Peter Thiel on Political Theology | Conversations with Tyler

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In this conversation recorded live in Miami, Tyler and Peter Thiel dive deep into the complexities of political theology, including why it’s a concept we still need today, why Peter’s against Calvinism (and rationalism), whether the Old Testament should lead us to be woke, why Carl Schmitt is enjoying a resurgence, whether we’re entering a new age of millenarian thought, the one existential risk Peter thinks we’re overlooking, why everyone just muddling through leads to disaster, the role of the katechon, the political vision in Shakespeare, how AI will affect the influence of wordcels, Straussian messages in the Bible, what worries Peter about Miami, and more.
Recorded February 21st, 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 98
@user-wu9nc1hq7o
@user-wu9nc1hq7o 20 днів тому
peter on thumbnail. im in
@lakshitchopra758
@lakshitchopra758 20 днів тому
Peter Thiel is a bona fide polymath! :)
@harrison6082
@harrison6082 21 день тому
It's nice to hear Peter's latest ideas and perspective. 9:00 14:47 16:59 19:58 35:28 49:15 53:35 56:55 1:01:02 1:03:56 1:15:18 1:16:26 1:19:28
@levimk101
@levimk101 20 днів тому
I always find learning a bit about different languages really worthwhile. You see how you can think differently about familiar problems, think about the language’s design tradeoffs, trying to breakdown problems in new ways, and other interesting learning experiences.
@r3dhand_
@r3dhand_ 21 день тому
Loved his point on the inversions of the new and old testament.
@r3dhand_
@r3dhand_ 21 день тому
Also the idea of being a greater victim than Christ being impossible is grand.
@colastaylor2055
@colastaylor2055 9 днів тому
Excellent video, ties back in the foundational principle that you want to be consciously consistently criticising your established perception of yourself
@davidkey4272
@davidkey4272 21 день тому
Whoah! Where did this come from. This just made my day
@_1jay
@_1jay 20 днів тому
No (direct) questions about aging tech? "I remain committed to the faith of my teenage years: to authentic human freedom as a precondition for the highest good. I stand against confiscatory taxes, totalitarian collectives, and the ideology of the inevitability of the death of every individual. " Peter Thiel, 2007 The Education of a Libertarian
@vanessa1569
@vanessa1569 16 днів тому
Again, why am I always surprised by Thiel? He’s a bit of an enigma.
@nickelmouse451
@nickelmouse451 15 днів тому
Wrapped in a sensual, sensual body
@WongTag
@WongTag 15 днів тому
In this world of ideologically motivated masses, he appears heterodox. I suspect more of us are similarly circumspect and wise if not as intelligent. It’s just not a behavior directly rewarded by our contemporary systems.
@nathanngumi8467
@nathanngumi8467 20 днів тому
Great discussion and questions!
@user-ql4ud9zr7m
@user-ql4ud9zr7m 14 днів тому
I understood half of it, where can I learn more?
@andreferretti7087
@andreferretti7087 20 днів тому
How did no one ask Peter's opinion on the public debt bubble (and money printing)? He even explicitly linked the US in the 2020s to the Weimar Republic in the 1920s!
@thomasp.1828
@thomasp.1828 21 день тому
Spartan dress. Peter's neck is very sculptable.
@andrewhooper7603
@andrewhooper7603 18 днів тому
​@gregb954 🤞
@FeterPrahm
@FeterPrahm 17 днів тому
​@gregb954yeah he doesn't look particularly healthy
@SP-ye8hj
@SP-ye8hj 16 днів тому
Pretty gay dude
@resurrectingexcellence
@resurrectingexcellence 15 днів тому
He's probably got aids
@user-ql4ud9zr7m
@user-ql4ud9zr7m 13 днів тому
It looks ugly , not sculptable
@dmystfy
@dmystfy 15 днів тому
His answer to the question at 10:07 was unexpected!
@MetricsOfMeaning
@MetricsOfMeaning 19 днів тому
11:59 BAP Yarvin Hazony connection very relevant
@reedjohnny4635
@reedjohnny4635 16 днів тому
1:21:46 "delve", Paul Graham isn't happy.
@libaax1342
@libaax1342 18 днів тому
There is this dualism in Peter, "fight" on one side against world control/existential risks relating to "one partysms"/control AND investments in Palantir enable control/collection of data that facilitate the existential risks he is "fighting".
@FeterPrahm
@FeterPrahm 17 днів тому
while I appreciate his philosophical insights, I dislike the companies he invests in
@julianjdogg
@julianjdogg 11 днів тому
It makes sense if you want to win. You bet on both sides.
@ryankane9500
@ryankane9500 21 день тому
"optimistic boomer libertarian like you" only real miladys felt this one
@andrewhooper7603
@andrewhooper7603 18 днів тому
They should have pressed him on automations effects on the working class.
@RozkminaRozwojowa
@RozkminaRozwojowa 18 днів тому
Zero to One - fantastic!!!!
@FionaHuang-xh7nw
@FionaHuang-xh7nw 20 днів тому
Peter Thiel
@nah8845
@nah8845 12 днів тому
As much as Thiel is an anti-communist, I am an anti-libertarian/anti-liberal. However, even though I essentially disagree on probably most everything, I'm quite struck at how much more of an intellectual Thiel is in comparison to his billionaire contemporaries. At minimum, I appreciate his thoroughness and depth in intellectual pursuits and that at least inspires me to take my own intellectual pursuits more seriously so as to be able to have even more profound and well versed counter-logic to his what I believe to be heinous and evil conception of humanity, liberalism, and the "meaning" of life.
@VisibleTrouble
@VisibleTrouble 21 день тому
39:00 - Mistaking Properties for Features- he will make the same mistake… too smart to not know.
@wil3
@wil3 20 днів тому
peter is the closest thing we have to niccolò machiavelli in these times. Always a pleasure to hear from him
@ASwagPecan
@ASwagPecan 19 днів тому
Max Azzarello send anyone else here?
@veronicapadilla7912
@veronicapadilla7912 13 днів тому
not just you lol
@MarsBorg
@MarsBorg 16 днів тому
Thetan Speil - Ameropath
@kyleward5249
@kyleward5249 20 днів тому
Dang, Perhaps my view of Peter was ill informed previously because I thought as a successful entrepreneur he was more of an original thinker. And maybe it was due to the line of questioning but it seemed he was either plugging other world views with the constant combatants of how he can't quite subscribe to a certain existing theology. Or he was trying to avoid the soapbox. He just decided for whatever reason to not turn and face a more conclusive perspective. What do I know maybe originality is unachievable
@MetricsOfMeaning
@MetricsOfMeaning 19 днів тому
His reasoning is very via negativa, or apophatic. He inducts from and toward the negative of concepts, rather than over stretching and affirming a concepts existence. It’s why he’s libertarian, he’s anti holistic systematic methods that positively asserts.
@matthewlee7287
@matthewlee7287 14 днів тому
Peter is a student of Rene Girard whose entire philosophy revolved around mimesis and imitation. I have a feeling Peter doesn't believe it's that possible or easy to be truly original. He probably subscribes to the idea that imitation is fundamental to our nature.
@JusticeConder
@JusticeConder 21 день тому
Secular christianity
@morganp7238
@morganp7238 21 день тому
Is Thiel ill or just thinning up? I hope it is the latter. He was not in good shape.
@brycewaddell5673
@brycewaddell5673 21 день тому
He’s on diabetic meds
@kevinlong4657
@kevinlong4657 20 днів тому
maybe his blood boy is on vacation
@HiberNAT
@HiberNAT 12 днів тому
Ozempic face 👀
@healthymealthy775
@healthymealthy775 15 днів тому
Catacon? did I get that right?
@austinjensen8464
@austinjensen8464 12 днів тому
*Katechon
@61757
@61757 12 днів тому
Chatgpt said, when i asked if Kamala would cone with a market crash, it replied, we cannot say anything bad about the vice president....AI not so smart
@shannon-daygrant8754
@shannon-daygrant8754 17 днів тому
are the prostitute and bank robber equivalent? re: 1:15 ish...because from a libertarian perspective (like Thiels) isn't the prostitute morally superior to the bank robber? unless he was talking about it from Rosa Luxembourg's pov...
@IslamicRageBoy
@IslamicRageBoy 20 днів тому
First
@g.o.9513
@g.o.9513 16 днів тому
Peter is probably the highest level in Helldivers 2
@jaythefox
@jaythefox 20 днів тому
Ayn Rand wasn't Jewish, she was Greek.
@cristianst85
@cristianst85 15 днів тому
In a sense, yes. Because her philosophy was much influenced of Aristotle.
@sebastianaguiarbrunemeier9192
@sebastianaguiarbrunemeier9192 16 днів тому
In which Thiel reinvents himself as a Biblical scholar
@junkscience6397
@junkscience6397 День тому
Still FAR more fact filled than your empty comment....
@timothybrosz7697
@timothybrosz7697 21 день тому
how would he ever talk to a student
@kbkesq
@kbkesq 21 день тому
Assign reading to be completed before the conversation. Student wouldn’t have to know everything he knows as a 50-something.
@carlosmanueljager169
@carlosmanueljager169 21 день тому
Poor Tyler
@maxsebastian
@maxsebastian 16 днів тому
He needs to lay off the ozempic
@kbkesq
@kbkesq 21 день тому
I’m here to hear if Peter thinks the end of the world is here. A few years ago he pooh poohed AI but now it’s a huge factor. He had vision moving palantir out of California specifically San Francisco and just look at how bad Google is with employees revolting to support Hamas. Look at universities from top to bottom failing.
@harbifm766766
@harbifm766766 20 днів тому
He lost a lot of weight..hpefully not because of a cell growth mutation
@spiralizing
@spiralizing 16 днів тому
Yikes
@jennetal.984
@jennetal.984 11 днів тому
Can you just drop Karl Schmitt’s name and not expect a phone call from your donors?
@burtonsankeralli5445
@burtonsankeralli5445 21 день тому
AI can render the Anti Christ superfluous.
@andrewhooper7603
@andrewhooper7603 18 днів тому
Elaborate
@burtonsankeralli5445
@burtonsankeralli5445 18 днів тому
@@andrewhooper7603 AI may soon be able to do everything tbe antiChrist does and better
@oath4717
@oath4717 День тому
ai could manifest as the Antichrist, as most AI is woke, like chatgpt, and opposes morality and religion itself
@ubergenie6041
@ubergenie6041 21 день тому
So Theil seems to understand the incoherence of Calvinism 😮 Theology proper must ask about the nature of god. Instead we get an interview that runs through,”Why aren’t you x, why aren’t you y, so then are you z?” Very pedantic. Why not start with what we think we know to be true about the nature of god if such a being exists and then move towards the organization of societies given god’s nature and also man’s condition in god’s world? How does this get to the central religious questions: Where did we come from? Where are we going when we die? How should we live our lives morally if there is indeed an objective source of morality? How do I relate to god? How do we organize a society that operates the way god would want me us to?
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater 21 день тому
cope
@matthewjnyman
@matthewjnyman 21 день тому
Very much agree on your preference for the discussion. Would have liked to see this too. On your intro comment, I think Calvin-ism has become a dissection of parts stretched to extremes. But could you say that Calvin's views don't share the same degree of incoherence?
@cherylwilder7369
@cherylwilder7369 16 днів тому
Read the book of Revelation in the Bible...the pages are litterally unfolding on the world stage...only God himself would have known the future..Jesus is coming back soon
@DanHowardMtl
@DanHowardMtl 15 днів тому
Daniel was written after the fact pretending to be prophetic.
@tripp8833
@tripp8833 19 днів тому
He's really worried about a one-world state... How exactly is that going to work with Iran, Israel, US, China, Saudi Arabia? They're just going to wake up and decide to get along one day?
@hcharton5722
@hcharton5722 16 днів тому
Talk about being in your own head, wow.
@SP-ml9je
@SP-ml9je 11 днів тому
he does not look well...
@mandyshanks2327
@mandyshanks2327 17 днів тому
Is he speaking English? No idea what he is talking about.
@schwajj
@schwajj 15 днів тому
It’s extremely comprehensible, for the most part. Most likely you’re missing relevant background (as I am on some of the theological points, eg: Calvinism).
@timothybrosz7697
@timothybrosz7697 21 день тому
does he know anything ... just lucky he made a lot of money
@Analyst2019pro
@Analyst2019pro 16 днів тому
Dude he’s a Stanford law grad hahaha
@loremipsum685
@loremipsum685 16 днів тому
saying "the woke" non-ironically is not only utterly cringe but utterly out of touch
@AnilSardemann
@AnilSardemann 11 днів тому
Whataboutism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism?wprov=sfla1
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