tbh some raps on certain songs are not properly associated with the song itself or it doesn't fit sometimes, but they are necessary. there are idols whose job is to rap y'all

1. "No hate though" and their opinion is nothing but hate. Yeah, sure Jan. 2. Sexy concepts as a debut just rub me the wrong way considering how young idols are debuting now. 3. Dear god stop commenting on other people's bodies, people. 4. Raps are necessary. They can be poorly placed within songs but they're still necessary. 5. Everyone's taste is different and I don't understand why more people don't understand this. It's weird. 6. There are toxic stans literally everywhere and people need to stop acting like it's a localized thing to one particular area. 7. "Underrated" after Mamamoo just came back and completely obliterated their own records. Like... make that make sense. 8. People trying to say that a group "fell off" is just strange to me. It's not like one comeback that didn't land exactly perfect is going to toss a group into nugudom. 9. Aaaaaand finally, Blackpink are at the mercy of their company like almost every other idol in the industry and they likely have no control over when they have comebacks or how often. K-pop stans need to relax.

People really be saying 'no hate' and then proceed to say the most toxic and offensive things And then end it with " well that's my opinion "...🙄

About sexy concept we're not saying we're looking for a sexy minor. No, that's not what we're suggesting. Yes, there were times where idols were exploited but not all of them. I mean look at sistar, they're known for their sexy concepts but they didn't start it until Dasom became an adult. And looking the way Hyolyn is still doing it even after starting her own agency shows that they used to do it because they were into it. That's what we mean when we say we want sexy concepts. Sexy doesn't always mean derogatory, it can be empowering too

being able to separate your feelings from reality is a thing some stans gotta learn. sometimes you can say you just don't vibe with a group or song and not have to make up justifications for it. the idea that whatever you're critiquing has to have some inherent fault for you to feel ok abt not reacting positively to it is... concerning.

the third one is so true, so like are you saying they were ugly before they gained weight? people should stop commenting on someone's body unless its actually a health concern.

I 100% agree on the BLACKPINK opinion (and all the rest, surprisingly!) - I think the stans have said the girls are being mistreated for so long they want a new narrative and I really can't blame them... You're right though, what do we know? None of us know them personally

There is no such thing as an ugly idol. Being good-looking is literally part of their job description. Now, a particular idol's good looks may not be to a particular person's taste, but that does not cancel out said idol's good looks. All idols are good looking. No hate, though. XD

There are raps that downgrade the quality of a song, so I disagree that raps are never unnecessary. Why add a piece of bad writing that doesn't fit the rest of the song? That's unnecessary. People accept whatever crap they get as long as they feel the line distribution was fair. Rap wouldn't be unnecessary if it actually upgraded the song.

oh my god i agree with number seven to bits. i saw someone say that itzy was underrated, that cherry bullet was nugu. i have another pointless opinion, “ you can’t defend and idol since you don’t know them so have to believe the victim. “ well guess what? you don’t know the victim either.

About 02:40, if we’re talking about the quality of the song here, yes, I see no problem in that. A problem in the kpop community (not a big one, there are much more serious and problematic stuff in this community) is that kpop stans tend to put fairness above quality.

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The 3rd opinion is true , kpop stans need to stop commenting on idols bodies . Its weird that they assume that their happier and healthier because they gained weight. And to add on the 5th opinion I find it weird when people write these long essays on why they didn’t like a song and why others shouldn’t like it , what happened to if you don’t like a song then skip it and move on with your day 😂 International kpop stans like to act like saints but let’s be real we just as toxic as knetz we just don’t want to take accountability so we rather just blame knetz

Istg this isn't even the worst part, I saw groups of people chatting in the comments of twitter saying how "underrated" blackpink's vocals are.

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Seventeen…….underrated……..???????????? They must be living under a rock

the "dreamcatcher is underrated" opinion in particular annoys me because dreamcatcher aren't underrated, they're simply niche. not everyone likes pop rock/pop punk. unless there is some sort of radical polar shift in popular music taste in the next week, dreamcatcher will never be hugely popular as long as they keep their sound, and idk why their fans can't accept that.

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"the rappers can't sing so you can't say the rap was unnecessary" well maybe the companies should stop hiring untalented people just because they're good-looking and then make them rappers because they suck at singing... the songs are overflowing with unfitting rap verses and it's almost never executed well so yeah. i would rather the "rappers" get no lines than ruin the song structure

on your 4th opinion: i think the reason this opinion is so prevalent is bc rapping rarely works in kpop, and hence people want groups without rappers. most kpop rappers aren't realllllly passable rappers either. the idea of the "all rounder group" or "all rounder idol" was popular in late 3rd gen to now, but now people are getting tired of it. we don't need groups where they sing and rap and dance. we don't need people that can do everything. what's the point of doing some many things if you can't nail any of them. it's better to be specialized at only one thing than try to include rappers and raps in your group because you want to make it "balanced"

Blackpink one actually makes like the saying "actions speak more than words" would apply to that since the way they been performing and I'm pretty sure they cannot leave until their contract is up so jist because they might've had passion before doesn't mean they have it now things change they don't just stay the same all the time

People ask for the sexy concept back, but they don't know that so many nugu & popular sexy concept girl group songs released between 2011-2020, and there's so many songs. People should just look up on the many old sexy concept songs of disbanded girl groups, so that they can at least appreciate old sexy concepts, so they don't have to say *Bring Back Sexy Concepts*

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Great job I’m with you

for opinion #4, yes I would prefer for an idol to have no lines and to just be a backup dancer if that means I can fully enjoy a song without worrying abt having to skip their horrific rap

about the rap parts like maybe the song needed a better rap with a different delivery but ofc the rap is needed for the rapper to have lines

opinion 5: songs CAN be objectively-ish bad. yes musical enjoyment is subjective, but music, like many other arts, has parameters for what is considered good and what isn't. overprocessing, bad mixing, lack of cohesion in either production or lyrics, the overuse of gimmicks/trends, etc these are all things that can and often do make music bad. now you can enjoy a bad song and don't let anyone stop you from doing it! but yes songs can be bad. i disagree w u there

I feel I agree with most of the things you said great video but I feel the whole k fans and I fan it’s something that’s sorta true it’s just we have bad fans but I feel they have a little more if anyone is curious I’ll explain more

I agree with alll you ate ❤

Ikr specially the rap part

9. then there's literally somi who hasn't had a comeback in a little too long 💀💀

I personally dislike sexy concepts in kpop because if they aren't directed by the idols themselves then they usually come from an ill intention. It 9/10 times isn't about being confident and exploring your sexuality but instead is for men to thirst at and results in a lot of toxic discussions where the idols are talked about like objects and are only loved for their bodies, and as you said the idols can be exploited and harrassed from performing in this concept. That's why I only trust groups like (G)I-DLE with this concept because they know what they're doing.

Ok I will just like to say I also said I didn't like sneakers or dice But I didn't meant it as a fact like "this song is not listenable and no one can like it" I said it in a way that I know people have different opinions and one of those opinion is mine which is I don't like it And I am sure most of the people say it in the same way. And why do I even bother to mention such a thing? Becuz I want my fav to release better music And let them have idea that some didn't like it I mean if people are gonna appreciate every freaking beat thier fav release than music won't matter anymore and they kpop will be filled with random noises.

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I think there are some exceptions to the fact that Korean Stan’s are a little more toxic and I guess you can just blame that on cultural differences, but I’ve seen Korean stans really be over the top to the point it’s kind of annoying and it’s not even just about dating rumors, like an idol yawns during an interview I can guarantee you Korean stans would be pissed and call the idol disrespectful I’ve seen it, where as western stans I feel can sympathize more and understand that despite the perfect fantasy surrounding an idol that they are in fact human, like what they would consider a scandal in Korean is kids stuff or non existent here in the west, and I think that’s what creates this toxic vs non toxic fan behavior conversation.

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2:36 ahaha that's me!! I just don't like rap, so I would like if there was no rapper position.

3,4 and 5 makes total sense.

Seventeen isn't underrated. They just forgettable, at least in my country🥲 Agree about the fell off. Those song maybe not people's choices but that not means they're fell of just because one of that.

This one was lit

nah cus i saw a short that said i hate nmixx dice (no hate!) girly what

Spoke nothing but facts as always

i agree with the sexy concept one

raps... some are unnecessary but that is just because the lyrics and flow are not fitting in the song. i think some raps can be changed to a more smoother line. they say opinions like this because they think in that way. the fans think that the rap was unnecessary because it did sound unnecessary. i feel like some raps should've been made more carefully. mostly when the idol whose rapping doesn't quite fit the vibe of the rap. give the member a fitting line that best matches their concept and flow. that will make the rap much better.

ummm didnt you say on your new video that Antfrangile was the worst some in 2022

#4 yes most of these "Rappers" need to retire

International stans can be really terrible

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For number 5, since you said music taste is subjective, it then means that saying a song is "good" should then follow the same logic as a song is "bad". Or you meant that for only for those who find a song bad ?

Okay but why did I agree with all of themm

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unpopular opinion : we should credit lee sooman for introducing kpop to the world

U are the same person who called anti fragile hot garbage and the worst comeback this year but we are not allowed to say sticker an actual bad song the worst song to ever exist lol