Rob Delaney reads a letter sent by an Ancient Roman who had been stood up

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3 місяці тому

One evening in the year 97 AD, Roman lawyer Pliny the Younger found himself alone at his dinner table, a seat conspicuously empty. His friend Septicius Clarus, who had promised to join him for a night of food, wine, and conversation, had failed to appear. Pliny responded with a snub letter.
Rob Delaney joined us at the 10th anniversary Letters Live show at London's Royal Albert Hall to read Pliny's letter.

КОМЕНТАРІ: 58
@Terri_MacKay
@Terri_MacKay 3 місяці тому
He was offering comedians, readers, AND lyre players, and he was still stood up?? I hope that those dancing girls from Cadiz were worth it. 🤣🤣
@Barefoot_Joe
@Barefoot_Joe 3 місяці тому
You know they were worth it, he got whipped for that insult
@Terri_MacKay
@Terri_MacKay 3 місяці тому
@@Barefoot_Joe 🤣🤣
@laupernut
@laupernut 3 місяці тому
Dancing girls and oysters 🤔👍
@laupernut
@laupernut 3 місяці тому
Dancing girls and oysters 🤔👍
@Terri_MacKay
@Terri_MacKay 3 місяці тому
@@laupernut I forgot about the oysters. Now it makes sense. 😂
@tamsinpurkess5646
@tamsinpurkess5646 3 місяці тому
What’s striking is that this letter was preserved, either by the sender, who might’ve thought better of sending once he’d sobered, or by the recipient, who might’ve shown it to her friends for amusement. 😂
@lomax343
@lomax343 3 місяці тому
Pliny the Younger preserved most of his letters - sent and received. Various collections of them have been published, and they make interesting reading.
@favouritemoon4133
@favouritemoon4133 3 місяці тому
Septicius Clarus was a man.
@SiiriCressey
@SiiriCressey 3 місяці тому
This voice is ideal for this letter.
@RobertDPore
@RobertDPore 3 місяці тому
"I survived Vesuvius for THIS?!'
@pendorran
@pendorran 3 місяці тому
That's Pliny the Elder. He didn't survive. 🙂
@RobertDPore
@RobertDPore 3 місяці тому
Both Plinys were there - we only know about Elder's part in it because Younger wrote his first hand account to Tacitus several decades later. In fact, Pliny the Younger had to flee his home with his mother as ash rained down on them.
@kristenrosales2919
@kristenrosales2919 3 місяці тому
I would love to dine with Pliny the Younger, especially when he has a list of entertainers and excellent food to offer. This is an opportunity that I could not miss.
@youneverknow1316
@youneverknow1316 3 місяці тому
Pliny speaks of "Barley Water". Fun fact is that Russian River Brewing Company has an IPA named Pliny the Elder which has been one of the top rated IPA's for some time (Also a seasonal Pliny the Younger) I had only heard of their involvement in eruption of Vesuvius after I visited Pompeii.
@CatsJP
@CatsJP 3 місяці тому
The Romans even had Michellin star dining back in 97 AD…Heston Blumenthal and Gordon Ramsay..eat your heart out..😂😂😂
@Tysto
@Tysto Місяць тому
Before passive aggressiveness was invented, Romans were just straight-up aggressive.
@jcsrst
@jcsrst 3 місяці тому
People have always been petty😂
@HighKingTurgon
@HighKingTurgon 3 місяці тому
In two decades of Latin study, I never expected Pliny to sound like that. Original text, for those interested (delightfully, he includes a full, polite salutation to Clarus): C. Plinius Septicio Claro suo s. Heus tu! Promittis ad cenam, nec venis? Dicitur ius: ad assem impendium reddes, nec id modicum. [2] Paratae erant lactucae singulae, cochleae ternae, ova bina, halica cum mulso et nive - nam hanc quoque computabis, immo hanc in primis quae perit in ferculo -, olivae betacei cucurbitae bulbi, alia mille non minus lauta. Audisses comoedos vel lectorem vel lyristen vel - quae mea liberalitas - omnes. [3] At tu apud nescio quem ostrea vulvas echinos Gaditanas maluisti. Dabis poenas, non dico quas. Dure fecisti: invidisti, nescio an tibi, certe mihi, sed tamen et tibi. Quantum nos lusissemus risissemus studuissemus! [4] Potes apparatius cenare apud multos, nusquam hilarius simplicius incautius. In summa experire, et nisi postea te aliis potius excusaveris, mihi semper excusa. Vale.
@tamsinpurkess5646
@tamsinpurkess5646 3 місяці тому
“A thousand other dishes” hm 🤔
@HighKingTurgon
@HighKingTurgon 3 місяці тому
Untranslated is the last line: in summa experire-et nisi postea te aliis potius excusaveris-mihi semper excusa; i.e., "to conclude, after this you will always need to excuse yourself to me, even if you don't need to make excuses to others." It makes a LITTLE bit more sense when you realize that Pliny and Clarus were good friends.
@kristenrosales2919
@kristenrosales2919 3 місяці тому
From which letter and volume did you find in Pliny the Younger's letters from? I have volume one in digital form.
@HighKingTurgon
@HighKingTurgon 3 місяці тому
@@kristenrosales2919 I'm only aware of a single volume of epistles. This one is usually numbered eleven.
@kristenrosales2919
@kristenrosales2919 3 місяці тому
@@HighKingTurgon Thank you very much. I will look into it. In addition, thank you for transcribing the original letter in latin.
@ShastaOrange
@ShastaOrange 2 місяці тому
Dude must have been kicking himself when he realized he could have been eating snails instead of sea urchins.
@jeanhawken4482
@jeanhawken4482 3 місяці тому
Love it
@BeOurBee
@BeOurBee 3 місяці тому
"We could have had a great causal time, innocent and unguarded, but now I'm going to sue you." More like WHINY the Younger, m i rite?
@Ike_of_pyke
@Ike_of_pyke 2 місяці тому
Like an rpg dialogue box > [Bye] "Farewell" (npc walks away )
@chocolatefrenzieya
@chocolatefrenzieya 3 місяці тому
Aww, poor guy, I'm sure that hurt! And yes, snow was rare and hard to come by! It is hard to compete with dancing girls, though. I hope they made up!
@catherinemori4496
@catherinemori4496 3 місяці тому
Pliny! Letters I.15
@deathybrs
@deathybrs 3 місяці тому
She was right to stand him up.
@luciahoneybee
@luciahoneybee 3 місяці тому
*He. The person whom Pliny was waiting for, Septicius, was a man as well.
@blindknitter
@blindknitter 3 місяці тому
I was here to say that!
@elenabal4885
@elenabal4885 3 місяці тому
@@blindknitter Yes, a man. No need to be here, have to know a bit ancient roman culture
@my3boysms
@my3boysms 2 місяці тому
are these letters real
@aps-pictures9335
@aps-pictures9335 3 місяці тому
Lol Roman ‘Nice Guy’
@HighKingTurgon
@HighKingTurgon 3 місяці тому
You don't ask a woman to dinner in ancient Rome. This is men's correspondence.
@aps-pictures9335
@aps-pictures9335 3 місяці тому
@@HighKingTurgon the relevancy of your point is?
@HighKingTurgon
@HighKingTurgon 3 місяці тому
@@aps-pictures9335 Pliny's letter is inconsistent with the behavior of a Nice Guy. Many of the claims are similar, but the tone and outcome are thoroughly distinct.
@aps-pictures9335
@aps-pictures9335 3 місяці тому
@@HighKingTurgon in what way?
@HighKingTurgon
@HighKingTurgon 3 місяці тому
@@aps-pictures9335 this is a letter from one man teasing his good friend for ignoring the lavish party he threw and expected him at. He's not hitting Clarus up for a hot date.
@hannekezijlmans6578
@hannekezijlmans6578 3 місяці тому
🐌🐌🐌 🤣
@GimpyChinaman
@GimpyChinaman 3 місяці тому
OG Noce Guy
@kristenrosales2919
@kristenrosales2919 3 місяці тому
I wonder how much did Pliny the Younger spend on this dinner? That must have been quite a large sum.
@catherinemori4496
@catherinemori4496 3 місяці тому
Is this Martial?
@HighKingTurgon
@HighKingTurgon 3 місяці тому
Pliny. To his friend Clarus also of the imperial court.
@olorin4317
@olorin4317 2 місяці тому
More like Pliny the Whinger.
@sv3216
@sv3216 Місяць тому
It sounds like Trump 😅
@vivalaleta
@vivalaleta 3 місяці тому
Performing girls from Cadiz? Ew
@user-ln6qt1bp8v
@user-ln6qt1bp8v 3 місяці тому
This guy is rubbish. When you don't know what to do: just shout.
@TheFrygar
@TheFrygar 2 місяці тому
ya I'm not sure what the thought process was here - I think a teenager in a drama class could pull off a funnier and more interesting interpretation of this letter
@Ike_of_pyke
@Ike_of_pyke 2 місяці тому
Like an rpg dialogue box > [Bye] "Farewell" (npc walks away )
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