Fully agree !!

日本人ですがこれは立派なカウンターでスコアが認められるべきです。 なぜなら斎藤の引き手は不十分なまま大内刈をかけていますが、リネールの引き手は充分でリネールが有利な体制でありました。リネールは確実に斎藤をコントロールして背中をつけています。 しかしリネールの積極的な技を見たいのは共感できます。

Bc he is always being favored by the refs

The hate comes from people like this channel’s owner that have zero judo experience at the highest level. Other than that, Teddy and his legacy are widely respected.

His judo is entirely based on being way taller and longer than the opponent. It forces his opponents to approach very carefully and attack prematurely when they do get in. His body warps the entire shape of the match and usually results in low quality matches, often ending in hansokumake due to passivity. Anyone who hears about this legendary superchampion, undefeated for 10 years, winningest judoka of all time, etc etc, is guaranteed to be disappointed when they watch him fight. Compare to other legendary judoka - could you say the same thing about Ono or Nomura? I don't hold it against Teddy personally - as a competitor, it's his job to fight to win, and it's not like he chose to be born a giant. But you can have respect for Riner and his accomplishments and still recognize that his judo kind of sucks.

@@LeightonsLibrary This is simply wrong. If judo was all about height and reach, people would have it figured it out since a long time and we would only see lanky (and just tall for the heavyweights) athletes on the podium. I think there is a bias against Riner because: i) he has a strong claim to the judo GOAT status and is not Japanese; ii) there is attrition watching him dominate his weight category for so many years (novelty is exciting). If Saito ever dominates the heavyweight category, are people going to undermine his success by mentioning his weight over his opponents? You have Riner highlights videos full of beautiful throws (even on this channel), so I don't know how you could say that his judo is disappointing to watch. In the last couple of years he has certainly been more conservative in his judo, but you have to take into account his age (Ono retired at 31 whereas Riner is 34 and still going) and the fact that he is undoubtedly the most studied judoka in his weight category, so his opponents and their staff have had time to adapt and design strategies aiming at countering him. In the world of ignorant opinions, I guess one can state that Riner's judo "kind of sucks". Thankfully, this opinion is nonexistent in the competitive circuit where Riner is held in high esteem. Without stellar judo/technical skills you simply don't make it at that level.

@fortuna9074 You don't see it in other weight classes because other weight classes have weight limits. 100+ does not. Some athletes HAVE made careers out of being absurdly tall/long for their class (Bilodid is the prime example), but it's difficult to maintain the strength for good judo if you're cutting to skeleton weight. Heavyweights do not have this problem. This is not complicated, nor is it unique to judo. I don't dispute that Riner is athletically and technically talented, but use your eyes, man. He's 6'8". He's routinely a full head taller than his opponents. That is an enormous advantage. Have you ever fought against someone that much taller than you before? The gripping is absolutely miserable. Riner's attacking range for both gripping and throwing is practically double that of his opponents'. The opponent has to navigate a minefield just to get in on his hips, and Riner is happy to rack shidos up on the opponent and counter his opponent's desperate attacks. I don't blame Riner for using his reach in this way; he's an athlete, and an athlete's job is to maximize his chances of winning. But it sucks, and it's sucked for a long time. Yes, Riner is 34, but this has been his game for his entire career, and people are tired of it. The hate for Riner has nothing to do with his race or nationality. It has nothing to do with him personally - he seems like a stand up guy and a great role model. But watching him fight is miserable. He has a very negative style of judo.

I don't see being defensive as being clever... riner would be way more cleverer by leveraging on his physical superiority in ne waza... and no one loops on riner youtube video again and again because he is impressed by his judo style... look at Last antalya performance of nagase and murao and you will understand what makes teddy's style quite boring...

@@christianmichon1940it’s not I like Riner‘s style of fighting but he is undeniably successful with it. He never gets three Shidos even though he is very defensive and he just avoids being thrown very well. It think there is no denying that he fights in a clever way. Do I like that, no absolutely not, but I just have to accept it.

Saito is much heavier than Riner, so he could definitely lift him with uchimata.

@@fortuna9074 i can bet you saito weighs less than 140 kilos

@@barba5209 Why would you bet on something that you can check online? You're wrong, Saito weighs close to 165 kg.

@@fortuna9074 fine you win🫡

@@fortuna9074yeah and in no way or shape is he going to be able to perform an uchi mata as the shorter judoka against perma high grip Riner who weighs 140kg. Judo removed leg grabs and many other attacks which favored the shorter judoka.

IJF is too busy being a clown. Removing techniques which shouldn’t be removed, implementing degenerate rulings and many more things.

Teddy Riner the world champion in Shido Wazza

You're cherry-picking the boring fights. In the same Grand Slam, Riner had beautiful throws + ne waza. The reality is that the heavyweight category has always been less sexy in terms of flashiness/airtime than lighter ones. As for shidos, Riner's opponents often avoid fighting and use extremely defensive judo whenever Riner takes a dominant grip... So you're blaming Riner for winning by shidos when I actually think that it's the only fair outcome when one of the competitors is solely focused on avoiding being thrown.

Amen

When did Riner complain about it? Aren’t you making stuff up just to bash him?

Yeah I got that impression. It was “if I don’t take you seriously for the Olympics I’m gonna lose this one”. He really needs to game plan hard for Saito

@@JudoHighlights2015 Riner explained in an interview on TV5 monde that he was tired and lacked desire to compete at Antalya because of his training for the Olympics. You can see that he doesn't even celebrate his gold medal. He also said that he didn't want to show what he was working on to Saito which made the fight more difficult because he didn't go full on.

They originally didn’t score it and then reverted the decision. The whole Tasoev Riner final was the center of it. I probably have a video on it

Correct. IJF ruined judo for shorter fighters when they removed all these things. Instead they favor the tall fighters with their perma overhand grip which disables the shorter fighter from standing upright, causing penalties

@@dominus6224 Look at the podiums in most categories. The winner is seldom the tallest. In that same competition, Fonseca won in -100kg and the other medallists were all one head taller than him. Ono, Abe, Maruyama and Nagayama are below the average heights in their respective categories. If what you say were true, we would only see tall thin judokas at high level, which is clearly not the case. From a physics viewpoint, being short is actually an advantage in projection sports since you have a lower gravity center. I agree with the fact that removing leg grabs reduces a big risk factor for tall fighters, but it does not make them more dominant.

@@pierre2693 regardless of the taller opponent winning or not, it still doesn’t change the fact that it FAVORS the taller person.

Bit of a stretch to say that when there was nothing even close to a score shown. He was more active, yes, but that is all.

​@@samil5601 thats what I mean really. He was just being more aggressive and Teddy was being very stiff.

Dude I’ve trained with Saito. He’s a physical specimen. He’s like 140kgs and sprints faster than me. I’ve never seen a fat man run so fast. He also has stamina for days. I agree he looks a little funny, I just think he needs tighter pants lol

The IJF doesn’t like to give third shido to anyone because it doesn’t look good for the sport, it’s not some sort of special favor to Riner alone.

The fact that Judo Highlights liked this comment shows why he isn’t a serious commentator. He should be considered for what he is: an amateur with zero high level judo experience giving his opinion on the highest level of judo.

@@fortuna9074or its just you

@@fortuna9074you can tell he’s biased towards the japanese judokas

​@@fortuna9074 People have their favorites and ti's their right to have these. Teddy Riner deserves all the credits that he has as one of the most successful judoka's in the international circuit. However a lot of people ( inc. me ) consider his style to be unattractive. Because of his physique he is able to completely dominate / control a lot of his opponents. This has made him one of the best as far as awards are concerned. But from a spectator point of view I'd rather watch someone else.

​@@fortuna9074Pretty much this. Still really hilarious to see the boy constantly pretending to be impartial "look guys, I got nothing against Riner but... " as though trying to buy his voice some credibility to his claims. At least own your shit.