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Desmond Howard and Mark Sanchez discuss why Ohio State QB Justin Fields is behind BYU QB Zach Wilson in Todd McShay's 2021 NFL Draft Rankings.
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 676
@NoodLe-mo1lf
@NoodLe-mo1lf 3 роки тому
“And I took that personally” -Justin Fields
@zachchilds1447
@zachchilds1447 3 роки тому
Ever watched a BYU game? I don’t think so
@NoodLe-mo1lf
@NoodLe-mo1lf 3 роки тому
@@zachchilds1447 calm down. I was making a joke because Fields cooked Clemson after this
@zachchilds1447
@zachchilds1447 3 роки тому
I like the joke
@NoodLe-mo1lf
@NoodLe-mo1lf 3 роки тому
@@zachchilds1447 Do you actually think Wilson is better though?
@zachchilds1447
@zachchilds1447 3 роки тому
@@NoodLe-mo1lf yes I do
@robalexander9652
@robalexander9652 3 роки тому
Keep it up. Falcons will gladly take him. Same thing they said about Patrick and Watson.
@jackwest6644
@jackwest6644 3 роки тому
I feel like something might go wrong with how Fields left Georgia, and the bitterness from the Falcon and UGA fans
@michaelstover6778
@michaelstover6778 3 роки тому
No one said anything about Patrick people didn’t know about him it
@hkt1296
@hkt1296 3 роки тому
Or maybe he’ll be just like all the other OSU qb’s😂😂
@smcgruder4853
@smcgruder4853 3 роки тому
Come home
@godisgood3805
@godisgood3805 3 роки тому
@@michaelstover6778 That's the point! As a scout, you have to identify the best talents and make a case for each. So he was not even on the scouting reports which makes it worst.
@natesinger2680
@natesinger2680 3 роки тому
Wow, this has just aged amazingly
@johoward2251
@johoward2251 3 роки тому
No Fields doesn’t have “Hope Insurance” so these geniuses will have him below as many as possible
@quezothaking6743
@quezothaking6743 3 роки тому
i’m here after justin fields showed out against clemson. zach wilson better than who ?!!!
@johoward2251
@johoward2251 3 роки тому
Wilson, Herbert, Burrow and Lawerence have “Hope Insurance” Fields doesn’t
@samuellolango9720
@samuellolango9720 3 роки тому
@@johoward2251 and what exactly is hope insurance?
@johoward2251
@johoward2251 3 роки тому
@@samuellolango9720 Do your research 🔬 😉, it gets referenced on Dontaesboxingnation YT channel
@Darkheart68
@Darkheart68 3 роки тому
@@johoward2251 🤣🤣🤣
@joramusic602
@joramusic602 3 роки тому
@@johoward2251 how do you know who has “hope insurance” and who doesn’t.
@dylancochran5552
@dylancochran5552 3 роки тому
After tonight’s game, he’s going 2nd overall
@wavecheck1959
@wavecheck1959 3 роки тому
I dont think the jets want him
@choogafantastic5946
@choogafantastic5946 3 роки тому
(Here after the sugar bowl) This already isn’t aging well...
@gglucs1799
@gglucs1799 3 роки тому
Let's see how it goes when the next season starts. If the 49ers or the Panthers draft Wilson, it'll be much better for him than for Fields(if he got drafted by the Jets)
@murph4lyfe
@murph4lyfe 3 роки тому
@@gglucs1799 the guy could be sitting behind stafford for a year honestly.
@mr.roders1662
@mr.roders1662 3 роки тому
Have people seen Wilson play? He’s made amazing throws this season. As for Fields he had two struggling games, but the narrative can change if he plays well against Clemson this Friday. Doesn’t even have to win, but if he keeps it competitive he’ll be ahead of Zac in the following draft stock. At the end of the day these are all opinions. Basically every QB in this draft class is a baller and is going to help their team. Let’s not get offended, see where these kids go and hope they succeed.
@jovanalexander1556
@jovanalexander1556 3 роки тому
He lost to Coastal Carolina tho
@brian2440
@brian2440 3 роки тому
@@jovanalexander1556 That doesn’t really mean anything
@jonbitter395
@jonbitter395 3 роки тому
@@jovanalexander1556 True. It was a bad game for him. But a bad game for him meant 63% completion rate, 1 interception off a hail mary garbage throw at the end of the first half, 240 yds passing and 55 yds rushing. Both of those guys are legit. Let guys who get paid for it worry about how their bad games and good games MIGHT translate into NFL performance.
@jonbitter395
@jonbitter395 3 роки тому
@Octavian At first I thought you were being sarcastic... but last years class was pretty good, so maybe you actually think Lawrence, Fields, Wilson, etc don't make up a good group of QBs? If it was just Lawrence by himself, that would make it a worthwhile QB class.
@deandrewwalker315
@deandrewwalker315 3 роки тому
Who has byu played? And didn't byu lose to coastal Carolina? Smh
@geraldos9094
@geraldos9094 3 роки тому
Desmond Howard after seeing Fields against Clemson.....now Fields must beat Bama by 50 to be in his Top 5.
@amarirasheed6
@amarirasheed6 3 роки тому
Good let Fields fall to a good team with a veteran QB
@cartyparty69
@cartyparty69 3 роки тому
Falcons need to draft him wit that receiving core he can be great
@keybeenleakin7138
@keybeenleakin7138 3 роки тому
!!!!!
@princewill3
@princewill3 3 роки тому
@@cartyparty69 nah I need Carolina to go get him
@Hengel_Andrews
@Hengel_Andrews 3 роки тому
That’s my thought exactly!
@clarencewalder2985
@clarencewalder2985 3 роки тому
Yes I am hoping Tampa bay draft's him or Atlanta Falcons. Not Desmond homer Howard!
@edgebull1
@edgebull1 3 роки тому
Great analysis Sanchez!!!
@johnruiz6743
@johnruiz6743 3 роки тому
Sometimes it's better for the player when they do not get drafted as high as projected. Then there isn't so much pressure and expectation right out the gate. Then they are able to develop and adapt to the pro level game assuming they are capable.
@jjmanning4395
@jjmanning4395 3 роки тому
Preach sanchez.
@AOKP
@AOKP 3 роки тому
great analysis by mark
@Faze9784
@Faze9784 3 роки тому
These are the same people who said Mayfield and Darnold>>>>>Allen and Jackson
@idkwhatsgoingon4584
@idkwhatsgoingon4584 3 роки тому
Darnold also got drafted by the Jets, no Qb surives being drafted by the Jets
@Faze9784
@Faze9784 3 роки тому
@@idkwhatsgoingon4584 Sanchez did well before he regressed off the map
@playahdub5287
@playahdub5287 3 роки тому
@@idkwhatsgoingon4584 and allen was drafted by bills
@idkwhatsgoingon4584
@idkwhatsgoingon4584 3 роки тому
​@@playahdub5287 but they actually built around Allen, Gase just knows how to ride the coattails of an already good team, he can't even build one himself, but as 2020 showed, destroyed one
@PrestigeSteeler
@PrestigeSteeler 3 роки тому
@@Faze9784 Darnold is a franchise Qb And was a way better prospect than Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson
@alexnious705
@alexnious705 3 роки тому
Oh recency bias I see where u was going with that statement about Haskins
@Goutes
@Goutes 3 роки тому
Wilson didn’t play bad against CC he didn’t throw 5 touchdowns but he didn’t play bad
@miraclewhipdominoes556
@miraclewhipdominoes556 3 роки тому
agreed. His receivers had some bad drops too
@jameswaltower9419
@jameswaltower9419 3 роки тому
Desmond, how many QBs has Clemson developed that translated into NFL success? I'll answer that. Only 1; Watson. So you draft players based on what other players have done?
@KevinWidesouls
@KevinWidesouls 3 роки тому
Exactly. On the flip side, are we going to assume a QB from Cal is good because Rodgers and Goff went there? However, I can see this logic working for other positions in certain cases. If there is a starting DLineman from OSU in the draft, I'd expect him to be well-coached and polished for as long as Larry Johnson is at the school coaching that position group.
@Hengel_Andrews
@Hengel_Andrews 3 роки тому
Desmond is a doodoo bird, his takes are doodoo. No college program has Successfully developed successful NFL QBs. Who do you credit for Arod Bute, Cal or the 3 years on the bench in GB? It’s dummies like him who watched Mahomes and said “let’s pass on this guy because Graham Harrell”.
@RASTAGOOB
@RASTAGOOB 3 роки тому
And him and Trevor Lawrence is better than any qb products coming out of osu... COLLECTIVELY!
@mitchellajieroh
@mitchellajieroh 3 роки тому
@@KevinWidesouls yea the only scenario in which the program stigma doesn’t work is with QBs cuz that’s the hardest position to get and skill sets and play styles vary
@Hengel_Andrews
@Hengel_Andrews 3 роки тому
@@RASTAGOOB collectively how many QBs came out of BYU? I don’t even care about good, how many total?
@TheF3kids
@TheF3kids 3 роки тому
Just YT people being YT people. This happens every year.
@skr1llaboyrico592
@skr1llaboyrico592 3 роки тому
Thank you mark sanchez
@haven2moses556
@haven2moses556 3 роки тому
Media doubting these Black QBs What else is new Mahomes Watson Wilson Lamar Just get ready to add Fields to this club He falls in the draft that will only make him that much deadlier Kid can play I dont care what anyone says Fields can play
@al1410
@al1410 3 роки тому
Here we go "Black"
@TheTom7878
@TheTom7878 3 роки тому
Some of the most exciting QBs in the league are black, but I see this as more of an Ohio State thing. I can’t remember the last good QB they produced. J.T Barrett, Terrelle Tryor, Cardale Jones, and Dwayne Haskins come to mind. The don’t coach these kids and their athletic ability isn’t enough on its own at the NFL level.
@DTS_I
@DTS_I 3 роки тому
Zack Wilson would not have put up that kind of performance against Clemson last night.
@jackwhite4091
@jackwhite4091 3 роки тому
Yeah he would of done better. Zack Wilson makes throws some NFL qbs cant make
@thelaststylebender8215
@thelaststylebender8215 3 роки тому
@@jackwhite4091 nah he couldn’t even have a decent game vs coastal he would’ve got destroyed vs Clemson.
@miraclewhipdominoes556
@miraclewhipdominoes556 3 роки тому
@@thelaststylebender8215 well yeah when your receivers drop the ball
@miraclewhipdominoes556
@miraclewhipdominoes556 3 роки тому
he's got some of the best receivers in college football, none of the clemson safeties or corners could cover them. He made lots of average/decent throws and a couple of good ones and that got him his performance.
@DTS_I
@DTS_I 3 роки тому
@@jackwhite4091 dude couldn’t even beat Coastal lmfao
@deemoney9376
@deemoney9376 3 роки тому
Who does byu play though
@JaRW7
@JaRW7 3 роки тому
When playing against similarly talented teams Fields has put up numbers as good as or better than Wilson. It's hard to compare their numbers against top rated teams because Wilson hasn't played a Clemson or even a Northwestern. Given the performance at Coastal Carolina, I wouldn't expect a lot. It is more about Fields falling than Wilson rising. I don't love either of them. I would expect Fields to be the better NFL QB on day 1 but Wilson could be better in the long run. We'll see.
@fwd105
@fwd105 3 роки тому
Mark was spot on, look at the body of work.
@quencybarnes7912
@quencybarnes7912 3 роки тому
They hating on fields bad this year. He has had really one bad game. Everybody was quiet when Lawrence got spanked by LSU👀
@jaywilliamson3991
@jaywilliamson3991 3 роки тому
@Kyrie Irving well he just spanked Lawrence now what lol
@jeremywhite9316
@jeremywhite9316 3 роки тому
We all know why they hate on Justin fields! It had nothing to do with anything on the field!
@DTS_I
@DTS_I 3 роки тому
They’re quiet now too
@calebtalks2009
@calebtalks2009 3 роки тому
This didn’t age well I love when analysts overreact.
@simeonehambrick8470
@simeonehambrick8470 3 роки тому
Tbh, I prefer if Fields slides to a better team in the first round. Fit >>> draft number
@dirtybirdxx
@dirtybirdxx 3 роки тому
The broncos could use him like yesterday.
@simeonehambrick8470
@simeonehambrick8470 3 роки тому
@@dirtybirdxx Fields and Jeudy could be a good-great young duo
@justarandominternetdude2579
@justarandominternetdude2579 3 роки тому
If this is the actual narrative Fields should be ok with this. For the simple fact the chances of being drafted by Jets are lowered.
@jonbitter395
@jonbitter395 3 роки тому
Agreed. I'm a BYU fan and I freaking love Wilson. I'd rather see him drafted 14-20th and go to a team that isn't going to destroy his career.
@teji2087
@teji2087 3 роки тому
@@jonbitter395 Pats gonna take him 14
@stanhawkes3569
@stanhawkes3569 3 роки тому
I love both of these QB's and teams.
@12ZekeS
@12ZekeS 3 роки тому
Mark Sanchez analyzing QBs is really just ironic.
@PrestigeWorldwid3
@PrestigeWorldwid3 3 роки тому
He won two playoff games his rookie year and then went to the AFC championship game his second year but I guess that means nothing
@itisnottaken4444
@itisnottaken4444 3 роки тому
@@PrestigeWorldwid3 it really does because the defense carried him. Could’ve put any QB behind that defense and he would’ve done well
@PrestigeWorldwid3
@PrestigeWorldwid3 3 роки тому
@@itisnottaken4444 That is such a weak reasoning. Someone’s gotta score the ball and a kid that only spent one year in college did it for them two years straight. It’s just the cool thing to hate on Mark Sanchez for some reason.
@itisnottaken4444
@itisnottaken4444 3 роки тому
@@PrestigeWorldwid3 that’s not a weak argument as it’s the truth. He was a star in college that got afforded the opportunity to play behind a top 3 defense his first 3 years. The defense also lead the league in forced turnovers which gave the offense the field position necessary to score. Sanchez wasn’t very good overall but at his best he was mediocre.
@Tarntydon22
@Tarntydon22 3 роки тому
@@itisnottaken4444 He’s definitely qualified to give insight; give the guy his due- he made it to the highest level. there’s only so many pro bowl QBs it’s not like he’s uncle rico from napoleon dynamite
@joramusic602
@joramusic602 3 роки тому
There are 2 differences. Fields can throw to a person in motion while Wilson’s receiver has to wait for the ball to come down and Fields runs while Wilson runs when he needs too. Both are even in passing ability but Fields is good at running. Also, Trey Lance is underrated. Nobody talking bout him. Check out his highlights. While Zach Wilson is good on the field, people said he is not nice off the field. Reports have said he is a spoiled brat, which may effect the team and get him suspended for some games and then the team he is on will lose their star QB for a couple of games due to suspension. Then the trash backup (not necessarily trash) will come in. The the team might lose some games. I think Justin Fields should get picked before him because he has a better personality and he is better and makes a play most of the time. It’s more exciting to see Justin Fields with the ball because he’s not the type to throw away, while Zach is, Fields is the type to evade a sack, break some tackles, and then spin in to the endzone. What am I doing here writing a paragraph about two college football QBs. Nobody probably gonna read it anyway, and even if they do, they wouldn’t care. So Fields overall, they’re evenly good but Fields is able to make bigger plays when nobody expects him to and he has a better personality. Oh yeah, Fields did something last night that Wilson could probably never do, blow out Trevor Lawrence.
@moejoe6797
@moejoe6797 3 роки тому
Trey Lance is definitely a sleeper I have been telling people this for the longest
@yellowmartian
@yellowmartian 3 роки тому
The Zach Wilson being a spoiled brat thing was debunked. that idea came from a disgruntled former high school coach that ended up pissing off all the parents of the players of his team.
@joramusic602
@joramusic602 3 роки тому
@@yellowmartian really? Reports said he was rumoured to be a brat
@gladec3896
@gladec3896 3 роки тому
Those negative remarks on Zack from nameless people were false. Hes very smart, competitive, learns and sees field quickly. Will be the best down the road of the three
@joramusic602
@joramusic602 3 роки тому
@@gladec3896 cool.
@Apache32D
@Apache32D 3 роки тому
Happens when Indiana picks you off 3 times in one half and get sacked 5 times
@jaybrown3341
@jaybrown3341 3 роки тому
What was the score at halftime?...asking for a friend
@motivationrus7071
@motivationrus7071 3 роки тому
Flieds has 8 picks in his college career lawrence literally had 8 picks in one season
@donaldtrumplost1477
@donaldtrumplost1477 3 роки тому
@@jaybrown3341 nothing to do with draft status
@buckeyechuck8280
@buckeyechuck8280 3 роки тому
@@manmug183 In how many more games? Not a very good argument
@buckeyechuck8280
@buckeyechuck8280 3 роки тому
Lol, guessing your a salty Indiana fan? Too bad cause we gave your team a ton of respect and have been talking you guys up against the B1G haters out there this year. They would probably prefer you to switch your allegiance
@funk516
@funk516 3 роки тому
Aged very well
@connerdewey8652
@connerdewey8652 3 роки тому
Zach Wilson is the man
@dylanthomas9409
@dylanthomas9409 3 роки тому
He is no Justin Fields but he still good
@TheF3kids
@TheF3kids 3 роки тому
Yt people being YT people.
@novatron2818
@novatron2818 3 роки тому
@@dylanthomas9409 because he’s better that JF
@jumpstreet2425
@jumpstreet2425 3 роки тому
@@novatron2818 no
@jumpstreet2425
@jumpstreet2425 3 роки тому
@@novatron2818 who better now?
@MrJROOTS99
@MrJROOTS99 3 роки тому
Desmond literally hates osu lol
@davel8033
@davel8033 3 роки тому
He has lazy analytical skills. I'm surprised he can string a sentence together.
@AJthe13th
@AJthe13th 3 роки тому
I respect him for sticking to his roots lol
@Hengel_Andrews
@Hengel_Andrews 3 роки тому
I thought I was the only one who thought that and I’m not a Ohio alum or even biggest fan, but Howard is a moronic. Talking about Ohio not having a history of developing QBs, like there is ANY college program that has historically produced QBs. Oh I forgot BYU produced Taysom Hill
@itssnoopy333
@itssnoopy333 3 роки тому
@@Hengel_Andrews exactly
@9noch
@9noch 3 роки тому
@@Hengel_Andrews name one good Ohio St QB in the nfl
@johoward2251
@johoward2251 3 роки тому
3:33 I not a racist but ..... but 😂 Hey Howard
@greggee9062
@greggee9062 3 роки тому
Only Mark Sanchez makes any sense. Racism alive and well in college football
@gbaker1a775
@gbaker1a775 3 роки тому
Ohio State has literally never produced a good NFL QB, why would you jump to racism?
@followhim1203
@followhim1203 3 роки тому
@@gbaker1a775 brainwashed by liberal media which unfortunately controls sports media as well
@stretch1025
@stretch1025 3 роки тому
Who here after he obliterated clemson?
@miraclewhipdominoes556
@miraclewhipdominoes556 3 роки тому
when he obliterated them with bad throws and good receiving play? Yeah. Zach has looked better than justin fields all season
@stretch1025
@stretch1025 3 роки тому
@@miraclewhipdominoes556 bad throws? First of all they were all on point.. second he was injured on his throwing side so what game did you watch😭😭
@miraclewhipdominoes556
@miraclewhipdominoes556 3 роки тому
@@stretch1025 I gotta say it was good, but there were lots of throws that receivers had to wait for or make great catches. Yeah, he was injured, but that doesn't make him a better player than zach. I don't know which players you have been watching all season. If you watched zach's bowl he carved up the offense with perfect throws all around.
@cooldudecs
@cooldudecs 3 роки тому
No team is going to risk him after Dwayne haskins
@stretch1025
@stretch1025 3 роки тому
@@cooldudecs “no team” 😭😭 he’s in the top 10 on every board stfu and he’s clearly better than Dwayne so why not
@itisnottaken4444
@itisnottaken4444 3 роки тому
So using Desmonds logic, Trevor Lawrence shouldn’t even be considered as Dabo Sweeney has only had 1 QB have success in the NFL.
@dba_luke1327
@dba_luke1327 3 роки тому
Clemson has only been around for like 10 years
@Man-cv5ws
@Man-cv5ws 3 роки тому
@@dba_luke1327 they have more natty’s than Georgia and earned 1 in 81.
@thesublimeparadigm8863
@thesublimeparadigm8863 3 роки тому
He didnt say that was the deciding factor he was just saying its something to take into considration
@HANGTIMEV
@HANGTIMEV 3 роки тому
Zack wilson impresses me with his game more than fields, on top of that BYU doesnt have the top tier recruits that ohio state does which is often overlooked
@jonbitter395
@jonbitter395 3 роки тому
Not to mention, Wilson's less stellar stats from 2019 were created with an injured throwing shoulder. He only went back in to play because BYU would've been using their 4th string quarterback if stayed off the field to heal completely.
@insiderjokevids
@insiderjokevids 3 роки тому
Wilson had like 2 days to prepare for CC before having to travel there, and he was a yard short of winning.
@bobbymahaffey6778
@bobbymahaffey6778 3 роки тому
Every year they miss on QBs from Dak, lamar, Allen, menshew, even this year Herbert was to raw needed a year or 2 to adjust I thought he would be good because he's suppose to be smart and had a big arm. I mean dang you watch these guys either they can play or they can't. If you listen to these guys herbert wouldn't even had seen the field this year. It was all tua and burrow Herbert wasn't on there level is what they said I do believe
@horatiohornblower3757
@horatiohornblower3757 3 роки тому
This entire segment is just meaningless. The only thing anyone got out of this is the news that Todd McShay put Wilson 1 spot above Fields. The rest was just fluff words either agreeing or not agreeing. "Only lost 1 game as a starter" Come on, one guy plays for Ohio State, the other plays for BYU. BYU has not been very good over the past few years, for many reasons outside of Wilson's control. Put Fields on BYU, and Wilson on Ohio State and Wilson has just as good of record.
@cooperlee630
@cooperlee630 3 роки тому
I like your thought process
@brandonblackshear9154
@brandonblackshear9154 3 роки тому
Good assessment
@deandrewwalker315
@deandrewwalker315 3 роки тому
How do you know? The competition is way harder in the big ten! While byu plays teams like nevada and san jose State facts
@horatiohornblower3757
@horatiohornblower3757 3 роки тому
@@deandrewwalker315 There's no way to know, obviously. But if you've seen Zach Wilson play, is there doubt that he would be successful as a QB on OSU? And if you've watched BYU play over the past few years, do you think Justin Fields is leading that team to the playoff? Looking at both of them, it's clear they both have huge upside, and it's really just a matter of what the Jet's think about which QB will work better in their scheme. Regardless of who gets taken first, they'll both get a chance to prove what they got. As a BYU fan, I would definitely prefer Zach to drop to a better team than just have been a higher draft pick.
@williamhaber4382
@williamhaber4382 3 роки тому
This is a freezing cold take now!
@monsutaman1
@monsutaman1 3 роки тому
lets see how this ages lol... Stay tuned folks....
@zoyxing
@zoyxing 3 роки тому
It didn't.
@zoyxing
@zoyxing 3 роки тому
mb too early
@zoyxing
@zoyxing 3 роки тому
mb too early
@freeindeed8416
@freeindeed8416 3 роки тому
Spoiled
@kylemontague980
@kylemontague980 3 роки тому
Zach Wilson is a better QB. Period. Frankly, I’m not sure it’s close.
@jamaalyoung5971
@jamaalyoung5971 3 роки тому
6 td against Clemson bru
@jalenc233
@jalenc233 3 роки тому
Still?
@grimfryggdrasil6098
@grimfryggdrasil6098 3 роки тому
Yeah, against shitty competition lmao
@keithprater2011
@keithprater2011 3 роки тому
Why are Ohio state quarterbacks still ranked so high?? Have we not learned our lesson??
@marcallen1621
@marcallen1621 3 роки тому
If you've watched justin Fields and look at that Northwestern game as anything other then the exception then you shouldn't be evaluating talent. He has enough film that he doesn't drop from 2 to 9 because of a game. Trever lawrence struggled early last year. Then he didn't throw well vs Ohio State. Finally he played poorly against LSU. However, T Law had too much film to think he was any thing other then great. This is the same thing. Justin Fields has been incredibly efficient and productive in an offense were his usage isn't crazy high. His numbers could be even more eye popping on a another team.
@jackwhite4091
@jackwhite4091 3 роки тому
Ok but you can say the same thing about Zack. Put Zack on any of these top 5 teams and he would look like a God.
@marcallen1621
@marcallen1621 3 роки тому
@@jackwhite4091 what evidence of that do you have? He's had 1 good year against subpar teams. Maybe you're right, but you're projecting vs what wr know to he true about fields. We've seen fields against high level competition.
@jackwhite4091
@jackwhite4091 3 роки тому
@@marcallen1621 yeah but that's not Zacks fault. He plays for a smaller school. They said the same about Josh Allan. Dude is legit. This kid makes throws some NFL guys cant make. He goes through his progressions faster then anyone I ever seen. I wouldn't be surprised after evaluating these QbS for the next 4 months he will go number 1 overall. I'm telling you right now
@marcallen1621
@marcallen1621 3 роки тому
@@jackwhite4091 it is his fault that he was a 3 star. I'm not saying that means everything. But when ppl say that's not his fault that isn't true. Also, it's nearly impossible to compare a QB at BYU to one at Ohio State or GA or one of the big schools. You can say those QBs have better weapons but they are also up against pro level defenders as well. Having a high level DE baring down on you cannot be simulated. Josh Allen is good, but also in a great situation. If knowing only what we knew about Josh Allen on draft day, I'd take Lawrence and Fields ahead of him in this draft. And based on what I know about those two, I believe they would be successful on that Billls team.
@jackwhite4091
@jackwhite4091 3 роки тому
@@marcallen1621 I dont even know how to respond to that lol.. again idk how much football you watch. Take care. Whoever ur team is good Luck
@davel8033
@davel8033 3 роки тому
Fields has a 74% completion rate for his career and people are saying he's trash. LOL. He may set the Big Ten conference record.
@tremaynemillner
@tremaynemillner 3 роки тому
sam bradford holds the nfl record for best single szn completion percentage... take from that what you want
@tremaynemillner
@tremaynemillner 3 роки тому
also he’s not necessarily trash but he’s underperforming by a mile he should be dominating and he’s not
@tremaynemillner
@tremaynemillner 3 роки тому
@Mr Mann actually no i didn’t cuz i didn’t because he was a pro style qb with one good year at a powerhouse which is why i didn’t think trubisky would even go top 20 let alone 2. But haskins isn’t a bad player he’s just not a leader he’s the definition of putting himself first.
@tremaynemillner
@tremaynemillner 3 роки тому
@Mr Mann but I agree I’m not a fan of osu qbs
@brian2440
@brian2440 3 роки тому
@Mr Mann Mostly true, except for Joe Germaine from the 1999 Draft. All Pro QB and NFL Super Bowl Champion. Ironically BYU now has more QBs on an active NFL roster than Ohio State
@harryhotep_
@harryhotep_ 3 роки тому
when either one of them falls to the Falcons 🥰
@mcncheese69
@mcncheese69 3 роки тому
Welcome zack the jets sure need u
@randomrandomrandom5402
@randomrandomrandom5402 3 роки тому
Mark Sanchez said it best gms and scouts are going to evaluate their body of work. Desmond Howard mentioned player development but BYU last great/good qb was who? Recency bias is crazy
@stevenrondina9628
@stevenrondina9628 3 роки тому
Steve Young went to BYU
@randomrandomrandom5402
@randomrandomrandom5402 3 роки тому
@@stevenrondina9628 I’m aware but they aren’t known for producing nfl prospects let alone qbs.
@blazingfrypan415
@blazingfrypan415 3 роки тому
John Beck and Taysom hill were their last best QBs before Z.wilson but there have been other players that they build out of 2- lower 4 star athletes in other positions because the higher 4 and 5 stars go to bigger schools. Jamal williams (RB), Kyle Van Noy (Lb), Daniel Sorenson (SS) Michael Davis (Cb) Fred Warner (lb) Sione Taikitaiki (lb). All from Byu still play starting roles not to mention others on practice squads like the kafusi brothers. Byu has the reputation to produce Cleaner and safer players with their background. NFL teams just want the typical SEC 5 star athletes more
@randomrandomrandom5402
@randomrandomrandom5402 3 роки тому
@@blazingfrypan415 I watched more tape on him. He’s probably the best quarterback in this class. He’s got an cannon of an arm his ball placement from last year has greatly improved and he has repeatable throwing motion
@ABruhMan
@ABruhMan 3 роки тому
As a Lions fan, I’ll take either one
@amnapoliamericanmuscle9162
@amnapoliamericanmuscle9162 3 роки тому
Nothing new just like Lamar Jackson or Mitch Trubisky going over Deshawn Watson. 🤷🏾‍♂️ What has Mitch done. Watson was on his way to being rookie of the year before the injury.
@amnapoliamericanmuscle9162
@amnapoliamericanmuscle9162 3 роки тому
@Octavian I know he went to the team that was best for him. What I'm talking about is how they are treated before the draft. The only team in the NFL that wanted LJ as a QB is the team he plans for. For Watson he dethroned Bama once and the first meeting I'd say cheated out of that win.
@howarddukes9270
@howarddukes9270 3 роки тому
ESPN: Breaking news on of our employees Todd McShay changed a made up board so we can have a talking point 🤣
@jackwhite4091
@jackwhite4091 3 роки тому
Zack and Smith are the best players in football. Zack can make any throw and goes through his reads like a veteran NFL QB.
@thelaststylebender8215
@thelaststylebender8215 3 роки тому
Nope Lawrence, lance and fields are better
@soulrebel223
@soulrebel223 3 роки тому
Good, let him drop in the draft so he can go to a good team. 💯
@soulrebel223
@soulrebel223 3 роки тому
@Fred Wright Any of these players could possibly end up a bust. We can't tell the future but... Going to an all around good team/organization helps tremendously!
@catjuice8420
@catjuice8420 3 роки тому
I'll take fields over Trevor and Wilson.
@lukegrant3201
@lukegrant3201 3 роки тому
If you think Zach Wilson didn’t play well against CC, you’re box score scouting Mark. Kid was ridiculous and hampered by 4 drops and a 92 yard TD called back. Happy for them to dock him points for games last year with a hand injury, coming off shoulder surgery too 👍🏼
@mcncheese69
@mcncheese69 3 роки тому
collage stats mean nothing how many good teams does ohio state play
@christophermirkovich7290
@christophermirkovich7290 3 роки тому
Zach Wilson best quarterback in the draft NFL ready his mechanics are unbelievable and he can throw darts from 10 yards away to 60 yards on the money
@justinalley3399
@justinalley3399 3 роки тому
zach wilson has played against bad defenses all year his first 3 years in college hes was terrible fields has had only had 2 bad games
@johnnyjets2343
@johnnyjets2343 3 роки тому
Fields was a 5 star recruit 2nd only to Lawrence. Wilson was a 3 star recruit who is small and already has had major shoulder surgery. Who you play against matters and Fields has had the tougher opponents no doubt.
@cjmarthins1128
@cjmarthins1128 3 роки тому
@@johnnyjets2343 felids is surrounded by 5 star talent, you also have to take that into account, and I’m not saying he’s better or worse, but pay attention to those things
@christophermirkovich7290
@christophermirkovich7290 3 роки тому
@@johnnyjets2343 Wright was an is we're talking about right now who did Ben Roethlisberger play with what about Tony Romo small conference quarterbacks yet they still made it to the NFL which means competition doesn't matter his accuracy his footwork his mechanics are way better than Justin fields or Trevor Lawrence you have to look at the game tape look at the player don't look at the win
@christophermirkovich7290
@christophermirkovich7290 3 роки тому
@@justinalley3399 that's the difference he is the king feels is surrounded by Khalid Lawrence they pull them out of games they're still winning games Zach Wilson is the engine that makes BYU offense run elevates others can't say that with Fielder Lawrence
@Iwollf74
@Iwollf74 3 роки тому
If I were Justin Fields I would come back for my senior year.
@Royrose644
@Royrose644 3 роки тому
Why would u risk injury for another year when u can be a top 5 or at the lowest top 10 in this draft?
@amarirasheed6
@amarirasheed6 3 роки тому
If I were Ivor Whitehead I would eat a piece of Dodo
@Iwollf74
@Iwollf74 3 роки тому
@@amarirasheed6 Really.
@Iwollf74
@Iwollf74 3 роки тому
I would recommend that he do that because of the 2 other QBs that went into NFL before that didn't do well. Him having another 12 games in college would give him a better foundation to succeed in the NFL. He's had 1.5 years as a starting QB in college that all I'm saying.
@Iwollf74
@Iwollf74 3 роки тому
@Max Kellerman How is the dumb? When he could come back for 1 more year to work on his craft and go the NFL. Lawrence has 3 years as a starter Fields will have 1.5 years. Those QBs that have 3 or more years as starters in college are the one that a most successful in NFL.
@zoomsday3999
@zoomsday3999 3 роки тому
Why the commentators so offended by Todd Mcshays opinion. The NFL teams that are doing the draft might have a completely different order of who they think the best quarterback is.
@fromtheraq3898
@fromtheraq3898 3 роки тому
I wish the bears could draft up for Zach wilson
@anthonynazzaro4859
@anthonynazzaro4859 3 роки тому
He reminds me of jim McMahon anither product of BYU.
@cdf2885
@cdf2885 3 роки тому
this aged well haha
@princewill3
@princewill3 3 роки тому
Clearly the media just be talking Justin fields was a heisman finalist last season. Lawrence on the other hand was not. 40 touchdowns to 1 pick in 2019 season that’s Insane. Yeah he’s not having a good year so far but there’s factors like COVID , not having his full team, and only playing 6 games so he has to press it’s not like he has room for error. I hope he falls to #4 so Carolina can grab him ! We’d love to have you Brodie
@mekhealjames3065
@mekhealjames3065 3 роки тому
Justin Fields Shut Todd Mcshay up & made Kirby Smart look Stupid FACTS No cap
@geraldos9094
@geraldos9094 3 роки тому
Fields often gets pulled early in blowouts.
@aternis3597
@aternis3597 3 роки тому
Same with Wilson😂
@Lord-ox9wj
@Lord-ox9wj 3 роки тому
@@aternis3597 and fields played better competition
@aternis3597
@aternis3597 3 роки тому
@@Lord-ox9wj not really, Ohio states strength of schedule was in the high 60s, BYUs was in the low 70s
@ViN-kr3ri
@ViN-kr3ri 3 роки тому
Like others have said, after Fields picked Clemson apart noone in their right mind is going to prefer Wilson, and if Coastal Carolina can make him look very ordinary what are the likes of Ohio st and Bama going to do. Fields is in a different league to Wilson.
@grimfryggdrasil6098
@grimfryggdrasil6098 3 роки тому
Fields better than all these mf’s.
@4thQuarterMentality
@4thQuarterMentality 3 роки тому
Let him slide so he can go to a contender
@jaybrown3341
@jaybrown3341 3 роки тому
🎯🎯
@jaybrown3341
@jaybrown3341 3 роки тому
@Fred Wright a bust in college...wow👍🏽
@jaybrown3341
@jaybrown3341 3 роки тому
@Fred Wright 👍🏽
@mitchellajieroh
@mitchellajieroh 3 роки тому
@Fred Wright please explain
@mitchellajieroh
@mitchellajieroh 3 роки тому
@Fred Wright who would u consider drafting first then......cuz let’s say u draft Mac Jones 1st and he doesn’t develop....then u look even worse cuz u reached AND he’s a bust
@addacusfinch1510
@addacusfinch1510 3 роки тому
Desmond is absolutely correct!
@mikemitchell385
@mikemitchell385 3 роки тому
Coming back to school.paid off for zach Wilson
@2002S40
@2002S40 3 роки тому
Ohio State exposed TLaw as pedestrian at best.
@BZman7
@BZman7 Рік тому
Wilson bust, Jones ?, Lawrence & Fields 🔥
@delacruztaylor
@delacruztaylor 3 роки тому
It's pretty obvious, of all the OSU QB's to come out recently, who became a starting QB. He's surrounded by countries best players, playing in a average conference. I wouldn't even pick him in the 1st round.
@whynot5486
@whynot5486 3 роки тому
So the Chiefs wouldnt draft Mahomes bc of the others Texas Tech qbs?
@BG-fh5me
@BG-fh5me 3 роки тому
Doesn’t really matter what stats are looking like. That doesn’t mean nothing it’s all bout intangibles. Look at josh Allen college stats and tell me he played like an elite qb. Fields has more intangibles IMO but Wilson looks good too
@ourfragrancejourney3911
@ourfragrancejourney3911 3 роки тому
Inserts Mac Jones 😏
@coachdudesportstv
@coachdudesportstv 3 роки тому
Mac needs to go back .....Roll Tide
@addacusfinch1510
@addacusfinch1510 3 роки тому
Justin Fields is overrated. This comes as no surprise.
@enochdagoat3596
@enochdagoat3596 3 роки тому
a player has a bad game or two and people start saying they are overrated 🤦‍♂️ feel bad for they players cuz of fans like yall
@IsmokeHiphopLive
@IsmokeHiphopLive 3 роки тому
how has he been overrated? i feel some of you white boys been reserving to say this LOL....trevor had some bad games too dude.
@trell25
@trell25 3 роки тому
@@IsmokeHiphopLive facts they hate to see a black man succeed
@novatron2818
@novatron2818 3 роки тому
@@trell25 that has nothing to do with this. Take that somewhere else.
@trell25
@trell25 3 роки тому
@@novatron2818 nah I’m keeping it right here.
@johndoe-dg5cs
@johndoe-dg5cs 3 роки тому
It don’t matter who goes first 2nd or 3rd all that matters is who actually prevails in the NFL which will be Justin Fields 💯
@smackflack5771
@smackflack5771 3 роки тому
Byu QB should be #2. Hes a gun
@jovanalexander1556
@jovanalexander1556 3 роки тому
Dude he put up 17 pts vs Coastal Carolina calm down
@jorgelopezjr1991
@jorgelopezjr1991 3 роки тому
@@jovanalexander1556 when has he thrown 3 ints in a game tho? and his supporting cast is a bunch of virgins. not ohio states weapons LOL
@brian2440
@brian2440 3 роки тому
@@jorgelopezjr1991 He threw 3 INTs all season
@lincolnmaceachern2410
@lincolnmaceachern2410 3 роки тому
Howard ( and Dabo ) probably have Fields not being drafted at all.
@blackairangel
@blackairangel 3 роки тому
Zach Wilson has a grest talent & discipline...
@jmiami89
@jmiami89 3 роки тому
He sucks!
@anthonywadlington6529
@anthonywadlington6529 3 роки тому
Ohio State produces more first rounders than any other college including Alabama. Last year Jeff Burrow Chase Young and Jeff Okudah. I know Jeff Burrow played at LSU, but he came from The Ohio State.
@kennethchapman9564
@kennethchapman9564 3 роки тому
If this is actually correct which I highly doubt, Justin will get drafted by a lot better team than Jacksonville or the Jets, it's not that first contract it's that 2nd one. Mahomes went to a playoff team and look how that worked out. Darnold got drafted #3 and now it looks like Jets going on from him. I pretty much ignore Desmond, an extremely biased Michigan guy. Haskins wasn't being developed or being coached up properly. Look at difference between Baker Mayfield and before when now he has an legit head coach.
@vinnyb3978
@vinnyb3978 3 роки тому
I agree with everything you said Except for Haskins. He was a bonehead Ron Rivera is a good coach and Haskins dug he own grave.
@raptorz139
@raptorz139 3 роки тому
Fields needs to go to a place where their is a experienced; seasoned veteran QB so he can learn and be mentored, Lions, Falcons, Texans, Cowboys, those are places he can learn and develop into a good QB, is just isn’t ready to he a immediate starter, he needs time
@buckeyechuck8280
@buckeyechuck8280 3 роки тому
I completely agree with this. He has the tools, he just needs more guidance and the mentoring you talk about
@mitchellajieroh
@mitchellajieroh 3 роки тому
Why would he go the Texans or the Cowboys Especially with them having Deshaun he would never start a day in his life unless Deshaun dips
@raptorz139
@raptorz139 3 роки тому
@@mitchellajieroh thats not the point, he needs to me mentored by a experienced QB, both Deshaun and Dak are seasoned and know how to play well, it’s not about being a starter for him, it’s about learning and becoming a good QB, if he gets drafted by the Jets or Jags he will be QB immediately; which due to the way he plays against good defenses I doubt he will do well
@yugiyami8642
@yugiyami8642 3 роки тому
All those organizations you mentioned are dysfunctional, best bet is to drop to new england.
@raptorz139
@raptorz139 3 роки тому
@@yugiyami8642 yeah that’s also a option, cam is a experienced QB
@hanzotherazor1995
@hanzotherazor1995 3 роки тому
Remember when everyone was shocked when the Giants took Daniel Jones before Haskins?!?! Nearly everyone thought it was the dumbest move in the draft. When they get to the NFL combine they will get the tale of the tape and metrics down. If he crashes and burns against Clemson, it might be wise for Fields to come back to Ohio State for another season. Especially if his draft stock drops him out of the big money. I think he is still a first round pick, but he lacks polish and experience. He best bet is to get drafted buy a team that has a established starter and can develop him into a top tier NFL QB.
@hanzotherazor1995
@hanzotherazor1995 3 роки тому
The NFL gives the Wunderlick test and can have prospective players meet with psychologists, although it rarely occurs. They do background checks on prospective players all the way back to High School. Every wonder why a player falls out of the 1st round after being labeled a sure thing? The NFL finds out if you have any bad habits, run ins with the law, surrounding yourself with bad people and check your study habits from high school and college. But they really cannot catch them all. The NBA does the same thing, ever wonder why there are so many Eastern European players now, while you see 6’ 9” all Americans playing at the local park? Bad personality or bad habits.
@godisgood3805
@godisgood3805 3 роки тому
Russell Wilson 75, Aaron Rodgers 24, Lamar Jackson 32, Drew Brees 32, and Tom Brady 199 didn't even get the recognized early in the draft and look at what they have accomplished so far. The scouts have bias and they need to accept that fact if they want to be as accurate as they can possibly be.
@foxydog4589
@foxydog4589 3 роки тому
Dominant college team qbs from college to NFL have to learn to play with twice the pressure, half the time to throw, to half the size windows. Better off taking a over achieving qb on a bad team
@_franchised_
@_franchised_ 3 роки тому
Zach Wilson played who again?
@kaidclark8147
@kaidclark8147 3 роки тому
I watched all 12 byu games this year even in the cc game they lost that cheap shot at half the whole team cleared to defend wilson that says your a leader...just something that says about his character..his throws were right on the money..look i love fields i think both guys our a tossup at the 2 wb spot
@tonyrd43
@tonyrd43 3 роки тому
I don't understand what it means when they say Zach Wilson is the no. 2 QB, but No. 8 overall, or how Justin Fields is the No,3 QB but No. 9 overall. Should those two things be the same?
@michaelbarrister429
@michaelbarrister429 3 роки тому
No. Completely different. Lawrence will go #1, but between him and the next quarterback taken there could be some linemen taken, or other positions. So It could be Lawrence, some linemen, receives, then Wilson, for example.
@yugiyami8642
@yugiyami8642 3 роки тому
They mean overall
@menofyah7934
@menofyah7934 3 роки тому
Anyone remembers Trevor's bad games last year against Texas am and LSU? Apparently not
@user-vx2fw7qe1n
@user-vx2fw7qe1n 3 роки тому
GOOD OL’ SUNSHINE
@brandonlegan7506
@brandonlegan7506 3 роки тому
They judged Justin to harsh! He only had 6 games he definitely didn’t get to practice nearly as much as the other qbs in other conferences
@MrBossuporbowout
@MrBossuporbowout 3 роки тому
First of all Justin Fields is way more proven than Zach Wilson and furthermore Justin Fields is really UGA QB 5 star that wasn't even suppose to be at Ohio state and secondly Urban Myers didn't prepare QBs in the past so Justin Fields shouldn't even be compared to Dewayne Haskins
@jjmanning4395
@jjmanning4395 3 роки тому
What is this guy talking about? I forget how many games Ohio's lost were Justin shield
@jumpstreet2425
@jumpstreet2425 3 роки тому
@John Gautreaux the big 10 is 1 or 2 with conferences so they definitely play somebody's yearly. And as you see every big 10 team has won they bowl games vs sec and other conference's...
@michaelwallin4959
@michaelwallin4959 3 роки тому
I agree with all three. They all make great points. Does Ohio state have a professional quarterback problem? They do! Name me a great quarterback from Ohio state in professional football in last 30 years. Jones, Pryor, Haskins too soon, schlister, kern. Last two are old school. Running backs yes! Quarterback no
@badazzmo3127
@badazzmo3127 3 роки тому
Name 1 QB that shined in OSU and it translated in the NFL 💆🏾
@manmanonamission5955
@manmanonamission5955 3 роки тому
That’s a bs argument you can use that against joe burrow or drafting desaun Watson and even drafting pat Mahomes
@b-radfromtheboo7205
@b-radfromtheboo7205 3 роки тому
Desmond is just hating Osu had 23 players out vs northwestern
@JDuBzOfficialPage
@JDuBzOfficialPage 3 роки тому
Hope Wilson lands on the 49ers
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