Results from using magnets on my oil filter. Check it out

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I installed a magnetic oil plug to see the results and looks like it picked up some metals into it. Its a bit controversial topic but at least I feel good about it. Some of the links below help out the channel.
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@elrobo3568
@elrobo3568 5 днів тому
On jet engines we use chip detectors, it is two magnets a specific distance apart and when the metallic particles cause the two magnets to connect a make an electrical connection the chip detector warning light goes on in the cockpit.
@Stefan_Dahn
@Stefan_Dahn 5 днів тому
Helicopter gearboxes use those, too. I'm going to try this on my wind turbines gearboxes. Simple & clever these chip detectors! 👍
@NickGiordano-zu4em
@NickGiordano-zu4em 4 дні тому
so it god enough for the military than its good enough for me
@NickGiordano-zu4em
@NickGiordano-zu4em 4 дні тому
i dont need the light just the magnets
@chrissanders2562
@chrissanders2562 4 дні тому
That's so cool! Genius! Never too much redundancy in an aircraft.
@user-nx6qr1mt6f
@user-nx6qr1mt6f 3 дні тому
We had several chip detectors on our Huey helicopters in the Marines, but only on gearboxes. They weren’t to collect ferrous metals as this filter magnet does, they are used to warn you that one of the gear boxes (main transmission, tail rotor, intermediate, accessory and combining gear boxes) was about to grenade. Protocol was to pull it out, examine chips, clean and see if it popped the light again.
@dougjones8443
@dougjones8443 4 дні тому
have been doing the same thing with magnets for 5 years this guy shows the results well done sir
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 4 дні тому
Thank you
@kj9219
@kj9219 День тому
Makes me think of the '37 olds I restored. Flathead 6, oil bath air filter, NO oil filter. I was talking to an old guy about it and he said," Now that the roads are paved the oil should stay a lot cleaner.."
@stevenroche9874
@stevenroche9874 2 дні тому
I believe in the old school 3000 mile oil change. No matter how much better new oils are, they still get dirty and additives deplete. The oil filter is certainly ready to be replaced at 3000 miles.
@RAWRMotorsports
@RAWRMotorsports День тому
💯
@Javii96
@Javii96 День тому
My truck has a cool feature, it doesn’t need oil changes. cause i just keep adding oil as it burns it up. It always stays clean. Just kidding but there’s a little truth to that
@Davido50
@Davido50 День тому
5k mi oil changes w/ full synthetic & synthetic media oil filter is VERY CONSERVATIVE .
@dietznutz1
@dietznutz1 День тому
5k full synthetic, can't go wrong no matter what
@hickboyjusthick698
@hickboyjusthick698 День тому
@@Javii96 my 97 Land Cruiser fully agrees with your statement
@jackcurrence263
@jackcurrence263 4 дні тому
I have been running FilterMags on my car for the last 70k miles, and have an oil change interval of 5k (plus or minus maybe 250 miles). Each oil change, I cut the filter open and look for material caught by the magnets, and have noticed that over time, there is less and less that the magnets pick up/hold on to. There are a variety of possible explanations for this, but the one I am choosing to believe is that as ferritic particles are removed from the oil, they have less opportunity to do further damage/cause further wear... which means that over time, the engine wear rate decreases. In other words, having ferritic particles circulating in the oil creates additional ferritic particles which turn create more ferr.... you get the idea.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 3 дні тому
I am glad you are getting results from using the Filtermags. Your observation is very interesting and informative. On my next oil change I want to send out the oil for analysis to see what is passing through the filter. I noticed from the first video I did with just the magnetic oil drain plug there were a lot more particles on the drain plug. Now it seems there is a lot less since I added the magnets to the filter. I know the filter is suppose to catch most of it but I feel the extra protection is an easy decision for me. Thank you
@dragan3290
@dragan3290 6 днів тому
I used to do this on my Toyota hilux 2003 model! Engine was always spotless. But i used to change the oil every 5000 km. Cheers from Australia ❤
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 6 днів тому
Thank you
@scrappy7571
@scrappy7571 9 днів тому
I've been using magnets on the filter for decades. I get the magnets out of old starters, they are curved and fit the shape of the filter. Don't cost nuthin. I also cut open every filter and there is always a slight amount of particles stuck to the filter can. Less crap floating in the oil the better.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 8 днів тому
That is a great idea. It was mentioned today about using ferrite magnets instead of neodymium. their tolerance of heat is much higher than neodymium magnets. Thanks
@scrappy7571
@scrappy7571 8 днів тому
@@ExtremDIY Also old blower motors have curved magnets. Can't beat the price...FREE
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 8 днів тому
@@scrappy7571 Thanks
@issanesheiwat1396
@issanesheiwat1396 3 дні тому
​@@ExtremDIYthey make high heat neodymium magnets capable of above 200c. Just gotta select the right grade
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 3 дні тому
@@issanesheiwat1396 Good to know, the ones used on the Filtermag kits have a higher heat tolerance. thanks
@toolmania2055
@toolmania2055 10 днів тому
Very detailed I have been thinking of adding magnets to my filters and now I will thank you.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 10 днів тому
Thank you
@silviamery6581
@silviamery6581 10 днів тому
Awesome thank you. I see more and more of this magnets on filters.
@AnthonyJ350
@AnthonyJ350 5 днів тому
Great video! I highly recommend magnets on the filter and drain plug as well. Save money by keeping your vehicle for longer.
@karztoolz3789
@karztoolz3789 10 днів тому
Nailed it. thanks for the breakdown
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 6 днів тому
Yup been using filter mag since new in my 2007 Ford Focus, opened up and replaced the valve cover this year with an aluminum replacement. It was absolutely pristine. I would also suggest you check out this guy on oil. Channel name " The Motor Oil Geek " the title of the video would be " what makes this oil so special " , normally I have used Royal Purple but have switched. I do still use their filters. Adding extra magnets to the transmission is also beneficial as they do have at least one. I did also add a transmission drain plug at the start B/M sells one that works great and yes I change out a tray-full then wait a week and do a second at every oil change. Happy transmission. 😀
@rickcoleman8903
@rickcoleman8903 10 днів тому
There's non belivers calling magnets snake oil I've used magnets for decades they are an absolute good thing.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 10 днів тому
I see the results and think they are great. Thank you
@donwyoming1936
@donwyoming1936 9 днів тому
I've never used magnets and have never had engine issues. And I usually have 4 cars in the driveway that are older with high mileage. I'm not saying magnets aren't beneficial. Just saying anecdotal evidence really isn't a scientific way of determining if something works.
@LA_Commander
@LA_Commander 7 днів тому
​@@IDGAF56852why were you so rude to Don? This man has several vehicles with very high mileage so obviously he knows how to properly care for them. And no, this video isn't "proof" of any benefit. The oil in the can was pre filtered oil. So the magnet just caught particles which would have ended up in the filter element anyway. If you can see the particles, then they are over 50 microns. Most filters will catch particles down to 20 or 30 microns. And lastly, the magnets will not attract the aluminum and copper found in most modern engines. In older engines with iron blocks and iron heads, yes magnets could make sense. But in modern engines they just don't work as well. Hope that brings some context to the video.
@davidbuck9977
@davidbuck9977 День тому
You use magnets, and then there is the 99.999999999999999999999999999999% of people who have never used magnets and just followed proper oil change intervals and never had a problem. Sometimes people create solutions to problems that don't exist.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY День тому
@@davidbuck9977 Why would they use it on the tranny? There is a lot of engine ware that if your car doesnt break shops wouldnt make any money. One of the comments motioned oil changes at 3k and had some ridiculous amount of miles on his car. I would never do those crazy long oil changes like 10k or 15k even if the manufacture would say is ok. There is always wear in the motor and by spending a few buck will help 1% I will use it.
@timkis64
@timkis64 9 днів тому
tried it many wears ago.after opening filter & seeing the ultra fine magnetic powder on the inside held by the magnets.i've used them ever since.whether particles that small matters or not, i cant prove either way.but it DOES work to keep them IN the filter & out of the oil.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 8 днів тому
Absolutely
@fuffoon
@fuffoon 2 дні тому
That is a beautifully machined and anodized can opener. I mean really gorgeous. ❤
@garyjarvis2730
@garyjarvis2730 5 годин тому
Given that most modern engines are aluminum blocks with aluminum heads and pistons the concept of using magnets can't hurt but will not pick up aluminum in the oil. The bearings are not pure iron or steel and timing gears and belts are also non metallic. I think you get the point. Transmissions, transfer cases, and drive axles have ferrous based gears and bearings along with magnetic drain plugs. If the ferrous components in the engine are throwing that much metal and / or the filter media is not trapping it something else is terribly wrong.
@gregavitia33
@gregavitia33 4 дні тому
Lots of good stuff in this video thank you.
@richrocketlll
@richrocketlll 2 дні тому
I have been using magnets on my filters for forty+ years on both cars and motorcycles. On some I drilled the plug and glued the magnet into the tip of the plug. Also I have put some on the outside of the filter housing. They work good on ferrous metals but don't work on aluminum and copper. I have a Triumph Rocket 111 motorcycle where the engine and transmission share the same oil so its got a magnet on the filter. My Toyota Corolla has 390,000 miles on it with a magnet on filter. Great video will help new car owners keep their cars longer.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 2 дні тому
Wow this is excellent to hear. Thank you for sharing your experience with the community. Still 390,000 miles wow.
@TorqueAndTwisted
@TorqueAndTwisted 5 днів тому
Nice video! Loved seeing the metal under the scope and really impressive to see the magnets can catch and move the metal like you show at the end.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 5 днів тому
thank you so much
@ChrisLincolnHomes
@ChrisLincolnHomes 10 днів тому
I've been using a FilterMag on my cars for 25+ years now. My 99 Trans Am and 01 Z28 both with LS engines had one. My Cavalier/Buick I couldn't use one because of the internal filter. But my 2010 Chevy, I've used it since new. I've never opened the filter but logic would dictate that metal would stick to the filter housing where the magnet was attached. I'll use one forever now especially with a canister filter.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 10 днів тому
Funny I used to do this years ago without any research just plain magnetics but now all my cars have magnets. Still have to figure out my sons BMW with the plastic upside cover. They are very powerful seems to me that if you can have extra protection why not use it. thank you
@sandasturner9529
@sandasturner9529 8 днів тому
Ferrous metals would stick but pure aluminum or copper won't stick
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 8 днів тому
@@sandasturner9529 Oh yes always buy the best filter you can get for the rest. thanks
@ryanbautista6435
@ryanbautista6435 6 днів тому
I leaned some thing new today wow !! I have bunch of speaker round magnets laying around and they are very strong can I just clamp them under the oil pan to cleverly collect iron particles
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 6 днів тому
@@ryanbautista6435 I thought of that but how are you going to clean it. I rather use a powerful magnetic drain bolt. The idea is great if you can remove the oil pan to clean it out every other oil change. thanks
@ratgreen
@ratgreen 5 днів тому
This has convinced me to put some on my filter now. What would be cool is to somehow have a magnet inside the filter media (ie post filter paper) to see if it catches any metal then. That way if there are any smaller than X micron metal parts going through the filter paper it would prove its catching metal bits that would otherwise pass through the filter paper and get pumped through the engine.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 5 днів тому
On next test I will send the oil for testing and will also add another magnet to the bottom of the filter. These magnets are strong but apparently the heat makes them loose their strength. Before this video I did with only drain plug but seem like the filter magnets collect a lot more. thanks for the feedback
@garycarbonneau499
@garycarbonneau499 5 днів тому
I do some heavy towing with my trucks. I also put a large magnet on the rear cover of my axle center covers next to the drain plugs that are magnetic also. " Too much is never enough" Keith Richards
@richardjohnson8009
@richardjohnson8009 8 днів тому
need like a magnetic coozy you can put over top of it, made of those fridge magnets or something, or even better yet a flexible fridge magnet manufactured inside of the filter around the paper. thats cool.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 3 дні тому
You want the filter to dissipate heat from the oil. Use zip ties.
@otarsulava
@otarsulava 4 дні тому
I use these magnets on my Kawasaki Ninja motorcycle since I got it new - 2015. It's 2024 now, still own that bike has 41.000 miles on ODO. It runs great, I do change oil every about 2500 miles, with those magnets on the filter, I myself cannot confirm or proof if it did catch the metal particles, but all I need is a healthy good engine... ✌️
@ddrowdy2
@ddrowdy2 3 дні тому
Magnets on the oil filter is a great idea. My Kubota tractor has them, the filter has a recessed area at the mounting flange. I had never seen the ones you can add to a regular filter, gonna order some, thanks. Magnetic drain plugs are always a good idea too.
@fatherguidosarduchi5204
@fatherguidosarduchi5204 5 днів тому
I have been doing the same thing on my vehicles for years and years. It does catch a lot of debris you would never see. This method is pretty good.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 5 днів тому
That is great to know thanks for your feedback
@ICECarOwnerDIY
@ICECarOwnerDIY 5 днів тому
Depending on where the magnet is located, how strong it is, and the design of the oil filter, the magnets could prevent the bypass valve from opening. I had this happen years ago and is the reason I stopped using a magnet on the oil filter.
@umtomcat
@umtomcat 5 днів тому
Good point. I didn't think about that.
@justinlee2642
@justinlee2642 5 днів тому
Yes those bypass valves are pretty sensitive to psi so I wouldn't want to risk changing how that works in my oil filter. Most people don't realize how important the bypass valve is and the psi settings vary from manufacturer
@chrisblake8845
@chrisblake8845 2 дні тому
Good observation... one possible work-around would be an additional (smaller) micron bypass oil filter kit.
@Chrisinpa
@Chrisinpa 4 дні тому
I'm an aircraft mechanic and have been using magnetic drain plugs in my cars for years. Basically all I usually end up with is metallic silt. I would rather have it on the drain plug than circulating through the engine.. It's a good way to monitor wear for a specific number of miles also..
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 4 дні тому
I feel the same way. I wish I would had done it a long time ago. Great way to monitor the motor. Thank you
@ivorscruton5121
@ivorscruton5121 6 днів тому
Kubota tractor hydraulic filters come with a doughnut magnet on top where the oil enters the can. The universal hydraulic oil is shared with the transmission. There are usually very fine black metallic partiicals attached when changing, at the 400 hour recommendation.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 6 днів тому
That is good to know that magnets are used by other industries. Thank you for the feedback
@Lambert_Life
@Lambert_Life День тому
This is a good interesting video. Well made. My only suggestion would be if done in the future, flip the filter over when cutting it open. Those cutters create very fine particles of metal when cutting thru the material. Some of your shiny specs were likely there due to cutting it open & they fell down to the magnets.
@detroitjohn4724
@detroitjohn4724 5 днів тому
Thanks for presentation !
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 5 днів тому
Welcome
@adambatchelder4121
@adambatchelder4121 2 дні тому
Along with 3k oil changes I have used filter magnet s and magnet drain plugs .on pretty much every 4 stroke I own and always capture some metal.
@acanfield87
@acanfield87 23 години тому
Pretty slick. The small amount of particulate captured on the side of the oil filter would not have posed an issue to the filter media. Nevertheless this is a free method to capture metal particles and provides a positive feedback.
@thatrealba
@thatrealba День тому
I've never used magnets. For my high performance engine, I just send a sample from every other oil change for analysis. With Amsoil filters and oil, and 5k miles between changes, this works for me. My truck? Uses oil waaaay too fast to worry about anything other than decent oul and filters, lol. The womans Jeep is on lease so I follow spec on that one.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY День тому
Keep us posted on the results of the oil. I was using Amsoil but for some reason my suv was burning it more than the other oils that I have used in the past. I know their oil filter does up to 20 microns but a bit restrictive on the flow. Oh pricy too. Did some research and started using Valvoline Extended or high millage with a great additive package and notice my engine is super smooth and quiet. Purolator One with 20 micron filtration so far so good
@davidcontreras2422
@davidcontreras2422 4 дні тому
Magnets do really work, Nice
@nicholaspetre1
@nicholaspetre1 10 днів тому
Very good video, thank you so much!
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 10 днів тому
Hello very welcome
@scottymoondogjakubin4766
@scottymoondogjakubin4766 9 днів тому
Also keep in mind most vehicles also have cam and crank sensors that are also magnetic ! They need to be cleaned every so often to !
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 9 днів тому
@351cleavland
@351cleavland 7 днів тому
Yes!! I was taking off my harmonic balancer and saw a nice little mound of metallic/ rusty crud built up. Don't know how much it helped but absolutely didn't hurt.
@jondrew55
@jondrew55 4 дні тому
I change my oil every 5k. Unless it looks like a Cappuccino, I don't worry about it. No blown engines and I've gotten 150K on some of my cars before I got rid of them. But as long as you don't claim magnets increase your MPG, this is fine.
@RJL1983
@RJL1983 8 днів тому
Used Gold Plug magnetic oil drain bolts in both my vehicles. They collect a little bit of "fuzz" does it help?? Ehh who knows. Deff can gauge internal wear.
@VorpalForceField
@VorpalForceField 7 днів тому
Very Cool .. Thank You for sharing .. Cheers :)
@user-vg6qv5jv3w
@user-vg6qv5jv3w 18 годин тому
I think magnet drain plugs are fun. If nothing else they help you not drop it in the oil catch. Like he did in the video it stuck to the car instead of dropping
@cmte.brazinazzo2061
@cmte.brazinazzo2061 2 дні тому
Since carbon is a Paramagnetic substance, most Black goo in the magnets are just carbonaceus material.
@UQRXD
@UQRXD 6 днів тому
Some of that stuff is from the process of making the filter itself. Even food products have metal in them from manufacturing. Machines do wear metal parts.
@toycoma98
@toycoma98 2 дні тому
I use the magnets from my husky socket organizer, those are pretty strong. I dont need the magnets on the organizer anyways because i just put them in the drawers.
@hphillips7425
@hphillips7425 3 дні тому
Interesting. Thanks
@andrewchristiansen8311
@andrewchristiansen8311 17 годин тому
Those 10mmx100mm magnets I bought on amazon 4 years ago. I use two on the side as I dont want to prevent the bypass from opening.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 17 годин тому
You never know better be safe than sorry. So much going on inside the motors.
@alcerz984
@alcerz984 22 години тому
Sad thing is when someone changes their oil regularly it’s usually not that that kills it it’s usually an overheat or a bad radiator or a hose
@oqhr
@oqhr 4 дні тому
May i know how many miles on your car, and also how many miles you drove for this specific oil change? Thanks
@southfloridamtb8425
@southfloridamtb8425 10 днів тому
Thanks
@georgecarousos6735
@georgecarousos6735 7 днів тому
I do wonder besides ferrous metals being attracted to the magnets if any of the additive packages get pulled out of suspension? In and of themselves a lot of additives are not magnetic (Zinc, calcium, moly, phosphorous, etc) but after being mixed and circulated through the oil with different chemicals, heat cycles and dissimilar metals in the engine they may become more magnetic. It think it would be very interesting to take samples of the "sludge" off the magnetic area and send it into an oil testing lab to see what is actually being captured besides ferrous metals.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 7 днів тому
Very interesting thought on this. I am looking for a company to test the oil to see what is going on with using this method. Going to put some miles on this oil. Thanks
@georgecarousos6735
@georgecarousos6735 7 днів тому
@@ExtremDIY That would be a very cool test. I just saw a YT video by "the motor oil geek" and he got me thinking because he is testing zinc and it actually polarizes itself to the ferrous metals. Very interesting video....he also has a oil testing lab (it's Lake Speed's son, the ex-NASCAR driver).
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 7 днів тому
@@georgecarousos6735 Oh yes I follow him he has great content. thank you
@sahilnaik7456
@sahilnaik7456 7 годин тому
In goa ,India we taxi drivers put a magnet piece in oil chamber as soon as we purchase new car,this continues from my grandpa days
@karllervaerket
@karllervaerket 4 дні тому
I'd love to try, but I might struggle with an aluminium engine, pan and plastic filter housing with only paper filters available.
@user-ti2eq8rj1w
@user-ti2eq8rj1w 7 годин тому
Since the magnets are picking up pre filtered oil in that configuration there would be no way to prove that the filter wouldn’t catch that media anyway. A test with a control fluid and one filter with, one without would be a great test to verify there are actually benefits to this, aside from catching metal the filter may catch anyway. Great video. Cheers
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 7 годин тому
Next text we will be sending out the oil before and after to see if its working. My thing is the bypass valve opens and lets out these metals back into the engine. Nothing beats regular maintenance on your engine and I have shifted from changing oil at 5k to 3500 miles. Lets see what the next oil change comes back as. Thanks for the feedback
@user-ti2eq8rj1w
@user-ti2eq8rj1w 6 годин тому
@@ExtremDIY excellent point about the bypass. Looking forward to seeing the new video.
@victoriapeshlakai9613
@victoriapeshlakai9613 18 годин тому
Yeah all engines will break down eventually. Just keep changing your filters and oil and keep your cooling system working good. Heat is the killer.
@MegaRiffraff
@MegaRiffraff 6 днів тому
I use the big round magnet from microwaves on the bottom of the filters of my bulk fuel tanks ,
@lhurst9550
@lhurst9550 6 днів тому
I've never used magnets, never thought about it I guess. In life very few things are all pro and no con, this is one of those things. Bought some mags off of amazon to put on my spin-on filters, the newer Fords that I drive use the cartridge type of filter, guess we have a con for the plastic housing cartridge type filter now don't we.
@brianbeck3628
@brianbeck3628 5 днів тому
Great video! I have been using magnets for years as an extra precaution. I have opened a few oil filters and found holes in the media that allows unfiltered oil to circulate continuously. Purolator oil filters are garbage and I will never using them or recommend them.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 5 днів тому
That is great to know about the Purolator filters. What are you using. Thanks
@motorola1ish
@motorola1ish 3 дні тому
By putting the magnets on the outside of the filter, you're trapping contaminates BEFORE they get a chance to enter the filter element. So the only benefit you're getting is catching the ferrous particles that are too small to be trapped by the filter, and you have no idea how small those particles are. I like the magnetic drain plug concept, but again, you have no evidence that the filter is not going to trap most of the junk. The next question is, how long do you plan to keep your car? If the answer is less than "forever", you're probably wasting your time and money. I don't know any fleet car managers that would go to such an extreme to protect their engines. But, your concern is admirable, and you would be the first one on my list to buy a used car from.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 9 днів тому
My magnetic tipped drain plug always grows an afro. Over time, the quantity has decreased and I suspect it's material coming from the timing chain set as it wears.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 8 днів тому
That is funny...
@dequavisjones4869
@dequavisjones4869 4 дні тому
My 6.0 Chevy always has roughly 1/4 inch on it, typical gm junk! Think how much no ferris stuff the filter has to catch
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 4 дні тому
@@dequavisjones4869 wow thats a lot of metal
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 4 дні тому
@@dequavisjones4869 My point here is that magnets work to prove ferris particles exist and we can expect some amount will be present. Not sure exactly what you're witnessing but there could be numerous reasons. Extended oil change intervals and/or the incorrect type of oil (most likely of sins these days) should both be avoided like the plague, if at all possible. Background: This particular engine was completely rebuilt at least 20 years ago and I've been modifying it through the years, I consider it a test bed. The original timing chain sprocket would've been a nylon coated aluminum piece with an expected life of about 100k miles. This latest replacement aftermarket sprocket (a matched timing set) is cast iron and I've advanced the camshaft by 3 degrees.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 4 дні тому
@@ExtremDIY Sounds like more metal than you're experiencing and I'd say you're experiencing less than I am, but I'm not totally convinced a 1/4 inch afro is beyond imagination, we need more detail. In your case, I suspect you take very good care of your engine and maybe drive long distances at higher speeds (operating conditions effect rate of wear).
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym 4 дні тому
Problem is bearing is not steel to grab with magnet. Parts in engine block is not steel (piston cylinders aluminum)
@utookmynames
@utookmynames 2 дні тому
I’m not sure how beneficial it is, this isn’t going to be the difference between your car lasting an extra 50k miles or anything but I guess it could make your filter stay in better shape longer. But if you’re changing the oil regularly and on time I don’t think spending money on a specific magnet is worth it imo.
@janmessek1826
@janmessek1826 2 дні тому
More importantly the particles can be small enough to get through the filter element and they wear the rubber seals causing leaks in valve stems and crank seals so yeah magnets are a good thing.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 2 дні тому
Thank you
@K03sport
@K03sport 6 днів тому
I've replaced my filter with just hardrive magnets. does that count?
@ginog5037
@ginog5037 6 днів тому
Most particles are non-ferrous metals, so adding a magnet is mute. When the filter is on bypass do you really want to take a chance having 1 particle breaking free. If you're catching large metal chunks you have bigger problems!
@LuminousBlueVariable
@LuminousBlueVariable 6 днів тому
When did he say he was trying to catch non-ferrous material with a magnet? I didn't hear him speak of trying to catch large chunks of metal either so, what is your point?
@jackcurrence263
@jackcurrence263 4 дні тому
First, you're correct... in modern engines, there is less ferrous metal than ever before. HOWEVER, most of the other metals used (various alloys of aluminum, lead, copper) as well as plastics are almost universally softer than ferrous metals, and are less likely to do as much damage. Additionally, even if only 25% of the metallic particles floating around in the oil are ferrous, IMO it's still worth removing that 25%... especially considering how much trouble it *isn't* to have some flavor of magnetic particle retention solution in the oil circulation path.
@adriantaylor9535
@adriantaylor9535 4 дні тому
Obviously it works magnets have been used in cars and industries too clean oil for a hundred years, the only reason car manufacturers went away from it was bean counters and they don’t care what happens after warranty is out, that’s why new car manufacturers tell us too change oil every 15,000 ks which is straight out wrong. PS I’ve been building motors for 50 years.
@Harold_Callahan
@Harold_Callahan 3 дні тому
I've heard people say this is a waste of time because engines are mostly aluminum. And yes they are mostly aluminum but aren't the parts that wear the most like bearings and rings etc made out of steel? I've never done this but am thinking about trying it out. Good video.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 3 дні тому
A lot of the moving parts are metal. For me its a win
@tcpUtube1
@tcpUtube1 7 годин тому
That is eye opening? I’m going to talk with my mechanic about this.
@bm_wuratli6883
@bm_wuratli6883 8 днів тому
U should compare 500mile oil normal vs 500mile oil magnetic fir exemple and test oil these both in labo im curious how pany particle catch the magnetic one...
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 8 днів тому
After all the feedback I am considering doing the test. I started looking for companies yesterday. I just added friction reducer to the oil and then thought how would I test it after... thanks
@LoveLikeaHurricane
@LoveLikeaHurricane 8 днів тому
I use filter mag on filters. It can only help, also helps peace of mind about the oil filter not spinning off on certain high reving engines due to vibrations
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 8 днів тому
Hello glad to hear you are using it. They are pricy but definitely worth the extra protection. thanks
@28704joe
@28704joe 5 днів тому
That's metal before the filter , the filter will prevent that from going back into the engine. Thats big stuff for a filter it'll get it all.
@oceanwaves83
@oceanwaves83 4 дні тому
He explained that directly in the video. The less of that stuff caught by the filter, the more the filter can do its job. And anything larger than the oil membrane barrier in your bearings, cam lobes, etc. Will cause wear. If you have a diesel I'd look into bypass filtration systems
@28704joe
@28704joe 3 дні тому
@@oceanwaves83 If you got so much big stuff ( the magnet doesn't get) in your filter that prevents it from doing its job , you got big problems.
@j.b.9895
@j.b.9895 4 дні тому
Hope you still think the maintenance package on your new car is a good deal after waiting a couple of hours for each service
@dazzahaywood3298
@dazzahaywood3298 2 дні тому
What if as on my vauxhall it's inside an actual case
@markwiegard8384
@markwiegard8384 4 дні тому
Is the oil pulled through the filter? Potentially the metal particles are stuck to the magnet before the oil goes through the filter. Possible the magnets extends the efficiency of the oil filter and is a good thing. The magnetic oil plug does a better job before the oil goes through the filter. When the engine isn’t running and the oil settles to the bottom of the pan slowly pulling the particulate through the oil when the engine isn’t running over several hours. I would be interested in a micron measurement of the smallest particles captured by the magnets then compare the hole sizes in the filter. The larger particles would be caught by the filter anyway. How small of particles does the filter claim it catches? Then measure the smallest size captured by the magnetic. The smaller the metal particles the more wear. Like fine sandpaper slowly wearing away any friction point.
@SpikeArrowood
@SpikeArrowood 8 днів тому
I even remember a lot of the farmer in New Mexico, where I used to live, would put magnets on the fuel line/filter and it was supposed to "aline" the molecules of the gas to make the engine run better.....any ideas on this?
@jd646
@jd646 8 днів тому
I've heard of this
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 8 днів тому
I have not heard of this but doing some research found magnetic fuel filters. Looks like magnets are used in more things that we know. thanks
@SpikeArrowood
@SpikeArrowood 8 днів тому
@@ExtremDIY it's like...is it "snake oil" or is it legit? The farmers would use the cow magnets from the co-op duct taped around the fuel filters. I guess it could double as a safety to catch metal fragments or rust in the system
@SpikeArrowood
@SpikeArrowood 8 днів тому
@@ExtremDIY I have a Mercedes 240d, I got a strong magnet the size of the primary spin on filter just in case there is ugly in the fuel system
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 8 днів тому
@@SpikeArrowood Good to know for fuel also. thanks
@helenmachelen4200
@helenmachelen4200 4 дні тому
How does it work with aluminum engines?
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 3 дні тому
Only magnetic particles would work. There are some metal parts that still function in a aluminum motor that have wear and can be collected by the magnet. Thanks
@MichaelPruitt-mg3sj
@MichaelPruitt-mg3sj 3 дні тому
Cool and make great common sense. Trans mag on bottom of oil filter where metal settles could be better? Good viedo
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 3 дні тому
Thank you
@MWR-lg9qp
@MWR-lg9qp 5 днів тому
I've added no less than magnetic drain plugs to every vehicle I've owned for at least 10 years. I've also added magnets to my oil filters over the years, but that's just slightly more work to manage. I mean, it's so cheap to add a magnetic plug or Amazon magnets to a filter these days, why wouldn't you do it.
@BulletSpoung
@BulletSpoung 2 дні тому
This is a very old trick and there is no way it could do anything but good, no down side.
@user-yo1pk4ky4k
@user-yo1pk4ky4k 5 днів тому
This magnet thing is a popular notion and couldn't do any harm. But automotive engineers and professional mechanic usually say it is not needed as the oil filter will catch particles big enough to cause harm. Still, the stuff small enough to get through the filter could still do damage under extreme conditions of very old oil, excessive heat, or low oil -- AKA, neglect. Regardless, I am surprised a few filter manufacturers don't add magnets to their filters as a gimmick and then advertise this since the idea is so popular.
@douglasmontgomery6315
@douglasmontgomery6315 4 дні тому
User...incorrect. I have many papers..one from GM themselves showing that the particles that cause the most damage are under 10 microns....well below the BEST filters filtration spec and seeing how most people don't use the best filters (especially if they are getting budget oil changes)...even more reason to use magnets
@byronrichards3001
@byronrichards3001 4 дні тому
Nice upload, very informative. Stay dirty and efficient...
@louf7178
@louf7178 6 днів тому
I use a magnet from an old speaker. I placed it on the bottom of the oil pan. You have me thinking that's not too effective of a place. (One on the transmission pan also.)
@albertoborrero8306
@albertoborrero8306 3 дні тому
I think that you are doing a great job. I put strong magnets on the metal filter surface and that is another addition. My car does not allow for your idea... I like it.
@diabolo3506
@diabolo3506 4 дні тому
Hello. This disassembled and opened blue filter does not have a safety valve, why?
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 4 дні тому
hi yes it does come with one. I didnt add to the video since it wasnt about the filter it was about the magnets.
@joeldoxtator9804
@joeldoxtator9804 4 дні тому
Seems to me that this might being doing a disservice to longevity. You have to figure that engine oil is formulated to run with a bit of micronized metal in it. If you are constantly pulling that out of the oil, you are essentially keeping the oil empty which in my mind would be like running distilled water in a system. It would slowly leech even more metal over time to fill the oil.
@martin-vv9lf
@martin-vv9lf 4 дні тому
I think your metal saturation theory would only apply if the oil was acidic, since the iron oxides would make it more basic. it has no basis in the little chemistry i learned. my worry is that by gathering clumps of iron particles in the filter, some will break free and destroy the bearings. this would not be an issue with drain plug magnets, since the clumps would scatter before they exited the filter.
@DGQ1Q2
@DGQ1Q2 5 днів тому
one questions, what about the small metal parts get magnetized and get inside of the motor in any metal part, that is the only concern I have.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 5 днів тому
Once they are on the magnet I dont believe they will go back to the motor. If they pass the magnet most likely they filter element will catch them if they are bigger than 20 microns of size.
@jimhmod
@jimhmod 4 дні тому
FYI-Those AC-Delco oil filters are now made overseas, at least the ones from Walmart.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 3 дні тому
That is good to know. I did a little digging and found somewhere that they have filtering over 39 microns so time to switch to a better option. Doing some searching for a good filter. I get oil at Walmart Valvoline Extended Protection or Penzoil Unltra. They seem to have a great additive package for the price.
@maxwebster7572
@maxwebster7572 4 дні тому
It definitely doesn't hurt but you need a copper magnet for the bearing material.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 3 дні тому
I think by removing any ferrous metals with the magnet we have more opportunity for the filter element to catch other non ferrous metals. A good filter that filters al least 20 microns should work nicely with quality oil and max 5k intervals oil changes.
@spiralnapkin
@spiralnapkin 3 дні тому
I just don't see how they benefit anything. Sure, magnets couldn't hurt so I'd never say you SHOULDNT add magnets, but the unfiltered oil is the oil that enters the filter on the outer edge of the filter, goes through the medium, then to the center of the filter and into the block. That means the magnets caught when would have been trapped in the filter anyway.
@davidszakacs6888
@davidszakacs6888 2 дні тому
Any metal particles small enough to get through the filter element are not going to cause any engine damage.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY День тому
I rather take no chances if I had started earlier. What about seals. Next oil change will get sent out for analysis to see if it makes a difference. thanks
@mohammada4315
@mohammada4315 6 днів тому
But engines made of aluminum will magnet work on it?
@scrappy7571
@scrappy7571 6 днів тому
Lots of moving parts are made from ferrous metals. Chains and cams wear.
@Travis8126
@Travis8126 3 дні тому
Without the magnets I would assume the filter would catch all the metal??? And why do you have so much metal coming from that engine, something is going on with that engine.
@bladi496
@bladi496 День тому
I would be more worried if this amount of metal shaving is normal. If it is, then just changing the oil is good enough. Magnets are overkill.
@srinandu4597
@srinandu4597 5 днів тому
How can one use magnets on a canister paper filters on BMW with Plastic oil filter housing.
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 5 днів тому
Velcro strap or some wide rubber bands, to hold them around the outside of the housing? Just a thought.
@srinandu4597
@srinandu4597 5 днів тому
@@RANDOMNATION907 these both might not work as they will burn with heat from engine as the Oil filter housing is close to the engine. May be some wire or heat resistant wrap/tape might work. Wonder if its still worth it.
@johngibson3837
@johngibson3837 3 дні тому
Rubber pipe clamp
@srinandu4597
@srinandu4597 День тому
@@johngibson3837 good idea thanks... will try that
@mikegordon8178
@mikegordon8178 2 дні тому
Do it if it makes you feel better. All this metal was picked up before it is trapped by the element. It will not pick up non-ferrous wear metals. The bypass valve only comes into play during an extreme oil pressure jump where your screwed already anyway. Still magnets are cheap and no harm no foul. I had a Honda motorcycle. 1970 CL100 that no element type filter, it had a centrifugal filter that was very effective. I wonder why that technology is no longer used.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 2 дні тому
Never heard of the centrifugal oil filter. Interesting concept.
@delcorick9967
@delcorick9967 6 днів тому
Can the old filter cans that have been cut open be re-used as soda cans?? shave off or make smooth the sharp edges then use can as maybe beer cup? there just gotta be another use for these! Great Video!
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 6 днів тому
The thing is that the bottom is not always flat and can tip over easily. Interesting idea. Thanks
@351cleavland
@351cleavland 7 днів тому
Dont know if it makes a difference but when i put magnets on my filters i only have them near center of the cylinder. My thinking is that the metal pressure relief might be affected depending on magnet strenght.
@gingerbolam
@gingerbolam 2 дні тому
Just to confirm did this come off of a 2.7L Chevy Silverado?
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 2 дні тому
Its a 6.2 gm
@aldolaclasss
@aldolaclasss День тому
peut on m expliquer pourquoi les particules de métal sont "autour" de l aimant et pas sous toute sa surface ? Il faudrait donc utiliser des aimants fins , étroits en plus grand nombre , que 4 gros aimants ... MERCI vidéos sympa , en plus les aimants doivent se comporter en "RADIATEURS" supplémentaires , augmentant la surface d'échange 🤔👍thermique du filtre.
@brianjones2070
@brianjones2070 8 днів тому
Is that a chevy
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 8 днів тому
2016 escalade 6.2
@roybatty2030
@roybatty2030 4 дні тому
Would be more probative to analyse the oil for contamination, with and without magnets.
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 3 дні тому
That is my plan for the next oil change. Will also be testing different magnet types. thanks
@brianmorgan3659
@brianmorgan3659 7 днів тому
Maybe you could cut the element open and stretch the accordion out and compare
@ExtremDIY
@ExtremDIY 7 днів тому
I will do it for the next one I need to put some miles on this fresh oil change. thanks
@robertpointer7904
@robertpointer7904 6 днів тому
Are the magnets reusable?
@PrinssiFO
@PrinssiFO 6 днів тому
Of course.
@robertpointer7904
@robertpointer7904 6 днів тому
@@PrinssiFOThanks. I know it was kind of a stupid question. Just wanted to make sure. Looking at the magnets on the Amazon page it looked like it had the adhesive tape on them. I guess that’s to separate the magnets from sticking during shipping and packing so they won’t be hard to separate before using
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