Shimano Dura-Ace Vs Shimano Ultegra | What's The Difference?

6 років тому

According to Shimano themselves, the new Ultegra groupset is so close to the company's flagship Dura-Ace groupset as to be basically indistinguishable in terms of performance. So, what do you actually get with a Dura-Ace groupset for your extra money?
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If we were blindfolded and put on two bikes, one with Shimano Dura-Ace and one with Ultegra, we'd struggle to tell the difference between them, that's how good the new Ultegra is. Of course we'd also crash...
Dan did a deep dive into the technical specs, and weights of the two groupsets to find out what actually is the difference between them.
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@Malandirix 6 років тому

For a sponsored video, this seems rather consumer friendly. Good job GCN.

@pablogubert 6 років тому

In sum, don’t waste your money in a Dura-Ace groupset. Buy it only if sponsored

@nickb3720 6 років тому

Shimano clearly thinks they'll make more money if you buy ultegra haha

@rickf4401 6 років тому

Malandirix , very well-stated comment!

@jimiefoxx 6 років тому

Well only if Shimano would rather sells more ultegra than dura-ace.

@chizhang001001 4 роки тому

Shimano do not need ads for selling their groupsets, shitty SRAM and Campy does the ads for them

@Ironboar286 5 років тому

Just wanted to say thank you for the informative videos. As someone who is transitioning from running to cycling these have been helpful. Cardio has been an important part of my life and with two hip surgeries I can no longer run. The GCN has been a great deal of help to me deciding on what I need to look at and consider. Thank you again!

@SlowBoyAthlete 6 років тому

I've deeply looked into DuraAce v Ultegra in the past year, including the description of the Shimano specification charts. There are some design differences in the cable STI levers with DuraAce being a pivot bearing system. In my opinion, it is a better mechanical design than the lesser groups. The rim brakes are pretty much only different in material composition to save weight which pretty much describes the whole difference between DuraAce and Ultegra. I also gather that the Ultegra cassette is more robust than duraAce due to its carbon fibre spider. Last fun piece of advice to help make your purchase choice... if you decide to buy DuraAce, don't ever let yourself be dropped by someone riding with Ultegra groupo. The shame of that is far heavier than the 500g between the two!

@rogersthilaire8179 6 років тому

Thanks Dan, well done clarity on purpose . Good stuff GCN as always

@mrfailure93 6 років тому

Love the detailed explanation, thanks again and happy easter

@AdamJStoryDC 6 років тому

That was the most interesting comparison between the two I've seen on the internet. I have Ultegra because I'm the Dura Ace was out of my price range. Always wanted DA for the bling-bling but thought that there couldn't be THAT much more performance difference. Now I know. Thank you GCN

@gcn 6 років тому

Cheers Adam, glad you found it informative.

@thisandthat1233 6 років тому

Dura ace is mostly for professionals and rich MAMILs. Amateur teams usually have ultegra.

@JustinDoesTriathlon 6 років тому

Right?! I thought that was fascinating. I knew they were very *close,* but I didn't expect the Shimano Product Manager to essentially say "functionally, they're identical." Very cool!

@davidturpin9135 6 років тому

When it came down to it, Ultegra DI2 cost about the same as DA Mechanical. So what is more bling for your money? For me it was the Ultegra DI2 and Synchroshift.

@Einhander49 6 років тому

Adam J. Story, DC theres no point in spending that much unless you can get sponsored or just have too much money.

@NoxiousNoodles 6 років тому

A thousand souls screamed when they saw you touching the disk brakes like that.

@evanoc12345678 6 років тому

shimano have realised that realistically not many folks have the funds to go buying Dura-Ace , so are trying to convince the people who would normally buy 105 to upgrade to Ultegra not getting Dura-Ace users to switch down , clever shimano

@bradbeining3341 6 років тому

Evan O'Connor probably

@ClassicalMMAChef 6 років тому

At this point they may be trying their best to protect their market share from SRAM given that etap gets better with every model

@evanoc12345678 6 років тому

dont think shimano really need to worry all that much , a huge majority of their sales and profits are in budget and sub-enthusiast level kit where they absolutely blow everything else out of the water , to be honest i dont think were going to see a real shake up in the market till the whole electronic thing really starts to trickle down. whoever can bring out a budget electronic groupo first will explode in popularity i reckon

@fcuenco 6 років тому

Yeah I feel into that trap. Ha ha but I did have 105 10 speed I think that was 5600. But I upgraded to the last ultegra 11 speed. But I run an 11-40t cassette in the rear.

@markevasion5769 6 років тому

done

@benstanden8784 6 років тому

Great video! I have Ultegra R8000, it's a step up from 6800. Love nerdy cycling component videos :)

@matthewho1053 6 років тому

Dura-Ace: for rich guys Ultegra: for others

@jollybee3432 4 роки тому

*cries in tourney~

@baharezo 4 роки тому

dura ace also gets a year in advantage . whenever there is something new, dura ace gets it first, the equivalent version of ultegra comes at least a year later, followed by 105 which may even take longer.

@antonhelsgaun 3 роки тому

Ultegra: for wealthy bois

@mantiq7768 3 роки тому

105 for others.. Or Tiagra to be honest for most

@antonhelsgaun 3 роки тому

@@mantiq7768 exactly

@elmoe01 6 років тому

When are they going to have a review of shimano tourney? It’s the best groupset so far since that is the only thing I have on my bike.

@cua7180 3 роки тому

Hahahaha ditto

@curtmosca1654 3 роки тому

They suck. Review conplete

@Bluesman2509 3 роки тому

Crap

@tonyboy120 3 роки тому

Tourney is almost lowest level in shimno

@katerinazhu6268 3 роки тому

tourney and claris reviews plz

@lloydranola 6 років тому

Damn GCN. Production value just went up a notch

@gcn 6 років тому

Cheers Lloydman!

@williamkeys5701 6 років тому

I've always gone for the 2nd tier group-sets (XT vs XTR, Ultegra vs Dura-Ace) as I've feel that the law of diminishing returns kicks in big time. Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

@HCMORGI 6 років тому

I just love that you are completely honest when it comes to paid promotions and ads. unlike most other bike channels that will even (presumably) lie to you in the comments. love your stuff, keep at it

@Schu-Fi 6 років тому

Thanks guys for this video! I was searching yesterday for something in this direction but I didn‘t find anything helpful like this :)

@gcn 6 років тому

Glad we could be of help Sandro!

@Phaidrus 6 років тому

Very informative, thanks Dan!

@polo4life90640 6 років тому

Good to know I have the Ultegra Groupset!!! Thanks for saving me from spending more money. You lot, are the best.

@fireroadie6654 6 років тому

I wish u guys would have looked closely at the hubs. Another great video 👍👍

@sportnation8885 6 років тому

really awaited video, but finally delivered by GCN

@oscarcaruso204 6 років тому

Honestly the most informative video you guys have ever produced!

@gcn 6 років тому

Thanks Oscar!

@BryenGraver 6 років тому

Agree with all the comments here, this was a fantastic dive into the difference on a consumer-friendly level. It's something I had a hunch on but that was a great look into the actual details. Thank you GCN! You are appreciated!

@gcn 6 років тому

Cheers Bryen!

@marcedwards6737 5 років тому

I really enjoyed this video. Presented very well

@osa12om 6 років тому

Thank you guys. Good info. Good job GCN

@bhumiriady 6 років тому

This is so amazing and interesting... I always thought that the Dura-Ace and the Ultegra are identical, until I discovered this video!

@backpacker3421 6 років тому

Since I'm not racing for cash, I did both my bikes in full Ultegra. The one exception is on the disc bike I put a DA rotor on purely for looks because at my source the price difference was tiny and the black temp fins look much better (IMO). Would have been nice to see the weight difference without the wheels - I don't know too many people running those wheels, but nearly everybody is running Shimano group sets otherwise. I seem to remember the difference being between 300 and 400 grams for mechanical.

@adrian.m258 5 років тому

Haha, I did exactly the same thing. The DA discs were actually at the same price as Ultegra when I bought them. The black discs look like something Batman would ride. :D

@paparabbi 5 років тому

Tip top feature Lloydy! Really interesting and informative - of course psychology is key too. While I now know that Ultegra (less weight) is so close to Dura Ace I would still want Dura Ace! I've just got to stop falling off the bike as much before I buy!

@johnandrews1998 6 років тому

Fairly balanced. I would like to see something similar between Campagnolo Chorus and Super Record or more interestingly, Super Record vs Dura Ace.

@DamianoZerneri 6 років тому

Man, such beautiful bikes you have in your shop

@happyjim8027 6 років тому

Excellent video, thank you. So helpful.

@todd.goslin6190 4 роки тому

You could’ve just said “weight” is the difference and saved us all.

@navymark 6 років тому

Another great video! What kinds of boots are you wearing?

@ClassicalMMAChef 6 років тому

Since when is the wheelset considered as part of the groupset?? If you take that away then the weight difference is marginal and the value of Dura Ace would be much less. This is a very misleading fact.

@zhen86 5 років тому

the hub.

@egonzalez4294 4 роки тому

I noticed, because ultegra is 2600 gram and dura ace 2400 gram (disc brake).

@sbaxter4207 4 роки тому

Saving weight it is more noticeable on the rims (rotational weight), when accelerating and braking for example.

@minuteman4199 6 років тому

That was interesting. I am never going to ride a dura ace, but I might upgrade from a 105 to an Ultegra. A video like this explaining the difference between 105 and Ultegra would be interesting.

@mehmd1913 6 років тому

Great video. I have the new Ultegra 8000 series on my Domane SLR 6 Di2 variant. Phenomenal. As close to Pro Level as one can get. For a non Pro cyclist like myself, this setup is more than I need... I'm sure the new 105's are great also, yet no Di2...

@marckealey7510 6 років тому

Ultegra is my go to group set as I simply dont need Dura Ace...probably dont even need Ultegra either

@michaelb1761 6 років тому

Same here

@rizkiyoist 6 років тому

Heck I don't 'need' bikes, I can just walk. But having one or a few would be nice so I do.

@rollinrat4850 5 років тому

Infidel Gastro Youd be surprised how far you can get on a fixed gear/ single speed. They are very efficient and a fixed gear gives you some extra inertia I think. The drawbacks most riders imagine are simply in their heads. You just need to decide youre going to ride one and do it. Its that simple. You put your mind to riding up a hill and give it a go. If you cant, walk to the top, try to get a little farther up next time. Most riders limit themselves with their minds. To be a better rider learn how to suffer. Push yourself beyond where you thought you could go. My go to bike is a fixed/ free CX bike. I ride it on rocky singletrack with medium length climbs.

@graham1034 5 років тому

@@rollinrat4850 Would just like to say that there is a world of difference between a simple single/fixed gear bike and a decent road bike. I generally commute on my fixie and it takes me about 35 minutes, the odd time I take my road bike it goes down to around 28 minutes.

@rollinrat4850 5 років тому

Graham X Not really much different in my mind. They both have 2 wheels that roll down the road. They both have chains and cranks that make you go. You may get there faster, but I have more fun and get a better workout!

@AvojEtc 6 років тому

I like the song in the intro!

@GNX157 6 років тому

Ultegra the way to go with the bigger cassette and cage plus the durace spider doesn't look cool like it did on the 9000. Also, doesn't the 9100 cassette still have creaking carbon spider problems?

@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1 6 років тому

I have both a full Dura Ace Di2 group set and 105. The only difference I like is the sound Di2 makes when changing gears (insert robotic zutt zutt noise) 😅😎... but seriously do prefer 105 for broader compatibility to climb and sprint.

@emilbaligod1935 6 років тому

SAF1981, on a slow and quiet grinding climb, my di2 will always get the attention with the “zutt zutt” noise. Webster has now, a new phrase to define.

@meluka2005 5 років тому

is a great information for me; congratulations guys.

@chillax498 6 років тому

nice vid.. been wondering about this..

@waynetravers6836 6 років тому

I think that Dura Ace is much more expensive not just because of the better materials used but more to do with the initial development costs, I mean every new development comes out first on Dura Ace then the technology is trickled down to Ultegra 105 etc so when buying Dura Ace your paying initially paying for the development and being first to get your hands on new tech.

@christschool 5 років тому

That would make sense if Dura-Ace were new, but those R&D costs have long paid for themselves. Incremental changes do not require big $ in R&D.

@hanswurst7727 6 років тому

I have a stock cervelo r2 with the already „old“ shimano 5800 105 groupset, the only upgrade i made are some nice vision carbon clinchers, just for the shiny looks. Even the 105 performs flawless, there is no need for anything else. I‘m thinking of installing the complete ultegra r8000 because it‘s new and shiny, but it‘s hard to justify. Nice and honest video gcn 👍🏻

@gcn 6 років тому

Thanks Hans!

@stuartdryer1352 6 років тому

I have Ultegra Di2 on my bike. Its performance is amazing. I couldn't imagine anything better, so it is good to know that impression is not too far off.

@podgebrowne 6 років тому

Go Ultegra, spend the difference on wheels, saddle, kit...

@adamlynch9153 4 роки тому

podgebrowne and women and boos 😂

@sesarman 4 роки тому

one could say the same about 105, i personally started researching dura ace, landed on ultegra and now leaning towards 105 🤣

@firstname7780 3 роки тому

You would not say that if you were one of those Ultegra owners that had their Hallowtech crank arm snap.....

@chumpapii 3 роки тому

@@firstname7780 fr? So that explains why I see a lot of cyclist have dura ace crank but the rest of the groupset is ultegra.

@victormonasterio3599 3 роки тому

This is really true. Snapped 2 ultegra crank arm in a span of 9 months 😆

@Kref3 3 роки тому

8:15 „About what button does what.“ THE top reason for me to love my Ultegra DI2. I programmed my right lever buttons to switch to heavier gears and my left lever buttons to go to easier gears, front button for front, back button for rear. That means that if I am on the drops, I can still from any position still reach at least the back button without reaching for it, so shifting the rear to a faster (right) or slower (left) gear is always possible. And you never have to think much: Right go faster, left go steeper.

@morethanyell 6 років тому

Hello Daniel Lloyd and team. I enjoyed this video that's why I gave it a like.

@soonloonglim2541 5 років тому

Daniel Astillero kiiivv mmnnmmm CV. . Nnnjkokjhh hi no NMl mk no Koo

@trabink2 6 років тому

I was under the impression that the grips on the levers is and feels better/different than Ultegra, inclusive the adjustment of the reach. I was considering Dura Ace shifters for that reason, feedback appreciated. Love your show!

@GZ7BaeGiJbo8 4 роки тому

Thanks for GCN, now I know I should purchase which one!

@nil2k 5 років тому

I wonder why I have to imagine the comparisons with the 105? seems like a good topic for a future video.

@sandrodiclemente2305 6 років тому

Thanks 4 doing this comparison. So many times people think they need to buy the most expensive, . But clearly u can buy affordable and get amazing performance for the price. Asking questions and watching the great and informative videos by gcn help cyclist to be informed and make smart buying choices for bikes. Thanks again. Marketing is such a deceptive thing, that and peer pressure to. " Get out their and ride"

@robbchastain3036 6 років тому

Thanks, Dan, I'll be watching this one a few times so I can pass the pop quiz. But why no nickel-plated cranks? I'm okay with stealth levers and rims, but I will happily confess to some vanity. I need that bling when I'm in the big ring. I'd have to take a rattle can of silver or gold to the chainset. And maybe I grin but I do prefer shiny components.

@badgerw7997 5 років тому

Excellent comparison. What I find interesting is that long distance cycle racers, even in the high level races like IndyPac and Transcontinental, use Ultegra throughout. Partly I imagine for the gear options on the cassette, but also Ive heard, for toughness? As they are a group of people more akin to 95% of riders (no team support, enless spares etc... so need reliability), Id choose what they buy! Ultegra.

@mjv1967 6 років тому

Shimano 105 R7000 will debut in June. Supposedly the 11 speed cassette will be backward compatible with 10-speed wheelsets. So if you want to upgrade your bike to Ultegra or Dura Ace, you can use a 105 cassette and still use your old wheels.

@jayegalle 3 роки тому

One of the best videos!! thanks

@gcn 3 роки тому

Glad you liked it :)

@EditioCastigata 6 років тому

Cassettes such as 12-28 are a DA-exclusive, as are chainring pairs like 54/42. The second lowest difference after 46/36, which in turn DA doesn't have.

@paulw5822 5 років тому

An interesting video and well executed, it would have been even better if you had mechanical Ultegra on a 3rd bike as a comparison?

@cookingconfessions 3 роки тому

Ultegra is my go-to-groupset. Although not bad 105 just isn't up to snuff and the difference in shifting performance is felt between 105 and Ultegra. When buying my new bike I was testing the two head to head. The 105 came in the color combination I really wanted, but I ended up going for the Ultegra version in more plain colors because I just did not like the feeling of shifting 105 and then going back to Ultegra and noticing a different feel and sound.

@perrytheplatypus8133 6 років тому

This is so so needed

@chaunceylock 4 роки тому

This is crazy honest. Props to Shimano for actually telling the truth about the functionality vs price

@baharezo 4 роки тому

Chauncey Lockwood the year of release is different. R9100 came out in mid 2016, and R8000 came out in mid-2017. if a new set of Dura Ace comes out this year, it will surely outperforms everything R8000 has, and Ultegra will have to wait til next year to get a new set that has equal functionality. R9100 is really getting "old" now, as the technology used on it is now pretty much being adapted even in R7000, which is released in 2018.

@vh7368 6 років тому

As to the disc rotors. How can the two rotors be functionally equivalent if the ultegra lacks the heat dissipating coating? Surely the Dura Ace ones perform better under high heat? Or why bother with the coating?

@naturalrestingface4909 4 роки тому

Back in 2000 I used Ultegra and Campag Chorus but things have moved on so much! No disc brakes unless you had a MTB and wheels were Mavic Helium or Zipp 404. Marco Pantani was alive and unwell and can you beat that battle between him and Armstrong in the mountains in the TDF in 1998...was it 1998? Drugs or no drugs that was great viewing! This video is nostalgic for me and I like it!...Get the Dura Ace if you can afford it and pull in a bit of overtime. It's your passion and you know you'll sleep better!

@VanDungLe2510 6 років тому

Holy ... At 5:45, Dan was holding the wheel at the disk brake (which can bend it), with bare hand !

@Deuteross 6 років тому

GCN (and GMBN) have the best promoted content on YT. Those videos are as viewer-friendly and satisfying to watch as any of their videos.

@chrishand8833 6 років тому

Deuteross girls

@alexamparo817 5 років тому

don’t forget gtn

@leewolfson1 5 років тому

When I bought my last road bike, a Trek Madone, about 8 years ago, I could have initially upgraded to Dura Ace from Ultegra, but since the bike was going to be used to do a cross country journey, I was informed that the choice of gearing would be restricted due the design of the Dura Ace derailleur. The gearing was already pretty limited on Ultegra compared to the 105 triple I had on my former bike, but to be further limited was not going to work. Even the Ultegra compact double proved to be a challenging setup for me, particularly in the Rockies, but I survived. Additionally, I went over the handlebars a few years ago and upon close inspection of the bike discovered I had bent a crank arm. A very expensive replacement! I can only imagine what a Dura Ace crank arm would have set me back. The Ultegra group has been flawless and I now realize how unnecessary the upgrade would have been.

@bondy284 5 років тому

Always 1st class reviews👍🇦🇺

@rockroll9473 5 років тому

Enjoyed the video.

@echtogammut 6 років тому

Great video. Even for those who purchase a Dura Ace build, it will eventually become part Ultegra when it comes time to replace the rear cassette. :) The new Ultegra shifters being the only ones with the adjustability is very interesting and I could see that being an important reason to choose Ultegra over Dura Ace.

@tomerttb 5 років тому

The big different between the group sets is the manufacturing location. Saving a lot when manufacturing in Malaysia vs Japan. Very small change in materials.

@BlackshawClan 6 років тому

good info, danke

@quagmyer7230 3 роки тому

Love the tool wall!!!

@knock0ut1981 6 років тому

the r8000 is so amazing (especially the rim Brakes) i don´t see a Point to upgrade to dura ace (until i am starting with races)

@reflectionsdetail 6 років тому

so I can use an Ultegra 11-32 cassette with my DA rear derailleur?

@danblekeberg2470 5 років тому

GCN, your videos are superior to all the other videos on bicycling.

@Keepinitreal61 6 років тому

Something to throw in the mix, wear rate, been told, don't know if a myth that more expensive wear faster. A veteran mate that used to TT against Tom Simpson said "loose the fat and you will fly" If I had the money though I would buy the best. I ride with 105 on my winter bike & its great & Sram force on my summer best, like chalk & cheese. Another thing if we ride just for fun do we need the best of the best, suppose its nice to have a bit of bling. Nice one Dan.

@siebelspaethjens 3 роки тому

Is there a difference in the breaking performance in relation to different material and machining?

@jomeldemdayo3636 5 років тому

Thanks GCN!

@alexandersedov125 6 років тому

hi, surprised you didnt look at the bearings... all bearings are not the same... in terms of performance this.must be one of the most important differences... would have been interesting to hear what the Shimano rep would have said on this point...

@legestrom 6 років тому

I always thought the difference between DA vs Ult was DA used ceramic bearings in their RD whereas Ult did not...

@TheMerckxProject 6 років тому

My next frame will very likely be titanium, and I intend to build it from the ground up. I am a 105 stalwart..but that seemed a little "low end" even for me. And it's not the high upfront cost of DA that turns me off either; it's the high long term upkeep cost. However, if as Dan alluded to, there may eventually be the same type of parity between 105 and Ultegra, then I may be able to justify going back and forth between 105 and Ultegra once I do build up my next bike. Particularly as cassettes, chains, and rings need replaced.

@jrldds90 6 років тому

Excellent comparison! What is the difference in expected lifespan and required maintenance between the two?

@zhen86 5 років тому

expected lifespan is similar for weekend warriors.

@tonydautovic2245 5 років тому

great video Dan. Ultegra is great but DA is supreme!! I have the Di2 with calliper brakes, sexy and smooth! 😂 the brake levers are a work of art. 👌

@ajussiwannabe 6 років тому

A great video...something I've already suspected and also been told by some seasoned riders when I was shopping for a road bike last year. I'd love to know how much bike component and frame manufacturers actually spend their $$$ on R&D, team sponsorship, and marketing. I have a sneaking suspicion that profits from ultra premium components pay for team sponsorship and marketing.

@juansuarez5154 4 роки тому

Heyyy, Campagnolo Super Record 12s vs Shimano Dura Ace 12s

@Exachad 6 років тому

The fact about the law of diminishing returns is true. Got a used TT bike with the entire 7900 Dura Ace groupset for $800.

@markstengel7680 4 роки тому

I enjoyed your Dura Ace vs Ultegra episode. Just ordered PD R8000 Ultegra pedals. The Dura Ace Chainring is most beautiful sexy looking. Well done vs presentation 🚲👍

@peterrent657 5 років тому

Xtr and xt comparison next please!

@SuperBacDoc 4 роки тому

Peter Rent, yes but you probably know the basics, XT almost identical performance and slightly heavier than XTR. I haven’t tried the new 12 speed but the 11speed groups were very close, maybe slightly better braking with XTR but not enough to be obvious. Shifting was almost identical IMO.

@RixterNow 6 років тому

Are the new generation chainrings backwards compatible with the previous generation 4-spoke cranks?

@jakecoffey8103 6 років тому

Where is the little tank for the hydraulic fluid on the di2 shifters?

@878787GH 4 роки тому

seriously, it has to be somewhere, right??

@Kleyguy7 5 років тому

Is it possible to make electronic shifters switch automatically according to cadence? Maybe it wont be practical but interesting for sure.

@MegaLJ3 4 роки тому

Nice presentation.

@nawani99 4 роки тому

What about the Campagnolo Potenza 11 groupset. How does it compare with the Ultegra?

@lewis72 5 років тому

I've (also) got full 600 Ex on a 1985 Raleigh Road Ace.

@halsywang 4 роки тому

Was struggling between these two but now I think I am pretty clear :)

@weichentechnikk8083 4 роки тому

one of the better type of struggles :)

@RLPphotography98 6 років тому

Can we now have a comparison between Campagnolo Chorus and Potenza?

@kirklawrence4715 5 років тому

I enjoy the videos but I'd like to get information about durability. It seems to me that durability should be a significant of a consumers purchasing concerns.

@kelvinkong5147 3 роки тому

The shimano 11 spd mechanical shifters seem to be designed to fail at some point, either in a clash(bracket body can't even withstand small impacts) or due to weak flimsy springs and soft plastic used in the internal mech.

@johnalves2765 6 років тому

I realize that Shimano is your sponsors but a interesting video would be the difference between Durable Ace and Campy Super Record

@mseather1337 6 років тому

Would a RD-9070 rear derailleur work with the new 11-30 cassette?

@aidenworth8186 6 років тому

I just want a new 105 groupset. Needing a long cage and new cranks and don't want to buy the old model. Please have there be a Di2 model!

@jesuscruz836 6 років тому

Can you do the same for Chorus, Record and/or Super Record?

@chriscoppersmith7762 6 років тому

I have not watched the review yet, but I just wanted to say that I have had the 11-speed Ultegra Di2 on my bike for over 33,000 miles now (I ride a LOT), and not one single thing ever has gone wrong with it, except that the rubber brake hoods are good and worn. I let he battery get low 3 times over all those miles, which limited my shifting exclusively to the tear derailleur. I never ran completely out of battery charge.