Man who would’ve thought 10 years ago we’d be watching a head to head… of flip phones

I actually kind of like Samsung's approach of releasing a lot of different types and then refining what people prefer.

Meanwhile, apple sells the same phone every year.

As ridiculous as the Fold may seem to some, I'm glad to see other phone manufacturers other than Apple doing the trend-setting. I got the Fold 5 recently, and have been loving it. They're really blurring the line between phones and small form factor tablets. Skipping multiple generations after I got my S10 was definitely worth it.

I think they might be preserving form factor to make it easier for front-end programmers to develop optimized apps for the foldable, since it is a very niche display config

Always a vibe to watch MKBHD talk about Tech when I'm not buying anything

Got my Z5 Fold yesterday, been a Galaxy user since Galaxy 2 and the transition from a traditional smartphone formfactor to this is like the coolest thing ever when it comes to gadgets!

I personally really like how narrow the front screen is. It's perfect for one handed texting and typing, or looking at things that are meant to be tall, skinny, long, extra wide, etc. If you want to watch content open the phone up, that's what the screen is for. There's no reason to have a phone that has an outside and inside screen that are extremely similar with almost idential aspect ratios, they should be different so it serves more purposes. Also there were a few big internal upgrades not mentioned here - LPDDR5 upgraded to LPDDR5X, UFS 3.1 upgraded to UFS 4.0, Bluetooth 5.2 upgraded to 5.3, Qualcomm X70 chip with faster 5G (par of Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 upgrade), and the hinge changed the dimensions to be 15% smaller when folded, definitely not "the same dimensions" and deserved more than a quick 2 second mention.

It means that you do not need to update your phone every year; but for new buyers or people who were planning to buy these phones, it's still a good option especially with an increased base storage.

As someone who was rocking the fold 3. This does look and feel like a significant improvement. It’s subtle shades of grey between generations, but it is getting better year on year.

I had the Z Flip 5 for a week, really liked it and couldn't find any faults. The small screen was a good novelty but you could only use a small number of apps on it as well as the widgets mentioned in the video. I would've liked the calculator to be one of those pre-integrated widgets though, or at least one of the supported apps. I only sent the Flip back so I could swap it for the Fold. I'd highly recommend both.

My first nice/proper phone was the Motorola V something flip phone. Man was that a beast! It had a web browser and 3D games. I still have it in my drawer and it still works. Only things I changed were the batteries (back then they were removable). If the pricing was right, I would definitely get myself the Samsung Flip. I already own a Tab S and Note 10.

Honestly the Galaxy Mega brings back so many memories, I remember how shocked people were at its massive size, asking who would want a phone so big? And look at us now. One thing I’ll give to Samsung they are willing to take risks. And many of them have been fun and interesting and had great potential if they kept refining them. Hope tech gets fun and interesting again for the average person soon.

Samsung is literally every single huge company right now. They settle for what's safe and we depend on small companies to bring us something fun and then the big dogs take the idea and combine it with endless money to make a new version of it.

Very helpful. Thank you! Thanks for being quick & informational

Was playing around with these in the mall yesterday. They have a new case for the pen that is flat and has a sliding lock to pop it in and out. Was pretty cool and wasn't too hefty feeling.

I needed 3 significant upgrades from the fold4 to make this my next phone, and seeing only the hinge upgrade implemented means I am happy to wait another year. Let's see some battery/camera/stylus upgrades Samsung!

I think the bigger outside screen is the most important improvement for a flip phone and one that was definitely needed for the flip 5 to stay relevant, but I'd have loved to see the fold 5's outer screen change to a more normal aspect ratio. That is imo pretty important for the usability of its outer display

I bought the fold 4, it was an amazing bit of tech but so impractical for my use. I just ended up using the tiny front screen the most, but couldn’t get over how terrible the cameras were compared to my note 20 Ultra (2 Years old when the fold 4 came out) I think as the price is so much more than an ultra, they need to increase the fold screens size and bring it up to ultra camera quality and I would be interested again. Of course, Samsung wont so this any time soon as they will keep it separate product lines, but hence why i see the fold as impractical at the moment. Much MUCH happier with my s23 Ultra ;-)

I love watching your videos on new tech, totally my go to channel, Keep up the great work!

I wonder if Samsung is holding out in anticipation for a strong competitor. Then they'll start releasing amazing updates like a better battery, better camera, and an S-Pen slot on the phone..

I’ve always used iPhones but really like how the zflip looks. I might even get a zflip in a few years when looking to upgrade, but my main problem is the cameras. Compared to their S line of phones it’s really lacking. I would personally love to see a flip phone with the cameras of their latest S phones.

Just preordered the mint flip 5 using the trade-in offer for my flip4. the thing that made me want to upgrade was the reported extra hour of battery life over the flip 4 and improved hinge design. i never cared about the phone not folding flat, but this new hinge is supposed to have less moving parts and should be more durable.

The first big phone I ever owned was the Dell Streak 5 which was huge for its time. I believe it released around 2010. It had a 5” screen.

I had the galaxy mega right when it came out. Man, playing asphalt on such a big screen was AMAZINNG. I got a free galaxy tab 3 with the deal through at&t and I felt stupid for even having it because it wasn't much bigger than my phone. Not to mention, I got the experimental mega- which had more ram than the standard one.

The fold phones have always been so unique and fun to look at, but I'll stick to my note phones. The Galaxy S23 ultra is just such a great phone. No reason to upgrade or change for many years

The tech looks great now. When this stuff was proposed I was extremely worried they would be a disaster. I am interested it the full fold one. My current device is still working like new, but I will keep an eye on these Samsung folders for future.

I love my fold 4 and won't be getting a new phone any time soon but it's nice to see the screen get much brighter. Sometimes it feels like no matter what brightness it's on the screen feels dim. If the pixel fold gets better I'm jumping there though. That shape seems more for me

My daily for the last 10mo is a fold 4 and, personally, the narrow aspect ratio of the cover screen is one of my favorite aspects (lol) of the phone. It makes it much more... Grabbable? Idk how else to explain it, but it makes it much more comfortable to quickly perform basic tasks and for everything else i just pop open the inside screen. Totally cool with them sticking with it as a differentiator from pixel/others, though i doubt they will long-term.

Im using the flip4 now and I love it. I dont think I will ever go back to non foldable phones. Yes its more narrow and longer but I like that. Its easier to hold. I dont notice the crease at all. You mostly touch the bottom of the screen anyhow. Even though the changes on the flip5 are minor I really like the way it looks. That hinge is impressive! And I love that the screen on the outside got bigger. I actually prefer it over the motorolla one where it 'covers' de cameras.

With the little upgrades this year id still like the fold 5 it looks so refined and fresh looking compared to previous generations but the flip 5 caught me a lot i love the new cover display a lot more than the motorola razr ultra if the flip 5 gets significant upgrades surely samsung couldve upgraded their z fold but i think next year would be the year for the z fold mega upgrade

Wow I was looking for such a video about Samsung Z fold 5....... Thank you so much for this information 🙏🙏

I actually like the size of the fold as is. It’s easier to manage with one hand and easier to read long messages on.

Seriously wasn't expecting these videos to come out WHILE the Unpacked stream was still airing, let alone this early in the morning but I guess to be expected. Also, I really hope that, now that the Z Flip has a more usable cover screen, it allows you to use it the same way many would use the Motorola Razr phones, like watching movies and UKposts videos on it.

Just found your channel marcus and you are definitely getting me as a suscriber. other phone reviews are boring but your review show everything about the phone as well as using all parts of the phone and how it works.

very informative and you makes me decide to get these fold5 aside from my old fold3. Thanks

The foldable are a joy to use. They have a winning formula, they just need to refine what they have now, and they'll be some of the best devices ever made. Using the apps optimized for both screens was bliss. I know these phones will do well.

Carrying a Fold 4 since last year. The best thing about it is the novelty and amaze when you pull it out in public and in front of the people. The bigger screen has drastically reduced my laptop screen time. I write more mails, and type stuff more in general on the inner screen.

Man love your reviews

I love the z fold series but noticed a drawback on the built in screen protector. That it tends to bubble and crack down in the middle after usually 3 to 4 months of heavy use and has to be replaced and even when you spend 40 dollars to replace it with a new one it usually happens again within that time frame

Wouldnt mind seeing a review of the galaxy watch and the tablet as well. I really like that they bought back the physical rotating bezel on the watch, always thought that was a nice feature.

Speaking of specific app enhancements for the fold series- I've been playing a lot of minecraft on the fold. And I noticed a really cool effect thats produced by playing with the screen just slightly bent, and lining up the horizon with the crease. It gives the game a 3d aspect almost like a 3ds. Its not really possible to play like that though, because anytime you look around at all, the horizon no longer lines up with the crease. If Mojang would add in a "snap to horizon" setting in the game, so anytime your center of view got close enough to the horizon, it would snap to it, then this cool little quirk I found would become an awesome new feature.

always enjoy ur detailed review in simple not so hyped manner .. truely gr8 reviews always

I've had a fold4 since day one and I just pre-ordered a flip5. The fold is awesome and amazing for content consumption and multi tasking, but the compromises you have to make to carry a tablet sized foldable are just not worth it for me as of now. Still a huge fan though! Cant wait to see how foldables evolve. :)

Man I used to be so excited for new releases of phones and other stuff, especially from Samsung. I hope Samsung will try out new stuff like they used to. Also a triple fold would be sweet and it will also fix the aspect ratio issues on the front and the inner screen

Thanks for the great review 🎉

I agree with the passport size phone like the Blackberry Passport. I had that before and love the size of it. I hope they make a foldable passport size with an actual keyboard.

Quality of sound and video of this channel is probably best I’ve ever seen. I enjoy every video even on a 8k TV. Thank you . Your effort is appreciated

A review of the Tabs would be really nice. I think they improved so much even in app quality

As someone who jumped in on the Flip 4 last year, I immediately jumped on an pre-ordered the Flip 5. Especially with all of the discounts Samsung had going (not sure if they're still going on), I pretty much paid taxes to upgrade and added their buds for another $45 i think it was. No hesitation.

Im excited to get my fold in November. There's days I wished I had a tablet, but I'll never go out and buy a tablet I just don't have enough use for one. I think this will scratch the itch. Being able to multitask apps on two seperate screens at once is a huuuuge win for me too. Exactly what I need

their foldable software seems the best in the market which allows them to don't worry about the hardware as much. that being said, the squarer form-factor of their rivals appeals to me more. you'll still be using the phone closed a lot of the time.

The flip has a larger outer display than the phone I had 12 years ago, the Xperia mini pro. Blows my mind.

I love the tall slim design personally. It's almost reminiscent of our old Nokia phones in terms of feel in hand. I only open my fold for UKposts and movies. Really wish I had a stylus that I could use on inner AND outer display. I rocked with the Note line from the 4 to the 20.

I JUST ORDERED THE FLIP 5!!! Was waiting for your review!!!!!

The thing is that the taller aspect ratio on the fold is good for holding it. I love being able to reliably, dependably hold my fold in one hand while using it, because I never wear a case. Also, I just like opening it up if I feel cramped. That’s the point, right? Idk those are just my thoughts after using the fold 3 for the last few years.

At 5:06, are the "flips" and "folds" animations transposed?

Love to see short videos like this , plz make others also short❤

Love your reviews. Very informative. Thank you!

You should do a throwback video for the Kyocera Echo. While that phone was a brick, had bad battery life, and a very poor processor, I actually really enjoyed it overall, even with the seam between the screens. I carried an extra battery with me if I needed more battery life and swapped it out mid-day. Being able to queue up UKposts videos on one screen while watching videos on the other was a game-changer for my content watching. I wonder sometimes if the Echo's design would have given a better foldable sooner, but people didn't really pick up the phone at the time and Kyocera/Sprint's abundance of patents on the hinge tech probably kept it from ever being picked up in the market.

Something has indeed changed.

That was probably your best video ever. It was extremely interesting and extremely informative. Thank you for doing that

I knew I can always come to your channel to check the review. You always do a great jobs. Thanks bro.

I think it's fine to do incremental updates. I find it fascinating that Apple can keep the same form factor for years on in and everyone thinks that it's the best thing since sliced bread. When Samsung decides to make a change in its form factor it will come right on time and should have all the bugs worked out of it! Great work Samung keep it up!

Hey Marques! I think It's quite interesting that you had complaints about the hotdog style front display on the fold, but yeah the keyboard is difficult to work with to say the least. I find myself using those swipe gestures a lot more then I did on any other phone that supported it. Now, I wonder this: You say Samsung has 'settled,' and I do agree, do you think maybe we will see a new phone from Samsung next year? We saw some tech demos from Samsung in the folding department; rolling phones, tri-folds, and so much more! It makes me curious as to what is next, I feel like a unremarkable year from Samsung is usually telling of a hit next year. Although maybe I'm a bit misguided on that. I can't help but think that resources were spent elsewhere, solidifying the form factor of the two current folding phones in order to create a potential third?

100% AGREED. I checked it out it person and I'm still on The fold 3 due to lack of improvements on the fold 4 but the fold 5 feels really cheaply made and the edges are sharper even tho it is thinner and lighter. The metal bar across the back has a samsung logo that looks etched on by laser where as on my fold 3 it's actually engraved. Very sad don't think I'll upgrade. will be waiting on fold 6.

I've been COMMITTED to the note phones since I got the Note 4. I tried the Edge and was so upset I didn't get the Note after using it for a while. I believe the deal breaker was the stylus for me. I really want to try the Fold, but the phone not having a place to store the stylus is the only thing holding me back. Ugh, it would be perfect if they added that feature.

I actually really enjoy the narrow-nature of my fold4, it's great for what the cover screen is mostly (at least in my case) used for. And that could be reading an article, scrolling through discrod, occasionally sendting texts, and other such things. Typing on the cover screen is okay, but I can always just open to the main screen whenever I want and use that whenever something isn't great for the cover screen, like a video, a game, or typing longer strings of text. I originally had a fold3, and the different aspect ratios of the fold4 is the main reason I upgraded, it made it easier to use.

If it ain't broken why fix it. Apple has made a history of making small incremental changes year after year. Samsung is taking the same approach. I think they strongly believe in their design and are not going to allow the other folds change them. I would like to see the spen inside the unit next year and possibly a slightly larger front screen. As far as the cameras while we all love new hardware, maybe they should take a page from Apple and Google and just focus on post processing software etc.

I am glad that samsung has stopped making drastic changes from year to year, but settled on almost an elegant design on these phone and focused on the core and internal improvements. Galaxy S23 Ultra, Flip and Fold are all the same as last year with minor improvements. However, their main focus has been on software and OneUi and I can really feel the software improvement, stable OS and improved battery life on my S23 Ultra.

I know it isn't the most popular opinion but I have really grown to love the Taller more narrow cover screen of the Z Fold series, I have briefly used the Pixel Fold and it's design feels weird to me, the shorter more passport like design just feels awkward to me and the inner display aspect ratio suffers from it as well in my opinion. I've been using the Fold 3 for nearly 2 years and I'm not sure if I'll upgrade to the Fold 5 yet or not.

If I had to, I'd choose the Flip. I already use a tablet so don't need a convenient large screen, but the convenient store-ability is something I haven't tried. Different approach to a small phone.

I actually really like the narrow/tall folded form for when I'm out and about. Makes it really easy to one-hand swype messages or entire emails quickly, which i'm doing all day. I've had every iteration of these and I love it.

hey man this really works on my device! Thanks for sharing.

I was planning to get the fold but then when I saw the differences between the 4 and 5 I changed my mind. I'd probably wait for a new vivo fold since they don't shy away from high end performance like fast charging and not include trash CPUs like exynos

Seeing these devices in person is truly impressive. The screen tech is amazing. Would love to see Apple give it a go with their spin.

Rocking flip4 for a year now. Tempted to upgrade, but i'll wait for a better camera and less noticeable crease. Most thing I love so far is the battery life.

My flip 5 gets here tomorrow, I loved the 4 so much I jumped at the trade in opportunity as soon as I saw it.

I'm debating on upgrading from my Z Flip 4. Love it but the larger outside screen would be nice. Which would you recommend between the Flip 5 and the Razr+? Also, do you know if this current gen Razr has the same bluetooth delay issue as the 2020 version?

Appreciate your commentary! I was wondering why they didn't highlight the Fold's front screen during the "Unpacked" event. You confirmed it, no change. For me the Fold will need to go to a full 8" screen, along with a storable S-Pen before I can shell out that kind of money. The phone is nice, but the Ultra is still "Top Dog"!

I think they found the sweet spot for the fold. And wondering if battery optimization has improved and perhaps a bigger battery was not needed.

I read a couple of reviews. And I like the approach of small but elegant upgrade on the old but beloved design. I think the fold can be a big thing, Samsung just has to got it right.

very good and detailed review

Yea I’m looking forward to see what they do to the fold 6. I have the fold 4 now.

Personally I like the narrow front screen - with my hands its much better in that I can easily deal with the phone with one hand, for anything else I flip open the inside screen. A bigger screen would be a real hassle. Maybe they have done some deep testing for what peeps like. Like your presentations in general Marcus!

Currently, I'd only consider the flip 4 or 5 as it's about the size of a standard size s. If they make it more like a standard but can clamshell or go to mini tablet using the standard size or the ultra size, I'm open. And put that pen in like the ultra too. I think for people to be open, it needs to be a step up from flagship, not it being weird but bigger

I think the general idea of the thin tall outer display is to encourage inner screen use, and to seperate inner and outer screen tasks, so that you only use the outer screen for Spotify or a quick text and you use the inner screen for media, I think the flip series is doing a similar thing where the outer screen is mostly for notifications, and now you can also access Spotify or text something real quick, but you still want to actually open the phone for media consumption. It's smart but also I just want a damn normal aspect ratio and for neither screen to be that close to a normal aspect ratio can definitely be annoying, I definitely think the pixel fold has a better layout with that more normal looking outer screen and an inner screen that folds into landscape instead of portrait, however nobody can beat Samsung in terms of durability, and the pixel has thick bezels and less advanced software, so while I prefer the aspect ratio of other phones, folding phones as a whole are still best done by Samsung, and that's why that's what people are buying

Still rockin my Flip 3, only noticeable wear is that the crease has gotten deeper. Had to replace the screen protector though as the factory one started lifting at the crease, but it was a simple 5 min job.

I think the passport sized folding phone is the perfect form factor. Either if Samsung creates a new one or switches the fold series to that, and/or the Google Fold gets better over time, that is the one that I'll get.

Just came here, again, after watching fpt’s review on MKBHD and man you’re absolutely so boss at tech reviews🔥

Sprint subscribers could not get enough of the Mega. I could not keep them in stock, and they had crazy long activation records.

you uploaded faster than my interned speed

I for one don't want Samsung to change the form factor of the Fold. Brilliant for one handed use and fits the pockets better.

I cant say enough good about my Fold 4 but I was hoping to get an upgraded Fold 5. Being that the changes are so minor ill definitely wait till the next gen.

I love the fold 4. I've had one from day one and I love the narrow front design. I'm completely against the passport design and glad Samsung didn't go that route. The only thing they need to improve is the camera on the fold series, which will be a game-changing feature.

Another big upgrade is the Zflip5 has dex support! I think!? It wasn't specifically announced but was supposedly confirmed earlier this year

damn. i remember the first gen fold came out with all the issues, and we are already at 5th gen... the hinge design has definitely grown well. i can see this being common in coming years. i guess the next goal is to have thinner body, to get single phone's thickness when folded. and flexible glass screen, instead of plastic.

So on one end with the Flip 5, you get the gen 2 processor, which the majority of people realistically wont notice the difference from gen 1. The other end with the Razor+, you get a larger outside screen that is fully usable, not limited to widgets like the Flip 5 . Having a hard time seeing a reason to get the Flip 5 instead.

I'm curious on how the phones feel while you have them in your pocket. When going out or are at work, I wonder if the foldables are comfortable while stored in pockets. My S23 Ultra has no issue of comfortability, just because its so thin.

Improving the hinge and putting a larger display on the front of the phone is pretty significant imo