Secrets of the Antikythera Mechanism: Session 2

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Computer History Museum

Computer History Museum

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[Recorded: May 13, 2015]
In 1900, sponge divers off the coast of the tiny Greek island of Antikythera made an astonishing discovery: the wreck of an ancient Roman ship lay 200 feet beneath the water, its dazzling cargo spread out over the ocean floor. Among the life-size statues and amphorae was an encrusted piece of metal, which after nearly a century of investigation, is finally revealing its secrets. Called the Antikythera Mechanism, study has shown that this improbably preserved object is actually an ancient Greek astronomical computer of a technical sophistication not seen until the clock making traditions of Medieval Europe-1,500 years after the Mechanism is believed to have been made (about 200 BC).Recent advances in computer imaging as well as painstaking scholarship have finally elucidated nearly all details of the Mechanism.
Join us as we dive into the mysterious history of the Antikythera Mechanism, guided by several world experts: Jonathan Knowles, from Autodesk, discusses the use of digital tools to recreate historical objects; Michael Wright, former curator of mechanical engineering at the Science Museum in London, describes the structure and recreation of the Mechanism at University College London and brought a model of the device to the Museum for audience members to explore; professor Nicolaos Alexopoulos presents on the sociology, engineering, and science of ancient Greece; marine archaeologist Brendan Foley describes his 2014 diving expedition to the original Antikythera wreck site; and, finally, Tatjana Dzambazova will discuss her projects at Autodesk for the digital preservation and dissemination of cultural heritage. The host of this event is Museum Trustee Michael Hawley.
Secrets of the Antikythera Mechanism: Session One can be viewed here: • Secrets of the Antikyt...

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@energ8t
@energ8t 5 років тому
Antikythera related talk starts at 24:00 This was a very informative and great talk. Wish I was there. Thanks for this.
@schoolhomevrtechnologyassi6286
@schoolhomevrtechnologyassi6286 3 роки тому
@E X P L I C I T - C R I T I C I S M Shit? I suppose you were looking in a mirror when you wrote that! The ability to create, anything... 'shit'... Bloody dumbed down humanity..
@Austins_Corner
@Austins_Corner 2 роки тому
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@Austins_Corner
@Austins_Corner 2 роки тому
@E X P L I C I T - C R I T I C I S M , ,,
@Sierranite
@Sierranite 2 роки тому
Advertising for Autodesk . Someone’s ’ got to pick up the bill.
@eldritchwulfe
@eldritchwulfe 2 роки тому
@@schoolhomevrtechnologyassi6286 Im here for a lecture on the Antikythera Mechanism, NOT some corporate commercial bollocks of almost half an hour
@williamthomas2278
@williamthomas2278 2 роки тому
Photogrammetry and LIDAR is opening up so much of the world's surface to explore! Wonderful time to pay attention to new discoveries
@thepickles8833
@thepickles8833 2 роки тому
I love the man whose made the model so long that he’s openly direct about how problematic the device is. As a glorified legend this mechanism has become, made with some limitations of its time, sure.. it’s extraordinary that such a thing was attempted and constructed then. I’d love to have a miniature replace of his functional model just to look upon and remember how brilliant innovations in design and technology can be lost and found at any time.
@troycongdon
@troycongdon 2 роки тому
What an incredible set of talks. Thank you for putting in the effort to preserve and share this.
@user-wv1pj6wh4h
@user-wv1pj6wh4h Місяць тому
bullshit. zero real information
@Cozmik_Overkill
@Cozmik_Overkill Рік тому
I would love to see a modern iteration of the antikythra mechanism. I'm sure there's a market for that sort of thing, I know I wouldn't mind owning one 😉
@user-wv1pj6wh4h
@user-wv1pj6wh4h Місяць тому
why they ahve the craneo of a monkey and show us? its not from an human,, neaderthais ahbigger heads than us and bigger brains..
@user-wv1pj6wh4h
@user-wv1pj6wh4h Місяць тому
see in wat what date antiketera stopped--
@GateWay-ky6xq
@GateWay-ky6xq 6 років тому
What a fascinating subject, really enjoyed that ........ certainly beats watching garbage television of today. These 2 sessions really puts into perspective just how dumb the modern age really is, we tend to think we're a so clever with all our modern innovations, the digital age and all that, but I truly believe that somewhere along the line we have forgotten the important things, or we just choose to ignore them. Thank God not all the sciences are used to create boring and mundane gadgets such as smart phones and tablets, but are used to better understand the past. Now off to read about 'Photogrammetry' ..................... TURK
@blackbird5634
@blackbird5634 2 роки тому
As a commercial diver who's done plenty of pipeline repair in the gulf, I confess I wear a Casio $40 dollar dive watch when I'm working, and when I'm on dry land, then I bring out the ''good watch.''
@doncouls1244
@doncouls1244 2 роки тому
This is the best show I’ve ever seen
@sirhrmechanic2648
@sirhrmechanic2648 6 років тому
part two is also fantastic!!! Great videos on an amazing topic. Thanks for posting.
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath 2 роки тому
When I was in architecture school my first year design teacher said “craftsmanship equals education”. My school was really big on model making in addition to drafting and perspective drawing. I loved model making and was a perfectionist. Nowadays I’m an inventor and I make my own prototypes using inexpensive tools. No CNC for me. They say necessity is the mother of invention but I say laziness is the mother of invention. if you have to build your invention prototype yourself without CNC instead of draw it in 3-D you will either have to work night and day or you will have to be creative and simplify. If you have access to 3-D modeling tools and 3-D printers you will never learn how to think 3-D in your brain. The brain is a muscle and if you don’t use it it will atrophy. Actually the brain is a bunch of muscles and whichever ones you don’t use will atrophy. Somebody should run a test to see how well old school people can guess the number of marbles in a jar versus kids raised using computers from the get go. You say well who cares who can guess the number of marbles in a jar. It’s nice to have enough instinct to know when someone has the decimal point in the wrong place and off by a factor of 10 or 100 or 1000. Could mean life or death
@Magicalfluidprocess
@Magicalfluidprocess 2 роки тому
Mark pope I enjoyed reading your above comment 👍 Time and space are functions of ones conceptual scheme
@Z1BABOUINOS
@Z1BABOUINOS 2 роки тому
Maritime archaeology on a luxury yacht, in Greece! 🤩 Pure class...
@dixieboy5689
@dixieboy5689 2 роки тому
Dont forget the $ 30,000 watches !!
@jamessullivan4391
@jamessullivan4391 2 роки тому
So many people hate kythera's and I don't get why. I have never been antikythera.
@nonickname9612
@nonickname9612 Рік тому
Nice work James :)
@edstar83
@edstar83 6 років тому
I watched the whole thing this was very interesting. Thank you.
@FrancoisLabelle-yf8tj
@FrancoisLabelle-yf8tj 3 роки тому
Technology put to good use! How refreshing!
@tjsmith77777
@tjsmith77777 4 роки тому
Fantastic, breathtaking stuff! I wonder if in a few years time, will archaeologists then regard this current work as antediluvian.
@keithfitzpatrick4139
@keithfitzpatrick4139 Рік тому
Very Very Very Cool. Thank you so much for this informative video. Awesome. I love to learn from the educated disciplines. I especially like the facts and archeological efforts.
@StofStuiver
@StofStuiver 2 роки тому
Yes dear lady, you absolutely convinced me and have my 100% attention!!! The tech is also very nice.
@dloadthis1617
@dloadthis1617 2 роки тому
Great presentation! I'm surprised you don't have a patreon account for viewers that wish to donate to this very worthy cause.
@d.jamesrobinson9008
@d.jamesrobinson9008 2 роки тому
this is awesome!
@PacoOtis
@PacoOtis 7 років тому
Wow! Thanks for an excellent video. I do believe Michael Wright is our modern day Archimedes! What a dedicated genius he appears to be. It is quite interesting to see that the "ancients" were as smart as they were as we tend to think we are the only "smart" ones. Great video of dedicated people doing professional work.
@Lalakis
@Lalakis 3 роки тому
Noone tends to think that modern people are the "smart" ones. In fact the projections for the future show that the reverse Flynn phenomenon is going to dominate as the general IQ is dropping and will continue to drop. Have you seen the film idiocracy ?
@saultube44
@saultube44 7 років тому
This is exactly what i wanted, expert analysis to undetstand the device from orogin to its interpretation with modern technology, great 2 part presentation, thans a lot *thumb up*
@uploadJ
@uploadJ 6 років тому
Touche'.
@GMPLAS7
@GMPLAS7 2 роки тому
The gentleman issues a cautionary note circa 64 mins into his spiel! When I led an expedition with National Geographic personnel and cameras to investigate reports of a giant octopus off the Bermudan coast I made some last minute communications with Swiss watch manufacturers, e.g. Rolex, asking if they might wish to supply us with their products for publicity purposes. They all responded that the news had come to late for them to agree to that. Drat! The moral of the story: if you want Swiss watch makers to give their watches for your fleet, well - be fleet!
@SgtJoeSmith
@SgtJoeSmith Рік тому
Thanks I needed something I could fall to sleep listening too. Also I used Autocad 12 in college in 90s
@ricchamen6304
@ricchamen6304 Місяць тому
I’m agreed with the dude with the silver hair piece&watch ads. There is much history out there and fishermen s lines get held up. As do nets. Reported;they could be investigated and dived. It’s a good to research each wreck and thereby discover new(or rather older wrecks);with valid stuff aboard which humanity needs to dive research and recover evidences for us to research and look into and analyse. To rediscover our human past. We can only go forward and grow as humanity the more we discover. Also satellite imagery and shapes under the sea. But we have the means to research for and find these things now.
@DavidfromMichigan
@DavidfromMichigan 2 роки тому
It's almost a blessing that ship went down. We would've never known. Those statues and watch would've been melted down for more swords and history would've never been discovered. Amazing!
@chinchan9
@chinchan9 3 роки тому
And then 2020 struck and there was no touchy touchy anywhere anymore :3
@schoolhomevrtechnologyassi6286
@schoolhomevrtechnologyassi6286 3 роки тому
EXCEPT in VR where one can pick up and inspect, throw, expand all these things in VR!
@marc2638
@marc2638 Рік тому
Ok so to me what's the difference between this Exosuit and deep sea diving suit where you breath NO2 and 02 while being wrapped in a shell to protect you from the incredible pressures that the deep sea and ocean have? I know ypu are tethered to a bell with the deep see diving suit we have had and this exosuit seems self sustained? Other than that what's the major advantage the Exosuit gives over the deepsea diving suit we have?
@rogerscottcathey
@rogerscottcathey 4 роки тому
Michael Wright is brilliant. He minds one of David Attenborough.
@johnknoche2762
@johnknoche2762 Рік тому
Very interesting.
@mirgrande7683
@mirgrande7683 Рік тому
Brilliant. Beautifu land intelligent young woman explaining amazing technology. !!
@elissitdesign
@elissitdesign 3 роки тому
Having done photogrammetry myself, I’m in complete shock of their results with the submersible. It’s not easy, especially with their large dataset-massive computational power and plenty of RAM is required. I love the technology side of things and wish they went into more detail on that side. Stunning video nonetheless!
@RickyGreen86
@RickyGreen86 2 роки тому
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@RickyGreen86 2 роки тому
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@RickyGreen86 2 роки тому
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@RickyGreen86 2 роки тому
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@RickyGreen86 2 роки тому
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@cliffcampbell8827
@cliffcampbell8827 Рік тому
There should be some great discoveries at the bottom of the black sea too.
@davidwilkie9551
@davidwilkie9551 5 років тому
Engineering excellence. This is a "learning by doing" and WYSIWYG here-now-forever Apprenticeship presentation, that is ex-plan-atory by showing the working device. In practice, if a Student can replicate the Device and add improvements that innovate on the intended purpose, then a modern Computer Program integrated with the current standards of Cosmology is the appropriate outcome for this project. Deductions about the history, in Scientific Analysis, are the general consequence.
@denvan3143
@denvan3143 3 роки тому
I have never allowed myself to be intimidated by a blank page or an empty screen. As an artist an empty sheet presents endless possibilities. As a writer a blank page and a blinking cursor at top left is an adventure waiting to happen. In a staring contest with the screen, the cursor always blinks first.
@brookiemonster9581
@brookiemonster9581 3 роки тому
Why am I always recommended part 2 first? Definitely going to watch part 1.
@questionreality2637
@questionreality2637 3 роки тому
Same here, the Algorithms want certain people to see certain things
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath 2 роки тому
Because it is a woman
@dancarlson9248
@dancarlson9248 Рік тому
If you watched part 1 first with it,s excruciatingly annoying concert of aaahs and uuums from Michael you wouldn,t have ventured to stick around for part 2.
@BEDLAMITE-5280ft.
@BEDLAMITE-5280ft. Рік тому
Starts at 30mins in.
@klauswittrupjensen
@klauswittrupjensen 6 років тому
Can anyone guide me to information about how the bronze sheet stock was produced at that time? Was it cast and and hot rolled with bronze or stone rollers? I can only find information about the casting process.
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 3 роки тому
Copper was used from 1760 to sheath ship’s bottoms. They could have been hand Beeston but it’s likely the Greeks used similar methods to make bronze sheets. ‘Copper and other Sheathing in the Royal Navy', John M Bingeman, J P Bethel, P Goodwin & A T Mack, Int. J. Naut. Arch. (2000) 29, 2: pp218-229).
@bitsnpieces11
@bitsnpieces11 2 роки тому
Simply: melt the bronze/brass and pour onto a flat surface, say stone, then cool. Afterward use a hammer to pound on it to make it flatter with occasional heating to anneal the work hardening until you get a sheet of the thickness you wanted. They had been working gold, silver and copper that way for a WHOLE LOT of years. They had iron to make hammers and anvils for some time then.
@alainportant6412
@alainportant6412 2 місяці тому
Antiquity is fake. This thing is infinitely more recent
@DavidfromMichigan
@DavidfromMichigan 2 роки тому
Imagine 50 thousand years from now archeologists digging up the Smithsonian. They're like wth?
@jeantuathail
@jeantuathail 2 роки тому
Considering the Smithsonian routinely destroys and disappears artifacts, I would say any Smithsonian lair but the deepest vaults would only contain very surface level knowledge about our civilization.
@DavidfromMichigan
@DavidfromMichigan 2 роки тому
@@jeantuathail yes, I've heard some crazy things about the Smithsonian. ALL history should be available to everyone. Maybe someday.
@thetawaves48
@thetawaves48 3 роки тому
"It made a big splash" - pun unintended.
@orfescuhoratiu
@orfescuhoratiu 3 роки тому
interesting ...the internal combustion engine will be history so this the best time to put some infos online :)
@camolineowens9365
@camolineowens9365 3 роки тому
She’sreqreawwwwwwwwwwww.
@GregoryJByrne
@GregoryJByrne 2 роки тому
It takes 235,000 years for the Galactic Bulge to do a full rotation. Galactic Milankovitch cycles cause our climate cycles.
@nvoid2597
@nvoid2597 2 роки тому
Can't they use LIDAR on the site?
@laceybowens2691
@laceybowens2691 Рік тому
Billy Carson is amazing, this man's research and devotion to teach people the truth is phenomenal. His references are on point, you can't deny facts. Thank you Billy for opening the eyes of all walks of life. You're wisdom is priceless.! Big ups!😎💯♛⏪⚿☥
@schoolhomevrtechnologyassi6286
@schoolhomevrtechnologyassi6286 3 роки тому
@35:24 I thought it was ADAM PLUCKING THE NAUGHTY APPLE!
@jaystee1427
@jaystee1427 2 роки тому
There is no such thing
@zenolachance1181
@zenolachance1181 3 роки тому
I would love to get one of the antikythera expedition 2014 t-shirt and I would gladly make a $100 donation to acquire one. Does anyone know if I can get one of these anywhere???
@joelkavanagh1464
@joelkavanagh1464 3 роки тому
... cannot sink more then ten to f-teen, sdly, which hi wood love ta do yiff opportune-eye-tizes by f8/0pportue or al ...
@alainportant6412
@alainportant6412 2 роки тому
@@joelkavanagh1464 please watch your tone
@nemo1716
@nemo1716 Рік тому
@@alainportant6412 What is he saying?
@alainportant6412
@alainportant6412 Рік тому
@@nemo1716 I have absolutely no idea !
@ottavva
@ottavva 3 роки тому
I have read with great care and extreme enthusiasm anything that came into my hands regarding the Antykithera Mechanism and two sets of questions arise which, deliberately or not, all these fine, educated scholars seem to have so elegantly go around like the proverbial HOT POTATOES What had PROPELLED the contraption? Has there been a mechanical or even an electric (''Baghdad battery type'') source of energy? (I can imagine a tiny DURACELL energizer bunny sitting inside this contraption, the bunny of course having perished in the shipwreck) .. alright, let us not our wings grow too large, I will not mention (actually, I just have!!) an atomic source ?? The second group of untouched questions is the presumed time the contraption actually stopped functioning due to both the MECHANICAL STRESS (storm and sinking) and the CHEMICAL REACTION (the salty sea water) of the catastrophe ... neither article/video deals with IN WHAT POSITIONS THE DIALS/GEARS WERE FOUND TO HAVE STOPPED ... remember the infamous Hiroshima watch (saw a replica at a museum)
@ottavva
@ottavva 3 роки тому
@Scott Menard ?
@bitsnpieces11
@bitsnpieces11 2 роки тому
The power source was applied through a knob on the side and was supplied probably by perhaps the most efficient source of power in the universe, muscles.
@nemo1716
@nemo1716 Рік тому
I don't think they danced around these questions at all, they carefully avoided over-speculation to the point of highlighting when speculation fueled a result. With your two questions, there is currently room for ONLY speculation and no data or evidence to found it on. The power source is a good question and one I ask myself, because while the simplest answer is the hand-crank, are you expected to turn it continuously by hand for 500 years? I don't think so, but there is nothing to found any alternative theories on as of yet. Now is the position at which the gears were found resting important? Very much so. But can you determine whether the device was synchronized prior to sinking, that it wasn't in a nuetral state and then altered by the turbelence of the sea? No. So any conclusions drawn from the astronomical position it was found in would be heresay.
@korensylvester1324
@korensylvester1324 Рік тому
I could listen and learn about this subject for fun
@margaritamartasin8607
@margaritamartasin8607 8 років тому
sounds or they make it too complicated to understand what that little box do...!!?
@cnc-ua
@cnc-ua 7 років тому
It's amazing. Competitive gadgets :)
@jamesbong1858
@jamesbong1858 2 роки тому
glaros is nice one
@dgexpressllc7450
@dgexpressllc7450 2 роки тому
"The Worls That is Gone" - before 1700's
@Superknullisch
@Superknullisch 2 роки тому
TITANIA!!! (Duff man says a lot of things!!) ; )
@dagoelius
@dagoelius 3 роки тому
The medical applications of this software are very interesting.
@boxybrown33
@boxybrown33 3 роки тому
I. Ij OK’ing
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@boxybrown33 3 роки тому
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@boxybrown33
@boxybrown33 3 роки тому
I II job
@boxybrown33
@boxybrown33 3 роки тому
I join I in II b
@boxybrown33
@boxybrown33 3 роки тому
I join I in II bukposts.info/have/v-deo/nGKdfouGrWaZrXU.html
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 3 роки тому
long advert for auto desk 😬 liked the grumpy proffesors though lol
@nemo1716
@nemo1716 Рік тому
Irrelevant comment. The entire sentiment of this lecture is that craftmanship equals education, and they carefully presented the evolution of their tools and how they're relevant to the very subject at hand. With the miniscule funding that the academic world receives, how could you take issue with them advertising these tool sets to potential future engineers, innovators, and mathemeticians? Think bigger than commercial advertisements.
@TheDocLamkin
@TheDocLamkin Рік тому
And now the world is burning, time to go visit the good old days in the Metaverse with all the laser mapping
@nvoid2597
@nvoid2597 2 роки тому
Those bronze statues man. They're fucking me up...
@albertjosephfrancis7125
@albertjosephfrancis7125 3 роки тому
Gosh take a breath lady.. Can we get a water here.
@blu3_enjoy
@blu3_enjoy Рік тому
Dude just upload it to the "cloud" lol! Thank God open source devs exist.
@dixieboy5689
@dixieboy5689 2 роки тому
Cicero ?? Kikero ??
@widescreennavel
@widescreennavel 3 роки тому
Krishna got back!
@alexandrostheone
@alexandrostheone Рік тому
ΚΛΕΨΥΔΡΑ (Water Clock) is stil in one piece at Athens
@bitsnpieces11
@bitsnpieces11 2 роки тому
Talking about the hydrophone system the Greek Gov could put money into it as a research project to become the worlds premier underwater survey/recovery people.
@chrislecky710
@chrislecky710 2 роки тому
Why do we assume than ancient romans or Greeks with the ability to build ships that large and navigate the oceans were not able or willing to collect what would have been ancient artefact's of their time themselves? By doing so we are also making assumptions that the people of that time didn't have the common-sense to plan ahead by building heavy objects in close proximity to the destination those objects were intended to be. Making such assumptions of sophisticated complex civilisations of the past seems ludicrous from my perspective. If we are interested in archaeology and ancient ruins and collecting ancient artefact's from around the world, are we not assuming that we are the only civilisation through history who found a value in doing such thing?? Making such assumptions sounds more so like we are blinded by our ego.
@thepickles8833
@thepickles8833 2 роки тому
Yeah, the ancient Greeks had the time, patience and understanding to go on deep sea diving exhibitions... sure....
@digenis5203
@digenis5203 3 роки тому
Bring back our heritage.
@karenrose7537
@karenrose7537 Рік тому
I used to dive. Now watching this I get nauseous.
@lovejumanji5
@lovejumanji5 2 роки тому
If the owner of the exo suit went out of business , give them some money for the suit ! You all got 30k dollar watches ,you could buy the suit ...sheesh.
@joelkavanagh1464
@joelkavanagh1464 3 роки тому
... bng's innfra-suites ...
@irishpicker7295
@irishpicker7295 Рік тому
Surprised they didn't have to
@johnwellstewartespiso3690
@johnwellstewartespiso3690 2 роки тому
If i was in this session i would just slept the whole session and ask my friend or anyone close to me the shortcut version about the whole session.
@nemo1716
@nemo1716 Рік тому
A common intellectual shortcoming that is prevelant in most young people today.
@MariaSanchez-ik7rf
@MariaSanchez-ik7rf 3 роки тому
King big heart leo here careful now
@tomholloway2
@tomholloway2 8 років тому
It's clear that Tatjana is very clever and well on top of her subject, but I could only understand about half of her talk. If she spoke slower she would be clearer.
@tcb258
@tcb258 4 роки тому
I had no problem understanding her, and I'm partially deaf.
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath 2 роки тому
@@tcb258 So what. He had trouble understanding her, and so did I. Wasn’t just the accent. Frankly I have a degree in architecture it was a structural engineer for Skidmore Owens and Merrell and I never would’ve guessed until she said so that she was an architect for 14 years or even one year. She spoke is it anything Old is going to be out of square. what stupidness. Ironic considering they featured Michael Ray who has so much practical experience and clearly she has no practical experience. I owned a mansion in San Francisco built in 1880 that survived the 1906 earthquake and I can guarantee you everything with Square in that building.
@Kissafarmari
@Kissafarmari 2 роки тому
Please, tell me, do You think, if it would be possible, that the "SAMPO" in Finnish mythology "Kalevala" could be the Antikythera mechanism? "Kirjokansi" means a beautiful, embroidered or wrought, cover or deck. It means, that Sampo was in some kind of a box. Link is just to wikipedia. Kalevala is translated in English, if You are interested to read it. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampo "On one side the flour is grinding,On another salt is making,On a third is money forging,And the lid is many-colored.Well the Sampo grinds when finished,To and fro the lid in rocking,Grinds one measure at the day-break,Grinds a measure fit for eating,Grinds a second for the market,Grinds a third one for the store-house."
@Kissafarmari
@Kissafarmari 2 роки тому
Sampo was NOT destroyed, as it's written in the link. It broke, most of it was sunken, but Louhi managed to get the lid, the cover. When stealing back the Sampo, they travelled with a ship. Louhi finds out, that Sampo has been stolen, and follows the ship. Fight happens on the sea.
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 2 роки тому
Why does the comment section of this video appear to be populated by nutters?
@nemo1716
@nemo1716 Рік тому
Seriously, I've never left so many replies on a single video but the state of these commenters is just appalling. We have proselytizers, nationalists, flat-earthers, science dissenters, and legitimately unintelligible people all in one place fighting against ground-breaking discovery.....and I just don't get it. I truly believe critical thinkers are the most marginalized group of people today, and that's harrowing.
@joelkavanagh1464
@joelkavanagh1464 3 роки тому
... bit ofan lay rcheol etc, so may be vaguely able to imagine the exicitement/elation of tHaT eXpEdItIoN.,!??! …~…. ... .. . .
@curtischildress9580
@curtischildress9580 2 роки тому
The mysterious ancient device isn't worthy of much mention in this video. The video title is misleading.
@nemo1716
@nemo1716 Рік тому
This is a part 2, you're looking for part 1.
@curtischildress9580
@curtischildress9580 Рік тому
@@nemo1716 Thanks!
@piratessalyx7871
@piratessalyx7871 9 місяців тому
Towards the end in question period there is more
@pamelaruff4060
@pamelaruff4060 2 роки тому
sorry-----they really do not know who made this mechanism, they have guessed. their where about 5 Greeks alive at that time able to make sometime like this amazing mechanism.
@believeme5903
@believeme5903 2 роки тому
Why do some intellectuals have to so dam fast, I just can't keep up.
@onceANexile
@onceANexile 2 роки тому
It was dated at 206BC
@nickhristov7764
@nickhristov7764 3 роки тому
Why are they saying "Greek ship", "Greek Statues" when it is a Roman ship during Roman times? Otherwise, good promotional video for Greek hospitality industry. Part 1 was better, bar the guy blaming Rome for the demise of Athens. At the end of the day, the video was supposed to be about the mechanism, not about Greece.
@Lalakis
@Lalakis 3 роки тому
Ok Hristov. Skopje ?
@nickhristov7764
@nickhristov7764 3 роки тому
@@Lalakis do you have anything to add on the matter or just picking up on names?
@Lalakis
@Lalakis 3 роки тому
@@nickhristov7764 Do you ? Your comment offers nothing but bitterness and envy towards the glorious greek civilisation and its achievements. Judging by your name you are either bulgarian, skopjan ... It is very common for some nationalistic delusionals like yourselves to try to diminish the achievement of the ancient greeks out of pure envy and inferiority complex. Well whether you like it or not the mechanism was created by a greek inventor ( archimedes or one of his students), had greek wording on it, based on greek astronomic knowledge, on a greek ship, near a greek island. Syracuse was a greek colony as most of southern italy. And the last speaker of part 1 did not blame Rome in general. He mentioned historical facts about how the spread of christianity and the persecution of everything pagan ( ethnic hellenic ) as blasphemus led to the destruction of tons of gathered knowledge by ancient greeks. Historians and anthropologists project that if the ancient greek civilisation was not destroyed ( mostly due to christianism) mankind would have stepped on the moon around 300-400 AD. Sources can be provided if needed.
@nickhristov7764
@nickhristov7764 3 роки тому
@@Lalakis Well, I don't know who is "nationalistic delusional with inferiority complex" here. Looks like you are describing yourself. But you are right about one thing - ancient greeks "gathered" the knowledge passed from previous civilisations and for which, my respect. As for 400 AD - no comment.
@Lalakis
@Lalakis 3 роки тому
Your last name is enough to explain why you question the mechanism Greek origin. The whole western civilisation is founded on the ancient Greek values. As for the 300-400ad , it is a statement made by Arthur C. Clarke. It is not mine. You should try to focus on the actual subject of the video instead of ridiculing yourself and your country by questioning whether the mechanism is Greek or not. I guess 3 generations of academic researchers that define it as ancient Greek artifact do not know. A Bulgarian troll with inferiority complex knows better. Lol
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath 2 роки тому
Can’t help but wonder if in the long run science will be better off if we waited before excavating archaeological sites until technology improves. Maybe we should just focus on the ones that are under threat by religious sects for now and hold off on the ones that are not under threat I’ve been pilfered for the riches or destroyed for religious reasons.
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath 2 роки тому
26:40 is proof that 2D is often better than 3D
@nemo1716
@nemo1716 Рік тому
??? I think you have the wrong time stamp.
@briezzy365
@briezzy365 2 роки тому
Crazy is relative. This technology has a real world cost.
@irishpicker7295
@irishpicker7295 Рік тому
Lol, they mentioned Autodesk more than antikythera
@MichelJosephCardin
@MichelJosephCardin 2 роки тому
All I see here is a navigation tool that was needed for fishing or exploration of other regions that enabled them in the ability in the returning as safely as possible for them as they could figure out with what they had found out bout what had been of the sure of the changes that were on hand as of a visual that could be mobily calibrated to the changes in their positions' changes.
@nemo1716
@nemo1716 Рік тому
Then your powers of observation have failed you. You need to watch the first part of this lecture and look at the design of the mechanism. Tell me one navigational element you find, one geographical longitute or latitude indicator. I'll wait.
@piratessalyx7871
@piratessalyx7871 9 місяців тому
Not made for the ships navigating home...it was a luxury item in transport
@MuhammadMuhammad-yz7je
@MuhammadMuhammad-yz7je 7 місяців тому
Thing is we find one object and we are fascinated what Quran told us humans were more powerful and advance then we are today but if we just imagine our civilization end and when people dig us after 1000 of years from now most of our technology will be distroy due to rust and all they will find stones from our times lot of plastic also. But I m sure Quran they will find if there is more time and insha ALLAH they will follow it word by word and live better life's until they follow.
@michaelshortell1482
@michaelshortell1482 2 роки тому
Please keep the camera on the screen not the presenter!
@nickthelick
@nickthelick 3 роки тому
Hmmm, the Smithsonian Institution... Don't know what their ethics are like today, but they certainly weren't great over the last 100 years. I realise this subject matter doesn't seemingly offend elitist tastes! Read stories of artefacts literally being dumped overboard into the oceans because of skulls and skeletons not 'fitting in' to the then current (I think it was the 1930s or 40s?) worldview of humanity's age, evolution, and origins. Large, redheaded skeletons from Peru (I think, somewhere in the Mid & South Americas?) were 'lost'. Actually thrown away in reality Apparently so. There is evidence of these finds in the papers of the day, stating the Smithsonian exported them, from there they've disappeared. As well as 'giants' remains from an island in the Mediterranean (Malta? Can't recall). Also some Mediterranean North African countries too. And not just remains either but also stone tablets, carvings and heads. Anyway, I'm not here to piss on their chips on this video! =o) Just having a grumble is all! =oP
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath 2 роки тому
You don’t have to go back that far to find museum curator’s egos affecting what the museum purchases or displays or at least in the basement to be pilfered. The deYoung Museum in San Francisco, named after the Victorian era owner of a newspaper, didn’t have a single piece of Victorian furniture except for a lousy ugly bedroom set of no important maker that belong to the deYoungs, because the curator, Parker, hated Victorian. Important custom San Francisco pieces of Victorian furniture belong to very important San Francisco pioneers were purchased at auction by other museums like the LA County Museum instead because Parker hated Victorian. The LA County Museum even illegally told the deYoung they would not bid on it if they wanted it but the deYoung museum declined. When they recently built a new G Young museum and they cleaned out their basement they sought off sold off all sorts of important Victorian pieces. I recall one Remington typewriter that looked like it was from 1865 sold for over $20,000 at auction. The carriage went in the opposite direction as you typed from the current standard.
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath 2 роки тому
Save some shipwrecks for when technology is better
@angeneeuring8660
@angeneeuring8660 4 роки тому
WHOAH! She just gave me HOPE. The same HOPE that thrived humanity to this point(LOL). JUST AWESOME.
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath 2 роки тому
Either you’re virtue signaling, out for brownie points, or you should be able to tell us what hope she gave you?
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 2 роки тому
@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath no such thing. There are no “points”. Unless you’re one of those religious lunatics.
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino 2 роки тому
I love it.. a lump of metal that has set on the bottom of the sea for centuries.. most of it gone all of it fused together and now one ever had seen anything like it.. and a few years later everyone knows exactly what it was all of it's secrets and everything about it.. It is like Roswell 8 people were involved on the find and three more at the hanger.. but today you can find hundreds that say they were there.. they know exactly what went on and know all the secrets.. Well one thing about it.. this world has gotten pretty funny in 70 years.. What makes it even funnier there are folks that believe this stuff and will get huffy with you if you don't believe them.. Well carry on!
@joelkavanagh1464
@joelkavanagh1464 3 роки тому
... man of head, hand, eYe n tongue && hEArT ms, max respect ....
@MariaSanchez-ik7rf
@MariaSanchez-ik7rf 3 роки тому
Orm sils hamlet intest eration athe
@MariaSanchez-ik7rf
@MariaSanchez-ik7rf 3 роки тому
Pu utilize combdat ctor oucado intre
@fuhkoffandie
@fuhkoffandie 2 роки тому
whoever designed that dress did an awesome job, it's beautiful. oh, wait a minute. it's not the dress, it's you. you make the dress look beautiful😁 "yeah, you can exchange business cards.....", yeah, he can kiss my behind. what a rude butthead. 🤔
@joelkavanagh1464
@joelkavanagh1464 3 роки тому
... great m.wright fAN mya-sulf! ....
@nemo1716
@nemo1716 Рік тому
I've never left so many replies on a single video, but the state of these commenters is just appalling. We have proselytizers, nationalists, flat-earthers, science dissenters, and legitimately unintelligible people all in one place fighting against ground-breaking discovery.....and I just don't get it. I truly believe critical thinkers are the most marginalized group of people today, and that's harrowing.
@piratessalyx7871
@piratessalyx7871 9 місяців тому
Just look who the maggot multitudes put in for president and want the same psychopath again....I dont get it. Education needs to be,put at the forefront and pronto
@MariaSanchez-ik7rf
@MariaSanchez-ik7rf 3 роки тому
uotation Explorer - 'O' They are ill discoverers that think there is no land, when they can see nothing but sea. - Sir Francis Bacon If I could just capture each memory in a bottle the maybe you people would understand how much I've suffered, how much I've been through, but most importantly how far I have come. - Tommy Tran God wants to lead you to places you cannot get to without Him, and He does that by the power of His Spirit. He can bring you into the realm of the miraculous-not as a show, but as a demonstration of His love
@gocedelcev8354
@gocedelcev8354 Рік тому
the devil is in the digital
@elvirredzepovic6898
@elvirredzepovic6898 2 роки тому
16 minutes into the video not a single mention of Antikythera Mechanism so I blocked the channel from my feed.
@piratessalyx7871
@piratessalyx7871 9 місяців тому
Lame, why leave a lame remark.....the question and answer period had more..
@alainportant6412
@alainportant6412 2 місяці тому
24:00 skip the BS
@alainportant6412
@alainportant6412 2 місяці тому
24:00 skip the BS
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath 2 роки тому
She seems to be unaware of the order of her slide presentation. If white male Michael Wright had done that there would be countless negative comments pointing it out but all you cowards are scared to say anything about this woman’s shortcomings. She can take it. you’re insulting her by acting like she can’t take criticism because she’s a woman.
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