That’s how sh*t works here in Sweden, horrifying.

Honestly like, she was literally tortured to death and beheaded, yet that doesn't matter 'cause she wore a pretty dress??

@@JessicaOlzzon004 damn....

@@pastelstarsugar right?!!! Just because im wearing a pretty dress, it doesn't give them the right to do so? and blame me for something i literally didn't do myself!

And soooooo typical 😕. To those people, men will always be the victim, even if they are the perpetrator.

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I'm danish. This is literally the first time I have ever heard of anyone victim blaming Kim. I'm not surprised that it's from social media. That's the only place where losers like that would come out of the woodwork to spew such nonsense. Their voices are best disregarded, but I get that Stephanie has her narrative that she wants to reiterate every video. Still, this is not a reflection of the vast majority of people in Scandinavia nor our opinions on Kim as a victim.

Was she wearing an effing outfit that said, "I am an available victim for your $nuff fantasy, please torture, assault, and kill me"? Because barring that, I am not sure how clothing could be blamed for his dark urges and objectification of a real human woman.

​@@plantemorum...I don't think she is trying to "reiterate a narrative". She straight up said, " people online," were saying these things. Violence against women is not a narrative, and neither is victim blaming. Both of these things happen all over the place, all the time. She didn't say everyone was saying this, she didn't say people in Denmark were saying it. Again, she said, "people online."

It's so disturbing that people will blame a woman's clothing and not blame the person who committed a heinous, inhumane act. How can you hear a story like this and think there would be any rational explanation for what he did, let alone the reason being her clothing??? No one and I mean NO ONE would ever have a reason for doing this, how tf are these people more disturbed by her clothing than his act?

@@helianabanes4875 seeing this comment you made, it's about the most perfect use of the English language and that is something that I have to spend some more time to get better at myself. A+

Lmao spot on

It wouldn't have been her fault regardless of it being premeditated or not. Clothes don't kill/ rape or torture people, that's just sick individuals acting on their own free will. There's been many TODDLERS who have gone through it. Clothes are NEVER an excuse.

Exactly my point.

@@okimi--kokoro4550 yeah I know lol, just adding to it 😂

It wouldn't matter if it wasn't premeditated! No one asks to be murdered...I'd say at all but certainly not by their choice of clothing. Even if she did dress up because she wanted to flirt with him and thought this would maybe sorta turn into a date, flirting with someone doesn't mean you want to be murdered!

I know, and that's the one thing I cannot stop thinking about :( imagine how helpless she felt, ghosh... It's so heartbreaking and sad.

The prison he went to, smh, it’s like a freaking hotel too, some punishment, so messed up, so wrong

@azizaashling3134 he does not deserve to be in a place like that, he murdered people. Hate to think someone like that is barely getting punishment

@@Aziza_Nyxie_Jynx_AshlingI suspect he is in a pretty regular danish prison.

Plus the torture she endured with no way to escape. Tortured and stabbed multiple times. So horrific.

Same, I realised this from seeing comments about it and I remember how slightly jarring it was to hear mainly from the victims side with these things. It at first almost felt made up because its so unheared of to hear sm about the victims and their lives. I'm really glad she does it from this angle, the victims feel like actual humans, instead of just a name the killer took

Ikr, you feel like you knew them

Yes! It makes you feel anguish for the victims pain. Stephanie does a good job not painting the murderer as some mastermind as others do

I just commented this. I’ve been feeling for a while like I had not much feeling’s about true crime stories. I think a lot of peoples are getting detached from their feelings when watching true crime and I think we really need more people who focus on the victims like she does. They focus so much on the killers to the point that some people are becoming fans of them or finding them sexy. Talking about the victims is reminding us that there’s real people who died, we should give more attention to people that should be remembered and less about giving some celebrity to the killers

I watched a few of your vids then I went to another channel and they were so boring compared to you I love everything you make

probably just some fetishist who's jealous that this didn't happen to her

WTF. how is he even allowed to get married in prison. especially considering his crime was against a woman and he has a fetish for hurting them

​@@filippa2070_Hybristophilia_ - A paraphilia involving sexual interest in and attraction to those who commit crimes, is shockingly common among women. High profile serial killers usually have fans/groupies sending them love letters, and they are routinely married in prison.

She’s a perfect embodiment of how internalized misogyny and being a dumb b*!ch can have long lasting effects on the brain.

Oh god it’s Ted Bundy all over again

Overall I agree with your statement, but I think misogynistic is a better descriptor. Because there's no bravery or cowardliness, it's just hatred of women.

@@lanawesterbeck9439trueeee a ginormous absolutely IMMEASURABLE amount mix of the two that created that thing we call “Peter”

The thing is most of the time they grow a hatred for both parents but since the relationship between the mother is often disorganized and sort of off and on in terms of kindness and allowing the father to do the abuse a psychopath child can often be wired to blame the mom more because the expectation is protection and comfort and they don't get that. So often times the hatred for women comes from a twisted sense of betrayal in these particular situations. Other times the hatred comes from the mom being physically or mainly sexually abusive towards the child. It's sort of interesting concept just how much the environment of a child with psychopathy can actually effect their views of different types of people in the world, because they lack empathy their mind jumps straight to extreme spasific stereotypes.

It’s the same thing when the genders are reversed as well. As she was saying it I realized that it’s exactly how my stepdaughter treats her father. Her mother is verbally and physically abusive and yet she still has this unending loyalty to her mother, almost like she’s scared that if she stops being super respectful to her mother, her mom will stop loving her. She however doesn’t fear that with dad, because dad gives her unconditional love. Yet she treats her dad like he is an idiot (even though he is super smart, and has a job that requires much more intelligence than what her mother does) and she has absolutely no respect for him. She strangely has more respect for me than she does her own father. He was and still is often verbally abused by her mother and their daughter just treats him the same way his ex treats him. It’s a strange psychology that I’m still trying to understand fully. Her dad is so loving and yet she barely returns that love at all. Humans are so complex.

I suspect that amongst the volunteers for his rocket project he got in close contact with some really smart girls, knowing so much more about what he was bragging to be his specialty. I think that kind of annoyingly rocked his world where he convinced himself his mom and other women are "dumb as a cat" and made him want to reestablish his self confidence through physical domination over a smart woman. He wanted to see her totally degraded, dehumanized and humiliated just to feel better about himself, just to be the stronger one, the one in charge... It's sad their prisons are so nice. He deserves to rot in a hole in the ground, all alone. Hope he somehow gets to the hell he chose to admire really soon.

They need to stop letting journalists interview him as he clearly loves talking about himself too much.

this disgusting narcissist will never understand what empathy feels like...

Seriously. I feel like I'm suffocating just listening to this, yet I can't even begin to comprehend the horror she went through. May her soul rest in peace, and his rot.

I'm infuriated knowing he escaped if even for a few moments. And danish prisons are quite nice. I hope he's forever ignored by every human being that isn't forced to interact with him and never interviewed until his slow and painful death.

Just thinking about it tho...He's seriously a villain...

God this terrifies me

A woman will interact with hundreds of men in their lives. But all it takes is one, and no one knows which one could be it.

That's an ignorant statement! Sometimes the man standing next to her is her may be her grandfather, brother, nephew, or son! It's not about gender It's about whether a person is good or not regardless of gender!

@@Ara-wo6wkthose are all a woman's relatives.. who we expect to protect us so ur point doesn't make sense lol. most women experience SA and typically by men so 👍🏻 can't argue facts

@@puppyuwu And most women experience it from the men she knows in her life. So the comment makes even less sense.

It’s so terrible. Misogyny runs deep in this world..deeper than the average women could even understand..

Literally its fuckin mental

Var her for at skrive det samme som dig 😀

Thank you for telling us But most definitely!! Someone else also commented they don’t believe this was his first time and I agree. This man is twisted in the heart and mind, Kim wasn’t the only one I believe too.

It is a shame Denmark prison's are so luxurious. He deserves to be rotting in a South American prison whilst everybody knows his crimes 😢

She's the true crime podcast version of Kim Wall. May Kim Wall rest in peace.

I became a fan over the weekend and I've already listened to probably 20+ hours between UKposts and Spotify 😂 she's great!!!

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Same, same here...

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I’m from Norway, and this was like HUGE for all of Scandinavia for sure!

@@urangmyphone265 Sant 😨

i'm from Sweden and i've never heard of this story ever in my life until this day

@@cutiebunbunbow Really?! How old were you at the time?

I remember this case as i was like 14 back then. Im not far from Copenhagen. I remember the articles about the torso when it was found. We don't hear about this kinda stuff in scandinavia much. I and my classmates were so horrified and curious about what monster would do that.Hope he gets the pain he put her through one day.

Have you watched Binged?

she’s the best!

same! my old teacher also knew him.

Apparently they often find body parts of women in the Copenhagen harbour, they just don't tell people 🤷‍♀️

​@@unturned6066that makes me suspect that many of these women are not danish citizens or they're sex workers. Otherwise there would be more missing person reports?

Yes it does!!!!!

Yes, prayers and blessings to Kim’s family. Such a tragic and heartbreaking story 🙏❤️🕊️

It did. I remember when it happened. It was all over the news.

she’s a female journalist & they were male billionaires. her murderer was also a rich male. misogyny is alive & well.

Ikr, this was 2017. I don't remember hearing about this in America. I'm sure it was reported on but not like the Titan. This story is worse in my opinion.

And to be honest, people are more interested in a hopefull case like the recent submarine thing the dudes where alive, in our minds, so we were hopefull to make fun of them, or be sad for them, the interest stopped as soon as we had confirmation that they are dead. But in cases where there is already death there is not much interest tbh. The people are surrounded by death so they are kind of getting numbed by the news of another horrible murder.

@@xKitamarux that’s very true, and unfortunately the memes is what made it so viral 😢

For real like why why was it her I feel so bad that she died bc of someone else’s actions

Horrific. She's my age. Before you're 30 most people don't even have a clue what they wanna do, including me! She had it all set out, she knew her goals and she was living them. It's monstrous how he took her I hope he selfends tbh

Indeed. RIP Kim. 😔🇩🇰

i've seen her face many times before in school but i never thought that this happend to her

@@cutiebunbunbow :/

Usually they do an evaluation if the person is safe for release or not. In this case it's 100% not safe since he is so mentally ill he can't get better. So he is gonna do his time and then move into a ward for the rest of his life.

@@elelith7802damn. I’m so glad I’m not him, this shit is not even worth it. He lowkey had a lot going for himself. But he just had to ruin everything for everyone

I know right?! He had a team of people who were in it for passion/love and not the money. Corporate America tries to get people to work for free/cheap (f them), but this guy got it. He HAD it. And he not only threw his life away (had a lot going for him; inspired a lot of people), but he also wasted all the dream team’s time and effort. Down the drain. No one will ever work on that project again. The world will say that civilians working on spaceships is dumb and this leave it up to the gov….Everyone got spooked and scattered. Poor woman got murdered. Years of hard work, sweat and tears….gone Dang…just dang

​@@elelith7802Um...that evaluation has failed quite a bit. There are a lot of serial killers or murderers who were in jail and were released because they were deemed safe for the public and then what you know, they kill again.

@@thatasiangirl0_039 In Denmark?? Well that's wild.. haven't really heard about it in news.

Ja det sandt, og at ham og Peter Lundin ikke kan fordrage hinanden (selvom de ikke ser hinanden i deres forvirringsdom)

I’m from Norway, and this was like HUGE for all of Scandinavia for sure!

⁠@@urangmyphone265yes I’m from Sweden and this hurt everyone..

​@@urangmyphone265are you capable of writing any other comments than this one or are you just a weird bot? This is the fourth time I have seen you post this comment. Weird

For real. Rest in peace 🕊️ Kim 🙏 especially her family

I hope he never gets out and rots. Rest in peace Kim.

I live in Asia and I surprised to hear that this happened in peaceful Denmark, bcos the country is famous for being safe and peaceful.

swede here too, it was honestly so unbelievable at first, everyone kind of believed his "oh it was an accident and i panicked :(" story at first. no way someone would do something so horrible in denmark... right? but it wasn't just an intentional murder. it was a premeditated and planned murder. that's scary

No place is safe. There are twisted people everywhere :( scary world

Women are safe nowhere in the world. Little girls are safe nowhere in the world. Not even in one of the safest countries. And that's the reality women must live. 💔.

its because she used to do this stuff while eating and got called out for it. i support her now and enjoy her content but she used to do this in very poor taste not very long ago.

i’ve been watching stephanie since the beginning of her channel, and even when she still did true crime in her mukbangs i think she was still extremely respectful and tasteful with her storytelling, regardless of it being in mukbang context. But while i didn’t see any problem or disrespect in it, i can understand how others might, and i’m glad that she took the constructive criticism well and adjusted her content accordingly. she’s so hard working and amazing at telling people’s stories, and i think her set up now with the separate series’s and channels is even more enjoyable, so all went for the best :)

You can only have true Empathy as an Antinatalist not a Pronatalist.

​@@KyleEvraYou are brainwashed. Get Well and enjoy life! 🍀

@@vallerie8893 true but the subtle seo with a submarine story around this time is eh, plus as I was watching this, comments pointing this out started disappearing edit: spelling error

Holy shit I didn't even think about that last part. She can't kill him because he's the only one who can operate the sub, and even if she successfully defended herself and they both survived, there is no way in hell the dude would've let her go back home after that anyway. It's just so heartbreaking.

Wow, never thought of that before. Makes it even more sad to think about what she must have went through.

@@jihyosspicytoenail9921 another reason why you should absolutely NOT trust a stranger no matter his reputation. Always take one other person with you. Just to be sure.

@@billybro1403 It's literary her job.

​@FaithLehan correct. But it's tragic that she didn't take a cameraman or photographer with her for an interview in a potentially dangerous location.

Wish it was quick. But sadly that’s not even close to what he did to her. She was brutally tortured her body, he tortured her over and over and only stoped, when she was on the edge that she almost died. Just cause he didn’t wanna kill her that quick he wanted to take his time with her. And this kept going for hours. Before he decided to kill her and disembodied her and threw her out like trash 😢 her body showed the signs of how horrible torture she went through 😰

@kuma194 Omg that sounds brutal that poor women she lived such a beautiful life but she had so much more time to experience it that sick man took from her and the way she died its just so sick and evil :/

omg that's even more heartbreaking

This sounds interesting. I wanna know more. Thanks

I Hope Steph sees this

I’m from Norway, and this was like HUGE for all of Scandinavia for sure!

omg yeah i really want to hear about it from steph more too (even tho im from denmark and know everything lmao)

@@augustrush9854 Recently, a young girl - not Emilie Ment - was kidnapped while out on her bike. Thankfully, she was found alive after 24-ish hours and the kidnapper was arrested. The police is now looking into whether he was behind the disappearance of Emilie Meng, too. It seems there's some things matching between the cases - like apparently when Emilie disappeared years ago he owned a car that was seen on CCTV and that the police at the time thought might be relevant to the case. Hopefully, Emilie's family will finally see some sort of justice for their girl.

Thanks for your service!

Do you think she would have been able to figure out how to get the submarine to the surface, had she killed him in self defense? Or was her fate sealed from the get go?

Is that what's going on? I just thought they were total asshats...

They also don't want to imagine that it could easily be them next time

@@16poetisa Exactly or someone they know and care about!

​@@16poetisawhere...in a submarine?

@@16poetisa Idk about "easily" this was a very specific and isolated thing. Going alone inside a makeshift submarine with a guy you don't even know? How likely is that to happen, even his own female friends who knew him didn't want to go inside there alone with him

i’m so, so sorry. Carly sounds like she was absolutely lovely. RIP ❤️

Heaven gained an angel , may she rest in peace ❤

ur a hell of alot safer then men u just refuse to see it or just dont care

exactly, like okay i get that there are some kinks and fetishes out there that some women like being degraded and stuff, i dont mind that, but the problem is that men think all women are like that and they can just.. fulfill any of their fantasies like what are you on?

@@meretheo4035 XD u are the problem XD all women think they men should protect them.... all women think they shouldnt hav to be resposible for their own safty as a gender an rely on other men to not hurt them....... i mean ur logic is sad not gonna lie...... no men dont think that at all... sure some do just like some women think thats what men think..... like you XD but i guess that doesnt work both ways right??? only men can hav ignorant views on the oposite gender right? XD.... i could say women think all men are rapists abusers and are free to be abused because they not aloud to hit back...... doesnt make me right , right?

@@meretheo4035 how about instead of refuring to abusive pos creeps as a gender why dont u refure to them as abusive creeps??? because both men AND women do this shit its not a gender issure.... u just hear about women being abused more because the world doesnt care about men

I don't like when people refer to women as dumb and made of glass.

Same

Thats awesome. He obviously loves being in the spotlight and for a lot of people to remember him as a monster who killed Kim instead of knowing his name is amazing

The "thing" that murdered her is such a fitting name for him. Don't give him the spotlight that he so clearly craves. He did an inhuman act, and he deserves to be treated as inhuman in return. Any human being who commits this kind of atrocious act is immediately categorized as inhuman in my mind. Once you've committed an act like he did, you're no longer a human, but something worth so much less and is so much more disgusting.

Same. I think Stephanie was exaggerating a bit there. It also made me chuckle when some clueless idiot in the comments declared that this case wasn't reported on because the victim was a woman and the murderer was a "millionaire". Bitch what? So many ignorant idiots in this comment section feeling very confident about spewing lies and misinformation about Denmark and about this case.

Sometimes people do kill their rapists. Those people are just women the very far majority of the time and do not get any press attention, instead they get very long prison sentences (much longer than you’d get from rape)

@@Emihasdreamstoo you shouldnt kill your rapist you shouldnt kill anyone ofc your going to go to jail longer for taking a life then raping someone there is no excuse to ever kill someone and most people that kill their rapists already was planing to do it you have to be a sick human being to take someones life

And the few that do feel and get utterly exploited after they do fight back. There was a killer on the I killed someone Jubilee episode. She was attacked with a knife by her serial attacker stepdad who would've done it to more women and she wasn't his first or last. He stabbed her multiple times in a sexual attack and she got the knife off him midattack and stabbed him to death in return. She feels no remorse and felt terrible having to tell her mother what she did, but she had to do it to survive. She feels exploited by media, including this channel as Rotten Mangos made a vid about her case whilst mukbanging... Since then rotten mangoes has cleaned up and become empathetic to victims but it wasn't like that before hence why I just started watching now. Even if they didn't address it as they should've they've clearly changed the way they cover cases and I'm glad to see empathetic true crime videos that focus on victims.

​@Emihasdreamstoo at least women get lower sentences for the same crimes as man statisticaly

She has that lol she has another channel with millions of subs. But yes, Stephanie has a great ability to tell these stories, she deserves all the love

Hyunjin biased AND Stephanie fan💓 helloooooo

@@Berry-ok9bj hi 😭😭 I literally love Stays and you’re a Stephanie fan too, could you be any cooler 🥹

I’m from Norway, and this was like HUGE for all of Scandinavia for sure!

@@urangmyphone265 It surely was. These things never really happen here, we were all shook to our core. Before this happened, I had recently read one of her articles, and I had seen a documentary obout him just a while before. It was so surreal.

I thought their married and have had their honeymoon

@@beyiokuibukun9602 theyre engaged and getting married in switzerland this week!!

He killed her because he wanted to kill a woman. It’s why he watched all of those snuff videos and requested female journalists to interview with. The questions didn’t matter.

I don't think that's the case, given that he asked multiple other women to join him in the submarine and Kim was the first one to say yes. He was just waiting for the first women to come along for him to carry out his sick fantasy.

I don't think you can "pre-plan" to be triggered. He was just a predator, and found a victim.

As a Dane, all I can say that this is the first time I every heard of supposed victim blaming. When the case was happening and in the years following I never once heard anyone blame Kim for what happened to her so I dunno where that comes from.

@@harleen222 yeah, but those have nothing to do with what she was wearing. That's a completely different argument. I think there's more of an argument to be made for a woman to not go with a strange man into a place where she cannot escape. That is basic self-preserverance. Where this argument fails in this case is that Peter was supposedly good at putting people at ease so she probably didn't even think it was a problem, as many people probably wouldn't. Add to that, that Kim had a lot of experience with throwing herself into dangerous situations so even if she had that nagging thought at the back of her head, which her joke to her boyfriend could have suggested, she probably didn't think it would be all that bad as she had found herself in much worse places. If I had been her, I would have probably thought that he could have made advances or in the worst case scenario done dome assaulty stuff, but it's only in hindsight that everyone can sit and talk about how it was obviously going to go the way it went. So yeah, while the point about her not going into the sub are not thought through, they are still a lot more valid than the supposed "what was she wearing" comments, which I have never seen anywhere while the whole case was happening. I also never saw the media talk about how she shouldn't have gone into the submarine. Whatever random people say online or to one another over the water cooler is not relevant. It was never reported as this whole thing being Kim's fault. No one who matters to this case ever said that.

​@@plantemorit's still victim blaming at the end of the day. Who the fuck would expect that to happen especially when things are meant to be professional.

@@plantemorthe irony that you are quite literally victim blaming.

@@Forevergreenclover I think you need to learn how to read better, then. I quite literally did not victim blame.

I’m at m

Ok but can we stop using this format of speaking? I see it on every video, from any youtuber (at least all the ones I'm subbed to), and it has become so effing annoying, is it just me who thinks that? The sentiment is wholesome and I agree, but the constant "can we just take a moment to appreciate" (and variations of it) is... well, I was about to say "beating a dead horse", but at this point it's more like "beating the asphalt where there once was a dead horse which has been beaten so much that now nothing remains of it". I thought Gen Z got tired of trends and sayings in mere days, if even a millennial like me is annoyed, something's wrong. Maybe it's me. Genuinely, who agrees though? I wanna know if it's just me.

i feel like people only comment this to get her attention cause they know it works 😐 like YES we get it, we all appreciate her videos and her hard work, but gosh am i tired of seeing people comment this.

​@@0Onyx13 it got to the point where you can't even find a comment where they discuss the actual topic of the video like if i want to see anyone's opinion o have to go and find the recent comment, these comments get annoying with time and make the comments section dry and less interactive

@@yuuuta0 Yes, it's kinda like the people who comment "Am I the only one who thinks she's so good at storytelling?" to get several thousand likes, like... yes, you're absolutely the only one, we all hate it, that's why we're subbed and keep watching her videos. Like, wut? And the fact that it's so obviously a "likes trap" yet it still works is bonkers. I feel like people like it and comment "me too!" to feel more unique and maybe some will even feel like if they don't actively agree they're not supporting or something, idk, herd mentality that I've never understood (hence why I was never able to make friends lol, but now joke's on them cause aside from my husband and my cat I don't want to see or hear from anyone cause I'm deeply introverted and socially anxious, HA!)

@@__rsa_0160 Honestly, I often scroll down to see if someone is talking about a certain thing that was said, whether it was an unintentional dirty joke, or an interesting fact I know and wasn't mentioned in the video and I want to see if anyone pointed it out, or anything else, I see SO MANY identical comments, all with thousands and thousands of likes... I found Stephanie only around 4 months ago so I've been watching all her older videos (sadly many I hadn't yet watched when she privated them), but I've found on 2 years old vids the same types of comments! How is this still a trend? People still say "I'm early" or "First" but since that has been beaten to death, they just get mocked in return... beats me.

@@joywilkinson3931 hes an incel

Finally someone with the same opinion as me ,doing the same is the best thing if there's clear proof like this because sometimes we can falsely judge someone but this was video proof so he deserves the same

I am not sure i agree. I think they shuld be seperated from society until the end of there natural life and never breath free air again but i dont think a prisoner should be tortured to death and murdered. I am not American maybe it is a culteral difference but would you be the one willing to torture and murder if you wish it as a punishment? Should you then be tortured and murdered for what you did? and then the person after you? Isnt something like this inherently wrong or is it ok. Does someones inhumanity make it justified to be inhumane to them? We need to be better to each other in general. So often it seems everyone is carrying violence and evil around and waiting to deliver it to people who they feel it is acceptable to brutalize. I dont think this kind of action is every justified. Lock him up and throw away the key.

did he know Maxwell?

Wow I remember this story when it happened. I'm glad it's covered here too. So scary

Me either. Metal capsule with thousands of pounds of pressure surrounding you…no. Just no. At Disneyland they have the Finding Nemo ride I thought I was going to have a heart attack. And it wasn’t so much the claustrophobia it was the being under water in a metal tube. I’ve learned recently I have Thalassophobia.

I can't even handle the Finding Nemo ride at Disneyland. I immediately felt like I was suffocating and the tops are still sticking out of the water lol

Literally she's trying too hard. She doesn't seem like shes being herself.

@@Noise_floorxxO Ok but that’s their own personal opinion so the reply wasn’t necessary