Yes, and that way you can turn the American "stroad" into a safer and normal road without center turning lanes.

Yeah, I really prefer to use a roundabout, when I'm driving in the wrong direction.

yea agree

Like when you miss a turn you fucked up

True that.

Daaaamn, brutal

An if you have too much going left from both side of road can grid lock roundabout as well

Calm down

Not with an EV. Yet another reason to drive electric.

Yes so true. Also if you do have to stop it'll be for a short time, not like a red light which you can be waiting for up to 2 mins for the light to change to green.

@@honesty_-no9he Actually with an EV, a vehicle would obviously use more energy accelerating from a complete stop than it would from maintaining some motion. All the more reason to improve how we make each node (read: vehicle) on the network interact at and around points of conflict!

@@honesty_-no9he Be it ICE or electric or Nuclear powered or hydrogen fueled or even be it bicycle or a running human, It is universal fact that acceleration from 0 requires more energy.

but also traffic lights can be synced in a way that you wouldn't have to stop when going at the speed limit. At every single roundabout you have to slow down or stop which does hinder fuel economy.

In Europe roundabouts are popular while four way stops are not. In the USA it's the opposite.

Stop lying. I live in France, traffic lights are almost double than roundabouts

@@hichamelbesseghi3317 you do realise that there is a differnece between traffic lights and 4 ways stop

how about a update now?

Roundabouts are perfect for replacing 4 way stops.😊

It's clogged either because people don't know to use it ( and don't want to learn ) or because there are 4 ways intersections near it that actually clogg it

@@thomas_arvl Yes, the traffic jam is usually because of a traffic light jam near the roundabout.

3000 cars per hour is 50 cars per minute which means most of the day for large parts of the United States meaning there's nothing wrong with using intersections especially since they save tons of space and are therefore better suited to cities towns and neighborhoods where space is very important

@@thomas_arvl You Yanks are so wierd, like terrified of a joint national healthcare system and roundabouts

@@samsschool3639 am French... Y a know, oui oui baguettes / omelette du fromage / one of the best healthcare / roundabouts EVERY FUCKING WHERE lol

My local council have replaced a small roundabout with a 4 way set of traffic lights. I had literally never seen a jam there in 40 years. Now every peak time it's a total mess and as an added bonus the road is now so narrow the lights and signs are damaged by the large buses that use it.

Either people learnt to use roundabout, or people avoid the roundabout making traffic went away. (JK, I love roundabouts.)

"I can compare a particular four way stop to a roundabout that was installed in 2019. When there were stop signs, there were up to 20 cars backed up at on one leg at peak hours, and now there are none thanks to the round about. I have noticed that the aggressive verses the defensive drivers still can't go with the flow. We need more roundabouts so people can get the knack of how to use them properly." This 👆😄 - An open minded American. What a rare breed 😅😝

Agreed!

That's me plowing through England. "Cheerio Chaps!" *Dixie plays on oversized horns* "Yeehaw!"

In the US they're called traffic calming circles

I felt the same, it is easy to adapt to drive to the diferent side of the road, but in roundabouts i am used to lock to my left driving in the right side, but driving in the left, like in UK, Malta, etc, we need to lock for our right aproaching a roundabout, which goes against the muscle memorie

What diameter do a semi need?

Not only. Come here in France you ll for sure slow down in roundabouts

So not the us basicly

I think you mean 4-way stop because I have seen many accidents on a 4-way stop intersections than round abouts because some people are dumb enough to ignore traffic lights.

Neither do traffic lights

Small roundabouts are hazardous? Sus

I hate when that happens. How can someone get that confused about an all way stop? Stop first, go first. Can't get much simpler than that.

If roundabout are both more efficcient AND safer, I'd say they're worth the cost

@@My0ldFr13nd depends. Not always you have money for a roundabout. Sometimes there are more important things to fund. There are also situations when an intersection is not important enough to spend money on a roundabout there or there are other intersections that are more important.

Have fun managing and paying for the traffic lights at a 4 way stop.

@@GoldenTV3 four-way stop doesn't require any traffic lights.

Not if you choose to make them with smaller radius. That is up to the planners. What uses space is all the single uccupant cars driving and parking all over the place. Create alternatives, like good and unexpensive public transit and good and safe bicycling infrastructure, paired with reduced parking capasaty and raised parking prices, and you will see that car traffic will drop, for everybody's benefit.

I would say it's because the argument over which is safer seems to be mostly discussed between them. The UK and the US have a long history of friendly banter about the differences between them and which way is right while the differences between the US and the countries of Europe are just accepted.

Its always has been UK vs US. Be it English, driving side, etc.

The era of modern roundabouts began in the United Kingdom in 1956 with the construction of the first "yield-at-entry" roundabouts.

Yes there have 4 way stop in Petone wellington

@@alexrobinson2103 I stand corrected. And that sucks! Unlucky

@@kid21ish because so narrow street harder to build roundabout

@@alexrobinson2103 why don't they just take out two stop signs and replace the other two stop signs with give way signs?

@@kid21ish I thought same. Can look up Google map (Near 45-61 Nelson Street, Petone, Lower Hutt 5012, New Zealand) better use satellite map

Roundabouts are better and it reduces the wait time its pretty much easy to follow, you just give way to the oncoming vehicle and when safe you enter 1st 2nd or 3rd exist

If there is little traffic the roundabout is better but both intersections can do the job just fine, roundabouts takr more space at the intersection itself but the roads leading up to it are a lot smaller since you just need 2 or 4 lanes.

@@Lunavii_Cellest But it doesn't have to take up space, some roundabouts just have a painted circle or a small island

Roundabouts take up more space at the intersection but unlike with busy 4-way intersections you don't need dedicated turning lanes and additional queueing lanes for 500 feet back

Not really since traffic lights work better in quite a lot of cases,

@@Lunavii_Cellest Eh, the studies kinda disagree on that one... But roundabouts can be impractical in certain environments due to their space requirements, so even here in Denmark where we do use roundabouts a lot, you will still see many 4-way crossings. Especially in urban areas. Traffic lights can also be safer for pedestrians especially if the general traffic culture (like it is here in Denmark, unfortunately) tends to favour a behaviour where you need to be explicitly shown you have to stop at a zebra crossing. Yeah, it's crazy but there's a reason why we rarely use 4-way crossings which don't have traffic lights lol.

@@Lunavii_Cellest roundabouts can handle 6 sometimes 7 exits without any more hassle than a standard 4 way, handy in areas where roads and other infrastructure are long established. Doing that with lights or other ideas is usually very messy.

@@johnmg88 if you have alot of traffic roundabouts arren't the best option, if you have traffic but not alot than roundabout are a good option.

@@johnmg88 nvm i read it as 4 way interchange, not as 4 way stop

In the US some roads are never wide enough and the drivers are notorious for not being able to navigate a 4-way intersection safely. The wider the intersection and higher the speed limit, the more fatal accidents like head-on collisions and T-bone car wrecks. But with roundabouts you have fender-benders and "near misses" instead. And in Massachusetts we have had roundabouts since forever, only we call them rotaries and they work like a charm, even on narrow roads so long as drivers obey the yield/give way signs.

@@edwardmiessner6502 one of the issiues is not the intersection but the people who are driving, some don't even look at the road, or where i'm at going home at 11pm i seen some just drive 70mph through a red stop light, didn't even slow down at all..

If you go for more than half the circle, go in the inside, else, or if you're scared/confused, stay on the outside lane

@@thomas_arvl Thanks for replying.

@@thomas_arvl A simpler answer: Left lane go left, right lane go right. Inside lane go straight. (That means for Right hand side traffic, left lane, or middle lane if any)

@@thomas_arvl Never stay in the outside lane, just learn to drive, one of the best things in multilane roundabouts is if every driver only goes to the outside lane just before his exit, they leave the entry point open to the flow of the trafic, would be almost any stops, in some roudabouts in Nederland there is separation rail beween the lanes, that prevents the driver on the outside lane to keep in the roundabout, that is a good system

@@ShakaZoulou77 if you want to turn for more than half of the roundabout, you go in the inside and wait for your exit to be the next, then you can go in the outside lane to take your exit. Else just stay on the outside. I'm currently learning to drive in France ( where there is the most roundabout :P ) and that's what my teacher told me!

only if you know which lane you should be and where you are going then you are safe. I understand there will be some idiots who don't know which lanes they should stick to so better watch out for them.

If they're designed like a UK spiral roundabout or a Netherlands turbo roundabout you pick your lane upon entering and you won't need to worry about changing lanes inside the roundabout

Cause of the people that live there probably.

@@kob3426 Not necessarily. UK did that too. Unbalanced traffic stop people from entering the roundabout. Imagine a main road full of traffic and every body go straight. They will take up the one side of the roundabout's 100% capacity, and on that side, no one can enter the roundabout. So traffic light some times is installed to stop the dominating traffic flow.

To much traffic on one side of the roundabout probably. They do work wonders on smaller town roads though.

Generally bad design. In Pittsburgh we have a "Traffic Circle" that included an underpass for through traffic but then added six roads leading to the circle (and two railroads). This was the only gap in what is called Mount Washington along the Mongahelia and Ohio rivers. Saw mill run (a creek) cut the gap but then you had the road going along the river, a road going up Mount Washington, a Road going of the West End of Pittsburgh, another road going west to Stuebenville Ohio AND the West End Bridge crossing the Ohio River. Above that mess you have one railroad that is still active and then you had another railroad going around the Circle to connect to a third railroad that runs along the River (There are plans to make this one a rails to trails for it actually takes up the least room in that area). That was that intersection pre 1930s, when it was decided to expand Saw Mill Run Boulivard along Saw Mill Run and join it was a seventh road going into that circle. Yes it is a mess. If you ignore the river road that goes under the Circle, you still have six roads going into the circle PLUS two ramps from the River road into the circle. After 2000 the state decided to "Improve" it by cutting a road through the circle from Saw Mill Run Boulevard to the West End Bridge adding two more sets of lights. What is needed is a proper round about above or below the present circle (Which means adding a railroad crossing to the Round about), keeping the present through road along the Ohio River and making the West End Bridge to Saw Mill run Boulevard another through road and leaving every other road use the new Roundabout to get to the road they need. It will be expensive and thus I suspect it will never be done but that is do to a bad design that people have tried to "Fix" since the 1920s when it was built. South of Pittsburgh along PA Route 51 is the "51 Cloverleaf" another bad design from the 1920s. Cloverleafs were the rage in the 1920s so when it was decided to connect PA 51 (a four lane highway, but NOT limited access) to another Four Lane highway to the then new County Airport. If the County had just made a Cloverleaf, it would still be a good intersection, but instead they added three other roads into the intersection, each governed by a Redlight that ties up traffic on that Cloverleaf. It is another example of a bad design that no one wants to fix for it would be expensive, mostly to cut out the three roads added to the Cloverleaf but NOT part of the Cloverleaf. Most times when you read about Redlights at Round abouts, old fashion traffic circle or cloverleafs it is a product of bad design, but a design that will cost a lot of money to fix (including buying expensive land around the intersections where a lot of businesses exist for they want the traffic off that intersection). Round abouts were invented once it was determined why Traffic Circle were bad (and by the Courts ruling that you have to yield to cars to your left a ruling not made by any State court till 1930 and the invention of the adoption of the Yield sign in the late 1950s). Between those two changes in traffic rules, the modern roundabout is possible, without them, you have all of the problems of the old Traffic Circles.

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@@SystemParanoia EU rules are the same as UK rules! I live in Belgium, I have driven in The Netherlands, Germany, France, Italy, the UK and Greece. Besides the fact you drive on the other side of the road, like in the US, you yield to the traffic ON the roundabout.

@@SystemParanoia That was the rule in the US pre 1930, when the State Courts started to rule you must yield to traffic to your left. i.e. in the Round about. Notice this was a rule made by the COURTS of the US NOT the state legislatures and one of the reason it is rarely mentioned in Traffice codes. Please note you yield to traffic to your left in the US for drivers ride on the left side of the car and thus have a better view of what is to their left AND able to use arm signals to tell someone to your left to go ahead. Another Judge made traffic rule that is NOT enforced is you are suppose to drive with the driver's window DOWN so you can use hand signals in addition to any mechnical turn signals. You almost NEVER see that driver's window down, the last one I remember seeing is the last Scene in Blazing Saddles, where the "Heros" get off their horses and into the back seat of a Limo and ride into the Sunset with the Driver's window DOWN (While the read windows are UP).

And Norway even lower rate than Sweden.

US city traffic comes to a grinding halt on it's own. The elephant in the room is the lack of will to move away from the car centric state the US is in.

The town I'm in has added at least 6 in the last few years, so I guess it depends on your attitude and the part of the country you're from. What do you think of wearing a mask to protect others? There are some people who still think they will have to live in a cave soon.

right side of the road* less than a third of earth drive in the left side.

You're still crossing two roads; it's the same distance.

In civilized countries, where roundabouts are the norm, they are utterly unproblematic

@@navnnavn1226 But people in US don't know what to do with the steering wheel because they only have straight roads.

That's why there are yield signs at every entrance to the roundabout.

@@johntracy72 yeild signs that might as well be STOP signs, because you still have to stop to make sure its safe to proceed into the swirling vortex of death. Think about it, youre STILL having to stop, so whats the point??

@@steverobertson1729 i’m getting capitalist vibes from you lol

You mean roundabouts for trains?