Shimano Di2 Wireless Module Config Update: ANT+ | Bluetooth // Save Battery

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Shane Miller - GPLama

Shane Miller - GPLama

4 роки тому

An update from Shimano appeared recently in the App Store with a new configuration option for anyone using their Di2 Wireless Module. This new option allows you to select which wireless protocol is broadcast (ANT+/Bluetooth). Shimano state switching off the unused channels will save battery. Please remember to click SUBSCRIBE to support this UKposts channel: goo.gl/QS5YZg
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 89
@williamtaylor5899
@williamtaylor5899 2 місяці тому
This I think may solve my connectivity issue with my Garmin Head Unit. Your pages showed me how to do it all. Thank you.
@AmsterDanTheAmerican
@AmsterDanTheAmerican 4 роки тому
Nice touch with the Di2 sound effect at the end. Thanks for the video.
@i.am.waveguide
@i.am.waveguide 4 роки тому
Great tip Shane. I'm working with the Di2 configurations today!
@SB-eu2dv
@SB-eu2dv 3 роки тому
Nice! Someone could start an entire youtube channel dedicated solely to explaining Di2 systems. Shimano provides almost NO information (at least none readable by a layperson) on setup, function, alterations and modifications. Don't get me started on the "E-tube project" app. I've found many bits and bobs of information on youtube and in forums, but (unless you tell me otherwise) there is no single, organized site or channel with all the information in one place. Rant over. Thank you for providing another piece of the puzzle.
@yaaqobwilson4427
@yaaqobwilson4427 3 роки тому
Dude i’ve learned so much from you for my Domani SLR7 on how to connect my wahoo I’m so grateful for you thank you very much
@arikanami
@arikanami 2 роки тому
Following your video on my newly installed Di2 8050, using ANT+ mode only, after 150 Km ride, battery level is still 100% impressive...thank youuu sir 👍
@brianwillaman1776
@brianwillaman1776 4 роки тому
GREAT VIDEOS!!! Looking to upgrade to Shimano Di2 and your videos are a wealth of information. Keep up the fantastic work!
@corvus400
@corvus400 3 роки тому
Thanks for help!
@davidfinn9828
@davidfinn9828 3 роки тому
Great video, very informitave , have ordered di2 up grade for my s3 and had to pay postage 3 times as there is no information from shimano on up grading to di2 parts and what u will need , hope i can set it up ok or u will be getting more request for info 👍
@technocynic
@technocynic 4 роки тому
nothing wrong with the video but I had to hit like for the lama derailleur moves
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
Zzzzzzzzt. Zzzzt. ⚡️👍🏼
@Tchairdjian
@Tchairdjian 4 роки тому
Does the new Garmin Edge 530 not have the smart Bluetooth?
@travisjpowell
@travisjpowell 4 роки тому
I removed the bluetooth module after the iOS app crashed 5x in a row back last year. Maybe it is time to give them another chance
@nielst.3891
@nielst.3891 4 роки тому
Received yesterday updates for the Ultegra shifters...
@frankhesketh4903
@frankhesketh4903 2 роки тому
Hi Shane, useful video as always, thanks. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell whether my Di2 Wireless Module and my E-Project Android app are communicating with Ant+ or with Bluetooth. Thank you.
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
I’m taking a guess that E-TUBE only uses BLE.
@antonioalfaro9897
@antonioalfaro9897 3 роки тому
Very interesting information Shane. My BMC RoadMachine setup has Ultegra Di2 8050 groupset. In average my battery lasted 1200 to 1500 km, but it dramaticaly dropped to 300 to 400 km once I installed the EW-WU 111 module, so I gave up and decided to remove it. Now after some months looking here and there I found your usefull video, today I installed the EW-WU 111 module one more time, but setting ANT+ only. Hope this time I'll get battery lasting at least 1000 km.
@gplama
@gplama 3 роки тому
Be sure to update the firmware on all the Di2 components too. Keep me posted on the results of the battery life.
@ryant75
@ryant75 2 роки тому
Hello. Did it work? Sorry I'm late but going through battery drain issues now 😭
@peterjames-martin629
@peterjames-martin629 2 роки тому
Thank you, excellent presentation. A pity that Shimano relies on third parties to unpack the product complexity.
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Shimano doesn’t rely on content creators like me. Shimano owners might. Which is nice.
@jimhansen5395
@jimhansen5395 4 роки тому
Hey Shane. So if I understand what you think you understand based on what Shimano has told us, there are three communication channels. First is ANT+ ( data ), second id Bluetooth (data), add the third is Bluetooth (management). And the channel you disabled in the video was Bluetooth (data). In theory, this should have no impact on the ANT+ ( data) to the head unit or the Bluetooth used to configure the system using a mobile device? Is there even a use case fur Bluetooth (data)? I could understand having this ability if there were a popular activity tracking phone app that recorded Di2 data ( i.e. if Strava for iPhone or Android let you connect to a EW-WU1111 to record shifting info or display current gear info.). To my knowledge no apps currently do this (do they?). Anyway, I don't use Bluetooth for data or management unless I'm updating the firmware oh the wireless module itself ( I believe it's still required for this ).
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
G'day Jim, 1 - Yes. That's my understanding after a few hours of testing things (and a fruitless search for technical documentation from Shimano on this configuration option. 2 - I'm not aware of anything that connects to Di2 over BLE for 'day to day usage data'. Maybe it's an EBike STEPS thing? Maybe there's something I haven't come across yet. 3 - Same. Button press on the junction enables BLE connection for management, that sill works with only ANT+ enabled for data.
@jimhansen5395
@jimhansen5395 4 роки тому
@@gplama um, I have a Shimano Steps E-bike in the family. The E-Tube Ride app that is supposed to display all kinds of useful information on you phone screen during a ride won't even connect...at ALL to either of my Android phones (Google Pixel.3a and OnePlus 6T) *Disclaimer: I haven't tried since the latest update.
@DiegoMorasilverfoxcr
@DiegoMorasilverfoxcr 3 роки тому
Hi Shane, Great info here. Question about connection with Garmin Edge 820. If you change the communication mode to just ANT+ on the Shimano EWWU111 is the Garmin still able to show me info about the gears and the function of the top buttoms on the lever shifter to pass the Garmin Edge screen left/right? (basically the question is, what is the communication protocol used by the sensor to connect to Garmin Edge). Other detail, when I go to connect the garmin to the EWWU111 i need to hit the button of the DI2 central unit for 0.5s, then go to the Edge 820 and look for sensors, then Shimano Di2 and hit CONNECT option there, otherwise it won't connect automatically even when the groupset is wake up or broadcasting as you mentioned. I recently changed my cellphone from LG Android to Huawei Android. I have another problem here, for some reason the Garmin stopped giving me info about text messages and notifications in general recieved on the by the phone, feature that used to work fine with the LG cell phone, but I'm able to connect my cell phone using Garmin Connect to the Garmin Edge and even use the LiveTracking feature to share real time location. Too much things here. Sorry. Regards from Costa Rica.
@gplama
@gplama 3 роки тому
EWWU111 to the 820 is over ANT. When paired, it'll connect once the system 'wakes up'. That'll be with the first gear change or a press of the junction box. RE: Notifications. I would remove the pairing from the phone and 820. Make sure the 820 is on the latest firmware. Re-pair the 820 to the phone and see how that goes.
@jimlombardo9046
@jimlombardo9046 4 роки тому
Is the wireless management stable now? I’ve been afraid to use it since most initial reports had an update bricking the DI2 system.
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
No issues with updating the firmware on the levers and RD the other day with the mobile app.
@WeiliangLau
@WeiliangLau 4 роки тому
Shane, i got the same TCR as yours, followed your steps. Your video ends with, it won’t be seen after di2 System goes to sleep. But mine stays visible on bluelight no matter what. ( i also put it on ANT only). Did you encountered the same or mine di2 just doesn’t go to sleep :S. Thanks
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
Make sure the firmware is updated. That's about all I can help with, without knowing more.
@WeiliangLau
@WeiliangLau 4 роки тому
Ok will check it again. Thanks! Love the videos, keep on posting
@bernardlinde
@bernardlinde 4 роки тому
After bricking my Di2 on the day I tried to do a firmware update right after installing my EW-WU111 (exactly like it happened with Shane) I am too scared to ever use this app again. Having the BT module inside the Giant Propel's notoriously tricky stem makes it a disaster to remove and reconnect the module if something goes wrong. Feel much safer doing it through the PC software even though that means dragging the bike to my office where my only Windows computer is. Once bitten, twice shy, I guess!
@mjscpr
@mjscpr 4 роки тому
Bernard Linde I also had the same issue you and Shane did, but after I had everything running again I've had no problems so far and I've upgraded the firmware of several components now separately.
@bernardlinde
@bernardlinde 4 роки тому
@@mjscpr Phew, that's good to know! Will give it a go.
@bernardlinde
@bernardlinde 4 роки тому
Finally got the courage and did my firmware update via Bluetooth and ALL GOOD!! 😁
@shanew634
@shanew634 3 роки тому
Bernard Linde This is a common issue which I also had with the wireless module. It’s due to a wireless module firmware upgrade which must mess up the BT connection. After using the cable to update the wireless module firmware, I had no further issues except when I forgot the code so had to use the PC / USB cable to reset it.😤
@marceicker6478
@marceicker6478 4 роки тому
I get my Ultimate CF SL Disc 8.0 Di2 soon and I have also bought WU111. I hope I can excchange the connector at the handle bar with WU111. But I am scared about how to make the update :-) Is it correct that it is only possible to make the firmware update to WU111 by bluetooth over the app ? Or is it possible to update wu111 also with the charger and PC ? Will it brick always or only while having bad luck ? I am not sure where canyon has installed the battery and how difficult it is to unplug the battery to recover the system ... Or is the issue solved and the device is not bricking any more ?
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
- You can install the wireless module anywhere. - I believe the wireless unit will only update over Bluetooth... I could be wrong. - When it asks to change the pin code, don't... or change it to the same code as it's using. The screw-up I believe is that it pairs to the phone with one security code, then 1/2 way into the update it asks to reset the code then doesn't update the phone pairing. Or something similar. It's never terminal.
@marceicker6478
@marceicker6478 4 роки тому
@@gplama Thanks for your quick reply :-) So, you think I should try without changing the code ... So I have to give it a try ... I have seen you also have a Canyon. Is it possible to open the frame from the bottom to have access to the cable to the battery to cut off the power ? But ince it happened it never happened again ... correct ? In general I like it more to update firmware wired - but if it is not possible the I need to try it with BT ...
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
Nope, I don't have a Canyon.
@cameronemery7553
@cameronemery7553 3 роки тому
In order for someone to change your gearing by connecting to it via bluetooth, wouldn't they have to know your pairing password? So it is secure even when broadcasting in bluetooth?
@gplama
@gplama 3 роки тому
The Bluetooth system management is passworded. BLE to a head unit for things like gearing display / battery information / D-Fly channels is unauthenticated... and from there, like ANT+, you can change gear modes (M, S1, S2). Not ideal. But nobody cares... so this is how it is.
@jensenhealey907efi
@jensenhealey907efi 4 роки тому
If you have one of these DI2 wireless connection modules, is there a way in the E-Tube project phone app to see the battery life remaining? I tried looking for this information when I use the SM-BCR1 battery charger and the E-Tube project software running on my Windows PC but I was not able to find this battery life info in the E-Tube project software for Windows. Did I miss something or is it not there?
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
Battery level pops up at 5:58 in this video within the E-Tube App. If you have the wireless module then you can view the Di2 battery level with a connected head unit too.
@jensenhealey907efi
@jensenhealey907efi 4 роки тому
@@gplama If you don't have the wireless module, is the battery life available in the E-Tube project software that runs on the PC that uses the connectivity of the SM-BCR1 plugged into the SM-EW90A ?
@andyharwood5244
@andyharwood5244 4 роки тому
@@jensenhealey907efi you get basic battery indicator from the junction box. hold shifter button and the light will stay solid green for charged, flash green for 50% and flash red for 25%.
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
@@jensenhealey907efi No idea sorry. I can't justify the price of the SM-BCR1
@SaltehBalleh
@SaltehBalleh 4 роки тому
@@gplama sm-bcr1 is the charger. You're thinking of sm-pce1;). (Hugs from di2c, love your stuff)
@rayekhoury
@rayekhoury 4 роки тому
Does the module work with di2 6870, 2nd generation?
@shanew634
@shanew634 3 роки тому
Yes but you need the 2nd generation battery; BT-DN110 (internal). This also enables the semi and full synchro modes on the 6870 series after a firmware update. I modified my Canyon Ultimate DI2 6870 series groupset.
@rg807
@rg807 3 роки тому
Shane, I just installed the ew (even worse experience than you had) and I don't see an option to turn off blue tooth broadcast. I'm in an android and everything is completely updated. This should be in the app, yes?
@gplama
@gplama 3 роки тому
I haven't checked the latest E-Tube Android app for options. If you have any IOS device (or Windows) try those and see if you can configure the wireless module as required.
@rg807
@rg807 3 роки тому
@@gplama thanks for the quick reply, I got it figured out. In a nutshell, the interface is totally different. The networking options are buried under the ew- component listing. Who knew? No one, because shimano didn't document anywhere. 😎
@Acyclistandhockeysnob
@Acyclistandhockeysnob 3 роки тому
So I just purchased this same unit and had it installed. It connects to my E-TUBE app on my IOS but my Wahoo ELEMNT Roam can't find it? IV tried connecting via the ELEMNT app and the Roam itself and it still doesn't find it. Any options? I've pushed all the buttons to wake it up and still nada.
@gplama
@gplama 3 роки тому
Check if ANT is enabled on the wireless module. That’s about all it needs. One for Wahoo support if you’re still stuck.
@Acyclistandhockeysnob
@Acyclistandhockeysnob 3 роки тому
Shane Miller - GPLama ok thx. Looks like I have to contact wahoo support since it's not working.🤬
@ryant75
@ryant75 2 роки тому
Man this is so confusing for me. Is this recommended if using a Garmin 530? Trying to save as much battery life as possible.
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Yep. The Edge 530 will connect to this via ANT.
@uneCENT
@uneCENT 3 роки тому
Shimano should add you to their payroll
@gplama
@gplama 3 роки тому
After my review and analysis of their power meter, I’m on their shitlist. I’m sure they’ll make a better power meter soon and it’ll all blow over.
@jonnynoblett
@jonnynoblett 4 роки тому
Any idea if the firmware update still causes issues?
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
People are still bricking things. Once that's happened (or not), then it's all smooth. I updated levers and RD firmware the other day no problems with the E-Tube App.
@jonnynoblett
@jonnynoblett 4 роки тому
@@gplama I had to buy a $200 unit to unlock my battery which isn't a good thing to do as no Shimano Sevice Centre near by
@thomasklarmann6502
@thomasklarmann6502 3 роки тому
Any chance to reset the ew-wu111 code (6 letters)? I've bought one second hand and can't login to the app / etube 😬
@gplama
@gplama 3 роки тому
You'll need to do this via the E-Tube PC application using the PassKey initialization option. You'll need to use the battery charger or PC link device to connect this up.
@Tchairdjian
@Tchairdjian 4 роки тому
Also I don’t understand how we can turn off Bluetooth broadcasts on the WU111 and then expect to access it for management purposes. It the same chip. If it’s off, it’s off. Are you saying that when we press the button on the RS910 unit it also turns on the Bluetooth on the WU111?
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
That’s what their ‘kind of’ documentation states.
@shanew634
@shanew634 3 роки тому
Dick Tchairdjian It definitely works as I double checked my settings were Ant only tonight using BT and the Android e-tube app.
@zizsatria5921
@zizsatria5921 2 роки тому
my di2 battery drain so fast after i workout using smart trainer? do u know what happen? it can run out in 1 day.
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
This shouldn't happen. First check for firmware updates. Next, contact Shimano. There was a recent issue with their E-Tube software not correctly disconnecting from the Di2 system if it was used that caused excess battery drain, but you don't need to connect this to use a smart trainer.
@zizsatria5921
@zizsatria5921 2 роки тому
@@gplama i was thinking that maybe it is because the RD misadjusment with the new sprocket from my wahoo kickr, bcause my old sprocket in my wheelset is 11-34 and the wahookickr sprocket is 11-28. And then i change it, but it still not worked, my battery drain out in 1 day again. And when i see this video, i think what if it because the ant + ble broadcast? so i try tu turn of one of them, and wait to see wht happen tomorrow
@ryant75
@ryant75 2 роки тому
Hello was it your derailleur limit setting?
@bogdanpop2110
@bogdanpop2110 6 місяців тому
Hello, I cannot connect this shimano wireless di2 system to the shimano dura ace 9050 system. After I connect the system, it becomes non-functional! Can you please help me with a suggestion? Thank you.
@gplama
@gplama 6 місяців тому
That’s best for Shimano support to assist with.
@bogdanpop2110
@bogdanpop2110 6 місяців тому
Unfortunately they are not compatible.
@bnj2669
@bnj2669 3 роки тому
I’m not able to get find the e-tube project app in the App Store 😑
@gplama
@gplama 3 роки тому
apps.apple.com/au/app/e-tube-project/id1176407871 This should redirect to your region App Store
@bnj2669
@bnj2669 3 роки тому
@@gplama thank you for the reply.. but the app is not available in my region. Extremely weird
@markrees6792
@markrees6792 4 роки тому
Just did this and now my phone is not picking up the wireless unit at all so I can't link the wireless unit with my phone and the etube app.
@markrees6792
@markrees6792 4 роки тому
Had to connect my bike to the laptop and turn ant+/Bluetooth back on. Now I can connect via my phone using the app again. So not working as it should as turning the Bluetooth off does impact the etube app and your ability to link with your phone 😢
@sergioaguire7963
@sergioaguire7963 3 роки тому
I have problems pairing, the Bluetooth LE was interrupted,
@gplama
@gplama 3 роки тому
One for Shimano Support.
@sergioaguire7963
@sergioaguire7963 3 роки тому
@@gplama fix it Thank you watching one of your videos
@michelclement8574
@michelclement8574 4 роки тому
Boy am I glad I went mechanical.
@gplama
@gplama 4 роки тому
There's pros and cons. Even within the electronic groupset options people are fighting over wires vs wireless.
@helenHTID
@helenHTID 4 роки тому
The system seemed a great idea when I purchased it, But it soon made me realise how much I missed my saint shifter with the ability to dump gears at a moments notice and have more control over my usage... Without any apps or batteries to deal with.
@WFO211
@WFO211 4 роки тому
I would never ho back to mechanical. DI2 works, and works well.
@phxrsx
@phxrsx 4 роки тому
No wonder my bike with the Eww01 died way faster than my other bike without it.
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