Pretend That You Love Me

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Joel Haver

Joel Haver

3 роки тому

A film about dating, love, art and pain.
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@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
I've been working on this film for almost a year now and am beyond excited to finally share it. It is a deeply personal film and I hope it can offer people some sort of catharsis like it has for me. The film will be available here, for free, indefinitely, I understand if you choose to come back and watch it some other time. Thanks for your time and, as always, if you make a movie I'll watch it too. EDIT: Thank you for all the lovely comments, I’m reading them all and doing my best to respond. I recommend watching the movie before reading the comments as they might give too much away.
@KeegansLife
@KeegansLife 3 роки тому
I love this movie so much. Forget forest gump, this is my favorite now.
@interwebbs1
@interwebbs1 3 роки тому
This is an excellent film, you should be very proud.
@Beginnerss
@Beginnerss 3 роки тому
Far too relatable/desirable movie. Seeing this made me realize how much i still have to improve. Thank you and screw you! My poor comfort zone.
@christopher6600
@christopher6600 3 роки тому
I just stumbled upon one of your shorts tonight, binged watch a bunch of your other shorts, and then came across this. I genuinely wasn't sure what to expect, or if I was even willing to dedicate an hour and a half towards watching this. I'm glad that I did. Holy shit, dude. I'm blown away. I have felt things in the last hour and a half that I haven't felt in years. And I have felt other feelings that I have never felt before in my life, with the realization that I should have let myself feel these things years ago as well. Goddamn. Absolutely brilliant. Thank you for making this, sincerely. I look forward to seeing the rest of your work, and whatever you make in the future.
@samuelclaessens7699
@samuelclaessens7699 3 роки тому
I love this movie. Absolutly amazing Joel! I saw it yesterday and I’m thinking about this movie the whole time! I only know you 3 days sinse I got the ‘NPC’ video recommended and I started watching you and your dads stuff and I fell in love with this channel! I discovered your dad was dead in this movie and I saw his Snapchat stuff... I’m really sad about it even though I didn’t even know your dad personally! I can see how you are so funny, your personality seems based on his! Amazing... sorry I’m saying this like I know you or something but I just wanted to say these things in one comment🙃 You deserve every follower! KEEP UP THE GREAT CONTENT!!!!
@esterhammerfic
@esterhammerfic 3 роки тому
Also: the women who were in this were either a) fantastic actors or b) willing to put themselves in an emotionally vulnerable place for a guy's film about his own loneliness, either way they should be applauded
@ZomboyFever
@ZomboyFever 3 роки тому
Do you know if theyre actually actors?
@esterhammerfic
@esterhammerfic 3 роки тому
@@ZomboyFever if they weren't before, they are now, this is a real film
@carvman217
@carvman217 3 роки тому
@@esterhammerfic beautiful way to put it
@levimatulis6955
@levimatulis6955 3 роки тому
They are actors because you can see the microphone transmitter packs in their back pockets at certain moments.
@Sebbir
@Sebbir 3 роки тому
@@levimatulis6955 i know its unlikely but it could just be that the girls agreed to let him record the date before hand
@droughdough
@droughdough Рік тому
Joel, I was friends with my partner for years. I knew she was the one after we watched this together and she turned to me with tears in her eyes and said it was beautiful. (Obviously I knew well before that but that solidified our shared appreciation of meta-narratives and appreciation of different kinds of love.) So thanks for giving me a two hour conversation about this film with the person I love.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver Рік тому
That’s really beautiful and special, thank you for sharing. I wish both of you the best❤️
@Horzinicla
@Horzinicla 6 місяців тому
Is everything going well?❤
@HonsHon
@HonsHon 5 місяців тому
​@Horzinicla nah he messaged me directly, and he said she wouldn't get out on that ice with him. Since only real couples do that, he snapped and attempted to throw her off a bridge. She climbed back up though and he tried to play it off as a joke. But, she wasn't buying it. Sad times honestly.
@NonSoSmartPerson
@NonSoSmartPerson 3 місяці тому
@@HonsHon Am I high
@purple_ray88
@purple_ray88 2 місяці тому
wtf@@HonsHon
@BigJoel
@BigJoel 2 роки тому
Jesus Christ man this is an incredible film and you should be so proud!!!
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
Joel! It’s definitely one of my works I’m proudest of. Thanks so much for giving it your time, it means a lot to have another Joel watch it❤️
@vassilidario8029
@vassilidario8029 2 роки тому
Love to see the two best Joels being supportive of each other
@BigJoel
@BigJoel 2 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver :-)
@mjr_schneider
@mjr_schneider 2 роки тому
You just relate to it because it's about a Joel. Jk I relate to it too and I'm not even a Joel.
@manamejeffbeezos1238
@manamejeffbeezos1238 2 роки тому
OMG my two favourite joels, boys support boys, and joels support joels.
@ToomanyFrancis
@ToomanyFrancis 3 роки тому
"I'm not sure if this is too soon, but, do you wanna see a magic trick?" That's definitely going in the arsenal.
@Mactakun
@Mactakun 3 роки тому
The care package
@Squishito
@Squishito 3 роки тому
The loadout
@Anachronixhiphop
@Anachronixhiphop 3 роки тому
That line got me!
@milkgotzgames
@milkgotzgames 2 роки тому
That was genius plus humor gets the ladies hyped especially if you look like a confident fool
@natureclips5849
@natureclips5849 2 роки тому
Best way to date a girl: hire a bunch of models to make a film.
@NoahReadsSlowly
@NoahReadsSlowly 3 роки тому
I feel like I shouldn’t be watching this. Like this is someone’s private footage. But I also feel like I shouldn’t be watching this because it’s my footage. Ya know.
@cameronstrommen1714
@cameronstrommen1714 3 роки тому
at first I thought this was going to be Lo-Fi music and when it wasn't I was going to change it but something drew me in maybe it was the amateur film style but the more I watched it the more questions I had but I don't know what kind of questions to ask to resolve my curiosity whatever this was meant to be you nailed it.
@wudly9195
@wudly9195 3 роки тому
I cant relate. I haven't had a girlfriend in forever
@NoahReadsSlowly
@NoahReadsSlowly 3 роки тому
@@wudly9195 I’ve been single for almost 4 years brother. Feels bad man
@Dolphin._.
@Dolphin._. 3 роки тому
@@NoahReadsSlowly try 11 years. Step yo game up, kiddo! 😎
@Ceelker
@Ceelker 3 роки тому
@@Dolphin._. Try 24. Rookie.
@kait711
@kait711 Рік тому
This film is absolutely incredible. Never have I been so suspended in disbelief at acting, to the point that I’m still questioning what was real and what was scripted. I even cried, which I haven’t done for a film in like a decade. Beautiful.
@colinstevens2462
@colinstevens2462 Рік тому
This man didn't watch Paddington 2
@mathcas4932
@mathcas4932 11 місяців тому
@@colinstevens2462 I doubt I’ll ever think about Joel the same way after learning about this
@jguitar151
@jguitar151 2 роки тому
There’s no way you didn’t just actually fall in love with the Spanish woman irl. That connection seemed so genuine
@Neoriujin
@Neoriujin Рік тому
Hell I fell in love with her a little lol
@goodbye3771
@goodbye3771 Рік тому
fr tho
@femaldavid
@femaldavid 3 роки тому
Honestly the fact that he's coming back almost a year later to read comments shows how much he cared for this piece. From watching the comedy bits I definitely wasn't expecting to see a whole movie, but I couldn't be more satisfied that this video exists.
@RedHairdo
@RedHairdo 3 роки тому
He cares a lot about most, if not all, of his pieces, though. He still is going back to read comments on all of them. I'm sure now that his channel is blowing up, this will become harder and harder... But best of luck to him. The recognition is well-deserved.
@bigflx2754
@bigflx2754 3 роки тому
Almost a year? 6 months is almost year 🤔 but Ye it is pretty cool that he still is reading the comments
@zh9664
@zh9664 3 роки тому
@@bigflx2754 yeah, "almost a year" bruh it was 6 months... thats half and half is no where near "almost"
@tylerdurden629
@tylerdurden629 3 роки тому
7 months is not a year
@zh9664
@zh9664 3 роки тому
@@tylerdurden629 your original comment was "7 months is not a year, dumbass"
@oldman6688
@oldman6688 3 роки тому
FUCK, I just realized that "Pretend That You Love Me" is a paraphrase of what you told the actresses before filming. So many layers Joel.
@Ziqohth
@Ziqohth 3 роки тому
damn you're right 🤯
@illestvillain1971
@illestvillain1971 3 роки тому
Maybe
@deadtotheworld
@deadtotheworld 3 роки тому
God tear
@joanduthie1689
@joanduthie1689 3 роки тому
@@deadtotheworld tier
@deadtotheworld
@deadtotheworld 3 роки тому
@@joanduthie1689 thanks
@MattQuigley
@MattQuigley Рік тому
I am completely and utterly floored by this film. I doubt that Joel will ever see this comment (what with the count being up to 5k as I'm typing this), but one can still hope he does. Given the bits and pieces I've gleaned from various videos, I'm guessing Joel was 23 to 24 when he made this. With that in mind, it is an exceptionally sophisticated and shockingly well-executed piece. I'm aware of his dedication to the democratizing power of contemporary technology for shooting, editing, and distributing films, and the way he implores others to just do it. I had no idea, however, that among his numerous terrific and inspired collaborative sketches resided work of this poignance and profundity. Films about themselves are a tricky needle to thread and can so easily be a pretentious slog. Fellini nailed it 60 years ago and countless directors have fallen on their faces attempting similar feats since. I was very conscious early on that I was being reminded I was watching a film, but the piece does this -- with visible microphone packs and cutaways to webcam quality images and a great many carefully composed and stylized shots -- while sharing some of the most breathtakingly intimate moments that will ever occur in its director's life. When the musical number came in, I cried for the first time. Partially because it hits as a sincerely plaintive wail as the film flips from its ostensibly "naturalistic"/"voyeuristic" perspective to an inescapably cinematic one. In this moment where it brazenly announces that it's a film, beyond any dispute, it also delivers its first of many moments of nearly unbearably raw and real emotion. It takes a deft directorial touch to pull off that sort of thing and Joel definitely makes it look deceptively easy. And this he does while starring in the damned thing and acting his ass off. As a lifelong New Yorker I'll forever have a soft-spot for (good) films made here and he used his locations beautifully. His shot composition can be so evocative and moving, leaving you forgetting at times that you're watching a zero budget, effectively point and shoot film primarily featuring a series of static shots. Again, in the wrong hands this would be interminable, but here it's more frequently than not simply beautiful. I'm in my early-50s now and just lost my old man back in August of '21, but I lost my mother when I was 23, which I believe is how old Joel was when he lost his father. Our relationship was a bit different, but incredibly close. She also died after a long battle with cancer. She died during a time in my life of rather pronounced highs and lows -- perhaps the most extreme in this regard of any period before or since -- and through it all I remained lost and lonely and desperately searching, throwing myself into art (my band had just signed a sizable contract with a major label), and some other less constructive activities and distractions. Thing is, it is only with the benefit and wisdom of hindsight that I can recognize what I went through then. This makes the clarity with which Joel expresses his longing, confusion, loneliness, and loss here all the more astounding to me. This is truly a work so wise beyond its creator's years that even he may only realize to what degree in the decades to come. Okay - This isn't frigging Letterboxd, so I really should just shut up. I love that this thing could easily have done the festival circuit, or whatever, but by putting it here it has reached a far greater audience -- both in size and sympathy -- than it likely ever could have done via that route. In so many ways this film makes Joel's whole approach to filmmaking not merely inspiring in spirit, but in execution. I can see in the comments he's left here that he is proud of this, as he damned well should be.
@Blorckits
@Blorckits 9 місяців тому
It is still at 5k lol
@chrisoffersen
@chrisoffersen 8 місяців тому
Thank you for the insightful perspective on this film. Not being an artist, I don’t have the language to express how great-art makes me feel other than “wow. Observations like yours give me some tools to better understand where these emotions are coming from. Thanks again.
@Travis_DeGee
@Travis_DeGee 7 місяців тому
It's like the only one he didn't heart
@MattQuigley
@MattQuigley 3 місяці тому
I'm sure he just missed the comment... Right guys?! Right?! Joel Haver doesn't hate my awesome, heartfelt comment (that received 134 likes), does he? DOES HE?!
@minerman60101
@minerman60101 2 місяці тому
@@MattQuigley if you edit a comment it removes the heart... you may have accidentally done yourself in there without realizing
@billymilgate9706
@billymilgate9706 Рік тому
This is probably my 4th time watching this film, I seem to always come back to it when a moment in my life has some sort of similarity to the film, and I find it really comforting. This film has such a wild way of capturing a odd style of reality for films involving romance, especially in comparison to other romance films with their fast paced relationships very fictitious ideas of romance. Its just something about the slow burn of events that is really special, the quiet moments where you think the take should've ended and the long pauses are deafening. I really enjoy this film and will come back yet again.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver Рік тому
It’s an honor that you would rewatch my movie four times, thank you Billy. I’m happy that it could provide something worth revisiting for you❤️
@GrandmasterofWin
@GrandmasterofWin 3 роки тому
Jesus. This is so damn vulnerable and honest. It's ironic that Hollywood films are so sterile and impersonal that they can show such high stakes stories and it doesn't phase me emotionally, but just an awkward pause in this has me on the edge of my seat or legitimately uncomfortable. I think the future of honest, human art is going to be online and fragmented. Thankful to live in a time where anyone can make and share a film. Thanks Joel for putting yourself out there. I'm inspired to finish my silly youtube projects now.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
Beautifully put, the future of film is imperfect and human and fully in our hands. It’s such an exciting time to create because the obstacles are less and less external, forcing the artist to look inward to challenge themselves. Thanks for watching. Finish those silly UKposts projects!
@nicklane9032
@nicklane9032 3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver Thank you so so much for all of your creativity and engagement with your audience man :)
@LowdownBoy
@LowdownBoy 3 роки тому
@@nicklane9032 I really want to echo your response. I feel like I could dap him up because he's so personal and emotional. And thanks OP for your artfully put and thoughtful comment.
@whyisthisathing5816
@whyisthisathing5816 3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver please tell me where you buy your shirts
@Noblejimjam
@Noblejimjam 3 роки тому
Besides being an emotional wreck, Joel's sock game is on point for this entire film.
@Evan_C.
@Evan_C. 3 роки тому
Is that some sexual innuendo or a reference to his socks?
@jhakardballoch2986
@jhakardballoch2986 3 роки тому
I think sock game has a direct correlation to sex appeal
@flagretateglaplagar4351
@flagretateglaplagar4351 3 роки тому
@@jhakardballoch2986 No bruh, it's just about his heckin' stylin socks.
@ryandejesus236
@ryandejesus236 3 роки тому
@@flagretateglaplagar4351 l
@LittleFifth
@LittleFifth 2 роки тому
I needed to read this comment it helped dry the tears with laughter
@callmeqt1269
@callmeqt1269 2 місяці тому
Hey, Joel. I’m commenting because your film did a lot for me, and I want to offer something in return. I commented earlier today, but I have something to add (and I don’t think you’d see it in a reply). Your work so moved me that I wrote this poem in response: - I sleep with apparitions While a torrent brews above me. Please, Lie under the cover That you love me. - Also, if you haven’t already, I have to encourage you to listen through Chopin’s Nocturnes (especially op 48 no 1 and op posth no 20, but really all of them). I feel like they tell complementary stories to this one, and I believe 2019-2020 Joel might have needed them. With much love, Sam.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 місяці тому
Thanks for the lovely comment. Lovely poetry, it’s an honor my film could inspire that out of you. I love Chopin and definitely owe myself more time listening to classical music, just listened to Op 48 No 1 and it was lovely. I’ll take a deeper dive into the Nocturnes. Thanks so much!
@callmeqt1269
@callmeqt1269 2 місяці тому
@@Joel-Haver Thank you - can’t wait for the features to come!
@batbite_
@batbite_ 2 роки тому
I find it interesting how well you portray how suffering is overdetermined: One thing doesn't make us suffer, a lot things together does.
@MattMcAwesome12
@MattMcAwesome12 3 роки тому
You lured me in with Marshall, The Town Rat, and sucker-punched me with this. In all seriousness, this was beautiful, man. Movies are always about the boisterous, amplified portions of love stories or life journeys; portrayed as every day needing to be a new chapter when really life is more of an epic. Not enough attention is paid to the small, quiet moments that set the foundation for the actual substance of any type of relationship. Thanks for doing that.
@tadwood8521
@tadwood8521 3 роки тому
The exact same thing happened to me, with the same video. UKposts algorithms work in mysterious ways. I'm glad they lead me here, through.
@guodan.
@guodan. 3 роки тому
same here. damn this was a watch...
@ethanackroyd5944
@ethanackroyd5944 3 роки тому
A crime most foul
@thereisonlycis3566
@thereisonlycis3566 3 роки тому
Yup I watched replaying an rpg last night and instantly subscribed.
@darbiboi4156
@darbiboi4156 3 роки тому
Marshall is a criminal now....
@CloudMolester
@CloudMolester 3 роки тому
This is the type of film I absolutely avoid watching. It's simply too personal, hits too close to home and actually makes you reflect. This is why I avoid these. That was amazing. I wasn't going to sit here and watch the whole thing, but here I am. Awesome work.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
It certainly is not an easy watch and I don't blame anyone who can't make it through. With that said, I'm happy you stuck it out. Thanks for giving the film your time
@gregneal5737
@gregneal5737 3 роки тому
Oh my god I am exactly in the same boat, I thought hey what's this? 1.5hrs later here I am and I haven't cried so much in a film in a long time.... Joel you are absolutely incredible at what you do. That was amazing, and so relatable and honest. I am so glad I watched that and thank you so, so much for making it.
@Bobotv1000
@Bobotv1000 3 роки тому
Very well said , брат
@carsonkoenig9710
@carsonkoenig9710 3 роки тому
Same
@dantonwatson3297
@dantonwatson3297 2 роки тому
This is the type of comment I absolutely avoid reading. It’s simply too personal, hits too close to home and actually makes you reflect. This is why I avoid these. That was amazing. I wasn’t going to sit here and read the whole thing, but here I am. Awesome work.
@GomGommery
@GomGommery 2 роки тому
God I'm glad I dug more into your channel, first it was "Adventure awaits, hazaa!" and now I'm helplessly binging everything that has your name on it, especially your films. I've never met a character quite like you Joel, truly inspirational. Much love.
@granvillesharpe9495
@granvillesharpe9495 2 роки тому
This is where I'm at, too.
@omgitsjay3251
@omgitsjay3251 2 роки тому
Same
@dhiambi6415
@dhiambi6415 Рік тому
same here, an emotional rollercoaster
@bronsondiamond2025
@bronsondiamond2025 Рік тому
Same. I watch more Joel than Cherdley's and friends now. Funny how characters on UKposts can hit an audience so well through cringe relatability alone xD
@humanperson9443
@humanperson9443 7 місяців тому
That’s how the addiction begins
@davidzshit
@davidzshit Рік тому
I lost my dad when I was 18 before high school graduation. I'm 25 now and I haven't been able to cry for a long time now but the part where you're making your speech about the coke and the cloths made me cry. Thanks man it's nice to feel something
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver Рік тому
I’m really sorry to hear about your loss. I’m glad you were able to feel something through the film. I find that the times where I can’t feel are hardest of all. I wish you the best❤️
@davidzshit
@davidzshit Рік тому
@@Joel-Haver Love your vids man, hope all is well
@Bobbyhiddn
@Bobbyhiddn 3 роки тому
The last scene would break me too. "I'm paying for something I deeply desire. This woman is here to fulfill the role I have asked her to play, and she is doing it perfectly. Yet all of this is a lie of my own creation. The best she can do is to continue in the act, yet with every word she says, she drives me further into despair, as I believe her performance." "What do you need to feel good?" I need what you are pretending to be. The kiss was dreadfully, but beautifully painful. Of course we desire that physical intimacy, but the pain of knowing it means absolutely nothing once she leaves is abysmal. "At least you have a sense of humor." "You can't lose that, can you?" Pretend that you love me, until I forget we're pretending. That realization of waking back up is the pain.
@pdfpockethole
@pdfpockethole 3 роки тому
This review is everything I wish I could have said. Thank you.
@motttta
@motttta 3 роки тому
Beautifully put
@heyst13
@heyst13 3 роки тому
God this is a great commentary
@tommyaguirre3479
@tommyaguirre3479 3 роки тому
Micah your analisis on the kiss at the end was so fucking ACCURATE. Great comment man holy crap!
@darklordsteph
@darklordsteph 3 роки тому
Thank you Micah, everytime i read your comment i cry ugly tears because i realize how lonely we all truly are
@ShaneLouisArmstrong
@ShaneLouisArmstrong 3 роки тому
"I have all the shirts now." Just hit really hard emotionally.
@c4n4d4
@c4n4d4 3 роки тому
whats that sensation you get in your throat when youre choked up? Is there a word for it other than choked up?
@Halofreaks9524
@Halofreaks9524 3 роки тому
@@c4n4d4 verklempt seems accurate
@FiLtheThriL
@FiLtheThriL 3 роки тому
I thought he said shorts.
@WatOnsonn
@WatOnsonn 3 роки тому
I first thought this was a joke, then I finished watching the whole film. Damn.
@TomFewchuk
@TomFewchuk 2 роки тому
That's where I started crying
@shabchow8d661
@shabchow8d661 Рік тому
No filmmaker ever made me want to make films as much as Joel does, this is a masterpiece man. Everything he does is awesome.
@The_Irish_Rover
@The_Irish_Rover 3 роки тому
I like this. I feel lonely and I’m scared that everyone I love will die one day. I have autism and I don’t how to talk to people. I’m scared. I cried watching this. I’m going to miss my parents when they pass. You made a good film.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
Thank you so much for watching. Life can be scary and lonely and unpredictable and I really don’t have an answer beyond that it is for everyone. Take comfort in knowing you’re not alone in your uncertainty and don’t be afraid to lean on others when you can and let others lean on you. I wish you well
@The_Irish_Rover
@The_Irish_Rover 3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver thank you.
@knoelle1357
@knoelle1357 3 роки тому
I’m scared, too. I think I understand how you feel. My mom is my best friend and I have always been so scared of losing her, as I feel she is the only person who loves me unconditionally. I feel like I have nobody else. This past October my ex boyfriend died of an overdose, we were each other’s first loves, and we had stayed friends for 17 years, then reconnected in 2018 and started dating again, up until lockdown. I stopped talking to him three months before he died and I regret it horribly. This film felt really cathartic. You’re not alone, if you ever need to talk to someone, let me know.
@aichatastic08
@aichatastic08 3 роки тому
you won’t be alone, i promise you. you’re amazing ! ❤️
@andysux1
@andysux1 3 роки тому
Sending good vibes your way ~~~~~~ ヾ(・ω・*)ノ
@user-yr8ge3fz8o
@user-yr8ge3fz8o 3 роки тому
The line between media and life is so blurred here. This is really boundary-pushing in that regard. A lot of people say that modern technology does more to isolate people than connect them, and sometimes that's true. But you've used it to open a window into your life and your feelings and thousands people of people found their reflection in that window. Because like, it's not the cleaned-up and larger-than-life thing we're used to with most movies, just real and true. Lol, there's a cheesy analogy. Art is like a window, if it's not too clean it's also a mirror!
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
I love that analogy, dirty art is my favorite art! Thanks so much for checking out the film, I really do think the internet has such profound potential for extremely personal and real stuff that you can't be made anywhere else. In many ways it has realized that potential, but not pushed it. I hope a film like this can provide a tiny push and encourage others to push as well. Wish you the best
@JackOLanternBob
@JackOLanternBob 3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver I definitely feel inspired by this to try to make some something with some of the same style.
@TheFos88
@TheFos88 2 роки тому
@@MrVal024 giggity
@TheWallProductions17
@TheWallProductions17 2 роки тому
Hey Joel, just wanted to tell you that the scenes with your father before his passing really touched me. I’m about your age and lost my father unexpectedly in October. Those little moments joking around with him and just enjoying each other’s stupid humor are part of what I miss most. Hope you and your family are coping as best you can, time heals all! Keep up the great work
@NickNoobles
@NickNoobles Рік тому
I'm really sorry for your loss. I hope you're doing ok.
@Up2Eight
@Up2Eight 2 роки тому
Just wanted to briefly comment since I actually don't see many comments directly referencing it, but wow the moment around 52:00 into the song and then behind the scenes was so well done. Everything up to that point was so straightforward and filmed a certain way it was jarring in such a good way to suddenly have the confessional and emotional singing break through the wall and feel like it paused time. Just everything about those few minutes I love rewatching so much.
@jeko7553
@jeko7553 2 роки тому
That stuck with me as well it was strange because it some how captures the same effect that happens to me when I turn the lights on or off while tripping on lsd
@tsawy6
@tsawy6 Рік тому
For me it was the moment the camera was picked up
@waterbottlettv
@waterbottlettv Рік тому
@@tsawy6 me too, like he totally could have just had the camera slowly pan upwards to give a similar effect, but something about how it was done is so jarring
@boris552
@boris552 Рік тому
Is that a real song or was it made for this movie? I couldn't find it from the lyrics on Google. I felt like it was a Leonard Cohen song or something.
@kissmyacidrocks
@kissmyacidrocks 3 роки тому
This is the best advertisement for a Marvel movie i've ever seen. I'm buying ant man asap
@Jayden3649
@Jayden3649 3 роки тому
Make sure to buy the 2nd one aswell
@Carcosahead
@Carcosahead 3 роки тому
Also Thor: The dark world
@TexasRedOutlaw
@TexasRedOutlaw 3 роки тому
Hey Joel, this film is ehhh OK but it could use some work, there's two things in particular you messed up on. 1. I can't watch it again for the first time 2. I can't remember it after I'm dead If you could fix that in your next film that would be great thanks in advance
@JimsyFlimsy
@JimsyFlimsy 3 роки тому
Can't forget not being able to enjoy any other movies anymore. Ruined that for me, unfortunately.
@duckmintNZ
@duckmintNZ 3 роки тому
I was about to get violent, instead I did a big "Awww"
@twintin_346
@twintin_346 3 роки тому
you got me in the first half not gonna lie
@Nunya111
@Nunya111 3 роки тому
Thanks for making me smile after watching this whole thing :)
@pipersimpson684
@pipersimpson684 3 роки тому
Hm yeah thats true there was also the tiny nitpick of nothing else on youtube comparing to this ever again, it was just a bit too beautiful. Kinda killed it.
@GregorTheScot
@GregorTheScot 2 роки тому
Came back to watch this one after drowning in potential. honestly kicking myself for skipping these for so long because in my mind I subbed to Joel for funny wee short films to watch as I ate lunch and I didn't want to commit to a feature length version of that. But these are something else entirely, honestly just incredible, just like the rawest films I've seen and so fucking refreshing. Joel keep killing it with these man, I swear I'm going to make each new one you put out an event going forward. Maybe rope some of my film school buds into watching it with me. Just amazing.
@skylarmathison1481
@skylarmathison1481 2 роки тому
When Joel screamed "I need something that feels like love in my life" I balled like a baby. This hit so damn hard. You can TELL he has truly been through pain, and it really feels like he means it. So damn relatable, and made me want more from my life. Kinda therapeutic, and makes me want to move on and maybe be open to women again? Has me in a wierd place anyways
@joem13yearsago73
@joem13yearsago73 Рік тому
Have you tried seeking your eternal Creator for love?
@proveitbrother5089
@proveitbrother5089 Рік тому
@@joem13yearsago73 I keep writing letters to Danny Devito but he won't respond
@joem13yearsago73
@joem13yearsago73 Рік тому
@@proveitbrother5089 keep writing. I'm sure he's saving them all in a special shoebox that he keeps under his bed❤
@proveitbrother5089
@proveitbrother5089 Рік тому
@@joem13yearsago73 🥺❤
@The_Power
@The_Power 3 роки тому
Dude, you took your heart cut it open and wrapped it around this whole thing. This whole thing bleeds emotion, you poured yourself into this and I can't hold more respect for you.
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 2 роки тому
"you took your heart cut it open and wrapped it around this whole thing." Now that is amazing. Well said.
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO 3 роки тому
"Do you have people you talk to, about your... life and the shit that goes wrong?" I took a break for an hour there.
@aliadelborgo1805
@aliadelborgo1805 2 роки тому
Joel, this is incredible. Sincerely incredible. Honestly the best watching experience I’ve had in a long time. I’m a visual artist, and have always been enamored by work that portrayed this unique intimacy that I find difficult to portray in other mediums like film, since I’m always acutely aware of the fact that its scripted. But this, wow. Captured vulnerability, intimacy, pain, fear, loss, etc etc masterfully. I honestly cried a ton. You are truly a rare talent, and although I don’t know you beyond watching your content for quite a while, I am truly proud of you for all your work. Thank you for making this, and making it accessible online
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
Thanks for the lovely words and thanks for taking the time to watch, Alia. Pushing and pulling the medium into new places is what makes it so exciting for me. I’m happy it resonated with you as well. Much love❤️
@aliadelborgo1805
@aliadelborgo1805 2 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver much love to you as well
@cyberhampter7747
@cyberhampter7747 Рік тому
Just a friendly reminder that hydrating is important.
@uhh_p
@uhh_p Рік тому
Thanks bae
@unfortunatelyharry
@unfortunatelyharry 11 місяців тому
oh thank god. i haven't drank water in like 2 weeks thanks for reminding me
@lunarfilth
@lunarfilth 3 роки тому
The way you genuinely blur the lines of what’s acting and what’s real had me so...confused? I wanted to figure it out, but I got to a point about 30 minutes after watching the whole thing, when I was trying to explain to someone why this affected me, where I realized that it didn’t really matter what was real or not because what was depicted was true To be honest I couldn’t help but cry during and afterwards I don’t know what else to say but I hope you continue to make films. I have not been moved by something in a very long time the way this did and I will carry this piece of art with me now in my heart
@Christian-bo2gy
@Christian-bo2gy 3 роки тому
That's such a great way to put it... Doesn't matter what was real, because it was true. Truth and Reality really aren't the same things after all... Thanks for leaving this comment. It helped me understand my feelings a bit better.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
Really beautifully put. All of my favorite movies are the ones that communicate something so true that I can't help but cry and it's amazing that you feel that way about mine. Thanks for giving the film your time, I'm glad it now has a cozy place in your heart. Wish you the best
@MrLyramion
@MrLyramion 2 роки тому
Just like Wrestling.
@justingomez9600
@justingomez9600 3 роки тому
“Have you... ever been dreadfully lonely?” This is art. You’re going to go far man. Your talent is unprecedented and is going to set the bar for not just UKposts but for indie filmmaking in general. I only recently discovered this channel and have loved every bit of it. From the comedic skits that have that Cherdley’s kinda feel with all of the awkwardness of real life scenarios but without the extra ham, to the more bizarre Adult Swim/ Tim&Eric type skits and animations, to this film right here that would no doubt win awards at indie-film festivals but without the pretentiousness. You execute perfectly your unique style of blending quality filmmaking with truly relatable scenarios. What blurs the lines of what’s real, improved, or scripted, is that you always manage to capture how people really interact and that raw emotion behind it. This film here proves your genius and is cathartic to anyone who’s ever felt that loneliness. Especially to those of us known as the, “funny guy” of the group where we hide what we’re really feeling behind smiles and deflect with humor. And like a true creative, you turned that visceral feeling into a work of art that captures the reality of it. You’re a master at your craft, like some sort of wizard-chef who can make his work both raw and well-done. Raw emotion and comedy that lets us, the viewer, see a bit of ourselves in that we can laugh and/or empathize with from the mundane social faux pas we commit to the more absurd. And it’s so well executed that it wraps everything together professionally while still magically maintaining that indie charm. Kudos to you Joel Haver! You are excellent at creating realist/surrealist work and blending the two so well without it feeling off-beat. Creating work that you enjoy making will take you far and we all look forward to watching your talent develop even more and unfold!
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
Thank you for the lovely comment and thanks for giving the film and the rest of the channel your time. I'd love to be somebody that can raise the bar on UKposts, not in a competitive way, but in a way that shows people the beautiful potential of UKposts to be more personal and more direct than anything else. Audiences already know the people they watch on UKposts unlike they ever knew any filmmakers prior. To be able to let your audience know, from somebody they feel like they know personally, that they're not alone in their struggles and loneliness is an amazing power to have. Gone are the days of buying a ticket to watch a film from some studio by some filmmaker who'll never know you did, the fact that you commented and I saw it and was able to respond is amazing in and of itself. It's an honor to be compared to both a wizard and a chef, two things I respect immensely. Much more culinary magic to come! I wish you the best, happy new year
@Nick1921945
@Nick1921945 3 роки тому
Gonzo dating imo
@yagzozandibek5196
@yagzozandibek5196 3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver hey man , you at least showed one person that internety nature of youtube leads to new, exciting and deeply personal artstyles. i have never felt catharsis like this before. not crying my eyes out or laughing my ass off, but this strange feeling that you may share your exact feelings with a stranger. i love you
@rabsrabble5415
@rabsrabble5415 3 роки тому
This comment is 100% spot on and Joel’s response about filmmaking in the Internet age is too.
@garfiiend
@garfiiend Рік тому
hey joel. i found this film shortly after its release a couple years ago i think. i honestly can’t remember. it was so beautiful. the parts with your father were so brave and vulnerable. they made me so sad but so grateful as i still had my father at the time. my father passed last night. i am so unbelievably torn. i related so much to you and the way you describe your dad, goofy, all over the place, and the funniest person i ever knew. im so fucking sad. im so lost. i am so hurt. thank you for making this joel.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver Рік тому
I’m so sorry to hear about your loss Christopher. It’s so fresh it’s hard to say anything that helps, just feel everything you need to feel, as long as you are able and willing to feel. Grief is a lifelong process, in time it gets easier in ways, never gets easy but gets easier. I wish you the best through this hard time. Much love to you and your family❤️
@garfiiend
@garfiiend Рік тому
@@Joel-Haver thank you so much. i love your content and i want you to know that these videos you create make people like me laugh in even the worse times. what you do here is so valuable.
@jayjackson5932
@jayjackson5932 9 днів тому
I know you probably won't read this. But this movie made me feel more than any movie I have ever watched. Thank you for sharing it.
@bigluc2491
@bigluc2491 3 роки тому
if this was scripted, HOLY SHIT. if this was improvised, HOLY SHIT. i was expecting a punchline but all i got was a gut punch. you're easily one of my favorite artists/creators here and elsewhere, joel.
@kristi7539
@kristi7539 3 роки тому
Describes my thoughts exactly
@misterkid
@misterkid 2 роки тому
I don't believe it's scripted, but the scenes are set up.
@Lisferator
@Lisferator 2 роки тому
I don't believe is even acted..
@konnorkuznetsov1035
@konnorkuznetsov1035 2 роки тому
My guess is they discussed a rough idea for some of the dating scenes, and of course a flawless setup for the cinematics, but still incredible. I think it was as genuine as it could possibly be while still being consistent. Truly art, the most raw expression of human emotion I've seen in any film since Doctor Zhivago.
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 2 роки тому
Part of the genius of this is that he showed you his process within the film itself, and all the performances still feel absolutely natural. Amazing performances from all involved.
@JREG
@JREG 3 роки тому
Art
@sirgreyspear
@sirgreyspear 3 роки тому
Hi Jreg. Didn’t think I’d be seeing you here.
@headcrabn5347
@headcrabn5347 3 роки тому
From Memeanalysis to Joel Haver, I think it's concerning how much my tastes align with the Jreg
@andrewolson1586
@andrewolson1586 3 роки тому
Real recognizes real
@pernalonga-chan2747
@pernalonga-chan2747 3 роки тому
JREG WTF???
@raymickens440
@raymickens440 3 роки тому
Lovee to see all the Art this platform brings together.
@roramdin
@roramdin 2 роки тому
that scene around 26 minutes just made me feel a lot of emotions. this is such a special film.
@Bluechief6
@Bluechief6 2 роки тому
My favorite thing you did right that movies don't... people take their shoes off when they're sitting on a bed.
@theonlyigg4811
@theonlyigg4811 2 роки тому
I mean I don't think his movies usually have a script, so it's mostly just people acting the way they normally would. Which makes it even more jarring when he BURSTS INTO A WHOLE ASS SONG OUT OF NOWHERE HALFWAY THROUGH THE MOVIE
@josephferris2737
@josephferris2737 3 роки тому
This movie felt so real that I found myself questioning multiple times whether or not a scene was real or scripted. The scenes with your dad put a knot in my throat and all the awkward and silent scenes made me feel anxious. The final scene literally brought me to tears. There is so much heart and soul in this movie and it was an amazing contrast to your silly short skits.
@whatifgaming1661
@whatifgaming1661 3 роки тому
On a simple note its refreshing to see a film that just shows how normal people talk and go on dates irl. I never know what to say, what ive seen in typical movies and shows isnt real and this feels like a real standard I can think about
@AnonYmous-hz1je
@AnonYmous-hz1je 3 роки тому
Isn’t the point of it that it still feels scripted (and we’re aware of it)? It plays off of your willingness to “trust” for the better part, it’s “real” in your experience of it because of the suspension of disbelief that we have for media like this, but there’s the reassuring thought that it’s scripted. So you accept that this is how dates are, and that these women love him, and etc, and in the “prologue” we revisit all of this without the lens of fantasy. And tones shift, and conversations hold more empty space, and colors are muted. And at the end, when he asks her to do a scene, you can hear how her tone shifts. And it brings you *into* the fantasy in this more real context and it’s crushing to *feel* how different it is. To think that this is an attempt to show what “real love” is like doesn’t make any sense to me. Its very focus is on questioning _what_ that could even look like?
@kookookapleksky2410
@kookookapleksky2410 2 місяці тому
This is three years old and I just found it. It came to me during a really hard part of my life (now) and I felt a connection to this film deeply. I suffer with feelings of loneliness. I just got broken up with and ghosted by a long distance partner due to mental health/depression and the world has never felt so vast or lonely. I’m not sure I could ever truly love someone again, but I still want to be held, or hugged. The vulnerability in this film is incredible, and I cried at the end, safe to say. I gotta spend more time with my dad. Thanks Joel ❤️🫂
@Cypriotpride930
@Cypriotpride930 3 місяці тому
It’s been a long time since I’ve had a film made me emote so many different feelings. From the cinematography, locations, acting, and sincere authenticity. This is simply something different and I applaud you. Please keep doing whatever you’re doing and we are all waiting for more of you. I know there’s a lot of truth in this film, it feels too real to be faked. Thank you for sharing this 🙏
@DoisKoh
@DoisKoh Рік тому
This is the most brilliant final frame I've seen in a movie. That last scene was so well done that I forgot this was a movie, and then the rug got pulled out from under me... again.
@Chloe_is_on_youtube_wtf
@Chloe_is_on_youtube_wtf 3 роки тому
By not succumbing to the Hollywood studio system, or any traditional film making system, Joel Haver has given himself the freedom to make every single film of his feel personal and authentic. His acting is so real because he is directing himself and because he often records actual interactions and/or improvisation. His stories are so real because he has complete creative control, aside from the help of a few very trusted friends. In real life he is one of the most kind and relatable people I know and his films reflect that. When he describes this film as a catharsis he is not kidding. All of his films are deeply personal and unique and beautiful, and always leave me in awe at the end thinking, “how is someone able to make films that speak to me so much?” And then I remember that I am human and he is human, and that unfiltered, uncontrolled art is human art. That “normal” films are alien by comparison. That if all films were made closer to the way Joel’s are made, we might all realize that we feel the same things more than we thought. This film is his best film yet and that’s saying a lot because his other films are so important too. Please watch the entire thing, as it goes through a lot of different emotions and will possibly surprise you. I love this movie and am grateful to know Joel. Thank you.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
Chloe! Thanks for the very flattering write-up! I'm really glad the film was able to resonate so deeply with you. Thank you for watching it. Grateful to know you as well
@parlay-music
@parlay-music 3 роки тому
“Unfiltered, uncontrolled art is human art. Normal films are alien by comparison” I like that a lot! This film’s candour is so refreshing and I admire Joel for having the courage to put something so personal like this out. So glad UKposts exists so indie films like this can be discovered.
@almostshay
@almostshay 3 роки тому
"He assumed this was more than it was" like my god. This movie is like a real life version of Perfect Blue. Halfway through the movie my perception of the premise was completely shattered. It feels like I was right there with you having no clue what was real and what wasnt. UKposts autoplayed this while I was eating a sandwich and I stayed up just to watch the whole thing. How did I get here from a rat with a gun
@khammkeo4448
@khammkeo4448 3 роки тому
A rat with a gun 😭😭
@senza4591
@senza4591 3 роки тому
This really is like a less outwardly sinister Perfect Blue huh
@patricknorris9334
@patricknorris9334 3 роки тому
I need to know what video you started with to get here lol
@almostshay
@almostshay 3 роки тому
@@patricknorris9334 they're 2 of Joel Haver's most recent video. The RPG ones. They should be easy to find if you just go through his most recent uploads.
@illestvillain1971
@illestvillain1971 3 роки тому
Perfectly blue is a masterpiece, and I think this is too. :0
@enterthyname_2376
@enterthyname_2376 2 місяці тому
I just finished watching this. My soul was touched, my heart was trashed, and I am simply stunned. A lot could be said about the authenticity and artistry overflowing this film, but all I'm going to say is, I love you. Thank you for sharing your creations. I dearly hope you are able to feel proud of them.
@JorbLovesGear
@JorbLovesGear Рік тому
To be this vulnerable takes a lot courage, and for it to come together to feel so genuine is a credit to your voice as a writer. Thanks especially for sharing the moments with your father, in a way it feels generous that we get to see them. I feel like loneliness can be magnified on the internet and through a lot of your work, this film especially, you've given people a chance to find someone they can relate to. Thank you.
@kalgrandy2101
@kalgrandy2101 3 роки тому
Thank you Joel. “Some people can read War and Peace, and come away thinking it’s a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe.” -Lex Luthor The human condition is real. Hope you’re doing ok Joel.
@cdogthehedgehog6923
@cdogthehedgehog6923 3 роки тому
Why isnt that quote quoted more often?
@franklinwilliams8048
@franklinwilliams8048 3 роки тому
"Why isn't that quote quoted more often?" -@@cdogthehedgehog6923
@cdogthehedgehog6923
@cdogthehedgehog6923 3 роки тому
@@franklinwilliams8048 im honored.
@franklinwilliams8048
@franklinwilliams8048 3 роки тому
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 #PayItForward
@theonygard5694
@theonygard5694 3 роки тому
@@franklinwilliams8048 "#payitfotward"- Franklin Williams
@evancunningham5653
@evancunningham5653 3 роки тому
I love the way this unfurled throughout, with me questioning if this was real or a movie at the beginning, then it seems to pull back the curtains and be behind the scenes and shows these deeply emotional personal moments, and puts me in the same position again of wondering if this is even real. It made me cry anyway. Then the creepy undertones with the editing behind the scenes and the cloying bringing the actresses back but keeping things in shot which make it seem like this time it really is unscripted because you can see the facade with the lighting props. The musical bit in the middle was so unexpected too, felt almost like a palette cleanser from the line blurring real / film scenes at the beginning. It felt so human though, all of it, props to you and the girls in this, masterfully crafted piece of art.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
I’m really glad so much of the film connected for you. Thanks for taking the time to check it out
@TheFos88
@TheFos88 2 роки тому
That musical scene had me FLOORED with an overwhelming dark almost angry sadness that oozed from the videography and music. Just... Absolutely intense and out of nowhere. Also I don't know why but it made me think of Pink Floyd.
@mackmcd
@mackmcd 2 роки тому
Holy shit, Joel. I haven't even finished this yet. But something just happened to me that's never happened to me. The instant you said, "thank you for the shirts, I have them all now." I felt a lightning bolt of sadness hit me and I started crying. From fine, to pausing the movie to cry with one line. Thank you so much for making and sharing this. I don't know what this means - what I just felt - but I'm sure it's important. I'm gonna go call my Dad.
@callmeqt1269
@callmeqt1269 2 місяці тому
I’m probably an artistic person before I’m anything else, but the one genre of art that never quite did it for me was movies. In this hour and a half, you permanently changed that. I hope you’re well, Joel.
@turf5360
@turf5360 3 роки тому
This guy is sooo fucking underrated...
@thecompanioncube4211
@thecompanioncube4211 3 роки тому
I love he's booming now. He gained like 250k subs in the span of 15-20 days
@inujoshua1359
@inujoshua1359 3 роки тому
@@thecompanioncube4211 I still think he's underrated even with that amount of subs 😂
@DavidJaboulian
@DavidJaboulian 3 роки тому
Frankly, I don't really leave comments anywhere. That said, I don't really find myself feeling real emotional connections to films. But, holy fuck. This deserves more attention, more analysis, more support, more views, more everything because I legitimately cried my eyes out. Joel, you really have made one of the most hauntingly relatable pieces of media. Thank you.
@jasminemarin742
@jasminemarin742 Рік тому
It’s so hard to tell if this a movie or a documentary. I think what I love most about your work is that blur. It’s so honest. Thank you
@melissadistante7871
@melissadistante7871 Рік тому
Found myself wishing the fake stuff was real, and the real stuff was fake. Thank you for sharing this! 💖
@NMLSSneon
@NMLSSneon 3 роки тому
Brother, this made me feel things.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
@IllIlllI
@IllIlllI 3 роки тому
Thought you died in transformers7? Good to have you back, captain!
@flatearth6365
@flatearth6365 3 роки тому
@@IllIlllI lmao
@snicanremember
@snicanremember 3 роки тому
Was watching “when someone shows you a video on their phone” and then it auto played into this, and I watched the entire thing on my phone. It’s incredible
@frenchtoast2319
@frenchtoast2319 3 роки тому
And he shows the girl a video on his phone.
@skrillex5939
@skrillex5939 Рік тому
Just smoked a bowl and watched some of your skits and decided to check out your channel, I clicked on this knowing nothing and I am in shock. This is beautiful, it’s touching, it’s new yet old, it’s realistic, it’s real. I cried, I laughed, I really felt for your character. There were times where I couldn’t tell if this was scripted or not and I just, gosh this is amazing, thank you
@Tomato-Icecream
@Tomato-Icecream 2 місяці тому
i dont really know what to even comment, but this really made me feel a lot of things, and this felt extremely real and honest. amazing work Joel
@user-no2vw8tm2s
@user-no2vw8tm2s 3 роки тому
That gems like this just linger on UKposts, waiting to be discovered by people who choose to stay in bed and watch UKposts videos all day because they struggle to find a purpose in life is almost as ironic as it is poetic. This is an amazing piece of art, Joel. I hope you are doing better now. I hope everyone who watched this is doing better now.
@illestvillain1971
@illestvillain1971 3 роки тому
I am in bed watching this and I felt like you just read my mind and used it to mirror me. :( Life is shit, and unpredictable. By staying in bed it's still shit -- but it is predictable
@NIL0S
@NIL0S 3 роки тому
It's not that shit. But I'm in bed right with you trying to forget it a little.
@TheMPBailey
@TheMPBailey 3 роки тому
I read your whole review, but sincerely thought you said "germs" instead of "gems". Still made sense. Because germs find people and people find gems. Joel just seems to be both.
@allyson--
@allyson-- 3 роки тому
Not to be greedy but if anyone wants to share other gems they've found through UKposts, I'm all ears
@TheFos88
@TheFos88 2 роки тому
How dare you call me out
@Juan-zi3qs
@Juan-zi3qs 3 роки тому
It’s so slightly awkward but not enough to make you feel cringe almost like it hits somewhere else
@stitch3762
@stitch3762 3 роки тому
to me that awkwardness betrays some sense authenticity which is what makes it no so cringe.
@JumpydeerbobHD
@JumpydeerbobHD 3 роки тому
I don't think it's even awkward, it's just very rare to see a movie with real humans. It's a movie about people not a script.
@jagobouffler6206
@jagobouffler6206 3 роки тому
it's not movie awkward, it's real awkward that you can actually feel, the good awkward
@EPMTUNES
@EPMTUNES 3 роки тому
It’s very realistic but reality shows have ruined that term
@Kgknipp
@Kgknipp 2 роки тому
I thought this too. I think it's because he eventually gets to where the hesitation and awkwardness are going.
@Andi_Frost_XPR0PR18
@Andi_Frost_XPR0PR18 Рік тому
Makes me wonder how much of this was just footage taken from Joel's real life. It blends fiction and reality so seamlessly.
@giraffewithabowlerhat1883
@giraffewithabowlerhat1883 Місяць тому
It hit me so hard when you cut to the open casket. Like, "No! He was alive just a second ago!" Thank you for this extremely cathartic film, Joel. I'm glad you're still enjoying making movies/art/things :)
@Michniko
@Michniko 3 роки тому
Joel. What a beautiful film. Mild Spoiler: There came a point when the musical section kicked in that I realized I had forgotten what I was watching was scripted. Everything about this movie is so real, it hits you hard in the parts of you that you hate to share with others. I have an extremely high respect for you and I look up to you as an aspiring filmmaker, this was wonderful to watch even if it made me relive some of the worst times of my life, but I think that was the point. Thank you, Joel.
@ChickentNug
@ChickentNug 3 роки тому
I kind of think that part ended what was actually "scripted", and everything from then on was a representation of what was actually going on in his life. Maybe not, but thats what I got from it
@markshiman5690
@markshiman5690 3 роки тому
The music part is the only part that's scripted. The rest is improved. That's why it feels so real.
@piersnivans5983
@piersnivans5983 3 роки тому
@@markshiman5690 you mean improvised?
@markshiman5690
@markshiman5690 3 роки тому
@@piersnivans5983 yes
@depressedcowboy7687
@depressedcowboy7687 2 роки тому
This film hit hard, getting into your 20s and not having meaningful connections outside your close family members is hard Thanks Joel for making this.
@mrSam3ooo
@mrSam3ooo 2 роки тому
I thought i was the only one. Feels good to know there are others with the same struggles
@smh1245
@smh1245 2 роки тому
Same here buddy. I almost feel guilty to feel lonely or sad because I have a loving and supporting family which I'm grateful for everyday and I'm aware how big of a blessing this is, but I can't share everything with them, I can't pour my heart out in front of them, you know, they have their own problems. Being in your twenties, going to college and heaving no real relationships outside your family can be challenging sometimes.
@turbotatas6671
@turbotatas6671 2 роки тому
Try being 30 and wasting your 20s smoking weed just isolating yourself and only realizing recently how much you fucked up
@mjr_schneider
@mjr_schneider 2 роки тому
Never knew this was such a common experience for people our age. I always assumed I was an outlier. What happened to our generation that made us like this? What went wrong?
@darkslayer1161
@darkslayer1161 2 роки тому
Not having any meaningful connections at is hard.
@MetalFan9490
@MetalFan9490 Рік тому
Hey Joel, I don’t know if you’ll ever read this but this is an absolutely beautiful film. I’ve watched it quite a few times since it came out and I cry every time. I can really relate to the inner sadness that you portray and that sucks in a wonderful way. I hope you’re doing okay, and thank you for this film.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver Рік тому
Hey Brian, it really means so much to hear that you revisit this film. Thanks for giving it your time and then giving it your time again! Sadness certainly can suck. I’m both glad and sorry you can relate, we’re all in whatever this is together my friend. I wish you the best.
@MetalFan9490
@MetalFan9490 Рік тому
@@Joel-Haver you actually saw my comment! Tbh this has made my whole week, thank you again for this film I will be sure to watch it many more times!
@rohanimations
@rohanimations 2 роки тому
Halfway through my rewatch and I noticed that the warm scenes of relationships have blue as the prominent color while the cold scenes of loneliness mainly have colors like orange. Not really sure if this was intentional or not (because it’s not super consistent) but swapping warm and cool colors creates a really neat effect.
@monauralsnail0669
@monauralsnail0669 3 роки тому
Fuck man... I’m kinda just speechless after watching this. I feel dirty or guilty watching this, like I’m privy to conversations and events that I shouldn’t be, an intruder in truly personal moments. That being said I couldn’t stop watching. This is honestly one of the best movies I’ve watched in such a long time, mainly because of how small and personal it is. Every thing else is just too big to care about, the stakes are always so high that it’s impossible to form any kind of attachment too. But with how relatable the struggle to open up and connect with someone is, how health issues make you so vulnerable, and how painful losing a parent is and it changing how you see everything, this movie is the exact opposite. You can actually connect to your struggle, not only by seeing my own personal struggles reflected, but by seeing you as an independent entity actually struggling. it’s impossible to not feel every moment of the film. Thanks for sharing this
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
Thank you for the lovely words. It’s been amazing seeing so many people connect so deeply with this film. I agree that most of the movies sold to us are either too broad or too big to be relatable. I’m happy I could provide something small and personal as a change of pace. Thanks for watching, hope you have a nice weekend.
@Kitsuyomi
@Kitsuyomi 3 роки тому
As someone's who's terrified of dates because of the idea of fucking up, the awkwardness in this movie is so human that it actually shows me how natural things can be when you just go out there and be yourself Edit: After watching the entire movie, nothing has resonated through me so much before... I could empathize with the loneliness and there was so much said without having to be said Thanks for this Joel, I know it must have been rough. It's difficult to find an answer for these things...
@yeboi5478
@yeboi5478 3 роки тому
This comment is reddit
@eustoliafukuyo6481
@eustoliafukuyo6481 3 роки тому
@@yeboi5478 No this is patrick
@ellocodiablo
@ellocodiablo Рік тому
This was such an amazing movie that blurred the line between acting and reality that I was completely unable to differentiate what was and wasn't scripted while also depicting some deeply emotional concepts. Thank you for this beautiful movie!
@gforcegaming5903
@gforcegaming5903 Рік тому
I'm not an emotional person, but this is the first time I've cried while watching a film in many years. I think the fear of being alone is such a universal thing that, even of you aren't alone, it still feels like it's just moments away from happening.
@bamboeng2014
@bamboeng2014 3 роки тому
Dude, your interactions in this movie is a masterclass in how REAL humans talk, big props
@Ujulahipobaca
@Ujulahipobaca 2 роки тому
It was improvised man.
@ForlornFoundry
@ForlornFoundry 3 роки тому
I aspire to be able to have the courage to show so rawly such deep personal struggles for the public to see. This felt as if I was voyeuristically watching your life while also empathetically relating to the very same struggles I've dealt with in my life. You're a man of talent Joel. I hope you never stop creating ♥️
@ForlornFoundry
@ForlornFoundry 3 роки тому
What I took away from this film was also the power to be able to vulnerable in your own life. To be able to fully feel your grief and to not hide your shame. To expose myself to those I trust just as you exposed yourself to us and to see that, hey the world isn't as cold and closed off as you think. Anyways much love to you man
@LowdownBoy
@LowdownBoy 3 роки тому
I feel you. Take care. Your comment has good points as well as being congruent to my own present.
@PeyTheWriter
@PeyTheWriter Рік тому
wow, what an interesting movie. Need some time to think about it. The other day one of my good friends and I were talking about how your channel feels like a constant pursuit of art. I can confidently say no one has ever made something that feels quite like this. I've been following your channel for awhile and started watching this awhile back in the middle of the pandemic but I'm glad I took the time to watch through this entire movie. Truly a unique piece of art that deserves to be consumed and talked about. We met a week or two back briefly, and I'm considering trying to make a video essay about this movie. Once the idea is actually more developed/put together I'd love to potentially talk to you about this film. Independent of whether or not you're interested I want you to know I really was blown away
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver Рік тому
Hey Pey, I remember you! Thank you for the lovely comment. I’m really happy you gave the film a watch and that it resonated with you. Reach out to me via email about the video essay! I’ll try my best to get back in a timely manner. I wish you the best❤️
@joshuaandrew-boateng6784
@joshuaandrew-boateng6784 7 місяців тому
This film is incredible. I haven't been able to cry recently (I've needed to) and watching this film finally allowed me to do that. Your work is hugely inspirational to me both as a person and an aspiring filmmaker. Thank you Joel.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 7 місяців тому
I'm glad that the film could provide for you a needed emotional release. Thank you for watching and for giving it your time. I wish you the best!
@someoneelse7306
@someoneelse7306 3 роки тому
I felt such a connection with the tone of the film that I almost felt like I was a character while watching it. The scenes were so realistic that I almost thought some of them were real reactions that actors were responding to unaware of the context. My natural inclination was to shy away from the specific feelings this evokes, recognizing them is terrifying. Revelatory job, thank you for this.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
I love what you said about your inclination to shy away from the feelings it evokes. Recognizing them can be terrifying, denial can be a cozy prison indeed. I hope by sharing them others can feel a little less alone and maybe a little less inclined to shy away. Thank you for watching
@ivan2die
@ivan2die 3 роки тому
amazing. awkward and realistic. my mind is fucked trying to figure out should i take this as your life, or a story of yours. i've never felt and experienced a movie like this before. i'm wondering if you're an actual psycho. got recommended some animated short of yours. then checked your channel and watched your ''you're a filmmaker'' video. good video. then i decided to watch a movie of yours and this was the first one to come up. i'm confused about everything. subscribed.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
Thanks for exploring the channel and watching this, it really does mean a lot. I promise I’m probably not a psycho though! Probably!
@Nen_niN
@Nen_niN 3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver Sounds like something a psycho would probably say...
@jackiec498
@jackiec498 3 роки тому
@@Nen_niN @Joel Haver 💀💀😂 I'm fucking dying!
@jackiec498
@jackiec498 3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver I lost my dad last year...the little I've seen of yours reminds me soooo much of him! He was hilarious and so am I 😆...my gf & mom may disagree but what do they know about comedy 😜.
@legchef1060
@legchef1060 3 роки тому
@@jackiec498 You said something about how your dad died and using emojis? That’s kinda messed up.
@zeblunz7882
@zeblunz7882 2 місяці тому
Man. This was heavy. Back in 2018 I lost my grandma. She raised me and brothers and it was so hard to accept she was gonna be gone. This was a great film, man. And I think it brought back the good times I had with my grandma. Can’t wait for your next film
@LexisMichelle
@LexisMichelle Рік тому
i dont know how i got to this video, i dont remember clicking on it but when i turned on my computer this morning it was there im so glad i decided to see what i mustve accidentally clicked on last night and watch it through because this is a masterpiece, great job man
@LeroOfTheKodiak
@LeroOfTheKodiak 3 роки тому
I saw an animated skit randomly yesterday. Today I started exploring the rest of your channel. I found this. I think somehow, I needed to find this. I've been so completely, cripplingly alone since October of 2019, when my fiance left me one month from being married. Then Covid hit. I have felt so isolated, and for lack of a better way to put this, fucking done with life. I've been unable to cry for months. This opened the floodgates. Thank you. Thank you for this so very much.
@johncavanaugh3960
@johncavanaugh3960 3 роки тому
Is that the figure 8 album cover?
@CompanionCube
@CompanionCube 3 роки тому
shout out to all the peeps who feels like they don‘t belong in this world
@hot4fi
@hot4fi 3 роки тому
hi it me thank you
@pennyUSDReference
@pennyUSDReference 3 роки тому
me too dude. me too
@SlidewaysMotion
@SlidewaysMotion 3 роки тому
Ayo
@skromnyasha
@skromnyasha 3 роки тому
✌️✌️✌️😜😜
@aubrey5505
@aubrey5505 2 роки тому
Watching this I couldn’t stop crying. Seriously, just recalling this film from memory makes me tear up. My dad is chronically ill and many times I’ve been afraid I’d lose him. I’ve lost so many good friends and some family to drugs and the opioid crisis. Finding new people is hard, and finding people to love and who really love me for me is a struggle that often causes me a lot of sadness. I think your film perfectly encapsulates the journey youth of today face socializing with others, and the human condition of searching for love. I couldn’t think of what to say 4 days ago when I first saw this film. But now I’ll say thank you, and please, don’t ever give up.
@plilerj
@plilerj Місяць тому
After watching more than half your films now they dont fail to surprise. This one was absolutely beautiful. Grief is by far the hardest part of life, im glad you nade something so amazing out of the pain
@alexwilkins7110
@alexwilkins7110 3 роки тому
The last ten minutes of this film was agonizing. Everything was building up to a point that I felt like it was just screaming at me personally. I hate the fact that I think I can feel the exact emotions you're trying to convey. Some of those exact words ringing in my ear. I hate that I know that feeling. I hate knowing that you're trying to convey that exact headspace. Yet I can't help but love this film so, so much.
@purplefondue5991
@purplefondue5991 3 роки тому
I was crying at the 30min mark
@sebastianroundtree1550
@sebastianroundtree1550 3 роки тому
The last ten minutes were so agonizing - I had to stand up and walk away from the screen. So true it hurts
@jonopens
@jonopens 3 роки тому
I started writing essentially the same comment and, lo and behold, here it is. I wanted to scream, 'Say it, say what you feel, say how empty and grotesque and lonely you feel. But just say it!' Such a stunning film.
@bettyoffdead
@bettyoffdead 3 роки тому
I feel like I just got a secret glimpse into someone's life and saw things they never meant for anyone to see. I feel like I intruded and it's such an intense and visceral feeling... I'm at once uncomfortable and fascinated in ways I can't describe. I've never had a film do this to me, especially not to this extreme. Joel, you are a genius and I honestly aspire to have the kind of creativity, insight, and emotional capacity that you do
@breteasley3581
@breteasley3581 3 роки тому
Wow....yes
@reptarien
@reptarien 3 роки тому
said it all in one bro
@joshuapowell4609
@joshuapowell4609 2 місяці тому
Hey, I watched this 2 years ago, forgot to let ya know. Your film was fantastic and the full feature length movies rock, thanks for you doing you.
@anotherdanegan
@anotherdanegan 2 роки тому
This is one of the most beautiful and moving films I have ever seen. It may even be better than Forrest Gump. And that's saying something.
@stefanakosmar
@stefanakosmar 3 роки тому
There is this thing about youtube films made by independent creators that can only be achieved here and can never be achieved in the “cinema”. And that is the amazing feature of blurring the lines between reality and fiction, I cannot for the life of me distinguish between the two in this particular film. For all I know everything here is true and this is a real autobiography. What an amazing thing you’ve created here. You have real talent, and forget about those people saying you should only make these, btw hilarious and genius, animations because you would just be limiting yourself into expressing only a fraction of the emotional capacity you have. Bravo Joel Havel.
@virtualmartini
@virtualmartini 3 роки тому
This has far less to do with the medium of UKposts and far more to do with the filmmaker; Joel.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
Thank you so much for watching! Don't worry, I'll never limit myself based on what's popular. I'll always pursue the ideas I'm passionate about. It's very important to me that the channel paints a full portrait of who I am, comedy, drama, reality, fiction, warts and all. Wish you well
@stefanakosmar
@stefanakosmar 3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver Glad to hear that, Cheers Joel!
@LTtrash
@LTtrash 3 роки тому
This was unlike anything I've seen. This was so real and heartfelt that I couldn't stop watching and I truly saw so much of myself in this. I went through a breakup recently and the feelings you filmed, expressed, and FELT in this film are so real and so true, it's a wonder you were able to capture it all. Thank you for making this.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
It makes me so happy when people who found me through my shorts give my features a chance. The fact that I was able to provide you with some catharsis, or maybe just the knowledge that someone else has felt the same way, is what makes capturing and sharing such personal stuff so important to me. Thank you for watching
@mefsincorporated4704
@mefsincorporated4704 3 роки тому
Honestly I feel like it helped me too and for me I also just went through a really hard break up and honestly I'm glad I was able to found this amazing channel
@davisnafshun4758
@davisnafshun4758 7 місяців тому
“you know that.. i said that i was single.. because of the movie.” ouch my man. that whole conversation was rough love the concept, especially when he makes it seem that he’s scheduling acting “dates” just for the companionship. it seems like joel as an actor has at least some natural charisma so i don’t think he’ll be out for love for long! proud of myself for guessing what the setting shift would be before it happened. the last girl is an angel. she was so compassionate, nice, and caring. all the women here should be praised. this is like what if sherman’s march (1985) was not self-indulgent and actually good. really enjoyed what joel did, regardless of what actually was composed or not, it works. and it works well. maybe one of the best films of the decade.
@sproutstuffs
@sproutstuffs Рік тому
I watched this film for the third time last night and I have to say with each viewing I appreciate it more and more. I love this film so much, thank you for sharing such a personal story with us Joel, lots of love :)
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver Рік тому
That means so much, I'm glad you keep coming back. Thanks for giving the film your time three times!!
@kallmecate
@kallmecate 3 роки тому
I was lucky enough to have an early viewing. It is definitely cathartic. Sweet, emotional, healing and so relatable. I can't choose just one favorite from your films but I can say this is definitely one of my favorites :)
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 3 роки тому
Thanks mom for being so supportive! Love you
@kallmecate
@kallmecate 3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver Always XO I only had to give birth to you to get an early viewing ;)
@Jackmillsable
@Jackmillsable 3 роки тому
It is honestly upsetting that this hasn't been seen by millions of people, this is the greatest piece of media I have ever consumed. I haven't cried in a long time and this did it twice.
@joediamond7988
@joediamond7988 3 роки тому
Same
@pdfpockethole
@pdfpockethole 3 роки тому
I cried
@Skarwind
@Skarwind 3 роки тому
What's more of a crime is that he's at 900k subs now and it's only been viewed by 27% of his subs. I'm guessing they either just found him and are watching things in random order or they are going from new-old or old-new. He'll get there though!
@BEN-ys6gu
@BEN-ys6gu 3 роки тому
@@Skarwind It's usually too long for youtube, I almost didn't watch it too because when I open youtube I am looking for something short to watch
@austin1moore
@austin1moore 3 роки тому
@@Skarwind I'm one of those. Just saw it today. Holy shit what a ride... Telling people to watch now.
@leiyashan3111
@leiyashan3111 Рік тому
this was so incredible. it all felt so real and i couldn’t tell what was scripted and what wasn’t. it really captured the feeling of loneliness and just doing whatever you can to feel loved, even if it’s just pretend.
@mustafabaray
@mustafabaray Рік тому
the amount of breaks i had to take from watching this movie is insane. it sounds like a negative critique but it's because of how sad and personal this was. thank you joel for being one of the few real geniuses on this platform and in general.
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