Recessed Lighting Install with No Attic or Prior Wiring

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How to Install Recessed Lighting with no attic access or existing wiring! DIY Can Lights
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@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
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@hamzagarmaje7898
@hamzagarmaje7898 3 роки тому
I want to work in the electricity business
@hamzagarmaje7898
@hamzagarmaje7898 3 роки тому
@@kaykay037 Could you please help me?
@nancyrao3511
@nancyrao3511 2 роки тому
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@archerkayson7892
@archerkayson7892 2 роки тому
Sorry to be off topic but does anyone know a method to log back into an Instagram account?? I was dumb lost the password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me
@brysonpatrick9209
@brysonpatrick9209 2 роки тому
@Archer Kayson Instablaster :)
@user-neo71665
@user-neo71665 2 роки тому
A hint from an electrican, don't tuck the lights up in the ceiling until you have the switch installed and you can make sure they work. Some designs of these led are not real easy to get back out once installed and can damage the sheetrock.
@gigglesaregood
@gigglesaregood Рік тому
I just learned this the hard way...........oops.
@weeeeehhhhh
@weeeeehhhhh Рік тому
Do you have regulations for fire rated recessed ceiling lights?
@user-neo71665
@user-neo71665 Рік тому
@@weeeeehhhhh All depends on the local area and the type of building. Sparkys go by the national electric code (NEC) that is part of the national fire protection association (NFPA). At the end of the day the local code enforcement has to adopt it and enforce it. A "good" electrician will at least do the minimum the NEC calls for. There are some areas that some of us might think are not enough so we will do more.
@jemmabarls
@jemmabarls Рік тому
@@user-neo71665 Do you have a tip for getting them out though? Our electricians installed them but one of the lights is set to the wrong temperature and it's driving me nuts. But alas, not easy to get out and I just finished repairing/painting the ceiling before I noticed the temp issue.
@user-neo71665
@user-neo71665 Рік тому
@@jemmabarls it all depends on the mounting style. Without seeing it or even knowing I have dealt with the style before I can't say.
@Eggsther
@Eggsther 3 роки тому
Drlling the hole with the dust all collected on the bowl is just so ✨SATISFYING✨
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
that dust bowl is amazing!
@taylormcintyre5759
@taylormcintyre5759 3 роки тому
Forbidden pancake mix
@reissallan
@reissallan 3 роки тому
Make sure your ceiling fan blades do not cross the light coming out of the LEDs or else your entire room will become a strobe light.
@ronohlsi2262
@ronohlsi2262 2 роки тому
🎶Boots & pants🎶
@leahj6175
@leahj6175 2 роки тому
I'm actually living with that uneducated decision as we speak. smh Good advice, Allan! Hindsight is 2020
@greenidguy9292
@greenidguy9292 2 роки тому
Staying alive, staying alive…
@charlesking4843
@charlesking4843 Рік тому
Ohh man. I have this issue. It's super annoying!
@crowbaril903
@crowbaril903 Рік тому
The rule of thumb is 5 feet from the edge of the blade
@romondoalexander8851
@romondoalexander8851 Рік тому
Third video now that has skipped the one part i actually care to see! How the wires feed into the lil boxes and how to daisy chain them off each other..
@sandymiller6467
@sandymiller6467 Рік тому
This is what I am also wondering. I have existing lights and want to add more
@romondoalexander8851
@romondoalexander8851 Рік тому
@@sandymiller6467 We just did them in my kitchen. Super easy. A. Buy the right size gage wire. (Either 12 or 14) my white wire was 14(smaller of the two 1. Turn breaker power off to lights in that room 2. Go to wire. Cut it and snip some off the ends to feed wires into the lil wire connectors that come with the light (in the lil box. They are awesome and super easy) match colors. 3. Cut a new piece of wire (the length youll need to reach next light whole) fray it and go from first box to second box. 4. Repeat until done 5. Turn power back on and enjoy! I got a pen that checks current just to be sure (klein brand if i remember)
@heyyheyyhannah5217
@heyyheyyhannah5217 Місяць тому
@@romondoalexander8851would it be easiest to connect an existing ceiling fan at the end of the circuit?
@TemperVoid
@TemperVoid 2 роки тому
Love how you go through each and every step in your process! Even the steps that don’t go quite as planned. It’s the perfect way to help teach problem solving and working around roadblocks.
@jesusislord6545
@jesusislord6545 2 роки тому
Repent to Jesus Christ “Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭9:25‬ ‭NIV‬‬
@woodworksbygrampies1284
@woodworksbygrampies1284 3 роки тому
Great video. Thanks for not rushing through it and explaining everything thoroughly. I especially liked the mock up to show options depending on circumstances. Continued success!
@pemtax557
@pemtax557 2 роки тому
Excellent video ... very well explained, demonstrated and produced. I'm a huge fan of LED lighting and surface mount lighting like this really revolutionizes projects like this. Thank you so much for taking the time to do such a wonderful job of sharing ... Cheers Mate!!
@betaorionis78
@betaorionis78 2 роки тому
This video is awesome! I have the same scenario but put off installing recessed lighting because thinking there’s so much more into it. But this video with the wafer lighting is a perfect solution👍🏽 Thanks so much now I know what to do.
@trackrat62
@trackrat62 3 роки тому
The algorithm has showed me some of your videos before and I've watched a few, however this video is incredibly timely as I'm about to do this in my basement. Subscribed.
@zpan5972
@zpan5972 2 роки тому
Pro tip: when drilling the holes on the ceiling, put the drill in reverse first. Cut about 1/3 into ceiling, then switch back and finish the job. This way you would have a much smoother cut, and avoid banging your head with that drill!
@Grumpyskater
@Grumpyskater 2 роки тому
Thanks for that!!
@leokendall
@leokendall 2 роки тому
@@Grumpyskater or if you chuck has a torque setting try turning it down so if it do hook, it don't knock your teeth out.
@chrirule
@chrirule 3 роки тому
I put those exact lights in my kitchen remodel! I love them!! I put 10 in the kitchen and its definitely not too many.
@how2q
@how2q Рік тому
Wow...know this took a while to put together...thank you! Great information. Just wanted to confirm some ideas i had of how this would go. Making the mock up and going through how you would do it if you didn't have easy access was great - again thank you for painstakingly going through it all!
@WideAwakeHuman
@WideAwakeHuman 2 роки тому
Having done electrical work on existing homes... It would be AWESOME if it was a standard to make a schematic for the entire home that stays with the panel for all the future owners
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 2 роки тому
that would be heavenly!
@_Yourlocalelectrician_
@_Yourlocalelectrician_ 2 роки тому
People already don't want to pay electricians. Imagine the extra cost labeling every little wire into a diagram. And where it's running throughout the house. Builders would never hire someone like that. Builders use the cheapest guy for profits
@johnhorning2506
@johnhorning2506 Рік тому
I’ve been making one for my house because nothing matched the panel!
@WideAwakeHuman
@WideAwakeHuman Рік тому
@@johnhorning2506 ikr... I've never seen one that was actually accurate
@AndrewDeLong
@AndrewDeLong 3 роки тому
You may not be a licensed electrician, but I've taken a home wiring course or two, with one, and you could have fooled me. You clearly do your homework.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
I know enough to be dangerous 😀
@jasonmorgan8825
@jasonmorgan8825 3 роки тому
As an electrician for 30 years, you did a very good job with the video and explanation. Only suggestion would be using 14-3 from light to light etc. You then could of carried both the hot and the switchleg to the existing outlet and convert the switched outlet to unswitched.
@Bapuji42
@Bapuji42 2 роки тому
I thought he was keeping the 14-3 to the outlet and just splicing in 14-2 to run to the other lights.
@marist89
@marist89 2 роки тому
yes. I would have cut the 14/3 about half way between the first light and second light. Then I would have used 14-3 between the two lights on that side and taken the other half of the run to the outlet and just abandon the red and replace the outlet with a non-broken outlet. Then I would have just run 14/2 to the other two lights. If the boxes for the wafer lights didn't have enough space for all the connections, I would have put a regular jbox up there. And I would have connected it with wire nuts, not those push-in connectors.
@godofwar4271
@godofwar4271 2 роки тому
14-3 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣
@Bapuji42
@Bapuji42 2 роки тому
@@godofwar4271 ?
@cjj-er5ip
@cjj-er5ip 2 роки тому
@@marist89 Yep that is the thing to do. Kind of fixed one problem and created a new one. Would of put a pancake box in for the fan why I was at it as well.
@KodiakWoodcraft
@KodiakWoodcraft 3 роки тому
Thanks for the awesome instructional! The mock-up on the bench made it way easier to follow along.
@jasoncoleman2940
@jasoncoleman2940 3 роки тому
Awesome video, Brad! I appreciate you mixing it up with some of these home improvement DIY videos. And great tip on "never drill blind" because did just that last Fall and nearly drill right into a live 20amp cable feeding an outlet on another wall. My advice when feeding down to a existing box (switch or outlet): just pull out the new work box nailed to the stud & replace it with an old work box. They're easy to cut out with an oscillating multi tool & saves you one drywall patch job!
@88lundful
@88lundful 2 роки тому
20 amp outlet XD damn
@Digidoc316
@Digidoc316 2 роки тому
These wafer lights are SO easy! Since they are IC rated and rated for damp locations, I installed four of them in my front soffits as wash lights and put one in my bathroom above the shower! As an added bonus, I used one in my closets to satisfy the electrical inspector; they don't protrude into the space so there is no concern with the lights getting broken and starting a fire. Also, the LED uses so little power, I actually see the difference in my bill!
@brendanellerholz7434
@brendanellerholz7434 Рік тому
Hilarious how you mention not forgetting anything in the ceiling! Once I was installing lights just like these and when I was finished I went to take a picture for the client and remembered I was using my phones flashlight while pig tailing some wiring in the ceiling and left it up there! Thank goodness these are super simple and even easy to disassemble!
@emilolguin3087
@emilolguin3087 3 роки тому
Great mockup of the wall. Note that if you're working on an older home - the walls might have horizontal blocking at 48"~52" from the floor preventing you from passing the wire to the new electrical box, as many electrical boxes are set at 45"~48" on center. This would require you to cut another access hole above the block and drill a hole for the wire to pass through. Last summer (covid project) I remodeled our bathroom and used the wafer lights above the toilet and shower areas. They're fantastic as they give plenty of light and are so easy to install. The best quality of light for a bathroom is from the 4000K fixtures. I also used clear silicone to seal the light. Oh yeah, I left my wire strippers up in the attic too! One more thing, if you're going to put a ceiling fan up you have to be careful not to place too many or too close to the fan because you'll get a strobe effect (been there, done that)!. And you may find that the light from the ceiling fan is disappointing compared to the wafer lights.
@progression_decibel
@progression_decibel 2 роки тому
What Kelvin (K) is recommended for other areas like a) kitchens b) living room and bedrooms and c) hallways? Aside from a specific use like watching a movie or something, I strongly dislike 2700K as an always-on temperature - it feels too dim and 70's looking to me.
@Emily-lk1mf
@Emily-lk1mf 2 роки тому
@@progression_decibel 3k is pretty typical, 4k is good for bathrooms as its a much whiter light. We never install 2700k unless ppl ask for it, its way too dim
@natefoster
@natefoster Рік тому
It’s personal preference as well, we have 2700 throughout our house and love it, feels cozier to us.
@SSChambers1
@SSChambers1 3 роки тому
Dude, wafer lights are absolutely amazing. I installed a drop ceiling in our laundry room and wanted recessed lighting over cheesy looking fluorescent. Because of how high I needed to make the ceiling, it was super close to the joists and was impossible to install true cans. Picked up some 3/8" thick 6" wafers and love them. They even have an in-line switch to change the light color (K) to change from cooler or warmer.
@philshock3805
@philshock3805 3 роки тому
Same brand I bought and installed about 8 months ago, Brad. I used them for my exterior soffits and porches though, not indoors ... 5 - 6 inch lights and 6 - 4 inchers to replace existing can lights. They are awesome! Many reasons for the swap but a big motivator for me was to eliminate places for wasps and mud daubers to take up residence which were a constant battle - the solid flush mount works great for that. In addition, not only do they look great and provide great lighting, they save you money too! They've all had a lot of use but the 4 inch lights have been run over 8+ hours every night since install and not a hint of trouble. Great choice!
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
good to hear! Hoping this will last the life of my house (our at least the life I'm here)
@jesusislord6545
@jesusislord6545 2 роки тому
Repent to Jesus Christ “Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭9:25‬ ‭NIV‬‬ h
@chrinamint
@chrinamint 2 роки тому
@@jesusislord6545 WTF?
@MEG020
@MEG020 Рік тому
@@jesusislord6545 can you please don’t bring Bible quote into something that has nothing to do with salvation, what you are doing is making people stay away from believing who Jesus really is. There is a time and place for it, Religion is pushing away people from the truth of the work of the cross, the love that forgives all sins and from salvation for a new life in Jesus Christ. FYI I am a believer and follower of Jesus. Be blessed!
@heatharmstrong5279
@heatharmstrong5279 9 місяців тому
​@@jesusislord6545get lost
@loricraig3306
@loricraig3306 3 роки тому
I just purchased for a rental remodel, they look incredibly easy. As a short, 60yr lady with MS, I need easy with anything on a ladder, over my head.🤞🏻
@jarrelljulien5673
@jarrelljulien5673 3 роки тому
I had the same situation in my previous house with joists and not trusses. I did mine a little different though. I only used one light to avoid having to use a flex auger and get myself in trouble drilling blind. I connected my light to constant power off a nearby light switch. Only had to make two small holes right next to the top plate to bring the wire up, one in the wall and one in the ceiling and went around the top plate, then hid the wire using the crown moulding I had to take down to get there. Next added a wireless light switch kit I found online. It had a relay that used 120V and a rocker switch that replaced any light switch but didn’t need power. It was kinetic and got power whenever the switch was flipped.
@tighecrovetti2844
@tighecrovetti2844 3 роки тому
Those wafer lights are one of the greatest modern inventions. No cans, low heat, low draw, great looking......all around win. I installed, I think, a total of a dozen of them in my finished basement.
@robertmarts6810
@robertmarts6810 2 роки тому
We've been installing them for 6 years now. If a client wants the traditional cans, they have to request them.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 роки тому
Great job Brad. Cheers!
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
Thanks, Jeff! Definitely used your video as guidance and running the drill backwards was such an awesome tip I wanted to pass it on 💪💪
@jamesmacintyre1415
@jamesmacintyre1415 3 роки тому
See Jeff wealth of info. The DIY encyclopaedia
@jonnytse
@jonnytse 3 роки тому
The Legend himself.
@Mika30041975
@Mika30041975 3 роки тому
😉
@bluegenie840
@bluegenie840 2 роки тому
Jeff is here guys 😅😅
@heyitsbroski
@heyitsbroski 3 роки тому
OMG! I've been looking for a video like this for a long time! My 2-story doesn't have much room between the floors, so I have the same layout.
@franklinhadick2866
@franklinhadick2866 2 роки тому
VERY nice, I'm looking at replacing my old (1980's) Can cieling lights and this just makes my job easier, thanks.
@josephspina7827
@josephspina7827 3 роки тому
Many ways to do this, but as an experienced electrician in your situation i would have turn off the power to the wire reached into the ceiling light hole closest to the outlet cut the wire with enough access to make a splice (outside the ceiling) in an approved box , pull the rest of the wire out of the first hole (near the switch) to make another splice in a sec box. And replace the wire between the two ceiling light holes.
@Bapuji42
@Bapuji42 2 роки тому
I'm not sure I understand. Where would the boxes go?
@macsmith2092
@macsmith2092 3 роки тому
I am putting recessed lights in my kitchen. I hadn't seen the wafer lights before. I had never seen the dust collecting bowl either. Thanks for sharing. Very timely for me.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
Glad it was helpful!
@michaelbingham-hawk1906
@michaelbingham-hawk1906 3 роки тому
I replaced all of the existing pots lights with these and I have installed several where none existed. I love these lights.
@juancarlosorozco2005
@juancarlosorozco2005 4 дні тому
Same reaction I had after installing downlights in various places in my house. So satisfying!!!
@exodusoh
@exodusoh 3 роки тому
Doing this this weekend with my buddy (he’s a union electrician so it should speed things up), thanks for the video and the links!
@andrewbrown8148
@andrewbrown8148 3 роки тому
Great upgrade, Brad~! That's a great alternative to installing the old conventional can lights. Especially when you have a 2-story house. Thanks for the video~!
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
yes, perfect situation to use them in!
@IrrationalBstrd
@IrrationalBstrd Рік тому
Most 2 story houses are not constructed like this, and he didn't show that. Most of the time in a 2 story house, you would not be able to do this so easily on the 1st floor ceiling, because you have joists that you'd have to drill through to get wire between the lights (there's a room above that, and the floor of that room is on the top of the joists. The ceiling of the first floor is directly in the bottom of those same joists and they are solid). That means you would have to cut holes in the ceiling on each side of every joist so that you can drill each them and be able to pass the wire through to the next light in st least one direction coming from the first light that is powered from the switch. You'd have a ton of holes to patch and paint in the ceiling (and possibly re-texture and blend in, if there's a ceiling texture). Plus the two holes you cut, that he showed, to get the wire from the switch through the top plate of the wall to get into the joist space).
@DellAnderson
@DellAnderson 2 роки тому
Great video editing pace and I had to take a double take on your split screen showing your 'twin' helping! One thing to keep in mind is that the code requires 1/16" steel backing plates (I think that is the term) to protect wires running closer than 1 1/4" to the surface of the 2x4 so it might be better to move the cable before drilling rather than drill near one side or the other of the 2x4 framing. Those plates would be nearly impossible to install as old work.
@kdm0425
@kdm0425 2 роки тому
This explained my red wiring around the house better than anything I found. Thank you!
@rockybass9764
@rockybass9764 2 роки тому
Nice video, thanks. The LED flat lights are nice and save a lot issues you noted with the old style cans. Not sure if I want to try this or not, it’s still a lot of work. Plus all the drywall patch and paint.
@roberthirsch1146
@roberthirsch1146 3 роки тому
Great tip to run in reverse. Wish I would have know it before I did my ceiling.
@michaeldouglasmason
@michaeldouglasmason 3 роки тому
A quick fix to re-power the receptacle is to pull the slack end of the 14/3 to the pot light closest where the plug is. Run an additional wire between that pot and the first light brought the 14/3 to. You then can continue the constant power to the plug. Would be even better if you use 14/3 between those two lights. Much easier for box fill.
@frankgiardina4877
@frankgiardina4877 2 роки тому
You are the first one to correctly explain how this should have been done.
@michaeldouglasmason
@michaeldouglasmason 2 роки тому
@@frankgiardina4877 normally I just yell at my phone instead of commenting...
@stefanbuscaylet
@stefanbuscaylet 2 роки тому
Figures i saw this video 2 DAYS AFTER HIRING AN ELECTRICIAN TO DO EXACTLY THIS. We just wanted a can light over the kitchen sink where there was already 6 can lights in the kitchen already. I watched him and he did pretty much what you did. Great video and thank you. Little things you added were more valuable than you probably recognize like using the non-contact voltage tester as well as why you were using gloves. Just remember that many of us watching these videos have ways lower DYI skills and its probably hard to even recognize how far down the learning curve we actually hard. Again, great job on this video and thanks for taking all the extra time while you just wanted to get some lighting in your house to video record, edit, and post videos for us all.
@clobbyhardy
@clobbyhardy 3 роки тому
I installed 24 of these lights on our house when we remodeled. I love them, and they definitely have a nice wow factor. Definitely get a good quality dimmer, they have a really nice range.
@barsa901
@barsa901 3 роки тому
What dimmer did you use?
@clobbyhardy
@clobbyhardy 3 роки тому
@@barsa901 this is the exact name on Amazon from my order, but they come in 2-packs, just giving you what I got. Lutron DVWCL-153PH-2-WH Diva 150-Watt Single Pole/3-Way LED/CFL Dimmer with Wallplate (2 Pack), White
@djdnl
@djdnl 3 роки тому
Looks great! Just a tip, if you want it brighter dont think in more spots persee. Now you are spreading the light 180degrees and basically loosing a lot on the housing and diffuser. Try to use a led spot with a lens of 60 degrees by example. Or use 30 degrees and place them closer to your walls. Than you make an indirect light from your walls and you eliminate shadows. The flat leds are very popular but they have a very low cri. So while they are blinding you, you think they light up the place but they don’t.
@Niccodemure
@Niccodemure Рік тому
Agreed. Wafers are really only useful for closets. A proper can with a good reflector is much more enjoyable. That glare would drive me nuts, especially for eyeglass wearers.
@nicoletumminello9004
@nicoletumminello9004 3 роки тому
The way the lights sucked up perfectly was awesome.
@dragonlordship
@dragonlordship Рік тому
Best part of this video is that dust bowl. Watched many channels but none had that even the big channels and experienced one around 30 years :) .. excellent choice
@KimberlySmith14
@KimberlySmith14 Рік тому
the detail and effort put into this video is amazing.
@jefflebowski918
@jefflebowski918 2 роки тому
Blown insulation in the attic sucks when installing recessed lights, you have to make sure it's cleared away before you start cutting holes in the ceiling. Another tip is to buy 6" lights instead of 4", they give better coverage and the larger hole allows you to use both hands.
@DavidMoncrief
@DavidMoncrief 2 роки тому
If you need to fish a wire to the light switch you can always just remove the new work box and put in an old work box. I have now placed over 70 of these wafer lights in my home on the first floor and basement, they are a game changer.
@88KeysIdaho
@88KeysIdaho 2 роки тому
I'm really good at putting in old work boxes with "battle ships" (the thin F-shaped straps you put on the outside of the box to apply counter pressure to keep the box in place.). 70 is a LOT of lights!!
@adrianabshire
@adrianabshire 3 роки тому
I have these all over my home! We have trusses rather than 2x12 rafters so the best part is that when you want to add any type of wiring I just pop out the LED pots and can run the new wire without tearing out ceiling! Just toss the new wire from hole to hole! BTW, I have a lot of 8” wafers in my garage but used 6 inch in my kitchen and notice that the 8” will blink when the Lutron switch is turned on but the 6-inch does not... we used these in our church and the 8-inch do the same thing...
@franklinrAudi
@franklinrAudi 3 роки тому
You just gave me a project, thank you very much, the key to my issue was the fish tape, didn't know of a way on how to move the wires.
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 3 роки тому
If you have a difficult wall or ceiling texture to repair match, You could also take down the crown and make access holes that the crown would cover when reinstalled. ... or if your room doesn’t have crown, it’s a nice opportunity to add it in lieu of a possible bad patch. Also consider rope light in a dropped crown as part of the lighting scheme.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
Yeah, that's a great tip. Since my ceiling was smooth I felt like removing the crown would be a bigger pain (remove, reinstall, caulk, paint) so I would have gone below it
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 3 роки тому
@@Fixthisbuildthat ...I realize I said ‘you’ and ‘your’ but It was really a tip to your other viewers that may have an older home with other challenges.
@williamweckel8140
@williamweckel8140 2 роки тому
I've HAD to do this many times. It's much faster than repairing drywall.
@jeromegarcia5396
@jeromegarcia5396 10 місяців тому
I don't believe mudding and patching is that hard, plus you can sand it and try, try again 🤭
@MartyOfAllTrades
@MartyOfAllTrades 3 роки тому
Looks great Brad, I just completed this in my kitchen and living room and they are awesome lights.
@mikesgarage5066
@mikesgarage5066 3 роки тому
These lights are cool. Installed them in a living room a few years ago and also in the soffit over my garage doors and they give a ton of light. Looks nice and added safety also.
@marcmarcmarc681
@marcmarcmarc681 2 роки тому
Does the the wafer LED lights can become burnt out light or do it need some resinstalling the lights after a couple of years?
@mikesgarage5066
@mikesgarage5066 2 роки тому
@@marcmarcmarc681 They are LED so should last 30000+ hours depending on the light. I don't know if just the wafer portion can be replaced or if the whole thing needs replaced but it would be quite awhile before needing to be replaced.
@marcmarcmarc681
@marcmarcmarc681 2 роки тому
Thank you so much brother
@ryanw5789
@ryanw5789 4 місяці тому
Wow...Awesome job! I am about to install a junction box for the new light the room, but I think your option is much better. Thank you for posting it.
@electricalron
@electricalron 3 роки тому
Licensed electrician here with 31-years of experience... homes are still wired without ceiling lights because they're not required by the code. The only (2) rooms in a house that requires a ceiling light (or wall sconce) are the bathroom(s) and kitchen. Brad offers a GREAT EXPLANATION of the 3-wire and the switched side vs the constant side of the receptacle. The split receptacle is required by the code because receptacles are required within 6' of any opening (such as a doorway) and no more than 12' apart along the wall line. If you are unsure even a little bit, dont hesitate to hire a licensed electrician. These lights with install are anywhere from $150-$225 each LED light.
@bradenwelch1967
@bradenwelch1967 3 роки тому
He definitely could've still used that receptical if he junctioned his wires right. Electrician also💁‍♂️
@stevenmorris2293
@stevenmorris2293 3 роки тому
Could you not have just added a new switch for the recessed lights and powered it off the existing outlet switch, and just left the outlet switch as is ?
@diydaveman
@diydaveman 3 роки тому
@@stevenmorris2293 I'm thinking, yes, and this is what I would have done.
@headshq
@headshq 3 роки тому
All he did need to do is cut the 14/3 and put both ends in the first recess junction box. If the black wire is constant her splice both of the on the 14/3 send constant power to the outlet and the red wire coming from the switch becomes the switch leg for the lights. From there he daisy chain to feed the rest of the lights. So first light you gonna have 3 romex going in the junction box. Electrician here
@raymondcochran3201
@raymondcochran3201 2 роки тому
That's kinda pricey considering the actual wafer light these days is around 20 bucks
@billhandymanbill2775
@billhandymanbill2775 3 роки тому
Excellent video, especially for a non-electrician! As a helpful tip, always check the LED units to make sure they are dimmable if you plan to use a light dimmer and make sure the dimmer is compatible to use. You are lucky that the ceiling cable was NM (Non Metallic, aka Romex) and not BX, metal spiral clad electrical cable as you would not be able to accurately use you non-voltage contact tester. Keep up the great work/videos!
@bobloblaw7649
@bobloblaw7649 2 роки тому
How do i know of the dimmer is compatible?
@billhandymanbill2775
@billhandymanbill2775 2 роки тому
@@bobloblaw7649 The Dimmer will state it is either for LED lights or for incandescent lights.
@1packatak
@1packatak Рік тому
@@bobloblaw7649 the company that makes the dimmer switch will have a list of compatible bulbs. Either in the instructions or on their website.
@andrewmckinlay2964
@andrewmckinlay2964 11 місяців тому
Will the voltage tester beep if it encounters metal spiral clad cable?
@billhandymanbill2775
@billhandymanbill2775 11 місяців тому
@@andrewmckinlay2964 no, on the metal cable itself but yes at the electrical box where the individual wire conductors are exposed outside the metal spiral cable. In other words, the metal spiral cable shields the individual wires from being detected whereas the plastic jacket around the wire in “Romex” wire allows the wires to be detected by the non-voltage detector anywhere along the live cable.
@fredschultz8267
@fredschultz8267 2 роки тому
Love the lights, never seen that dust bowl so definitely grabbing one of those. I have installed roughly 20+ and used a mini sheetrock hand saw... Still leaves dust every where.....
@budrobinson1862
@budrobinson1862 3 роки тому
I sent my helper to the supply house for wire nuts and he brought back the push connectors! Sent him home for the day! Not to mention we were running 14awg and he brought back 12awg connectors
@arar983
@arar983 2 роки тому
This really helped in an unexpected way. I have a couple rooms with those pesky switched outlets and wanted to disable that functionality, since the rooms already have overhead lights. Great to know that is possible simply by replacing the outlet with the tab intact! Thanks!
@williamweckel8140
@williamweckel8140 2 роки тому
Although outlets are inexpensive, you could have just added a jumper wire. I don't know your specific situation so I can't give more details as there are several ways that the outlet circuit can be wired. I don't mean the outlet being wired, I mean the box that the outlet in question is attached to.
@AdamKirbyMusic
@AdamKirbyMusic 3 роки тому
That dust bowl was really cool, as someone who's gotten a face full of drywall dust just drilling regular holes in the ceiling I can't imagine how bad that would have been. 😬
@richdbolduc
@richdbolduc 2 роки тому
i just installed a couple dozen of these exact lights and they're great.
@dfrank2044
@dfrank2044 2 роки тому
Great advice I’m following your room measurements to install my lights. Many thanks.
@sapelesteve
@sapelesteve 3 роки тому
Great work Brad & glad that I watched this video because now I know why I always call an electrician! 👍👍😉😉
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
hahaha, no doubt, Steve!
@iankyranakis9038
@iankyranakis9038 3 роки тому
Wafer lights are a game changer! Another solid video, FTBT! Now that the lights are on the red, install a new receptacle with the tab intact on the black and you will have 2 hot outlets on the wall. Cap the red.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
Thanks! Definitely changing out that outlet soon
@johnwilliams242
@johnwilliams242 3 роки тому
Brad on the cover of Woodcraft magazine!!!!! OH SNAP!!!! congrats brother, hard work pays off....
@matthysloedolff
@matthysloedolff 3 роки тому
That drill dust collector tip is pure gold. In the past I've been using an old umbrella tipped upside down to catch the dust, but the drill still gets covered in dust. I'll be using the dust bowl in the future 👍
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
lol, I'd love to see pics of you using an umbrella
@matthysloedolff
@matthysloedolff 3 роки тому
@@Fixthisbuildthat it's not graceful, that's for sure.
@SafetyThirdProps
@SafetyThirdProps 3 роки тому
Really nice job, Brad! I'm kind of in love with these lights now and I'm going to have to get some for my home!
@axiomhi8549
@axiomhi8549 2 роки тому
Great video, and well explained. My only criticism would be that you really didn't need to run a brand new wire to the outlet formerly controlled by the switch. The bottom of the outlet is fed by a different wire - not the one from the switch, therefore, all you needed to do was cap the red wire and tuck it in the back of the box, replace the duplex outlet with a new one with an unbroken bridge, and the wire that supplied the constant electricity would have powered both top and bottom.
@patricksaludo2236
@patricksaludo2236 2 роки тому
totally agree. He messed up with cutting the wire at the attic and killed an outlet,plus leaving a wire hanging in the attic that could potentially be a fire hazard if someone puts power into it in the future. He coulve just got power for his lights from the outlet by putting new wires.
@guyzer6197
@guyzer6197 2 роки тому
So how was he going to switch the lights on and off? He needed the red wire in the 14/3 that was coming from the switch and going to the receptacle.
@castroy1
@castroy1 2 роки тому
@@guyzer6197 Why not add a box in the attic and branch off the red for hot for the new lights. Keep black as it is and get a new outlet that is bridged.
@guyzer6197
@guyzer6197 2 роки тому
@@castroy1 you could, but there is no attic access.
@aurvaroy6670
@aurvaroy6670 2 роки тому
@@guyzer6197 He can run a 14/2 from the switch box or switched outlet to the nearest light and tie the black from the new wire to the red in the box.
@ericradford8120
@ericradford8120 3 роки тому
I've been scouring the bowels of UKposts for while now, looking for this exact thing! Thanks for putting it together! I am wanting to do the same thing in my kitchen but haven't found a "proof of concept" of installing can lights without some kind of access or dotting my ceiling with holes and repairs. Hopefully I can get as lucky with joists. Wanna come up to Clarksville and help out! Haha....only partly kidding! Lol. Great job brother.
@amartinone
@amartinone 2 роки тому
Awesome! I have a room in our house I'm wanting to do this in. Great video!
@joshtypesn
@joshtypesn 3 роки тому
You can still power the outlet off of that same wire. Just tap I to the existing wire as intended but leave the black alone and splice into your ground, neutral, and red(switched) hot wire, swap the outlet as mentioned with a new outlet.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
unfortunately I had to move the wire too far to hit the hole for the light. And you can't add a junction box covered in a ceiling. If the pig tails for the lights were longer that would have worked
@gilbes1139
@gilbes1139 3 роки тому
@@Fixthisbuildthat hopefully they didn't staple the outlet wire. If it is not stapled, it could be used as a pull string to pull a new slightly longer 14/2 that you can join at the light instead of going all the way back to the switch box.
@scottsimpey2965
@scottsimpey2965 2 роки тому
Thanks for sharing this Brad. This is a something that I’ve been wanting to do for a few of the rooms in my house that just have lamps that are on switch run outlets. I have done a far amount of electrical work in the past so I’m competent enough to do that but I just haven’t been sure about how to deal with the outlets and also how to run the lines for the lights where there isn’t any existing ones there that I’m aware of. Lots of great information, thanks again Brad.
@coreyrogers583
@coreyrogers583 2 роки тому
Sounds like you’ve done hardly any electrical work
@CasperJonesRift
@CasperJonesRift 3 роки тому
Just bought my first house glad I found your Channel. Thanks
@jamesmacintyre1415
@jamesmacintyre1415 3 роки тому
Well done Brad. I was going to suggest watching Jeff install them on last week's live but out of respect for your channel. Didn't feel was right place to suggest it. Between you and him I've learned alot over the last year. And will be replacing my can lights with these. As part of my basement restore after flood last summer
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
Jeff is awesome, such a wealth of knowledge. I'm just cobbling it together as I go with help from guys like him :)
@matteason989
@matteason989 3 роки тому
Those lights are life savers for remodeling. I had the same experience with that hole saw. It jumped on me big time. I'll try going in reverse next time I need it.
@trebbleshooter
@trebbleshooter Рік тому
Just curious how you fished the wire to the next lights.
@caveman775
@caveman775 2 місяці тому
Insane video! Loved the mock up. You went above and beyond to explain that situation
@BearcatJohn82
@BearcatJohn82 Рік тому
Just bought a house, and really wanna update the lighting inside. This will prove useful.
@andypaulusma3523
@andypaulusma3523 3 роки тому
I just put 16 of these throughout my basement, they are great! I bought ones that have 5 different white temperatures (set with a switch on each box) since I plan on painting after and haven't picked the colour yet. Another tip, mine needed a 4 1/8" hole saw but I only had a 4" one. I used the 4" one, then shaved the hole a little bigger all around using a drywall saw, rather than spending $30 on a hole saw I probably wouldn't use again.
@randomdude3066
@randomdude3066 3 роки тому
I highly recommend investing in a $20 endoscope that is a quarter inch size. Then you can drill 1/4-in holes and insert the endoscope which can connect to your smartphone.
@randomdude3066
@randomdude3066 3 роки тому
You can get one that's waterproof too and so you can use it pretty much anywhere.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
Dang, that sounds awesome! I'll have to check it out. Didn't know they made ones that cheap
@randomdude3066
@randomdude3066 3 роки тому
The ip67 water proof ones are a little more. The one I have was 35.
@JustinRoffMarsh
@JustinRoffMarsh 3 роки тому
I have one that sends the signal via WiFi to an app on my phone. I think it was about $40. Works well.
@spartanscytale4976
@spartanscytale4976 2 роки тому
I was really excited because this video described exactly the scenario I was facing with one very dark room in my home, but I have solid lumber floor joists rather than the open floor trusses seen in the video, so now I'm sad. Great video nonetheless.
@sukinator9699
@sukinator9699 2 роки тому
Thank you for the dust bowl link. That is an indispensable tool
@mikefalgoust8876
@mikefalgoust8876 Рік тому
In your scenario losing constant power to your outlet was completely avoidable without running any wires down the walls. You simply needed to run a 14/3 wire between the two recessed lights parallel to the existing wire. Rather than 14/2. And connect both sides of the existing wire rather than one side. Doing so allows constant power to continue through on the black wire. If your wafer Jbox is to small you may have to add a second Jbox on one side easily accessible through the same hole.
@jerryelsea8126
@jerryelsea8126 11 місяців тому
Or just set a box, splice to the light with the red, and to the outlet with the black…
@613HalfwitGarage
@613HalfwitGarage 2 роки тому
If you wanted to keep constant power on the other half of that plug, joint that 3 wire in the box and run the switch leg to your pot lights and tie the blacks together so they run through to the plug, then replace your plug with one that isn’t split. Then you have your plug with constant power and your switched pot lights. This will only work however if you have enough slack
@zamboniman87
@zamboniman87 Рік тому
Exactly. I don't understand why the load side was discontinued. He could have just tapped in for the new lights and left the black to continue.
@youdandee1
@youdandee1 Рік тому
I have been wondering how these lights work out . Thank you for posting this
@beatdownjar
@beatdownjar 3 роки тому
Super helpful video! Lookin forward to doing this to our house now.
@connecticutaggie
@connecticutaggie 2 роки тому
For wiring the light, another (gutsy) thing you could have tried is to disconnect the wire at the light then attach a pull cord to it and reach up in the ceiling for the wire an pull. Once you had the cord and the wire, you could attach your LED wiring to it and them use the cord hanging our of the switch plate to pull everything back. Now you have can put the original wiring back and you now have your LED power wire too.
@debbiemichaud3969
@debbiemichaud3969 2 роки тому
Romex is stapled. There is no chasing wires in residential.
@jonathandevries2828
@jonathandevries2828 3 роки тому
Cool i like how you can barely see them when they are off!
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat 3 роки тому
great looking product
@vincentdufort777
@vincentdufort777 2 роки тому
being at a construction job for sometime, we have this sop to put wire looms to housed the wires going to each terminals (sockets / switch / junction box etc) that way, when we are to add another set to wire (lighting / additional socket etc) we can just feed the wire on the loom and it will definitely land to were we want it to be....
@roneckler9937
@roneckler9937 Рік тому
Here is some helpful advice. If the switch that controlled your outlet was on the opposite wall, and you had two lights cut into the ceiling between the switch and outlet, you could have run a piece of 14-3 between those two lights to connect your outlet again. the black would have stayed constant hot, and the red could be used as the switch-leg for the lights. this way you can have the outlet working again without cutting more holes in the drywall to run a new wire. Fiberglass fish sticks work a lot better at fishing through this type of ceiling too. Great job on the explanation though.
@RandyLott
@RandyLott Рік тому
There is a scientific approach to follow for layout, but I'm an engineer and not a lighting designer. This prevents shadows between light beams, which looks terrible and feels like a tunnel. What you need to know is: 1. Beam angle (the beam creates a Conical Frustum shape for each light) - narrower beam angle means more lights needed 2. Ceiling height - lower ceiling means beams intersect closer to the ground - more lights needed Lay out the lights so that the beams intersect above the average person's height. 6' is a good place to be. Trigonometry is required. Also, make sure the beam intersection is 6' or above around the edge of the room, as well.
@paulgill7222
@paulgill7222 Рік тому
These are not same as older pot light where the beam angles would be of concern. These flat led lights basically disperse light in a very wide angle and fill the room much more evenly
@RandyLott
@RandyLott Рік тому
@@paulgill7222 Good to know, thanks!
@Lando1020
@Lando1020 Рік тому
Set drill to driver mode and use the torque settings so it doesn't stick and cause the entire drill to spin and potentially hurt you. Works great for drywall since it is very easy to cut.
@dimbaboy
@dimbaboy Рік тому
Great job on the step by step! Pro-tip- I would have installed a J-box or two to extend the three wire, on the wire in the ceiling you tapped for lighting switch leg. Adding one two wire whip for the lights and a second two wire whip as your feed for your future ceiling fan. I would have installed the power while the light holes were cut in for access. The J-box also would have provided the power for your outlet that still has to be re-fed... With so little time left for add ons, we try to land the plane, one time and then off to the next job. Thanks for the great work ethic!
@spydermcfly
@spydermcfly Рік тому
where would you have put the j-box? we are not allowed to hide them behind ceiling/wall. cheers
@dimbaboy
@dimbaboy Рік тому
@@spydermcfly by using those recessed lights you have access and in New York, are allowed to put a jbox
@noela_ca8724
@noela_ca8724 2 роки тому
Hi, Thanks for this video. You really did a good job. I learned a lot and you explained it in a way that is easy to understand. Did you daisy chained all the LED lights? is there a connector for daisy chained wire or you just twist and tapped?
@emf9
@emf9 3 роки тому
Fyi you could run a piece of 14/3 between two off the led junction boxes and splice that in so that you could leave your outlet connected.
@ahmedagbabiaka
@ahmedagbabiaka 3 роки тому
Just did this job on 2 rooms in my house. Family loves it. Up next, kitchen and the family room.
@gnarfle
@gnarfle 2 роки тому
Planning to do this soon and I'm jealous of your situation! I've got 18" of loose insulation above in my attic which I think is going to make it impossible to do this from below. I'm going to have to get up above and move insulation out of the way so it doesn't all end up in the house and I don't think I can fish wires from below through all the insulation so I might have to guide them from above. Not looking forward to it! I at least have good access but it's so hot up there and not many places to step and little headroom towards the edge of the house.
@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736
@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736 2 роки тому
Fluke is also a dependable hot stick. As an electrician, I really recommend not getting the hot sticks or tics that have lights on the end! I went through a couple of those, and they get to where they are not dependable very quickly. just a FYI. and those dust bowl are great. I bought one that comes with an adjustable blade; two arms that adjust by an allen wrench and the arm has measurements on it so you know what size you are extending to; not sure if I got it at Locke supply or where I got it now lol but it's pretty handy but not sure I would use it on anything but sheetrock, but it is great for cutting holes in sheetrock and you can do any hole with one hole saw instead of spending a lot of money on multiple hole saws. I think it grabs less too! It has blades on it and not teeth.
@nightbladexxx
@nightbladexxx 3 роки тому
My tips would be 1. Wear a tool belt so you always put your tools back into the belt and not the ceiling, lol 2. Connect all the lights and test them before you mount them, as some can be a pain to unmount. I'm usually installing speakers so I have to adjust the 70/100v tapa 3. Glo-rods or fish rods work easier than a fish tape as they like to stay straight and a small 20' fiberglass fish tape is easier than steel. My dream of training a rat to pull wires has come through yet so I'm stuck with rods and tape. Thanks for the dust bowl. Which make did you get? I need one. I tried one a few years ago and it wasn't worth it.
@mjbjr1944
@mjbjr1944 3 роки тому
Click on "Show More" just below the video and you'll see a link to it.
@chrisboyd4433
@chrisboyd4433 2 роки тому
You could have added an extra ceiling box and used it as a junction box to tap into that 14-3 line. This would allow you to keep using the constant power black at the outlet and divert the red power to your lights. Afterward, just cover the new ceiling box with a blank plate and paint to match the ceiling. Alternatively, you could use the junction box of the light to accomplish the same thing if there is enough slack in the original line. Bring the original line into the first box. Use a 14-3 to get the red across the room to another of your lights. Then use the junction box of that second light to tie back into the original line that feeds the receptacle biox.
@radozeman
@radozeman 2 роки тому
That's exactly what I was thinking as well! Either junction box it or add another wire!
@hardikrana6403
@hardikrana6403 2 роки тому
So you are saying he could have splice 14-3 into 14-2 and connect those recessed lights to 14-2? That way his outlets are there and also got power for his recessed light?
@chrisboyd4433
@chrisboyd4433 2 роки тому
@@hardikrana6403 Exactly. In the original existing 14-3 Romex, red wire (lighting) power comes from the switch and black wire (outlet) power is constant. Here is what I would have done: 1. Add an old work box in the ceiling. I would place it out of the way in the corner, closer to the existing wire. 2. Cut the existing wire so that one end (the wire coming up from the switch) can be pulled over to the light location as shown on the video and the other end (the wire continuing down to the outlets) can be pulled over to the new junction box. 3. Run a new section of 14-3 Romex between the light location and the junction box. 4. Run a new section of 14-2 Romex between the first light location and the next light location. 5. In the junction box, connect black to black, red to red, neutral to neutral, and ground to ground. This will keep the existing power to the outlet so you can keep using it as a switched outlet or you can cap off the red wire in the outlet box and use a new outlet as shown in the video. You can place a blank plate over this junction box and paint it to match the ceiling. 6. In the light location, make the following connections inside the light's junction box. a. All ground wires connected together. Input wire from switch, output wire to junction box, wire to first light fixture, and 14-2 wire out to the next light fixture. b. All neutral wires connected together. Input wire from switch, output wire to junction box, wire to first light fixture, and 14-2 wire out to the next light fixture. c. Two red lighting power wires (input wire from switch & output wire to junction box) are connected to two black wires (one to the first light fixture and one to the 14-2 wire out to the next light fixture). Note that the black wires of the ceiling lights now carry the switched lighting power around to the light fixtures. d. Two black outlet power wires (input wire from switch, output wire to junction box) are connected together. DO NOT connect these wires to the lighting fixture or the wires leading out to the next fixture. These wires carry the outlet power back down to the original outlet so that it continues to function in the same way. In the video, it appears that he left the wire leading down to the outlet abandoned in the ceiling and removed the outlet entirely. His installation could be retrofitted by my method to restore power to that outlet, with or without the switched function.
@hardikrana6403
@hardikrana6403 2 роки тому
@@chrisboyd4433 wow, thank you so much for taking time to explain this. Not related to this..We recently purchased a house. In most of the area builder provided pre wiring for ceiling fan. Today i was trying to install the ceiling fan and noticed that both red and black wires have constant power. They provided 2 switches, even if i turn the switch off those 2 wires still shows reading in power tester. Do you think its normal? Or they messed up there. I installed the fan and i can only control the fan/light by using the remote. Switch doesn’t do anything. Your input would be greatly appreciated.
@scottshaw4880
@scottshaw4880 Рік тому
Common practice with switched outlets is what you are finding at your switch box. The black wire loops around the screw and the Red wire is switched. Then the 3 conductor cable goes out to the outlet where generally half of the duplex plug is tied to constant power and half is switched.
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