bull f-ing shit they are likle anyone else, they will protect their country. They aren't warriors they are doing a duty.

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Canadians are the same way. And, apparently, which nobody saw coming, the Ukrainians. The US military has too many hot-heads who fly off the handle at the drop of a hat. I feel safe saying this as an American with several friends who are combat veterans

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Tackar och bockar från Finland

And we used to be one country for 600 Years or so.

Am Finnish and we have always thought our Swedish brothers that we are the ones that lacks behind. 😂

Norway has money and fuel. Sweden has technology and factories. Finland has arms and will to use them. As long as we are friends fennoscandia will not fall.

Well said; exactly my words too.

That 280,000 wartime strength is included in the total reserve of c. 870,000 (rank and file reservists up to 50 years of age and NCO and officer reservists up to 60). Those other reservists ouside of the 280,000 are used for replacing the losses and possibly for forming new units. Of course some of those other reservists are in reality unfit for service, but nevertheless represent a massive pool of already trained soldiers. And if the "thing" really hit the fan, there is an "additional reserve" of military trained men over the age limits of the actual reserve: c. 200,000 50-60 years old and c. 300,000 60-70. Many of them can still shoot well.

That is true but we do not have the capability to keep our artillery stocked with ammo for more than 2-4 months at most, could even be as little as a couple of weeks. After that, we would need ammo support from other countries and due to us now being in NATO it would be pretty simple. But us having a large artillery doesn't necessarily mean we can keep on shelling forever, just like Ukraine, we would need assistance with ammo.

@@Pepzi987We have ammunition production in Finland, so it is not easy to estimate the amount of time the artillery could be supplied. At the end of the day it would likely depend on raw materials. The information is classified, so it was never discussed even when I was a conscript in the coast artillery. I am rather sure we speak about more than 4 months, though.

@@Pepzi987 That is easy to multiply in our own production. There are many machine shops which can produce ordnance for defence force when needed.

Well said, military service is still mandatory for all men and voluntary for women. My father, me and my son have all been in the army and we are just ordinary Finnish people.

It is better to be samurai in the garden than garden at war

Universal conscript system means that almost all men are not civilians but reservists.

Yeps, sitting on a bunker at the moment. My godmother is still in the civil defence force and required to pick up her pots and pans and report to a military base to cook for the troops at 70 years of age (she has a catering business). My brother in law is a commander in the military police and he goes through training every few years what is the most efficient way to confiscate civilian equipment for the military. Not that many large 4x SUVs in Finland despite the terrain, because almost every man in Finland know their 'humwees' will be confiscated by the military. My sister is at a week-long military preparedness course at the moment (that has been going on since 20 years in the company) in order to be understand the legal framework in case of martial law (she's the Senior Accountant in an IT software company).

I'm 6th gen Jäger in my family. Straight down from first 2000 who went to Germany. 🇫🇮✌️

Now all of us in NATO

Indeed. Finland and Sweden applied to NATO at the same time. But Turkey and Hungary stalled for Sweden (geopolitics). So the Baltic is Now a NATO innersee. Basically making a culdesac for both Kalingrad and St. Petersburg.

Imagine if i.e., brits would adopt the "total defence" concept that Finland has developed. That would make the island of Britain a real fortress.

Well, like we have a choice. Its not army, its defending forces...

Thanks love. Little tip with Finns. If you hear any of these words or combo it's time roll. Vittu, Saatana, Perkele....

@@JohnDoe-hs7ml good to know. I was only taught a song in Finnish.

@@jenniferfox6300 ukposts.info/have/v-deo/smeQpIypgKmZ2XU.html

@@jenniferfox6300 which song if I may ask?

@@JohnDoe-hs7ml it was numbers! It was like 25 years ago now.

Milloin venäjä hyökkää uudestaan

@@Niilo2.2 Ei tiiä, ne on ottanu rajan läheisiä armeijan tukikohtia käyttöön uudestaan pitkin 2000-lukua. Mutta nyt Suomi on NATO maa, jolloi sota Suomea vastaan merkitsee sotaa kaikkia liittolaisia vastaan. Suomen armeijalla on tällä herkellä käynnissä useampia raskaiden aseiden ampuma harjoituksia (santa haminasta rovajärvelle asti), niin kyllä ne vaan johonkin valmistautuu.

​​@@Obi_The_Guardse ei merkitse mitään kun paperilla. mutta olet luultavasti liian nuori tai liian tyhmän uskovainen. kyllä sä raukka ymmärrät mitä sota tulee tarkoittaa, kun venäjä pystyy ilman minkäänlaisia ongelmia pommittaa koko meidän infrastruktuuri paskaks viikossa.

Thank's m8 .... I recon all we Finns appreciate that. We all nordic ppl are a part of the same family.

Fins also kick vikings ass backinthedays🌚

And RK62 and RK62-M1 (which has that telescopic stock)

@@milo20060 👍

Also I think It is already confirmed that RK:s will be replaced with some AR variants made by Sako in the future. As far as i know, caliber is not decided yet (=not known to public) but it will be 5,56×45 mm NATO or 7,62×51 mm NATO.

…there is a reason to use that modified model; works in every condition

would say its overly heavy and basicly crappy gun to be issued with. It is ok in sense that it works but it brings nothing new to table what so ever. While it can theoretically shoot rifle grenades its useless option since we dont have any of those. I would pick RK62 any fucking day over that junk. Provided that it is in ok condition and not shot so much that it became shotgun since i have seen those too. Basicly we need something lighter and something that I can attach underbarrel launcher for bloobs or perhaps we should invest tiny amount of money to rifle grenades...... How ever I am not all that confident that NATO can defend any of its allies at this point. UK has no army to speak of and France has some level of military capabilities but thats not very much. USA is not interested and will leave alliance very soon anyway. Sweden has few fighter planes and fairly ok Navy but no troops what so ever. Denmark gave away all its weapons for ukraine norway has very few troops to spare and Spain, Italy, Greece, Benelux, Portugal are not going to send anything to anyones help. Germany is big pile of crap and has no weapons no troops and no want to do anything in any situation. Estonia and Latvia and Lithuania are on frontline and tiny and incapable to do anything, Poland might be able to send something and might be willing to and is certainly capable to. But Poland and France and few Swedes cant do shit alone.

All of Scandinavia has conscription. Finland isn't part of Scandinavia but IS a part of the Nordic countries.

@@eidodk The Nordic countries: Sweden abolished conscription in 2009 and after a gap of 8 years it was reinstated in 2017. Norway has conscription, but it is quite selective. The Norwegian Armed Forces only train around 10,000 conscripts each year. In Denmark, military service is compulsory for men (and soon also for women), but it is practically voluntary. Only 20 percent of the male age group does military service(now 4 months but planning to double), and almost all of them are volunteers. Iceland does not have its own army and therefore no conscription.

@@jorluoSweden never "abolished" conscription. It was temporarily deactivated to be reinstated later. Had it been abolished, it would have been a law change. Law changes don't happen willy-nilly. Iceland - not having an own army, doesn't count.

@@eidodk Sorry for the choice of words. Thank you for correcting. Anyway, the truth is that conscription in Sweden stopped for 8 years, as I said. And I included Iceland on the list because it is a Nordic country, even if it "doesn't count". In practice, selective conscription has also been in use in Sweden since the country reinstated conscription in 2017. About 6,000 - 7,000 conscripts per year at the moment I think. It is still nowhere near as large a part of the age group as in Finland, even though Sweden has twice as many people. In Finland 23,300 men were assigned to conscript service this year + more than 1,500 volunteer women have applied for military service. In Sweden, the strength of home security forces, equivalent to reservists, is only tens of thousands and I think the number of wartime forces in Sweden is around 65,000 (280,000 in Finland). At the moment though, Sweden aims to increase both the number of conscripts per year and the number of wartime troops. I read somewhere that the goal for wartime troops by 2030 is 90,000. Because of this "selective" conscription and more lenient legislation in other Nordic countries, avoiding conscription there is also much easier than in Finland. In Finland, a conscript who refuses to perform conscript or civilian service (= total objection) is sentenced to a maximum of 173 days of unconditional imprisonment. There have been only tens of them per year. Well, at least both of these good and close neighboring countries are now in NATO. All the best to you @eidodk. 👍

@@eidodk Bit too late to reactivate, when they already cross your borders?

Yeah around 280,000 active 900,000 reserves.

yeah i never went to army but im only pardoned for time of peace. i had medical conditions then i still have some of em BUT they will call me out teach me how to use rifle or do somethin if war was to happen here

@@santtumoilanen3065 Only after those 900k have gone to the meat grinder.

Me ei mennä lihamyllyyn vaan pyöritetään sitä.. Vissi ero.

Itseasiassa JOKAINEN SUOMALAINEN MIES ON KÄYNYT ARMEIJAN (ellei saa vapautusta kunnon TAI vastaavan asian takia VAIN RAUHAN AIKANA MAHDOLLISTA), Suomessa on noin 7 milj ihmistä = 2-3milj sotilasta reservissä...

The Finnish will have their rematch if Russia fucks with nato directly

Totta/true

Literally💀💀💀💀

Belaja Smert - Simo Häyhä 💪

@@jormakaarivainen wth IS belaja smert

Not much change so far. In 2022, 88% of males and 79% of females would defend the country within their capabilities, although the question did not specify "till death"...

That’s the right mindset 👏

Hold my Lonkero, rather. Finnish version of Tom Collins (gin & grapefruit soda), sold in cans and its on tap in most bars. Very popular, real name is Long Drink, but soon turned into Lonkero (means tentacle) in Finnish mouths, it came out with our Olympics in ‘52. Also called as concrete water, since it’s gray.

Hold my kossu

It is not that Sweden had any choice but to join after we decided to join, we made that decision for them 😊

@@duhni4551 oh, they had a choice and it did take some convincing from our part for them make the right decision

@@duhni4551 Even the Swedish msm news were making it evident that our political influence played a key role. Not just the necessity to follow our lead. We were adamant to enter together but that didn't go as planned due to certain two imbecilic autocrats in the Alliance

@@lumihanki5631 In all reality they didn't, well sure, if you think their government would have allowed Sweden to be left alone with their non existent defensive capabilities. Luckily Sweden did start growing their military few years back but is far cry from being effective as it should.

Soz m8 .... The Winter War was fought during yrs 1939-40. 105 days of GLORY ... and it was a total HUMILIATION of the " Sovjet Red Army". None of the "goals" Stalin set, was never achieved by militarily by the russkies. There wasn't "Red Army's Joyful march" to Helsinki, nor to Oulu. Nor there won't be ... in the future.

well we had some foreign help but unfortunately allied with germany and had our president in russian prison after war.

we got active soldiers 16k (special forces and staff) then we have privates 24k learning war time jobs (finland trains in one year 24k new soldiers) war time size is 280k and reserve is 900k (those 900k are people who is in good health and can serve in army) when they run out in war we have people who have exempted from peacetime duties.

4 999 999 with a sense of humor

Word. Gun permits and different voluntary defence services went up when Russia attacked Ukraine.

Finns Leonidas answer to Brits about soldiers.... 😅

@@SK-nw4ig Of cource 🙄 But the Finns were probably the least surpriced and definately the best prepared - BEFORE! You do know they have a past with Russia, Eh?

Still, they are AK variants like he said. Even the Galil is an AK variant, which is based heavily on the RK62 is stil an AK variant.

@@Xerdoz It's not like the AK-47 is the original concept either. It's based on Sturmgewehr 44.

@@jannekoskinen9074 Depends on what you're talking about. In the principle of medium range combat rifles with high-capacity magazine and selective fire, StG-44 was indeed the first operational weapon moving away from then traditional single fire combat rifles and carbines. But the designs of StG-44 and AK-47, the interiors of the weapons, bear little resemblance. AK is much simpler in design, thus has less moving parts and is less prone to jamming.

Permission to use, no permanent bases. There are a lot of them so that you don't always have to apply for a new permit.

Plus governments warehouses in secret locations storing fuel, medication and grain up to 8,5 months for all the people of Finland. Finland produces it's own energy and many of the food priducts: eggs, meat and grain at least. This is huge, and i am very proud of this prepping. It is kind of funny/ confusing to see people now around europe to talk about russia the way finns have always talked about russia. Conscript is here for a reason, and there has never ever been a discussion to end it. In fact the debate is wether it should be made mandatory for women aswell. The will to defend Finland is strong.

I dont think that you realais that is the old peoples thinkin. I dont think the young new finnish people are thinking the same enymore 2040 finnish born people will be minority in finland. Think about that

That is a different topic, and a problem in many levels.@@greenoinas1637

​@@greenoinas1637bs. My friends from immigrant families are all finnish, men go to do their service. Your kind of people are the biggesr threat.

Conscripting women is foolish. Physical and psychological needs of war aside, endangering the population that is critical in the birth of the next generation is suicidal. That is the reason why amazons exist in just myths. The tribes that armed women were eventually wipes out.

You are supporting slavery.

I think he missed the "winter" part of the winter war...

Galil is based on the RK 62. And in the coming years, the RK family will most likely be replaced from what we've seen of some procurement contracts. Most likely by something from the same Sako rifle family where the new sniper rifle and DMRs are coming from. So moving to an AR-15 based rifle chambered in 7.62 NATO.

Fake news=bullshit. We're trainig with US troops and did that already before joining NATO, but there will no US base. We have agreed that they can store some stuff in our premises.

Yes but they going to but it in wrong place. They should put it in Viipuri (Vyborg)

@@Ghettorepolainen Don't pretend to be a Finn when every Finn knows the DCA included 15 US bases in Finland 😂I know it is a lot of coping for you Ivan's but at least try to do your homework, these poor attempts only make you look even more sad than you are 😂

​@@duhni4551lmfao. their bots are the same as their soldiers, when confronted they flee with tail between their legs.

Where have you heard such info from? All I've heard is that Americans can use Finnish military bases, not that there will be new base(s) for them

And Königsberg

Joke here in Finland goes like this: What Sweden has but Finland doesn't? Good neighbours.

@@jaketzi8816 and one older one: The brave Swedish kings would fight until the last Finn.

In reality Putin totally failed to understand that threatening Finland would not prevent Finland from joining NATO, but make it happen faster.

How typical. 4 out of 5 times, a German, Austrian or Italian comment i see online praises Putin for a non-existent virtue his trolls have been advertising.

@@wardensisland1478 I don’t understand your comment - unfortunately my english is quite bad - I never praised Putin for sure or I misunderstood something?

@@p.f.5718 Putin is not an excellent analyst, he totally miscalculated the reaction of Finland and Sweden and lost all power in the region of the Baltic Sea. Putin has zero understanding of the European mindset. He is fairly stupid, and a war criminal.

Don't put Canada out of the ability to do wonderful or some might say horrible things! The world wars taught us that.

right now its america with the gop being owned by putin and mullions of trump cultists. that country is Insane......

I'm just going to ignore this as it's obviously trolling. No one who has looked at Canada's war records (or snipers) would say that seriously. On a serious note I'd argue for Turkey. They've got the second biggest military in NATO after the US and have been an ally of the West since WW2, but they're also a major trading partner of Russia and are trying to maintain neutrality in the war with Ukraine. That's not a problem in theory, but if things go hot between NATO and Russia it's a risk.

While they haven't spent as much the past few decades, you still do not want to piss off our weird hat. Those fuckers are crazy and feed on war crimes.😅

I hope we grow military technology because I think we have knowhow and it would be good for our GDP...

Given that past Gripen, all Nordic weapon systems are expensive AF, i highly doubt it. They are state of the art systems, even Finnish AMV's were too expensive for USA, South-Africa, Poland and so on. Gives you some idea. Though all mentioned nations based their, back then, new AMV's on Patria platform, they just ordered simpler / cheaper versions of them. Poland was smart and bought licenses to use it as platform to design their own version of it.

Yeah Russia really has a strategic headache now. They need to seriously fortify the border to Finland, or they will be screwed if, more like when, war breaks out