Происхождение славян: рассказывает ДНК-генеалогия

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Клесов Анатолий Алексеевич Происхождение славян: рассказывает ДНК-генеалогия. Лекция была прочитана 19 мая 2009 года на Химическом факультете МГУ имени М. В. Ломоносова

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@user-tc7bp6es4v
@user-tc7bp6es4v 21 день тому
Ну не чего нового, это мы и без него знали , даже даты примерно одинаковые, молодец мужик.
@dolcevita6790
@dolcevita6790 3 роки тому
Славяне произошли с Алтая с кыргызами имеют общего предка и гаплогруппу. Есть работы на эту тему. Раскопки в костенках 50 т лет. Русский календарь 7529 год
@sergeykopyl2842
@sergeykopyl2842 3 роки тому
Российская (история, язык, генетика от фонаря, Погугли.) Выходцы из залесья спецы на воровстве (к сожалению). Триполье индорийсие языки куда девать? С кыргызами предок, с неграми , китайцами ... то-же? Каким календарем меряешь там и живешь.
@dolcevita6790
@dolcevita6790 3 роки тому
@@sergeykopyl2842 спорить не собираюсь. И доказывать ничего не буду.
@dolcevita6790
@dolcevita6790 3 роки тому
@@sergeykopyl2842 спорить не собираюсь. И доказывать ничего не буду.
@user-cg6jo1ig5f
@user-cg6jo1ig5f 3 місяці тому
А разрез глаз ?
@Mardahan
@Mardahan 26 днів тому
Если посмотреть на карту то устройство сельских поселений абсолютно одинаково в Таримской впадине и по всей России. А Прибалтика, Польша уже 50/50. Китай, Индия, Америки уже совсем другое жизненое пространство.
@Milan23_
@Milan23_ 3 роки тому
tHIS NEED TO BE TRANSLATED!
@user-dg2py7ym5p
@user-dg2py7ym5p 3 роки тому
NeedS!
@user-kj6sr8xd3y
@user-kj6sr8xd3y 3 роки тому
Интересно, что мужчины и самцы шемпанзе, видимо, имеют общего предка.
@FelixMartin-rk6eq
@FelixMartin-rk6eq 2 роки тому
I realize it is quite randomly asking but does anyone know of a good site to stream new series online ?
@zevsawyer7457
@zevsawyer7457 2 роки тому
@Felix Martin lately I have been using Flixzone. Just search on google for it =)
@valerydekov1024
@valerydekov1024 3 роки тому
К чему догадки, всему миру давно известно ясно, что русские славяне произошли от Авраама ,который пришел, согласно Библии, на землю Обетованную с другого берега Москвы - Реки
@user-zv9cm1pe8w
@user-zv9cm1pe8w 3 роки тому
Правильно! А американцы произошли от противоположного берега реки Потомак.
@user-cr4ho2hy5s
@user-cr4ho2hy5s Місяць тому
Славяне произошли от еврея- Авраама?
@Beagles_and_corgi
@Beagles_and_corgi 6 років тому
объясните одно- каким макаром произошло человечество, если первая женщина появилась 140000 лет назад, а мужчина 70000 лет назад? эта так называемая наука противоречит сама себе!
@user-lp9dz5qy4m
@user-lp9dz5qy4m 6 років тому
Речь не идёт о первой женщине и первом мужчине. Много и мужчин и женщин жили и раньше и позже указанных дат, но их потомки не дожили до настоящего времени. Речь идёт о том, что 70 тыс. лет назад жил мужчина потомками которого является все современные люди. Потомки всех остальных мужчин, которые жили ранее (не считая отца, деда и т.д. нашего "героя") в силу различных причин не дожили до настоящего времени. Но у этого "перво" мужчины была не одна женщина, а много. И если попытаться определить, первопредка всех "жён" "первого мужчины", то окажется, что она жила 140 тыс. лет назад. Эти цифры вполне подтверждают известные факты: женщины "живучее" мужчин, а мужчины "плодовитее" женщин.
@user-lp9dz5qy4m
@user-lp9dz5qy4m 6 років тому
И хорошо, что вы ещё не разлили своё масло ;-)
@user-dm4xg9xh8g
@user-dm4xg9xh8g 3 роки тому
@@user-lp9dz5qy4m Федорчук, не балаболь,а говори по делу...
@user-kj6sr8xd3y
@user-kj6sr8xd3y 3 роки тому
Не первый мужчина и не первая женщина, а мужчина и женщина чьи мы потомки. Были и другие мужчины и женщины, но их потомки до нашего времени не дожили или их пока не обнаружили. Исследованию, видимо, подверглись меньше десятой доли процента.
@user-mb4xn1ry3d
@user-mb4xn1ry3d Місяць тому
А вы прослушали лекцию или слушали?
@user-rg3ry8ro2v
@user-rg3ry8ro2v 3 роки тому
Слушайте Клёсова а не всяких там русофобов.
@user-pm1tl1ig4g
@user-pm1tl1ig4g 3 роки тому
клесов - фрик и шарлатан. не в курсе что ли?
@user-di2qq3xm5t
@user-di2qq3xm5t 3 роки тому
@@user-pm1tl1ig4g А по сути?
@user-pm1tl1ig4g
@user-pm1tl1ig4g 3 роки тому
@@user-di2qq3xm5t тебе нужен прям разбор его творчества? у него и википедия "достойная"
@user-di2qq3xm5t
@user-di2qq3xm5t 3 роки тому
@@user-pm1tl1ig4g не понял. По сути можно? Я тупой.
@user-pm1tl1ig4g
@user-pm1tl1ig4g 3 роки тому
@@user-di2qq3xm5t если ты тупой, - зачем тебе вообще нужна псевдонаука днк-генеология?
@user-vs9if5lv5s
@user-vs9if5lv5s 3 роки тому
Конечно не было индоевропейцев они были славянами болван!!!!!!!
@jemandausV
@jemandausV Місяць тому
Прежде чем ругаться и учить - предлагаю выделить обращение запятой.
@user-ms3ns1zu6e
@user-ms3ns1zu6e 22 дні тому
Клёсов как новогодняя ёлка обвешался регалиями и всё по большей части стран враждебной РФ он засланный тихий и не заметный разрушитель страны РФ. Верить ему себя не уважать.
@bvzafvbkbz7632
@bvzafvbkbz7632 6 років тому
Сплетни...в виде версий...
@user-je4ri7yy2l
@user-je4ri7yy2l 3 роки тому
Уважаемый @Bvz Afvbkbz, где можно ваши труды почитать в виде трудов ?
@user-dg2py7ym5p
@user-dg2py7ym5p 3 роки тому
Смотрите Дом-2, сюда не заходите в виде слушателя
@user-fi5oh5gx4i
@user-fi5oh5gx4i Місяць тому
Точно
@robhansen6745
@robhansen6745 4 роки тому
MORE EVIDENCE THAT MOSCOW AND RUSSIANS IS OF FINNO -UGRIC ORIGIN AND NOT SLAVIC !!!! Moscow’ most likely is Finno-Ugric in origin and the evidence is in the crown know as the cap of Monomakh” Russia’s cap of the Monomakh came not from Constantinople but from Khan Uzbek, Tashkent historian says The cap of the Monomakh, a symbol for many Russians of Muscovy’s links to Constantinople and thus fundamental to the idea of Moscow as the third Rome, did not come from the second Rome as most Russians imagine but from Khan Uzbek of the Golden Horde, according to Mansur Mirovalyev. in a 2800-word scholarly article, acknowledges the other theory of the cap’s origin but says there are far better reasons to think that it came from Uzbek and thus its invocation as a prop for the notion of Moscow as the third Rome is unjustified. And drawing on the works of other historians, including Russian ones, Mirovalyev suggests that it was Khan Uzbek who determined that Moscow would first become primus inter pares among Russian principalities and then the dominant one, a view that many Russians are certain to view as at a minimum lese majeste or even as an insult to their national dignity. Moscow Prince Ivan Kalita received the cap from Khan Uzbek, and Moscow historian Nikolay Borisov considers it to be a woman’s tyubeteika which belonged to the wife of Moscow Prince Yury. Uzbek “ruled the Golden Horde in its golden age,” the Tashkent historian says, and during his reign, “the Moscow princes began to aspire to primacy over the remaining Russian principalities, above all as allies of the Horde which gave them the right to collect tribute from the others. Consequently, Mirovalyev says, “if it weren’t for Uzbek, then the Russian state in its present-day form, as a continuation of the Grand Principality of Muscovy simply would not exist.” Picking Moscow as its favorite, the Uzbek historian says, the regime of Uzbek chose a weak competitor in order to promote its plans of dividing and ruling this part of its own empire. And he notes that the ethnic diversity of the region is so great that “even the word ‘Moscow’ most likely is Finno-Ugric in origin.” But as has often happened in other empires, border cities and states, often emerge as the dominant players with the help of outsiders. And that is what happened in the case of Muscovy. But its help came not from Constantinople as most Russians now imagine but rather from the Golden Horde, something they are reluctant to admit.  euromaidanpress.com/2019/01/04/russias-cap-of-the-monomakh-came-not-from-constantinople-but-from-khan-uzbek-tashkent-historian-says/?fbclid=IwAR23i4nK3r3F17nObmg7nesJpqWI4sK4Y0iltdY6ZllUEj33w9QxDTu9Zv0 
@robhansen6745
@robhansen6745 4 роки тому
Ukraine dates back way back even before the Golden Horde.. Moscow was created in 1277 as a subservient vassal region or ‘ulus’ to the Golden Horde, established by the Khan Mengu-Timur. euromaidanpress.com/2014/05/14/how-moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-kyivan-rus/ By that time, of the Golden Horde creating Moscow the Ukrainians city of Kiev and the Ukrainians peoples the Kyivan Rus had existed for more than 300 years. Russia as we know it today NEVER SHOWED ITS UGLY FACE BEFORE 1721 and only in 1783 was Ukraine taken over by force by Catherine the great.. and her lover Gregory Potemkin proclaimed Novorossiya and declared himself the governor of this so called NEW Russia... Question Why proclaimed a NEW Russia if according to dimwits like you and other Russians that East Ukraine was always part of Russia __??? And what about the fact that in the Northern Wars and the in the battle of Poltava 27 June 1709 Ukrainian cossack was on the Swedish side fighting Muscovite tsar... I mean if there was no Ukraine or Ukrainians how is this even possible ?? Also lets not forget that Ukrainian Cossack-Polish War (1648-57). The conflict began in 1648 as a typical Cossack uprising but quickly turned into a war of the Ukrainian populace, particularly the Cossacks and peasants, against the Polish Commonwealth. Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky assumed leadership of the Ukrainian forces. The war can be divided into six phases. January-November 1648. In this period a series of brilliant Cossack victories aroused the whole Ukrainian people and won wide support for Bohdan Khmelnytsky. What was strictly a Cossack rebellion became transformed into a mass movement against the Polish. So there was a Ukraine and a Ukrainian people longe before Peter 1721 and long before Catherine 1783 Yes most of Ukraine was occupied by Poles but that does not mean that UKRAINE was Polish or that Ukrainians are ethnic polish.. DNA tests of Y chromosomes from representative sample of Ukrainians were analyzed for composition and frequencies of haplogroups. The Ukrainian gene pool includes the following y-haplogroups, in order from the most prevalent: R1a (43%), I (27%; mostly I2a), R1b (8%), E1b1b (7%), N3 (5%), J2 (4%), G (3%), T (1% Unlike Poles and Russians, Ukrainians have a high percentage of I2a, which is typical of the Balkan and Danube regions In terms of haplogroup distribution, the genetic pattern of Ukrainians most closely resembles that of Belarusians and Polish... In comparison to their neighbors the Russians the Ukrainians have a similar percentage of Haplogroup R1a (43%) in their population as do Poles... SO NO UKRAINES ARE NOT RUSSIANS OR POLISH !! www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CC%5CO%5CCossack6PolishWar.htm Here are the facts: At the time of the Kyivan Empire there was no mention of a Moscow nation in history Russia was not a part of history before 1721 when it was proclaimed be peter the grate It is well known that Moscow was created in 1277 as a subservient vassal region or ‘ulus’ to the Golden Horde, established by the Khan Mengu-Timur. By that time, Ukrainians city of Kiev and the Ukrainians peoples the Kyivan Rus had existed for more than 300 years. There are no indications of any connection of Ukrainians peoples the Kyivan Rus with the Finnish ethnic groups in the land of ‘Moksel’ what today we know as Russia or the later of the Moscow principality with the Principality of Kyivan Rus up until the XVI century. At the time when the Ukrainians peoples (Kyivan Rus ) had officially accepted Christianity, the Finn tribes in ‘Moksel’ today's Russia was still was living in a semi-primitive nomadic state. How can anyone speak of ‘an older brother’ when that ‘older brother’ did not first appear until centuries after Rus-Ukrainians? He has no moral right to call himself an ‘older brother’, nor to dictate how people are to live, nor to force his culture, language, and world views.
@robhansen6745
@robhansen6745 4 роки тому
RUSSIANS ARE NOT SLAVIC LIKE UKRAINIANS OR THE POLISH IT IS A MYTH !!! HER IS SOME MORE EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIANS ARE NOT SLAVIC AND ARE INFACT FINNO-UGRIC/ SAMI MIX WITH MONGOLIANS ukposts.info/have/v-deo/bpiAm3-chZymko0.html Sorry buddy but fact are facts !!! even if your friends from Finland dont like it it is still DNA and it is hard core evidence and even if Russians dont like the truth the truth is the truth like it or not ... it is a fact !!! Russians don’t like the truth but the truth is the truth like it or not ... it is a fact !!! Russians are no more Slavic then the Finnish are ethnic Scandinavian even if Finland is in Scandinavia they are NOT ethnic Scandinavians like Norwegians, Danish and Swedish people... in-fact they are Finno-Ugric and related ethnically to Hungarians and Estonians.. Take a look at this map and you will see even today the Finno-Ugric tribes are 90% in what today is Russia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Ugric_peoples#/media/File:Fenno-Ugrian_people.png Russians er nothing more then confused descendants of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians, back in the day… when the golden horde controlled all of what is todays Russian lands …Russians must have some sort of dimwit Syndrome thinking they are from Ukrainian Kiev Russ and Slavic background.. The DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are that Russians are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants and NOT Slavic like Ukrainians and Polish people ... The DNA evidence proves that Russians with out a doubt are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants .. Mongolian blood in Russians see link ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jp2ajaeni2ar03k.html THE R1a explanation for dummy's Russians have is R1a-Z93 and is the main Asian branch of R1a. Russians er nothing more then confused Mongolians that must have some sort of dimwit Syndrome thinking they are from Ukrainian Kiev Russ and Slavic background.. The DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are that Russians are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants and NOT Slavic like Ukrainians and polish people ... The DNA evidence proves that Russians with out a doubt are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants .. Mongolian blood in Russians see link ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jp2ajaeni2ar03k.html THE R1a explanation for dummy's Russians have is R1a-Z93 and is the main Asian branch of R1a. R1a1a1b2 (R-Z93) (Asia) This large subclade appears to encompass most of the R1a1a found in Asia R-Z93* or R1a1a1b2* (R1a1a2* in Underhill (2014)) is most common (>30%) in the South Siberian Altai region of Russia, cropping up in Kyrgyzstan (6%) and in all Iranian populations (8%) Western and Northern European and also western Ukrainians have R1a -Z284 falls under the root R1a1a1* (M417), So this proves Russians are Asian NOT Europeans.. Russians er nothing more then Mongolians with Down Syndrome thinking they are from Kiev Russ and Slavic background when the DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are they they are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendents and NOT Slavic... The Mongolian Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroup N -Z93 and is the main Asian and its offshoots are very common and the dominant gen among Russian men. Studies have found the ethnic Russian frequency of haplogroup N1c to be high with an average of 46.7% of Russians in the "Russia-DNA Project" , The characteristic genetic marker of peoples with Uralic background is haplogroup N1c-Tat (Y-DNA). Samoyedic peoples mainly have more N1b-P43 than N1c. Haplogroup N originated in the northern part of China in 20,000-25,000 years BP and spread to north Eurasia, through Siberia to Northern Europe. Subgroup N1c1 is frequently seen in non-Samoyedic peoples, N1c2 in Samoyedic peoples. In addition, haplogroup Z (mtDNA), found with low frequency in Saami, Finns, and Siberians, is related to the migration of people speaking Uralic languages will also find a small percent of R1a1a1g2. So this proves Russians are of Asian and Finno Ugric bold NOT Western Europeans.. The DNA evidence proves that Russians with out a doubt are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants .. Mongolian blood in Russians see link ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jp2ajaeni2ar03k.html RUSSIANS ARE ASIAN NOT EUROPEAN LIKE SLAVIC UKRAINIANS AND POLISH PEPOLE ARE !! The name ‘Moskovia’ where todays Russia really comes from .. is the key for proper understanding… up until the early 1700s, most maps, government documents and all other records throughout the territory of present-day Russia proclaimed themselves “Moskovia” (Muscovy). All the people considered themselves Moskovites. But Russians like Peter the Great trying to kick-start their country into contemporary Europe, Peter the Great searched for a more imposing pedigree (the word “Moscow” means “swampy or dark waters” in the ancient Finno-Ugric language). (Most of that area around Moscow and even todays St Petersburg was back them swamp lands.. Russians er nothing more then Mongolians with Down Syndrome thinking they are from Kiev Russ and Slavic background when the DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are they they are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendents and NOT Slavic... The Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Uralic origin and Mongolian origin Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroup R1a-Z93 and is the main Asian branch of R1a. and its offshoots are very common and the dominant gen among Russian men. Russians er nothing more then confused Mongolians that must have some sort of dimwit Syndrome thinking they are from Ukrainian Kiev Russ and Slavic background.. The DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are that Russians are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants and NOT Slavic like Ukrainians and polish people ... The DNA evidence proves that Russians with out a doubt are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants .. Mongolian blood in Russians see link ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jp2ajaeni2ar03k.html THE R1a explanation for dummy's Russians have is R1a-Z93 and is the main Asian branch of R1a. R1a1a1b2 (R-Z93) (Asia) This large subclade appears to encompass most of the R1a1a found in Asia R-Z93* or R1a1a1b2* (R1a1a2* in Underhill (2014)) is most common (>30%) in the South Siberian Altai region of Russia, cropping up in Kyrgyzstan (6%) and in all Iranian populations (8%) Western and Northern European and also western Ukrainians have R1a -Z284 falls under the root R1a1a1* (M417), So this proves Russians are Asian NOT Europeans.. Russians er nothing more then Mongolians with Down Syndrome thinking they are from Kiev Russ and Slavic background when the DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are they they are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendents and NOT Slavic... The Mongolian Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroup N -Z93 and is the main Asian and its offshoots are very common and the dominant gen among Russian men. Studies have found the ethnic Russian frequency of haplogroup N1c to be high with an average of 46.7% of Russians in the "Russia-DNA Project" , The characteristic genetic marker of peoples with Uralic background is haplogroup N1c-Tat (Y-DNA). Samoyedic peoples mainly have more N1b-P43 than N1c. Haplogroup N originated in the northern part of China in 20,000-25,000 years BP and spread to north Eurasia, through Siberia to Northern Europe. Subgroup N1c1 is frequently seen in non-Samoyedic peoples, N1c2 in Samoyedic peoples. In addition, haplogroup Z (mtDNA), found with low frequency in Saami, Finns, and Siberians, is related to the migration of people speaking Uralic languages will also find a small percent of R1a1a1g2. Mongolian blood in Russians SEE LINK ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jp2ajaeni2ar03k.html Mongols founded Russia or Muscovy (1328) SEE LINK ukposts.info/have/v-deo/l3OZin55g4OYpIk.html Mongols established Mighty Russia SEE LINK ukposts.info/have/v-deo/r6CfaZV7gHmoln0.html Russia, the successor of Mongol Empire SEE LINK ukposts.info/have/v-deo/a6Z6iWx8sIaBu40.html RuSSian myth about Ukraine and Crimea ukposts.info/have/v-deo/mn2Yno-cq6Jl0YU.html Mongols founded Russia or Muscovy (1328) ukposts.info/have/v-deo/l3OZin55g4OYpIk.html See link how Russia hijacked Ukrainian history www.euromaidanpress.com/2014/05/14/how-moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-kyivan-rus/
@robhansen6745
@robhansen6745 4 роки тому
TO understand how and why Russians, in fact, are if Finno-Ugric descent and are NOT Slavic decent /ppl. like Ukrainians and Polish ppl are, we first have need to look at where the Finno-Ugric ppl. came from and what is a Finno-Ugric people and their background culture, ancestry, geneticists... The Russian DNA is evidence that they (Russians are NOT white Europeans). Testes of today's Russian males DNA have shown that they, like their DNA brothers the Finnish people and share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians Finno-Ugric tribes are indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Polish and Ukrainians !!! A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread to today's Russia from Northern China about 12,000-14,000 years ago. Take a look at the facts about The exonym "Hungarian" comes from "Ugor".in 895 The Magyars/Hungarians belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance, and it is possible that they became its ethnic majority The Hungarian people refer to themselves by the demonym "Magyar" rather than "Hungarian". "Magyar" is Finno-Ugric from the Old Hungarian "mogyër". "Magyar" possibly derived from the name of the most prominent Hungarian tribe, the "Megyer". The tribal name "Megyer" became "Magyar" in reference to the Hungarian people as a whole Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people, in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals. The Turanid (South-Siberian) and the Uralid types from the Europo-Mongoloids were dominant among the conquering Hungarians .. And this is the same as you will find in Russians finish today !!! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians are clearly indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Ukrainians and Polish people .. The Hungarians like the Finish are of the same as Magyars what we today call Hungarian. (Magyar" is Finno-Ugric ) Four 10th century skeletons from well documented cemeteries in Hungary of ancient Magyar individuals were sampled. Two of the four males belonged to Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical clams that todays Finish and Hungarians come from Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call norther and eastern part of Russia .. The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric group Karelians, Finns, Udmurts and Komis. The traditional area of the indigenous Sami people is in Northern Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Northwest Russia and is known as Sápmi. Some other Finno-Ugric peoples have autonomous republics in Russia: Karelians (Republic of Karelia), Komi (Komi Republic), Udmurts (Udmurt Republic), Mari (Mari El Republic), and Mordvins (Moksha and Erzya; Republic of Mordovia). German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns were ‘mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory - that both the Finns and Sami had originally come from the East - as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina af Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other’.. He found that Sami, Estonian, Hungarian were from the same family but so were a series of languages across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ the Finno-Ugric peoples arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to what to day is Finland and northern part of Russia. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Finno-Ugric and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finno-Ugric have between 10 percent and a quarter mongoloid genes.. And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish and Russian propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the Mongolian ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’ Vladimir Lenin may have had Mordvin ancestry. There is a belief that President Vladimir Putin of Russia is potentially of Finno-Ugric Vepsian ancestry.. failures by Russians to never real get out it backward ways I think you can assigned to being "too Finish Urgic Mogoliish “ - meaning, primitive, backwards, culturally un-European. When Russians attempt to define their own race and assert that they are European it just comes over as false, and as fare as todays scientific research goes, we can now conclude with certainty, Russian are not white europeans it is a myth !!! Russians try too claim they are something they are not i!! Russians are NOT Western European (Russians have claim to be for a long time it goes back to Peter the great wish to be a European nation ) but it is nothing but a myth a type of fake nationalistic, myopic, backwardness , and unaccepting of objective truth that Russians are in-fact nothing more than dissidents of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back when the land of Moskal ( northern Russia ) was annexes by the Mongolians and made it a part of the Golden Horde… (unlike the Real slavic people the Ukrainians and polish people that never assimilated with Mongolian occupiers ) The Russian DNA is evidence that they are not white europeans. Testes of todays Russian males DNA have shows that they, like their ethnic brothers the Finnish people, share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! This has proven without a doubt that Russian are not European as they share their DNA with the Mongolians and the study also shows that no other Europeans (with the exception of Finno-Ugric people) share those same chromosome structor with the Mongolians like Russians do !! ..And why is this you ask .. Answer… because Russians are Finno-Ugric people that assimilated with Mongolians and NOT white Europeans like Slavic or Germanic people are.. Why is it so vitally important to find this proof you ask ? Answer… It shows a systematic falsification by Russia that started with Peter to falsify its history and links to Europe so Moscow can put down claim to the Kievan Russia history , cultural and lands !! What conclusion can we take out of all this data ?? 1. Russians are NOT slavic it is a myth !! 2. Russians are closer genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians 3. Slavic people like polish and Ukrainians are not genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians.. 4. Russians need to reevaluate their own history and except the facts that they are nothing genetically to do with slavic peoples heritage and therefor have no calm to slavic lands !!
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More evidence that Russians are linked top Finno-Ugric / Mongolians and not Slavic people like Ukrainians and Polish .. 1. Lets look at the city of Perm its Location is in Krai Russia Perm is a city and the administrative centerof Perm Krai, Russia, located on the banks of the Kama River near the Ural Mountains. The name Perm is of Finno-Ugric etymology, likely of Uralic origin (Komi-Permyak: Перем, Perem; Komi: Перым, Perym). Komi is a member of the Permic group of Finno-Ugric languages, which is also named for Perm. In Finnish and Vepsian perämaa means "far-away land"; similarly, in Hungarian perem means "edge" or "verge". The geologic period of the Permian takes its name from the toponym. Perm is located in the old Perman area, which was originally inhabited by Finno-Ugric peoples. Perm was first mentioned as the village of Yagoshikha (Ягошиха) in 1647; however, the history of the modern city of Perm starts with the development of the Ural region by Tsar Peter the Great. Vasily Tatishchev, appointed by the Tsar as a chief manager of Ural factories, founded Perm together with another major center of the Ural region, Yekaterinburg. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perm More DNA evidence 2. Mongolian man talking about Finnish DNA and Mongolian DNA Finnish DNA and Finland (Suomi) Finnish DNA and Finland (Suomi), Suomi and Saami, Uralic Language, Finno Ugric Group of Languages, Haplogroups in Finland: N1C -59%, I1A - 28%, R1A - 5%, R1B - 3.5%. Finnish - 80% Northeastern Karelian and 10% Siberian? N1C is not dispersed, but concentrated in Finland and Baltic. 1/3 Finnish words (lexicon) are authentic Finnish words, and unrelated to other languages. Unique. Origin of Finns is mysterious. Connection to Uralic peoples? My Nganasan DNA connection? ukposts.info/have/v-deo/bZxng2l9f3emrZs.html 3 This essay was first published in a collection by Yaroslav Dashkevych, PhD. in “Learn to Speak the Truth with Non-Lying Lips” - K:Tempora, 2011, 828pp. Yaroslav Dashkevych was a prominent Ukrainian historian, who during his long academic career wrote more than 950 works on Ukrainian historiography, source studies and special historical disciplines, Eastern Studies, Ukrainian-Armenian, Ukrainian-Turkish, and Ukrainian-Jewish relations.) In creating their nation, Ukrainians need to examine and analyze their own history, based on truth, verified facts and historical events. For centuries under the rule of conquerors, Ukrainians were basically deprived of the opportunity to influence the formation of national awareness and the development of their history www.timpul.md/en/articol/How-Moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-Kyivan-Rus--62339.html KARL MARX ....... "Russia, which has nothing to do with Kivan Russ, now called Russia, received, or rather stole its current name, at best in the 18th century, nevertheless - brazenly claims to the historical legacy of Kievan Russ, that was created eight hundred years earlier. Moscow history is the history of the Horde, sewn to the history of Russia with white threads and completely falsified. ”(Karl Marx, Exposing the Diplomatic History of the 18th Century) .. HER YOU SAY MARX SAYS MOSCVOY (today's Russia) IS THE DECEDENTS OF MONGOLIANS AND THAT KYIV (today Ukraine ) IS THE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVIC KYIV RUSS. " The bloody mire of Mongolian slavery, not the rude glory of the Norman epoch, forms the cradle of Muscovy, and modern Russia is but a metamorphosis of Muscovy.. www.gutenberg.org/files/32370/32370-h/32370-h.htm
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Evidence that Russia is lying about history !! In 12th century the land is first mentioned as Ukraine. Russia does not exist.. Nobody heard about Moscow and Russia at that time. Learn more impressive historical facts. The Chronicle includes several components: Lavrentian Chronicle, the Tale of Bygone Years, Chernihiv, Kyiv, Galician-Volhynian Chronicles which described the events from 860’s to 1292’s. Sources of the chronicles are diverse: Palatine chroniclers, palatine letters, ambassadors’ reports, military tales, stories of bystanders, the Greek chronicles and so on. Ukraine is mentioned for the first time in the Tale of Igor’s Campaign against Polovtsy in 1185. Many sources identify Kyivan Rus with Ukraine. In some versions, such as Ermolaevsky list (1189-1213 years), Ukraine is called Krajina (country), in Kyiv chronicles - Galich Ukraina. Also, the name ‘Ukraine’ is mentioned in connection with the death of Pereyaslav Knyaz Volodymyr Glebovich, later in the description of events during Galician-Volyn Knyaz Danylo Romanovych regiment. Something like that. What historical data will help to clarify Ukraine and Russia backgrounds. Higher education institutions: the Russian Academy of Sciences was founded in 1724, Moscow University in 1755. Ostroh Academy was founded in 1576 in Ukraine, the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy was established in 1615 and Lviv University in 1661. First printed ABC book in Ukraine was published in 1574 in Lviv, and in the Tsardom of Russia it happened 60 years later in 1634. Religion: Kyiv Metropolia was founded in the year 988, and Moscow Patriarchate only in 1458. Kyiv Metropolia is 460 years older than Moscow ones. Capitals: Kyiv is one among the oldest cities in Europe and was founded in 482, while Moscow was founded in 1147 by Yuriy Dolgoruky, the son of Volodymyr Monomakh. So, Kyiv is older than Moscow by 665 years. The first monarch who was crowned in the Tsardom of Russia was Ivan the Terrible in 1547, and in Ukrainian lands it was the first king of Rus’ Daniel of Galicia in 1253. Mongol yoke: Kyiv lost the Mongolian yoke in 1363 after the Battle of Blue Waters; Moscow lost yoke in 1480 after great standoff on the Ugra river, and Muscovy paid tribute to the Crimean khan till 1700, including the first years of Peter the Great reign. Name: For the first time, the term ‘Ukraine’ was found in the chronicles in the year 1187. Term ‘Russia’ was found only during the reign of Ivan the Terrible 400 years later. Last, but not the least, famous Ukrainian Pylyp Orlyk is the author of one of the first constitutions in the world. On April 5th, 1710 he was elected as a hetman. On the same day he announced a ‘Pacts and Constitutions of Rights and Freedoms of the Zaporizhian Host’. Worth mention, that the U.S. constitution was adopted in 1787. In France and Poland it was adopted in 1791. What historical facts you should know on Ukraine and Russia origins. 1. A state called Muscovy Peter the Great renamed in Russia in the 18th century, in 1721. (so todays Russia did not show its ugly head before 1721 before that it was muscoviya ) 2. The tribe called Mokshas named their river Moskva, and the translation of the title from the Moksha language sounds like ‘dirty water’. In any other languages of the world there is no translation for the word ‘Moscow’. The word ‘Kremlin’ has Tatar roots and stands for fortifications on the hill. 3. In the Middle Ages all European cartographers wrote and marked the frontier of Europe along the borders of Rus (Rus is a territory of present-day Ukraine). Muscovy is Ulus, with its Finnish people, has always been a part of the Horde, and was referred to Asia by Europe. 4. Muscovy (Russia) paid tribute to the Crimean Khan, its sovereign ruler and master, who was the legal successor of the Golden Horde, until 1700. Tsar of Muscovy met Crimean ambassador on Poklonnaya Hill, put him onto the horseback, walked on foot himself leading the horse with the Crimean ambassador to the Kremlin, put him on his throne, and stood up in front of him on his knees. 5. In 1610, in Muscovy Borys Godunov (Murza Gudun) ended the Genghisids dynasty (Genghis Khan’s relative), and Olexiy Koshka from the Finnish family of Kobyliny was enthroned, and the church gave him the surname Romanov, who allegedly came from Rome to rule Muscovy. 6. Catherine the Great, after the occupation of Grand Duchy of Lithuania (territory of Belarus), the last free state of Kyiv Rus’, in 1795, ordered to name Finno-Ugric tribes of Muscovy Great Russians, and Ukrainians (true Rus citizens)- Little Russians. 7. No one has ever seen the original agreement on the reunification between Muscovy and Ukraine, allegedly signed by B. Khmelnitsky and Tzar A. Romanov. 8. For several centuries, archaeologists have been looking for artifacts, confirming the authenticity of the Battle of Kulikovo, but so far without success. But they pitch a yarn about the victory of Dmitry Donskoi over Mamai until now. 9. Pskov, Novgorod, Smolensk regions of Russia are former Slavo-Ruthenian Principalities, and Finno-Ugric Muscovy had nothing to do with this, until Muscovy-Horde occupied them in 1462, in 1478 and in the 1654. And in other areas of Russia (Muscovy) Slavic tribes and peoples have never lived. 10. Golden Horde and her daughter Muscovy are the only countries in the world that enslaved their own people. This explains why rich in natural resources Muscovy falls behind the European countries with lack in natural resources. After all, the effectiveness of the free people is much higher than the slaves. The myths of the Russian national consciousness suffered a new blow! First, the study of the gene pool of the Russian people, conducted by Russian scientists in 2000-2006 showed that genetically Russian are not Slavs, but true-born Finns, that have no difference from Mordovians. According to the information from the Moscow-based Center of Lev Gumilyov, Russian scientists for the first time in history conducted Russian gene pool research and were shocked by the results! These studies also fully confirmed that the Russians are not Slavs, but only Russian-speaking Finns. Results of the mitochondrial DNA analysis showed that another Russian nearest relatives, except the Finns from Finland are Tatars: Russians are on the same genetic distance of 30 conventional units from the Tartars, which separate them from the Finns! Russian scientists ended the issue concerning myth of the ‘Slavic roots of Russians’: there is nothing from Slavs in Russians! There is only Slavic Russian language, but it has 60-70% of non-Slavic language, so Russian people are not able to understand the language of the Slavs, although the true Slav understands any language because of the similarity of Slavic languages (except Russian). There are Russians in Russia, but not Rus. There always was and will be only Kievan Rus ! empr.media/culture/history/first-mentioned-ukraine-russia-not-exists/
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