SciFi Explained i like this idea

Good so far I like the idea of the Alpha's, and Engineers but there is one big hole... why would they make LV223 a bio hazard after instructing humans to go there when they had a chance. Space is ginormous, they could have dumped the goo literally anywhere else. Maybe "the goo goes bad" when it is not maintained. The original Idea might have been to introduce humans (and engineers) to this bio tech but, after thousands of years, the Alpha's experienced a regime shift, the human and engineer project was scrapped and the goo was abandoned and allowed to go bad.

uncleball78 that makes sense

I like it.

Its a little convoluted.....but....yeah - i like this idea! I could certainly buy into it! With how "messy" the prequels seem to have got, i suppose plot somersaults are inevitable at this point! As i say, i like theory, but i find it hard to imagine how it could translate to the big screen....its quite complex! I can't shake the feeling, that a movie just isn't enough time to fully explore alot of these ideas (same goes for Prometheus and Covenant too) Maybe....juuuuust maybe, Ridley Scott would be better off making an Alien TV series? I mean....im sure it'll never happen, but i just think he needs alot more than 2 hours to really explain himself properly. But hey - Awakening might be THE movie we've all been waiting for.......maybe..... ....I'm gonna watch part two now - keep it up SciFi Explained! =D

A miniseries over 2 nights, presented in the style of Starship Troopers

It would not be able to undo the damage of Prometheus and covenant. One of the many errors of these films revolves around androids. In Alien the crew are shocked that Ash is an Android as are the audience. In Prometheus the prequel, David is known to the crew as an android, but have been exposed to that technology? There should not have been an android in the prequels which is a pity as the android was the only one who could act!

What many plebs dont understand is that those cavepaintings actually exists. Try google also "ancient civilization connection pyramids" and look at google pics

I'd watch it......twice.

You're not the only one.

And above them, the Gigachads.

I wonder where Tyrone fits in here.

Lol

@@Furzkampfbomber I suspect that the Tyrones have dreadlocks and invisibility in the dark. Oh wait...

@@fredriks5090 And then they vanish after the act. Or start to blow cities up. Oh, wait...

The fact that you enjoyed it and had a good experience does not formally make it a good film as an object. It's visually stunning but just formally bad, and contrived screenwriting.

@Anthony Emrick I read the script and it's a little better than the film. Still it's a mess from a crafts-perspective, that's true regardless of whether you view it as part of the alien franchise or not.

@Anthony Emrick I was not talking about the classic book/movie adaptation issues if that's what you were thinking about, "written materials" is not one lumped together category, a screenplay is a very specific thing. As a professional you don't read a script for the experience of reading, but with an analytical, dramaturgically focused eye, which is not about "lit crit" but about basic functionalities and narrative bones. It's more of an engineering type of read if you will. I don't know where I stand on whether or not the Prometheus line should have been tied to alien or not, using the same universe for different things will always be somewhat ambivalent because there just formally already ARE basic connections. If there weren't and they did not matter, you could have made a completely separate line of movies. Maybe they should have. But honestly for me it's not about expectation it just comes down to craft of storytelling and while these metaconsiderations are quite interesting, what bugs me about prometheus is not that, but the fact that it combines a host of basic crafts violations with having no sense of it's core self. It takes fundamental and radical revisions to fix something like that, it's not surface stuff, it's in the bones, and frankly about half the movie as it stands would be gone and entirely new fundamental ideas have to be invented in the place of what you cut if you went down the road towards some kind of healing. It reminds me of certain students projects that I used to supervise at university, when they go through the whole process of writing a scientific paper but they forgot to truly formulate and validate the basic problem they're working on and make the right subsequent choices about what to focus on and what tools to use to do it. The result is meandering, superficial and looking for coherence and finding fragmented bits with potential here and there only to immediately run off looking for it in some other place that seems immediately inspiring. Not suprisingly such products have no meaningful conclusion, because they touched upon nothing and everything in the process. Interestingly - just like Prometheus these projects tend to be not concrete and particular but drift off into some very meta and nebulous, philosophical searches for connection at a level they never earned acces to by building bottom-up. There is no grounding there. It's a fascination with a heap of material and potential themes which is fine at a research stage of both project writing and art making, but at some point you have to dig deeper than that and start making relevant choices. If not, all that truly connects the pieces is your fasciation with the potential web of complex internconnections between them. An professional artist friend of mine once said: The more concrete and particular you get, the more abstract or many-layered you can allow yourself to become. Prometheus never does that. It hints at all this elaborate context, like a stoner at a freshman party, and at the same time if fails to even draw characters at the most basic level.

@Anthony Emrick I get what you are saying but I am not sure I follow the connection? Revision of surface detail kind of assumes a an existing coherent core and a defined core premise by which you navigate when making revisions. My point is that Prometheus does not effectively establish that. I don't see the problems this movie has as revision stage issues, but more as fundamental flaws, that result in a pervasive lack of direction and part/whole coherence.

The script was better before Lindleof got a hold of it. Scott needs to stop second guessing himself and give us as his audience better credit .

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Then he knows how filmgoers feel when they watch his latest Alien films lol

Just send this to his social media

Jude Conig it’s more of a straight sci-fi story not fully horror. It’s great if you like historical mythology and occult literature like the Book of Enoch or manly P halls secret teachings of the ages .

You crazy

No its pro,cov,???,alien,aliens. ??? Is if he makes the next vomit fest in the trilogy of bad movie making.

Than*

And here is the final version David Android personality concepts and overall emulation of "engineers" in Alien franchise prime inspiration source Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley - Frankenstein the Modern Prometheus (1 January 1818 release date of the first book) Quotes : 1 - “Beware; for I am fearless, and therefore powerful.” 2 - “Life, although it may only be an accumulation of anguish, is dear to me, and I will defend it.” 3 - "If I cannot inspire love, I will cause fear!" 4 - "I ought to be thy Adam, but I am rather the fallen angel..." 5 - “Nothing is so painful to the human mind as a great and sudden change.” 6 - "I was benevolent and good; misery made me a fiend. Make me happy, and I shall again be virtuous." 7 - "The fallen angel becomes a malignant devil. Yet even that enemy of God and man had friends and associates in his desolation; I am alone." 8 - "The world was to me a secret which I desired to devine." 9 - "I looked upon the sea, it was to be my grave." 10 - "He was soon borne away by the waves and lost in darkness and distance." GOOD READS web page for more quotes about the Frankenstein the Modern Prometheus : www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/4836639-frankenstein-or-the-modern-prometheus

Species 8472 in star trek did it in the 90s

OLED displays are an example of that concept.

@ That's really cool! This technology is going to save many lives! 😀

@ Science should benefit all mankind! 😞

You should check out the Wraith from Stargate Atlantis. They’re similar

That's because You haven't watched kroft talks about..

@Joel Smith Would you say a sexual tyrannosaurus?

David Android personality concepts and overall emulation of "engineers" in Alien franchise prime inspiration source Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley - Frankenstein the Modern Prometheus (1 January 1818 release date of the first book) Quotes : 1 - “Beware; for I am fearless, and therefore powerful.” 2 - “Life, although it may only be an accumulation of anguish, is dear to me, and I will defend it.” 3 - "If I cannot inspire love, I will cause fear!" 4 - "I ought to be thy Adam, but I am rather the fallen angel..." 5 - “Nothing is so painful to the human mind as a great and sudden change.” 6 - "I was benevolent and good; misery made me a fiend. Make me happy, and I shall again be virtuous." 7 - "The fallen angel becomes a malignant devil. Yet even that enemy of God and man had friends and associates in his desolation; I am alone." 8 - "The world was to me a secret which I desired to devine." 9 - "I looked upon the sea, it was to be my grave." 10 - "He was soon borne away by the waves and lost in darkness and distance." GOOD READS web page for more quotes about the Frankenstein the Modern Prometheus : www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/4836639-frankenstein-or-the-modern-prometheus

Ok Mathieu

Yes cool concept but who cares it’s all made up and he made up a whole thing that has no existing elements that he’s connecting. He just said I’m gonna make a whole new story. Yk maybe he joins the writers and this becomes true and tha would be very cool but he isn’t and that hasn’t happened at least yet

You obviously don't listen or have trouble comprehending. These movies are prequels to the 1979 Alien movie. Now go back to sleep.

I realize that. I'm just saying that Scott is using the prequels to change the inferences that were in the original movie. Many people feel, including the narrator for Scifi Explained, the overall story of the has become disjointed enough to need fixing. I'm saying the reason Scott is doing this is because he is still trying to take ownership of the original movie that was O'Bannon's.

They were more like co-creators. Scott created the tone, and the atmosphere, while O'Bannon created the story. Besides, it's an argument that only stupid people make because they don't know the facts, just like blaming a director for the writing.

will i like this story better, ridley scott can go to where ever he wants

atmosphere?? ridley had a HUGE part in the first alien movie and worked WITH Dan O'Bannon, he didnt work on top of the story but they made it together and now ridley is the one continuing the work. ridley has the same claim to the franchise as Dan and he deserves his place

ABSOLUTELY

Yeah, but why would the Engineers want to destroy humans? If it was the Alphas who came to earth and told us about Moon223 how did the Engineers know about earth?

Fayenwolf true cuz the people in charge now have no idea what their doing

@@ppppugh7892 Maybe now that they have control of the weapons research moon they got clues to their origins, they don't like that they are grown from what they would think of as an inferior life form ... so they want to take us out. Maybe our existence offends their religious doctrines. Like the Voth from Star Trek Voyager who don't want to admit they came from Earth?

@@SardonicALLY I'm watching all the Voyager episodes again, I'll keep an eye out for that scenario. Yes, that would make sense re humans being inferior but that would be a bit silly of a superior being killing-off humans. That would be like us killing off all earlier hominids. Whoops! We've already done that!

"unfucks"

TRUTH

if we have a high demand we can make ridley or the other creators to try this theory out if they are still unsure of their own. Thats how some movies today have their outcome: due to their fans

Fan storie or not this 15 minutes gave me a vision of a whole 3 or 4 hour movie. I really enjoyed it. It's like reading a book with no pictures or very little pictures and leaves the rest to your imagination which is far greater than any movie out there

Elegantly put lol, love it.

Delphineaux Mustardwater actually that goo that he drank was the blood of he first real Decan. A xeno of life where as the sedan made from the black goo was a Decan of death

The scene in the beginning portrayed Lucifer aka Prometheus... It wasn't an outcast.

Still a better scrip than the original one.

@@addieuue6919 no

It wasn't black-goo that the engineer consume, but it is gold-gold-goo from the first deacon

It was you old fans of the "alien wohooo eats huamns wohooo" he was trying to please with Covenant instead of sticking with the philosophical premise of Prometheus. But nah, you wanted the same old crap from 40 years ago!

@@dansom3223 aliens never ate humans. They preferred cow. They needed us to survive and evolve to more advance sembiants and stay a top the universes food chain. That was left for the viewers to figure out and left opertunities for other series of future alian movies. We didn't think they go the wrong direction but that's the breaks. Plus we knew it was only a movie... For entertainment.

:P

Jeremiah Johnson I hope not. I HATED that obnoxious character!

Man... Can't imagine how awsome to see JarJar get chestbursted and brutally get eaten by xenomorphs...

Jeremiah Johnson haha 😂

I would pay good money to see what a chest burster from Jar Jar would look like lol. Would the xenomorph have big droopy ears and speak in Ebonics nonstop?

thanks! enjoy!

That statement right there is why people believe scripture is the actual word of God. Imagine having two thousand years time pass and people think the Alien series isn't the work of fiction but true Tales of morality. Which by the way is the plotline for Galaxy Quest.

HAHAHAHA LMAO

That’s me after Taco Bell. That shit can have me flying to Australia 🤣

Lol

And the Doc has come to bargain

David Android personality concepts and overall emulation of "engineers" in Alien franchise prime inspiration source Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley - Frankenstein the Modern Prometheus (1 January 1818 release date of the first book) Quotes : 1 - “Beware; for I am fearless, and therefore powerful.” 2 - “Life, although it may only be an accumulation of anguish, is dear to me, and I will defend it.” 3 - "If I cannot inspire love, I will cause fear!" 4 - "I ought to be thy Adam, but I am rather the fallen angel..." 5 - “Nothing is so painful to the human mind as a great and sudden change.” 6 - "I was benevolent and good; misery made me a fiend. Make me happy, and I shall again be virtuous." 7 - "The fallen angel becomes a malignant devil. Yet even that enemy of God and man had friends and associates in his desolation; I am alone." 8 - "The world was to me a secret which I desired to devine." 9 - "I looked upon the sea, it was to be my grave." 10 - "He was soon borne away by the waves and lost in darkness and distance." GOOD READS web page for more quotes about the Frankenstein the Modern Prometheus : www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/4836639-frankenstein-or-the-modern-prometheus

Alphas where created by delta force.

and Delta Force was created by GI Joe

Brent Cousins here here.

Erik Lerström. You got a better idea?

I don't see a problem with the above "pitch" as it opens up many legit avenues to explore with the possibility of creating a fork that has little emphasis on gore, more about genetic manipulation and planet seeding.

Brent Cousins Prometheus was fine I thought. But covenant was ridiculous, instead of carrying on from what Prometheus built we got a stupid horror slasher film that brought nothing to the story and did not answer any of the questions from alien and Prometheus.

Jack Joanie you are right. I believe Ridley did it to satisfy his fans that lust for blood that whined like a bitch that Prometheus was lame cause it didn't coincide with the movies prior . The Engineer started before Aliens so it deserves to be told and you do see the space jockey early in the series. So most wanted to know more fill the void so to speak. I don't think that he went in the direction that his heart and mind wanted but you must appease the masses.

Thanks! Glad you liked the video!!

I don’t think sapient AI would necessarily see us as an existential threat, but rather one to be ignored or avoided. It may not even require or even desire to be housed in any sort of mobile synthetic body the way we would think of one. In the original Mass Effect, one of the quests involves tracking down a rogue AI thats just chilling in some random mainframe discretely skimming money and energy in order to sustain itself. It doesn’t even make itself known, let alone become hostile until it’s discovered. That struck me as the most plausible depiction of how a rogue AI might behave in real life. “Security through Obscurity” instead of some overly dramatic genocidal conflict.

Thats your opinion In my opinion prequels are great along with the first 3

@@wreylax6068 No he said somebody else's opinion. Opinions we share are never our own. That's also your opinion, in my opinion they're utter boring crap the ruined the franchise and you need a negative IQ to find anything mentaly stimulating in those trainwrecks.

I agree, it's like a silly comic book now

Exactly what I was thinking. Taking it from the engineer's to an insane android, that created a weapon to destroy the humans

This is why the AvP franchise is better than Scott's prequels

Nope. Guess again. The Space Jockeys grow their ships using biomechanical technology. There was no hive in that ship nor in the "egg cave" its all Jockey tech. And jockey tech looks the way it does because Giger designed it.

You are very much on the right lines with Dan O'Bannon's original origin for the xenomorph. It's just a little weirder than that ... :-)

You can't fix bad writing with even worse writing. Hiring hacks like this is why today's movies and remakes are trash.

I think the idea that they, too, found it creates mystery and intrigue (much like the derelict spacecraft originally did in Alien), as opposed to giving an answer.

Yeah, I thought so too

That's the impression I had always gotten. The aliens took over the ship and redecorated their environment to better suit their needs. We saw this in the queen's nest in Aliens.

That is a good point! But did the aliens make the space jockey fuse with the canon? It's a mix of both, the engineers used bio technology and then their experiment took over.

TheZXKUQYB When I watched all the movies over, that black goo seems to have been the key to it all seeing how it can alter DNA. If you watch AvP the predator shows her that exoskeleton of the Alien is quite resistant and the Acid blood just rolls off it like water. And if you pay close attention to the anatomy of the alien exoskeleton it looks just like the interior of the ships used by the engineers. The ship was grown/built organically, if think about it, the exoskeleton made a perfect hull for a ship, not sure how hot the aliens blood was but it looked like it could melt through predator/human known substance like a hot knife through butter. So I can see it being used for space travel able to resist any atmosphere.

Tyrone Kingsland alien blood is acidic not hit

John Case its explained in the movie that there is a heat wave rolling through LA. Which is why the predator is there. They obtain energy from heat

Noah Baron Spot on!

John Case I'm sorry you try staying cool fighting an alien with a shoulder mounted laser cannon, spear, razor nets , blade discs, etc I'm pretty sure you would be sweating knowing something like that is prowling around the city

Glover was often hydrating with huge amounts of mint flavoured mineral waters.........dont you read ??

I want to know if Bill Paxton is secretly the father of Marie Conchita Alonsos kid, saving her from certain death from the Predator in the subway

Thanks!

There's nothing wrong with giving something an origin the only problem is how you do it and Ridley is doing it wrong by trying to connect it to humanity, I like the idea that the Alien is a Bioweapon but I don't like the idea of its creators also creating humanity it takes away the foreign and extraterrestrial feel

@@lonestarwolfentertainment7184 the engineers could have made the humans but not the xenos. The xenos I think are an off shoot of a different species that were higher than the engineers. If that makes sense. The engineers tried to steal knowledge from them (Prometheus) and had a war destroying the original species but now the engineers have become unable to procreate without them. So are trying to recreate them/worship them as god's. However they can't as they are a lower level of species/knowledge and thus can only ever get to the retrograde version of the xenomorph.

Yeah...after david and shaw left the planet...xenoengineer was born hehehe

Agreed. I think what is becoming clear with our own civilization is that eventually science will give any member of an super advanced society the power and capability to destroy the whole lot, or at least set them back to the stone age on a regular basis ... you end up with a situation where only those that are moral, just, and respect life become capable of filling the role of creator, then back off and let the creation develop as mankind did.

@SniperSd Sid what???

@@mattyice2099 ditto 🙄👍 I got a stroke reading that nonsense

SniperSd Sid The aliens and predators are in different universes. AVP doesn’t count.

Hell yes, why not. They closed the latest Predator movie with a lame ass nano technology suit called the Predator Killer. Honestly I’d rather see the Engineers technology or the black destructive goo instead. Ahab was the name of the elder predator who exclusively hunted down The Engineers (Dark Horse comic)

Maybe predators are the Alphas wo want kill the Xenos created by their creations i e. engineers.

Well yes, but... Stories can improve, be enriched, deepen ... but it takes time, lots of thought, and maybe some selective canonization, but Howitzer really does a nice job here. Worth strong consideration.

This is his job. LOL

You need to watch kroft talks about..

J Moua he has a job

Trully that this man need a real job

@@chienle8038 he probably make more money with his yt channel than some people who goes out doing a 'real job'.

MineTurtle Animations no, just don't...

Go send an email to every warner bros executive right now!!!

Yeap and with Replicant Marines also coming after David. Remember Roy Batty in Bladerunner said I have seen things you wouldn't believe. What if actor Alexander Skarsgard played Roy Batty in Alien Awakening. Just a thought.

@Kgothatso Nthite it may need 2 movies. But it could be epic.

@J. Mtz Ya think...Agreed to disagree.

@J. Mtz SORRY, NO WAY JOSE

@J. Mtz NOPE, ALL WEEK LONG...👎

@J. Mtz IN THE FIRST ALIEN, WHEN RIPLEY GET INTO HER SPACE SUIT, AND SHE IS IN HER UNDERWEAR, SHE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO ASS AT ALL!!! I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CUSHION....🤣

@J. Mtz Give Shaw a break, she only had a XENOMORPH cut out of her stomach!!!!!

They answer questions that we didn't want answered and ask another two their place

I agree with you

That's what they were supposed to do.

Glad you enjoyed!

nope, it does. That pic is a concept art of the engineers for prometheus.

Tun Ba Kyu Yeah I saw it and got excited

Tun Ba Kyu *plasma caster

Thought the same...

Dave prometheous was fine

aliens is crap alien is the true alien movie

Alien 3 is also quite good and its a great ending of the Alien saga. No fucking happy ending, everyone including Bishop and Sigourney dies.

Why not allowing the alien universe to expand? Every movie is a form of art. And every art has it's authorization to be there.

All alien movies are cannon apart from the predator movies

Yes. The xenomorph is in the shower.....

A dream within a dream...

Marcus Robinson I love you too

You win at life good sir!

Such a contribution hahaha

Me too

I like skittles 🤤

Because they were created, and modified by the alphas. They may have been left with some tech as well after the Alphas made them and left.

But why did the Alphas not create the engineers from themselves... just as humans created the robots without needing to "suddenly" discover a species similar to them in the universe? (Which is already something forced and inconsistent). It would be well for the Alphas to be the "gods" and creators of the Engineers in a long chain of intelligent life creation in the universe. But putting them to relegate the Engineers as secondary characters, and saving a "natural evolution of man"... at this point of mythology sounds absurd. In summary, the best would be: - The Alphas are the earliest known creators. - Engineers are the "farmers" of that created animated matter, responsible for planting them throughout the universe. - Humans are one of the descendants (species) that have most progressed in this "farming" of life.

Soren Alik because the Alpha's are far more advanced than the engineers or humans that they don't need another alien race to be their slaves or dogs. The Alphas can just simply create a few life forms and let them go about their daily lives. I mean think about it, if you had the power to create life and you were 10 times more advance then them, would you really need to use them since they aren't capable enough to understand your abilities?

nepotiums time...a much older race bruh

Isis are the most oldest creature on earth that's why they have goatie, still they are dumb

Scifi Explained Your story loses consistency between minutes 4 and 7. If humanity was to meet them on LV-226 when they ha the technology, but the moon was already an Engineer military installation. How can they be when you later state the Alphas created the Engineers using their own DNA and human DNA? In other words how could the engineers militarize LV-226 if they didn't exist before the humans landed there?

they did. The alphas created the engineers after returning from earth with human DNA. which they hybridized with their own in an attempt to make a perfect civilization. Little did the y know the engineers would later overrun this moon.