Oh look, it’s a pinned comment! Here’s a link to the last video on the subject: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/fmOjopmvnWqA02w.html And in pinned comment tradition, here’s some extra info! I had noticed a hole in the base of the kerosene lantern similar to those on the other lamps which you insert the matches through. I thought this was silly and probably just the result of the same tooling being used for multiple models, but it turns out that if I had purchased the lantern new, it would have come with a special bottle with a spout designed to fit through that hole and fill the pre-heater cup. Neat! Still, though. Rough. If you’re wondering what the dual-fuel model looks like when running gasoline, well I’ll add a clip of that in the Connextras video which I still have to make. Though I will say now that it’s not particularly special or anything. I’ve got a busy day ahead of me outside of UKposts so that’ll happen tomorrow most likely. And in that video we’ll address whatever other questions might come up today.

Technology Connections should sell merch printed with "Through the magic of buying two of them..." And sell items entirely in pairs.

"Through the magic of buying two of them…" Never change, Mr Brown Jacket Man

I have some knowledge here, and I feel qualified enough (at least somewhat,) to hopefully shed some light on why all three fuel types still exist in lanterns, and camp stoves for that matter. Propane is very convenient, and easy to use, you get close to the same light output as white gas, but is much more user friendly. Disposing of the green bottles, and carrying them out with you, can be a pain. If you camp (or live for that matter,) in cooler climates, propane begins to stop vaporizing, and freezes up around 40° F. "Enter in the white gas lanterns/stoves" They put out more light, and (once you know, and are familiar with the lighting process,) can be lit VERY easily. They are also DEAD RELIABLE (to certain temps, we'll touch on that in a bit,) my wife and I (yes, she is willing, and enjoys it almost as much as I do,) have on multiple occasions relied on these white gas tools, in situations where if they did not work, we would have been in serious danger. Without hesitation, I know I can call on my lanterns. I can plop my lanterns down, in the snow, in - 20° weather, and light it, and by that light, light my stove, get hot water/food cooking, and pitch my tent, or dig my snow cave. I have and will continue to rely on my white gas equipment to save my biscuits. So what might you ask, is the kerosene useful for then? Even colder Temps. White gas still functions at -40°, but less reliably, and not as bright/hot, we'll say less energetically. Much below that, and it gets fairly unreliable. Kerosene lanterns, and stoves function just about everywhere on earth. In the 1920's when Mallory and Irvine attempted to summit Everest, and in the 1950's when Hillary and Norgay summited, they relied on kerosene stoves. The least user friendly, but arguably the most reliable of the three. I am not scientific enough, to explain why, whether it be the process of preheating that does it, or if it's in its chemistry, kerosene, in its simplicity is just about as reliable as anything can be. I suppose it's also worth noting that white gas or kerosene lanterns/stoves (they function on the same principal, and are mechanically very similar,) can be rebuilt with spare parts, or taken apart, cleaned, reassembled, and lit, in a few minutes, because of their simplicity, adding to their reliability. Admittedly, albeit embarrassing, my lanterns all have names, and are greatly cherished. I am not a scientist, or necessarily a professional, but do have a great deal of experience in cold weather camping/fun activities, and have a great beard (so I am automatically more knowledgeable in outdoor activities.) To anyone who read my novel of a comment, I owe you, a sincere Thank You. - Scott Edit: the minus sign on -40 ended up being separated by a space, putting it on a different line. It was fixed, so as to cause less confusion.

One of the enjoyable side effects of the heat output which I learned in the Army during field maneuvers was what we called "the Coleman chair". Place one of the lanterns under the seat of a metal folding chair. Place a thin piece of fabric over the seat and then sit down. In a tent at 3 AM in the late fall it gets very cold in there. This setup warms the body nicely, we always had several officers waiting their turn.

"unless you want to tell a knock-knock joke" Knock Knock Whos' there? PISTON NUMBER 4

"This is a gaslighting video." "no it's not"

The hiss of Coleman lanterns and stoves is a treasured memory from childhood. The reason that it's so unique is because of the "large" hollow tubes downstream from the metering orifice. You're hearing the same effect that is used in loudspeakers, how you get a siren that can be heard miles away from a diaphragm 2 inches across.

When I was a little kid, more than half a century ago, we had a cabin without electricity. Dad would light the kero pressure lamp with a couple of pumice stones attached with a spring to the bottom of the lamp, under the mantle. The stones used to live in a sealed jar of metho. It's the sound of the lamp that I remember the most, along with the little ritual of pumping it up and lighting the stones, then the sudden burst of bright light as the mantle took hold.☺

"Unless you wanna tell a knock-knock joke" The comedic value of this line is criminally underrated

"...and also, I have a fire extinguisher ready over there ... this time." He set his house on fire. He definitely set his house on fire.

Just a couple of things from someone that serviced Coleman Lanterns and stoves for 15+ years.... *Older models had the "clean-out" mechanism separate from the gas valve (normally located 180 degs from the valve). *And the most common problem that I found with Coleman lanterns..... spiders! Yes, spiders. Or more specifically, spider webs. Spiders would often find the air tube (the tube that the generator fits into) a convenient place to hide/nest.... the air tube would often be clogged (or at least clogged enough to prevent sufficient airflow). Upon first lighting of a lantern with this problem, it will burst into flames (3' high or more). The air/fuel mixture will be wrong. To fix, just take it apart and clean it or if you have set it on fire (assuming you got it shut off, didn't burn yourself, and didn't burn down the forest/building around you) you can just put new mantels on it (likely they will be blown out/off/destroyed when it caught fire), clean the carbon off top and globe, and light it (the second time it will likely light without any problem, the fire very effectively cleaning out the tube and restoring airflow).

Oh, my - this brought back some memories of taking my life in my hands while trying to light Coleman lanterns on a bass boat in the dark when I was a kid. I'm surprised I didn't blow myself to Jupiter more than once. Those things put out a hell of a lot of light for a long time, but lighting them is always terrifying.

"Forced my lute" just feels like an inside joke now lol

Regarding Thorium mantles, another safety aspect is the dust generated when old mantles are removed from the lamp, you don't wanna be inhaling that stuff!

Grew up in Florida in a wood frame house . This was in the late 60's . It was cold in Florida back then . Kerosene heaters . A few white gas camp stoves . Fuel the white gas camp stove outside . Pump it up , open the valve . Stand back a few feet throwing a lit match at it . Woosh ! Life was good back then .

Thank you for these videos. I was raised with them on the farm in the 1950's and early '60's. At bed-time my grandparents would hand me a lit table lamp and send me upstairs to bed with an admonition to "blow it out" before going to sleep. What was normal then would get someone incinerated and/or jailed if we let today's 10 year olds try. If memory serves, we called the fuel "coal oil". The pressure lanterns were used for lighting larger rooms and for outdoor use.

I know it’s been like a month, but I still laugh at the ‘Deitz Nuts’ part of the Hurricane lantern episode

"through the magic of buying two of them" will never get old. I look forward to it. As much as l looked forward to Bob Ross cleaning off his brush and saying "beat the devil out of it". Makes me smile every time.

I have a collection of Dietz and Coleman lanterns. The sound of the Coleman is one of the signature attributes of tailgate camping for me. Reminds me of great times with my dad and family. Thanks for all your videos. These lantern episodes have tied alot of camp tech ends together. Keep all of them coming. Cheers!

It's about time I added my "Paraffin Pressure Lamp" notes. I am a Scout Leader (still) in London and, because of COVID, we haven't done much camping recently, but when we did, we use 'Paraffin Pressure Lamps' - specifically 'Tilley' Lamps. We have lots of them, mostly acquired from other Scout Groups who no longer use them. I'll mention the specific idiosyncrasies of the Tilley lamp in a moment. When I rejoined the Scout movement in the late eighties with my current Troop, I found a whole bunch of Tilley lamps in (mostly) poor repair, but along with them were four lamps I had never seen before. Turns out they were Coleman Type 639's - Coleman 'Kerosene Pressure Lamps' - very, very similar to the type TC is demonstrating towards the end of the video. Turns out they were brilliant lamps - much quieter than Tilleys, more economical and much more reliable. The only thing was.....the taking apart thing. I later learned that in new 639's there was a small, polythene bottle with a copper tube spout with a hooked end. With it (I never had one) you could fill the heater cup - we use methylated spirits, the mauve stuff - without taking the whole lamps to bits. From there it was a simple matter of lighting the heater, waiting until it had almost burned away, pressurising the tank and opening the fuel valve. Voila! There was light and you could see for rudy miles! Lovely lamps, but they stopped making them years ago and spares are hard or impossible to come by. Now, Tilley lamps. Tilley's were the 'latest camping technology when I was a Scout in the fifties. Mostly we used 'Hurricane Lamps' - like TC's Deitzes - with a few Tilleys for main lighting. They were a million times brighter than the flat wick types, but they were very, very hot. I believe the burner runs at about 450 C. The current model - the X246 (sold at nearly $200 nowadays - is almost exactly the same as the models we used in 1958! It has no heater cup, instead uses a clip on wick type, stored in the provided small, glass jar full of 'Meths'. This clips round the vapouriser (the stem) and when lit, heats a rather clever dome shaped 'boiling chamber' up under the cap. To start, the fill valve (the pump body basically) is left open and the control valve fully closed. The wick is lit and allowed to burn until about to go out. Then, quickly, close the fill valve, pump about ten good strokes and carefully open the control valve. A good one will light straight away, but many more will 'pop' and sputter and misbehave. With a bit of fiddling with the control valve and a few more pumps, the lamp should light, often with an audible 'pop'. The mantle will often be orange with black spots, but given a few moments, a bit more fuel pressure and a few, very quick 'close and open' actions with the control valve, the relight will 'pop' any soot off the mantle, clear the jet and should then run cleanly. The stem has a long, thin 'pricker' inside, pushed by a cam in the control valve which cleans out the tiny jet at the top of it and completely shuts off the fuel when closed. Now for a rant about the price of paraffin (kerosene) in the UK. For many years paraffin was sold in hardware stores for all sorts of uses, mainly portable heaters and its price was never an issue. In recent years the ONLY source of paraffin was in garden centres, in four litre plastic bottles. No matter what the price of diesel fuel was (paraffin is very close to diesel but without the additives) the price of 'paraffin was £2.00 /litre! £10 a gallon almost. That means I could put almost two litres of PREMIUM diesel in my Land Rover for a litre of filthy garden centre paraffin. My Scout Troop now use 'Light Heating Oil' - basically very clean, water free paraffin by any other name (when I can get it) for less than half the price! Very interesting vlog, close to my heart! We use Tilleys to make our camp 'a blaze of light' compared to miserable, cold LED lantern lights in other camps.

"You need not ONLY to take this apart.... You'll need some ALCOHOL on hand!" Pretty much describes ALL of my PC repairs. 😂

"And through the magic of buying two of them", will never get old

This has really brought my attention to why sun light hours used to be such a big deal

That "whooshing" sound was THE sound of camping in the 1960's when I grew up!

I much prefer "the magic of buying two of them" to "the magic of jump cuts."

"I have a fire extinguisher ready over there... THIS TIME." I'm really disappointed in the lack of relevant outtakes.

Camping in the 70s these are what my dad used. To me they are the sound of camping. I have many of them today, and love using them every chance i get. They are nostalgic and remind me of days gone past when basics such as light and heat were not just flicking a switch but required a bit of work, planning and skill.

I'm a product of the early 50s and can remember my dad using these lanterns and burners. Never remember any mishaps fortunately. I love watching your videos they are always so informative and you are such a great presenter. Keep up the good work.

Watching this man slowly perfect his presentation over the years, has been nothing short of exhilarating.

"Gaslighting on the go" My parents just called them vacations

Great video. Thanks for all the info and marvelous presentation. I am from Sri Lanka and we used to have these pressurized kerosene lamps about 40-45 years back as we did not have mains electricity at that time. To us, they were pretty safe for indoor use provided all the precautions are adhered to. They were noisy very hot and, sort of, smelled of kerosene though. we were accustomed to the hissing noise and it was a, sort of, lullaby for us. They were the principal source of light at village festivals, night processions and at funerals etc. The model(s) we used to have are of different construction and far simpler to operate than one demonstrated here. They didn't have to be disassembled like this one but could be started just by injecting some alcohol (wine spirit) using a small squirt can. It was pretty easy though we, being kids, were only allowed to pump air to pressurize the tank prior to lighting, which alone was a special something for us, really,. We used to call them 'Mantel Lamps', 'Petro Lamps' or simply 'Petromax', after the most popular brand. Those days, they were a luxury and only a handful of families could afford the daily use of them and we were lucky. (thanks to my dad) This video, for sure, brought back some sweet nostalgic memories and many thanks for that too.

The memories the sound of a Coleman lantern brings back... Camping and ice fishing when I was little, outdoor parties when I got older...

Please do a series on plasma TV's it seems like a great technology to expand on, modern enough to be relevent but old enough to be defunct, kind of analog, mostly digital. Definitely mysterious how do they work compared to CRT and LED/ OLED only you can help us understand!

"I have a fire extinguisher ready to go right over there... this time." Ono

Such nostalgia. The light and sound of these lanterns in white gas or propane is the sound of my childhood summer vacations.

The thorium mantles may not be very radioactive, BUT, they are alpha emitters. So high care is advisable when dealing with a broken mantle when cleaning up. You DON'T want to ingest alpha emitters in any form. Alpha radiation is easily shielded, but the flipside of this is that they deposit their energy in a very focused area around any emitter you have incorporated. They do a LOT of damage.

The fact that you still have eyebrows is comforting

"Unless you want to tell a Knock Knock joke." Ouch. That joke hurt.

Used all of these type of lamps when I was young. Camping with scouts in a real canvas tent at 10 years old with one of those pump lamps (primus) by the door. We were trusted back then with knives and axes. God I miss the old days.

I love the cute “Pumpy bit.” Actually, growing up with my family, and their love of weekend camping trips to central Florida (Kissimmee State Park/Lake Wales), many of those trips were with the Coleman lamps and the green two-burner stove. I would get so excited to watch my dad/mom set up these up for lighting and cooking. They would let me do the pumpy bit. 😍

"And they don't have any sort of radiation warning on the crust, I mean packaging..." Holy cow, sir. You have reached nerd levels I can only dream about.

"Ask me how I know... hint: this is not my real hair, I've been buying progressively bigger wigs during the pandemic in order to keep the illusion of growth under a lockdown"

Just a few comments to add to the discussion: 1) you appeared to be using drugstore alcohol, which is typically 70% or 91% pure. That means it contains 30% or 9% water. Water does not burn and the process of boiling the water away requires energy, so the amount of heat transferred to the generator during the preheating process is reduced. Medical grade alcohol or denatured alcohol (called methylated spirits outside the US) are recommended. 2) Several brands of pressurized kerosene lanterns such as Petromax, Butterfly, and BriteLyte have a feature that allows the lanterns to be started using the kerosene already in the tank. This preheating option creates an atomized mist of kerosene under pressure that you light with a match. This produces a torch like flame that performs the preheating process. No secondary fuel is required with this method. 3) Propane vs Kerosene. While propane is more convenient to start and use, it is a gas. If the lantern leaks, the propane gas will accumulate near the floor and could cause an explosion if used inside. If a kerosene lantern leaks while stored, you just have a mess. Kerosene does not produce flammable vapors until it hits about 125°F. Kerosene lanterns are used in every country in the world because kerosene, also called paraffin oil, is available everywhere. Even in small remote villages, one can find kerosene. Propane bottles on the other hand are not readily available. 4) kerosene lanterns and cook stoves produce very little carbon monoxide. I burned a kerosene stove for 12 hours in a 300 square-foot room and my digital carbon monoxide detector still showed 0 ppm. Propane and natural gas heaters likewise produce very little carbon monoxide. 5) The three brands of kerosene lanterns I listed above will produce up to 200 W of incandescent light equivalent. That is really too bright for indoor use and as you mentioned, these lanterns are not recommended for use indoors. The lanterns cannot significantly be turned down to produce less light, because then they would not produce enough heat to maintain the process of boiling the kerosene in the generator tube. They are designed to be run at maximum output but can be turned down a little bit if you want.

I watched all 3 of the candle/lamp videos, and enjoyed them all. Thank you! As a 60 y/o man, I have used all of these except the Aladdin. The roar of a Coleman lantern brings me back to camping and late night fishing trips! The sound and smell evokes very fond memories. Thanks!

"Don't put the fuel above the fire" Good advice, even metaphorically.

"Now Comes the Alcohol!" Man, you missed the perfect pun to pull out a gin and tonic.

this may just be nostalgia from camping with my grandpa and growing up with these lanterns.. but i find the sound they make rather comforting.. and i love FIRE so uh thats a bonus to me XD

This video made me go into my garage and grab my Coleman lantern I inherited that I have never seen operate in my lifetime. I oiled the seal and pumped it up, it does hold pressure fine. I started examining it and I noticed the date code on it is 05 of 1973. Wow, that is way older then I ever would’ve thought! I ordered mantles for it and when they show up I’ll dump some gasoline in it (I’m not paying for white gas) and see how it runs. That might just be my new lantern!

“Portable Gaslight”? i didn’t expect you to make a video about my ex

"And don't forget to SMASH THAT LIKE..." This was so beautiful and full of pure energy i rewatched it over and over

We had this when I was a child. When there was a blackout in my area, my dad used this to light up the house instead of candles. (Well, we used candles in the bathroom) I still remember my cousins coming over and when they saw how bright the light was through our window they thought we were not affected by the blackout.

Great video. You really have a way of explaining things and keeping it light with humor at times. The pacing is good and makes your videos fun and educational to watch.

"Gaslighting on the Go" sounds like a slogan for the newest News App.

"Don't put the fuel above the fire" Motorcyclists: Ohh... 🙆🏻‍♂️

I'm a big fan of the Coleman dual fuel burner and lantern. I used to use them when I went hiking even though it can be quite heavy. I found them to be very reliable. I like them so much that I brought one of each to my family in Cuba with a couple of repair kits, and they are still using them after all these years.

The kerosene gas lantern needing the alcohol brings back memories more than 3 decades ago. My grandpa has a few china made model (I think) and uses spirit in a special spout small container to light it up on special nights only. Much thanks for the video, memories and understanding I gain.

Alec: Here’s a package from Amazon! Me: This is gonna be good Alec: Here’s a Geiger counter (crackling starts) Neat! Me: Alec’s become self aware and is going to blow us all up with his combined knowledge of latent heat and the refrigeration cycle!

You are missing an accessory for the Kerosene lantern. If you bought it new, it would have come with an alcohol bottle with a nozzle on it to allow you to fill the alcohol cup without disassembly. Some of the more advanced petromax lanterns, namely Britelyt, have a blowtorch preheater which allows you to preheat the generator without any additional fuel (with some limitations such as if you are running some heavy fuels). This does come at the expense of needing more pumping.

Thank you for the great explanation of the lamps!!! I’ve been using Coleman gear since the late 1960s. Great gear…I have wick lamps in the back up kits…. Like Paul Harvey used to say “now you know the rest of the story”! Glad I found your channel!!!!!

The Tilly lamp noise and burning moths hitting it were the sound of so many camping trips. I like the noise

I don't know if I can trust this channel anymore. There's just so much gaslighting....

Hearing that pressurized sound instantly took me back to those days when our family went camping.

I have been traveling with lanterns and torches for decades and find that the knowledge you share is always useful and valuable.😉

The sound brings back so many childhood memories. We also had the Coleman 3 burner stove and heater.

That slight hold on "shrinkage problem" cracked me up.

“I have no idea why you would ever want one of these unless you had a supply of really cheap kerosene.” The Amish, it’s the Amish and areas that supply them with Kerosene. In Lancaster, PA, gas stations will actually have a separate pump you can get kerosene from for pretty cheap.

I have used these lanterns for years and never understood how they worked ,now I do . Really enjoyed the video. thanks

I accidentally (through the magic of UKposts's algorithms) discovered this channel tonight and I really like it. I enjoy your humorous style. I wonder if the green light produced by one of the lamps has anything to do with the origin of The Green Lantern? I don't know how old that character is or who came up with him. Maybe it was Stan Lee while on a camping trip? Keep up the great work!!!

We used to use Thorium mantles as test sources for low-level radiation "friskers" at a nuclear plant. They could bring them on-site without any issues, however you could not leave site with one as it was now considered as a radiation source.

That whooshing sound you describe "fuels" my camping nostalgia.

Most interesting! I had known about the properties of the mantles. I have the Colman gas double mantle lantern tfhat we have used in our camping and its light and heat was most desireable most of the time. This video reminded me of the gasoline blow torches that I have used and still have. Thanks for the great videos.

This series brought back happy memories of my mom and my dad. Thank you. My mom thought me how to use a hurricane lamp for lighting during rolling power outages in Mexico city in the early 70s and I fondly remember my dad pumping his Coleman gasoline lamp when he took us camping. What a privileged life I had!

A skydiver's parachute failed to open. So he immediately pulled the ripcord of his reserve chute, and that failed to open as well. As he was falling to the earth, he came across a guy that was flying up from the ground. So the skydiver that was going down yelled to the guy that was going up, "Hey, do you know anything about parachutes?" The guy going up yelled back, "No, but do you happen to know anything about Coleman stoves?"

I would like to give some recognition to the subtitles, not only are they custom but they are hilarious. I don't need them and I always have them on for the extra layer of comic relief 😊

I thoroughly enjoyed this informative series and just love your delivery. Keep up the good work!

Truly excellent! Thank-you!

"Octane rating of 50" sounds great for an internal to external combustion engine swap

That Coleman kerosene lamp rant is exactly why I love watching. Random bouts of passion make the videos interesting (:

I really love how you can always go deeper in each of this usually boring subjects =) Great channel

If you don't want to be irradiated finish school. Very important part of what I learned with this video. Thank you Sir

"Ask me how I know!" - the words of a man who's been burned before.

9:08 That wooshing sound is the sound of my childhood and is full of nostalgia for me. I grew up using pressure and propane lamps for camping and we often turned them on at the end of a busy day to play nighttime games like "hide and seek", "kick the can", "dot-dot", and "capture the flag". That sound was great for covering the sound of whispers and footsteps while we were sneaking around.

Come back to these flame lighting videos so often as a comfort watch because I love this era of tech and you do such a fantastic job covering it. Would love to see you cover similar ideas used for camping stoves like the Optimus 8r.

Fascinating subject matter, well portrayed, some nice bits of humor and body language while being informative! 5 stars, and a hearty well done!

the joy he expresses when saying “through the magic of buying two of them” was more entertaining than the meme itself

"Gaslighting on the go" would be a great Tumblr name.

7:50. That´s the exact model of stove that I once watched going into runaway. Entertaining, certainly, fun, less so.

Going over the history of these things is often fascinating. (Big fan of history of science and technology). Thanks.

"Ask me how I know!!!!!" I'd LOVE to see the outtakes and the mistakes on this one!

I feel like telling you every video: You are extremely talented as a presenter. I'm not sure if it's just me but your sense of humor is delightful and really cracks me up always. :)

Love my little Coalman Peak stove. Just had to replace the rubber pump cap with a new leather one and now it works even better than new.👍😁

We used Coleman lanterns similar to those at Scout camps, but they had an extra knob that was use at start up. One particularly cold and wet arrival to camp our fearless leader proceeded to light the lantern on the tailgate of his Surburban so we would have light to set up camp by. Turning on the valve and getting out his butane cigarette lighter, first attempt lighter blew out, second too, third time lucky? The liquid gas went up in a ball of flame out the top of the lantern. He pulled back quickly, dragging the lantern off the tailgate and onto the ground, where upon the flaming lantern continued to roll across the ground and under the back end of his vehicle! After scrambling around, him cursing and yelling, and us laughing he dragged it out crawling around on the ground in the pouring down rain. The headlights of the vehicle came in handy to replace the now damaged mantle.

I think "Through the magic of buying two of them!" has to be my favorite running joke on this channel.

You are intensely likeable. Also your theme music gives me nostalgia for TV music from my childhood. This puts you in a strange Venn diagram crossover with Captain Disillusion in my mind.

Noticed the T-shirt, I remember the days before Fuji was a 'thing' long before they sold color negative film in the USA. Coleman gas lanterns & cook stoves are a must have for any home. Thanks for the memories.

Bardzo ciekawie przedstawiona historia i zasada działania lamp. ♥

"gaslighting on the go" Also known as a smartphone.

2008 in Afghanistan we had an oil lamp with fuel above the flame for heat in one of our guard sheds. I almost started a fire on multiple occasions, but someone else beat me to it. Good thinking tossing the radios out the window before running, but he should have also thrown our missile launchers (AT4) out as well before evacuating.

This series has proven to be the best iinformatiom that contributes to my camping experience . I'll stick to the batteries thank you very much .