Is it reslly for eternity? Punishment? Hard to call this justly satisfying, I don't think I want anyone to suffer for eternity, or to suffer needlessly. He is clearly going to be harming people on the same plane in the blood war However there is some trope. I don't think the trope of 'accepting punishment' as 'punishment' even eternal damnation is a good thing Especially bad is the director's exegesis of the green knight ending, so if you take this ending to the game as seriously as the director of the green knight took his especially if you take it seriously It would be no hope

it makes some sense reaction-wise, but it isn't necessariy a correct way of looking at things. I don't agree that this is the way we should look at people in real life, or how people shoud look at each other. forgiveness etc isnt rivial, and deifnitely eternal suffeiing isn't a wish or solution; i noticed the breaking bad directors excpressed the horrific idea tha thtye're fine with no heaven but want a hell: now that is reflection of an attitude that is relfected in different times and places quite widely in human history but that is fundamentally wrong. The impulse to want people to just 'suffer' is ultimately a failure of human psychology in connection to ethics It is fundamentally linked to the incorrect identification of several things, mainly some kind of fundamental phenomenon of 'recognition' with 'measuring out' or dealing out/experiencing a suffering It is ironic that arch-conservative dostoevsky pointed out through the mouth of ivan karamazov that he doesn't want a hell, he doesn't want people to suffer and that it wouldn't 'justify' or repay the suffering in the world in any way you could arhube about the going gently but imnot sure

It's satisfying in the context of the fantasy setting in which the game takes place Much less satisfying is reading your comments, which range from long-winded digressions to clipped questions that come off as smarmy and unnecessary

@@halberdsturgeon8775 Especially Considering that spelling mistakes aside, The Nameless one is the most powerful being in the universe really (The Authors Admit that TNO by virtue of his immortality, if he remembers all his past incarnations is MAX LVL IN EVERY CLASS) so it might just be a blitz of a victory for him, *and the moral ramifications of harming people in the blood war are zilch as they are all damned beings same as him.* Not to mention that it is far better then an eternity of Endless death until both you and your discarded mortality are crippled beings who will plead for Damnation, rather then the eternity of constant suffering inflicted on themselves and the universe. Really, this fellow is trying to just come off as being enlightened, but instead comes off as someone who's trying to go "Well I coulda wrote it better." No hope, pffwfft there is always hope, if there were no hope the many mythos of our world would not have messages of hope in them.

From half-man to man

How about 20?

@@newhampguy I believe it's still going strong. There really aren't that many gems like this, either in gaming or storytelling.

Still the best.@@newhampguy

This is what I thought. He fused with a god, which would make him a god. At the very least it would take a god to truly kill him.

@@lamestudiosinc418 The lower planes are full of Nameless Ones.

The piper? Halted?

Manly tear?

In later editions of Planescape, the Blood War has ended. In my headcannon, TNO ended the war.

Somedude made a looooong fan novel and in the ending, Dak'kon is lost in limbo, Grace is scouting the bloodwar searching for him and Annah (now in her 40's), Morte, Nordrom and 2 more rogue Modrons are trying to make a spell to bring him back.

@@elroma7712 Do you have the link to read it ?

​@@lux2625you tube keeps erasing it.

@@elroma7712 In that case, just pass me the name of the fan fiction. Or remove the ".com", "http" "www" so that it is just plain text.

pretty sure theres way more than one way to end in combat i revived Dak'kon and then the fight started but theres a couple of ways to *challenge* your adversary

To bad there is no easter egg, not in nwn.. bg, and another dnd games.

It rely would be nerdgasm if a DLC for BG3 is added where you adventure with Karlach in the blood wars, and stumbled across a grey skinned tattooed and scarred man.

Lol I thought dying to be of no importance at all. It stung a bit when I realized this probably means a hundred or so people died for TNO just in his final incarnation.

@@lamestudiosinc418 if you die and die again slowly people in Sigil will disappear. If you die enough time Sigil may be almost empty

“And it has made a posturing spirit think it is something more than a part of me.”

It is torment. It's in the name of the game. Hell, it's in the stone that shows in this video, IMMEDIATELY after the question gets asked. TNO changes constantly through the torment of being immortal. His companions each have one personal torment or affliction that has changed them forever.

***** If there is anything I have learned in my travels across the Planes, it is that many things may change the nature of a man. Whether regret, or love, or revenge or fear - whatever you believe can change the nature of a man, can. :-)

***** it's pretty obvious that it is torment.

***** thats the thing, there is no clear answer in the game - you and only you as a player decide what can change it or not as you experience the sad stories of every character displayed in the game, be it from loving witch to forever cursed talking skull to kind succubus to eternal slave dakkon.. - this game is way more interactive than any other

+eastwing329 That was the answer I gave when Ravel asked.

torment

There is taro cards by Russian artist Alfina. It's perfect.

true:))

he is still a limited creature in the planes, isn't he?

@@mareksicinski449 Im not sure to be honest. Nameless one didnt die and go to hell as lemure or other lesser creature. He was kinda transported there instantly. It looks like he is as he was during fight with mortality. So that means he has his entire arsenal of powers of thousands lifes. I cant see anyone other than Lord Asmodeus and supreme deities like Moradi or Corellon capable of stopping him. At the end of the game NMO is basically epic level character with access to spells like celestial host, abbyssal fury etc. Then you add knowledge and experienc of your other 1000 lifetimes. He was basically Greater Deity himself and his multi-class levels would probably look like Fighter40/Wizard30/Thief30 if not higher.

@@marekorbo7161TNO fuses with the transcendent one in the best ending. The transcendent one is more or less the god of death. It would take essentially an immortal creature to kill him, as anything that could be killed he could presumably kill rather easily.

@@marekorbo7161 Actually yeah. When you think about it his predicament let him level up enough for this punishment to be a breeze.

Its hard to leave companions, in any dnd game. In nwn modules i have to do it a lot...

Hopefully Tides of Numeria has as much of an epic ending as this is

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that is not quite the definition of tragedy but it is connected to the diea of tragedt