not true. These kind of AI are good at generating things that LOOKS LIKE the data they learnt with, but they are not actually producing outputs based on the laws of physics. For example, if I ask an AI "Draw me the lenses of a refracting telescope" it will output something that looks like a set telescope lenses, but if you try to actually build the telescope based on those lenses it will be complete useless garbage. Same thing concerning fluid dynamics : you can generate content that looks like wind tunnel tests of a plane wing (for example) BUT it will be totally useless to determine stall angle or generated drag. It's not simply that "well maybe it's just a lack of computation power", the thing is that the model did not learnt light transport equations or Navier-Stokes equations, it learnt how to generate content that looks like the related physical phenomenon. However you can use AI to generate data to help light transportation or fluid dynamics or whatever simulations, for example in the case of fluid dynamics, the small scale turbulence exhibit a self-similar behavior with specific statistical properties, which can be learnt by an AI to generate "content" in a real fluid simulation (i.e, solving real laws of physics)

​@@76EliamExactly! I don't understand the need to imply that it understands physics, other than marketing. Do people understand physics if they remember how a waterfall looks and behaves?

it definitely just replicates 3d things

Replicates in this case. Although there are 3D AI generators which you could render the scene from

Fortunately, right now it is too complicated for AI to make meshes and such. However AI is getting better at mimicking depth perception, which is what you are seeing

@@jlopez4889 this is not true though, AI models exist for mesh generation

Yes or model and sim some scene in 3D and be able to pour all the time into the important parts and just have the far mid ground and background be generated in order to save time. this means no extra time wasted on simulation for basic oceans and having to spend time on a system for scattering trees or rocks. no wasted time setting up complex texturing systems for mountains or hue differences on trees. In a way we can use this for the boring stuff and hyper focus control onto the main subject. You can also do what you said. Use sora for concept footage to figure out the shot. maybe even extract nerf of photogrammetry as position guides to get started modelling.

@@jinxxpwnage "No wasted time" in the real world = no paid salary hours and staff cuts. Thank goodness this stuff sucks and looks as awful as it does.

@@robertruffo2134 Well i'm all for tech if it's used to augment. I wasn't suggesting it's good to layoff staff. Of course it doesn't matter in the end things will fall into place for the better or worse.

@@jinxxpwnage How do you know that? History is not consistent that way. The middle class is already hollowed out. And... It's not reasonable to be all for tech. Nuclear weapons are tech AR 15s are tech, not all tech is good.

@robertruffo2134 i mentioned i was all for tech if it augments. I'll add positively as a clarification. We can't really do anything about it. Again time will tell By the way i think you didn't finish reading my comment. I said things will play out for better or worse. I never stated it'd play out for the better.

So in next 5 to 7 years ..we dont know what is real or made by ai..?

@@piteshbhanushali1140 We don't?