Shinkansen vs TGV - Is One Better Than the Other?

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Curious Droid

Curious Droid

4 роки тому

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The Japanese shinkansen or bullet train and the TGV from France are the original high-speed rail trains and although they provide a similar service they are quite distinct in their own right and yet they have a common starting point but is possible to say if one better than the other.
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@yuukih134
@yuukih134 3 роки тому
I am Japanese. I'm very honored to be compared in this way to the TGV, the French bullet train. Cheers to the technology in both countries!
@yuukih134
@yuukih134 3 роки тому
こんにちは! 僕はまだ高校生なので英語が拙いかもしれません。読みづらかったらすみません Hello! I'm still a high school student, so I'm not good at English, I'm sorry.
@tanbarua242
@tanbarua242 3 роки тому
Japanese railway is the most efficient railway system in the world.
@NPJGlobal
@NPJGlobal 3 роки тому
Arigato Yuuki H! I'm glad about the mutual respect and admiration in both our countries. Much love from northern France!
@misosupe
@misosupe 3 роки тому
僕も日本人です。
@hrk9209
@hrk9209 3 роки тому
Same for me, I am Japanese but I am mostly native from the State of Alaska in the United States and I live in Alaska. But still I like Japanese.
@attackhelicopter3860
@attackhelicopter3860 4 роки тому
Meanwhile in Romania there's a news article that says: ''Last year the total delay time of trains summed up to 8 years''
@VersusARCH
@VersusARCH 4 роки тому
Still, you made electric locomotives of your own during Ceauscescu years at Electroputere Craiova - not an insignificant achievment. Some are still running including here in Serbia.
@nottoday3817
@nottoday3817 4 роки тому
@@VersusARCH 'Made'. Important notice. I fear, the most ridiculous reason why we don't have high speed trains though is that the tracks would get stolen. :))) That and the ticket price. I mean even for the 'fast trains' at an average speed of around 70kph from Bucharest to my town (60kms) in around 40 minutes to an hour we pay quite a lot in our money. Around 3 euros per ticket. If you plan to commute that's 6 euros per day. Train passes are a great options, but still not very cheap. And last, but not least reason is the incentive to build such a line. Here, in the last decades, the country has divided into a few major centers. Bucharest, Constanta, Iasi, Suceava, Timisoara, Cluj-Napoca and Craiova. Frankly speaking, they are at the ends of the country except Bucharest and Cluj, which are more central. Being economic centers and quite far apart there is not such need for small business men to travel between them and the big ones can just pick a plane from the airports as we have some decent low-cost companies. Basically, the only people that would travel between those centers are students. Or tourists. But they usually travel only in summer or winter.This reminds me about a thing regarding the price. Here, a few years ago, students received free pass on the trains. (quite a smart move). Now they want to take that away after which people started to insult us saying those passes would be used just for getting drunk at the seaside. This prompted me to calculate how much would train fares actually cost for such a trip. I realised something quite surprising. If we were to travel on the inter-city trains (as you would expect on a normal european country), it would be much cheaper (and time efficient, perhaps the only country where one could say that) to travel by plane. TO FUCKING ROME. So no old lady. If you will take away my train pass, I won't get drunk at the sea, since it would be much cheaper to get drunk in a European capital. What you take away is the possibility to get a decent summer job
@user-vh1wg1ns2b
@user-vh1wg1ns2b 4 роки тому
@Orlando Rotundo that is, if the trains are not getting cancelled
@tekkenfan01
@tekkenfan01 3 роки тому
USA always on time
@PhilippeLarcher
@PhilippeLarcher 3 роки тому
try sicily XD
@noy1009
@noy1009 3 роки тому
as a french person i can say for a fact france and japan always have admired each other, and i can tell u thats still the case nowadays, the tgv and the shinkansen are both amazing trains and to be honest i couldnt tell which one is better! Cheers from france and hi to all the japanese ppl ^^
@michelveraliot
@michelveraliot 2 роки тому
Ils sont tout les 2 mangnifique et avec le nouveau tgv on aura peux être notre shinkansen :)
@ogamiitto8627
@ogamiitto8627 2 роки тому
Je suis Français et pour avoir emprunté le Shinkansen, il faut bien avouer qu'il est encore plus impressionnant que notre TGV. Plus confortable, plus de place, plus modulable (les sièges se retournent à destination pour permettre au train de repartir très vite dans l'autre sens) ponctualité à la seconde près, fréquence, propreté, qualité de service à bord et dans les gares... Extraordinaire.
@lieutenant6894
@lieutenant6894 2 роки тому
How much french like indians 😃
@Yep6803
@Yep6803 2 роки тому
don't forget Frecciarossa 1000
@MrMaximino92
@MrMaximino92 2 роки тому
As mentioned in the video, none of them is better than the other.
@microdubber
@microdubber 4 роки тому
Shinkansen has a perfect safety record since the early 1960s. This is a source of great pride for the Japanese.
@michaelbujaki2462
@michaelbujaki2462 3 роки тому
Nearly perfect. One of them derailed in an earthquake and the other derailed for reasons not mentioned.
@andropahsa3904
@andropahsa3904 3 роки тому
@@michaelbujaki2462 still, Zero fatality
@mazda_CX-30
@mazda_CX-30 3 роки тому
I am very happy as a Japanese! Thank you!
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 3 роки тому
@@andropahsa3904 One passenger was killed by a closing door I heard but I believe the operator was cleared of blame
@Windows98R
@Windows98R 3 роки тому
Zhi Han Lee I guess it’s 0 fatality in terms of live operations (IE: derailing, fire, blowing up etc)
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs 3 роки тому
France: Builds automated trains that go at 300+ km/h on regular duty Japan: Building Maglev trains that'll go 500+ km/h and be in regular service by 2027 Germany: Changes definition of delay to increase punctuality rates
@Yep6803
@Yep6803 2 роки тому
Italy: we built the same thing of France e nobody know it!
@unepintade
@unepintade Рік тому
@@Yep6803 I mean you're using french trains
@uglyduckling81
@uglyduckling81 4 роки тому
You forgot to mention Australia's high speed trains. Huge flat country. Melbourne to Sydney is around 720km, each city approx 5m people. Our trains make this journey in only 11hrs. An extraordinary average speed of 65km/hr. Plus is only costs about 1.5x more than the 1hr flight. Unforgivable oversight really.
@tepidtuna7450
@tepidtuna7450 4 роки тому
Maaaate, but wait there's more. With every passing review of HST viability you get a free set of political parties and an election.
@rocketman4315
@rocketman4315 4 роки тому
😂
@del7723
@del7723 4 роки тому
I guess the Australians dont give a fck about our environment. There is nothing more harmful then travelling by plane.
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 4 роки тому
Del Try steam locomotives with coal boilers.
@Tiger351
@Tiger351 4 роки тому
If you're talking about the XPT it's not terribly impressive compared to these things, highest top speed it hit was 182 km/h and that was on a closed newly rebuilt section of track between Dubbo and Orange NSW when it was new in 1982. Given how bad the rail network is after privatisation and how old they are now you'll never see those sorts of speeds out of the old girls ever again.
@d00mch1ld
@d00mch1ld 4 роки тому
The French really know how to build a train. But man... The Japanese ones look like spaceships.
@chrissmith7259
@chrissmith7259 4 роки тому
The Japanese know how to run them. Always on time.
@BJBorah3
@BJBorah3 4 роки тому
The Japanese are the best in everything
@Rentta
@Rentta 4 роки тому
@@BJBorah3 Especially denying war crimes
@BJBorah3
@BJBorah3 4 роки тому
@@Rentta Really??? Tell me one crime that Modern Japan did. For your kind information, everyone knows that Imperial Japan committed horrible crimes and that country is nowhere available in any modern Map.
@bobduvar
@bobduvar 4 роки тому
@@BJBorah3 Even in killing whales !!!
@RFGfotografie
@RFGfotografie 4 роки тому
I've been on the TGV once. And it's so freaking stable/comfy. I could even photograph the sunset in northern France while it was going 300 kph (if not faster) without any effort at all.
@davidarundel6187
@davidarundel6187 3 роки тому
Once at speed, it seems effortless, reaching those speeds, listen to the electric motors powering up - even a subway, has the power up noise plus inertial force, as it speeds up, or, slows down.
@PaliAha
@PaliAha Рік тому
What a genius comment as if that couldn't be done on others.
@metalblind95
@metalblind95 Рік тому
@@PaliAhayou again! What a mean little person you are, jealousy is ugly
@NiPaVou
@NiPaVou 4 роки тому
Thanks for using the metric system. Makes things so much easier to understand
@Tomek1001
@Tomek1001 4 роки тому
kph ? Kilo per hour = 1000 per hour. 1000 of what, bananas, apples? THE UNIT IS METER!!! Km/h is the corect writing: Allways remember to write what unit your are using!
@DrWhom
@DrWhom 4 роки тому
quarter pounder with cheese
@youliahadzhidimova5260
@youliahadzhidimova5260 4 роки тому
@@Tomek1001 It's Kelvins per hour.
@Delibro
@Delibro 4 роки тому
@@Tomek1001 Yes, its km/h - why the hell this is so difficult to understand? Why randomly create new abbreviations, if there is an existing one that the whole world uses since many decades and that fit in a system that is much larger than only velocity.
@TheEgg185
@TheEgg185 4 роки тому
Nooooooooo. 🇺🇸
@tarikja
@tarikja 4 роки тому
5:29 Damn dude, get behind the railing! 😰
@serviamserviam4618
@serviamserviam4618 4 роки тому
no fatal accident indeed :P
@Vamp898
@Vamp898 4 роки тому
@@serviamserviam4618 #Skills
@---iv5gj
@---iv5gj 4 роки тому
@@solarsatan9000 you don't say
@_yourfavoritedad3874
@_yourfavoritedad3874 4 роки тому
@@solarsatan9000 r/woooosh
@k4rtus1k
@k4rtus1k 4 роки тому
@Brain Strain ye no shit
@kevinkim271
@kevinkim271 4 роки тому
Having experienced both, I'm going to say the shinkansen beats out the TGV. We don't even need to discuss the technological systems of either trains. Just the Japanese standard of service and punctuality alone is unmatched.
@jonpetter8921
@jonpetter8921 4 роки тому
Like the video said no one is better. The TGV is good for french need while the Shinkansens is good for japanese need.
@cat5636
@cat5636 3 роки тому
I've been on both as well and I must say I prefer the TGV because of it's interior. I find it more comfortable, cosier and more beautiful than the Shinkansen. But that's just my opinion of course 😊 But indeed, in terms of service and punctuality nothing beats the Shinkansen
@josfitz
@josfitz 3 роки тому
I agree with Jon. That said, the point of this video is around speed. I believe the French have mastered speed with their AGV but I could be wrong. Actually, l may have been wrong. Someone informed me of a newer Japanese Maglev train that is 600 KM per hour. That's really fast.
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 3 роки тому
@狐猫 very true, France has the advantage of space, although not all of France is flat there's still enough room to route rail lines with speed in mind, Japan's narrower geography and dense cities mean it's harder to put down a route without slopes or demolishing important buildings. I think Japan's accomplishment is astounding.
@Brtt4849
@Brtt4849 3 роки тому
@@jonpetter8921 true we all have our traits yes and we like them
@BobSayG
@BobSayG 4 роки тому
I am Japanese and what I love about Shinkansen is the whole experience. Going to station, get regional Bento lunch box and sweets etc and get on the train and enjoy the view in comfort. Caught some trains in Europe as well but it felt it’s just a way to get point A to point B. Sure, there are faster trains than Shinkansen but I don’t think Shinkansen needs to compete with others with speed because it already exists as Shinkansen experience package.
@josfitz
@josfitz 3 роки тому
If you are going to talk food, I prefer Chinese trains where you can order from the very best restaurants and have it delivered directly to the train.
@M_Julian_TSP
@M_Julian_TSP 3 роки тому
The aim of the TGV is to transport the people, not to stroll and amuse the rich.
@josfitz
@josfitz 3 роки тому
I think Chinese trains are just as fast if not faster. Please excuse me for being a wealthy United States WASP. I like AGV when in France and I like the bullet train in Japan. See Bob's comment above. I love a good bento box as well. The last time I ate in the Ritz Paris the bill was close to $500 per person and worth every penny. Comparisons are odious. What you may opine is highly subjective and matters not a whit to me when you're rude and haughty. Have a nice day.
@duckmeat4674
@duckmeat4674 3 роки тому
@@josfitz chinese trains are faster....but the delays means it doesnt matter how fast they are
@jonaskemper5348
@jonaskemper5348 3 роки тому
Yes, you are right.
@CuriousDroid
@CuriousDroid 4 роки тому
Apologies for the re-upload, this was due to an error which I hadn't noticed until after it was live.
@kylebishop6233
@kylebishop6233 4 роки тому
What was the error?
@Eric_the_Hiking
@Eric_the_Hiking 4 роки тому
Oh my TVG one five, oh oh, TVG one five
@dogownrpenna
@dogownrpenna 4 роки тому
Carry on good sir
@cobeer1768
@cobeer1768 4 роки тому
Hey, It doesnt matter. I love your content. Its too good to not click when I see your notifications. Its an instant click. I hope you find the backing to send more to us. I *might* be biased but your work is great.
@amphibiousone7972
@amphibiousone7972 4 роки тому
Your content is of very high quality.
@nbarrett100
@nbarrett100 4 роки тому
The actual experience of being a passenger on the Shinkansen is incredible. In terms of comfort, space, frequency and efficiency it's a million miles ahead of everything
@AlohaBiatch
@AlohaBiatch 4 роки тому
100% agreed. I've ridden both the TGV and Shinkansen over 6 times each and the Shinkansen is miles ahead in most aspects: -leg room is massive (on TGV a lot of the cars make you face strangers and play footsie with them) -Being able to rotate seats to the direction it's heading helps immensely with comfort even if you're not prone to motion sickness -Ride is a lot smoother , I wouldn't want to leave an open bottle on the table in a TGV -trains are a lot cleaner inside -loads of toilets and sinks onboard -very little delays because of the dedicated tracks The main disadvantage of the Shinkansen is that it rides on dedicated tracks only so going to smaller cities with it is difficult. But that's also what makes it so reliable and means it can have a high operating speed and safety .
@georgew2014
@georgew2014 4 роки тому
Agreed. I've ridden the Tokyo-Kyoto route.
@socks_cat356
@socks_cat356 4 роки тому
The recent Shinkansen is scheduled to depart every five minutes.The next generation of Shinkansen will be operational at 360km/h.
@rizkyfajarfarhansyah3847
@rizkyfajarfarhansyah3847 4 роки тому
How about noise? Is it loud in shinkansen?
@socks_cat356
@socks_cat356 4 роки тому
It is a speed improvement test run of 360km / h of shinkansen of the form that exists. It's almost the same as before, and it doesn't seem to feel much shaking or sound. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/mmeVpLBtoqN3zWQ.html This new Shinkansen is said to be a test run at 400(390)km/h. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/o6p2l56fm4aY2XU.html
@danielarias9047
@danielarias9047 4 роки тому
Why compare ? The reason why in France we choose the TGV is we want a train that can use classic rails and not only TGV rails. So the TGV can go in high speed on TGV rails, but also slower on classic existing rail network. The context of the technolgy choice its important. France had a huge train network before TGV.
@mogaman28
@mogaman28 4 роки тому
Son of spanish inmigrants? I always thought that it was ironic that one of the most famous french person of the world is also of spanish origins, Jean Reno. Also shinkansen is more sexy than the tgv or ave trains. I rode in all of them.
@danielarias9047
@danielarias9047 4 роки тому
@Pedro DLR Now its all business. Our classic trains are retarder for 5 to 10 hours sometimes for a travel of 4 hours when all runs good. Its the magic of capitalism destroy all where they invest.
@snorktorsk3434
@snorktorsk3434 4 роки тому
The Shinkansen can travel only on its own network because it's standard gauge, while the rest of the network is narrow gauge. Intermixing the traffic was never an option.
@DrWhom
@DrWhom 4 роки тому
TERGV!
@louplibre9734
@louplibre9734 4 роки тому
@@danielarias9047 Il ne faut pas exagéré et ne pas blâmer le capitalisme à tout-va.
@wertrocks123
@wertrocks123 4 роки тому
For me, that original orange TGV is the sexiest of the lot. Man, what a beautiful machine
@kefsound
@kefsound 3 роки тому
Nothing compared to the Shinkansen
@unemusiqueunjour
@unemusiqueunjour 3 роки тому
@@kefsound TGV beat maglev Shinkansen. Not on regularity but on every technological aspects.
@juryota1174
@juryota1174 3 роки тому
@@unemusiqueunjour idk man i think the shinkansen is better
@NPJGlobal
@NPJGlobal 3 роки тому
@@juryota1174 that's like, your opinion dude
@FoxMonkey-xw5yf
@FoxMonkey-xw5yf 3 роки тому
I agree it just looks amazing!
@Obiterarbiter
@Obiterarbiter 4 роки тому
The Japanese shinkansen is in a league of its own. It's impeccable timetable, aesthetic and courtesy of staff make it the best HSR network in the world.
@Baamthe25th
@Baamthe25th 4 роки тому
You're comparing staff/customer service here, not the train themselves
@DirtyRobot
@DirtyRobot 4 роки тому
They have aircon smoking rooms and vending machines. I even went on one Shinkansen that had a meeting room. Like huge central table surrounded by 20 executive chairs with the previous carriage having ridiculous leather train seats that would blow away most 1st class airline facilities.
@KyrilPG
@KyrilPG 4 роки тому
@@DirtyRobot TGV and ICE have AC too. Don't know for the ICE but TGVs have meeting rooms too on select destinations but they are smaller.
@KyrilPG
@KyrilPG 4 роки тому
As for the service I prefer the ICE, for the machine itself I prefer TGV and for timetable reliability it's Shinkansen.
@lucastaiano2836
@lucastaiano2836 4 роки тому
Like he said two different trains for different geographical areas and purposes, i think that the TGV looks a lot Better and the japanese counterpart Is a hell of a lot caster
@fosterfuchs
@fosterfuchs 4 роки тому
The Shinkansen isn't just amazing with regards to the train technology. It's also the frequency of service. These trains run every 15-20 minutes. It's like a municipal commuter train network, except long distance at a high rate of speed.
@user-eg1ug3oe2q
@user-eg1ug3oe2q 4 роки тому
In addition, the Tokaido Shinkansen runs every 3~7min in the daytime...
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 3 роки тому
Comes more often than my city bus! yeesh.
@hamanakohamaneko7028
@hamanakohamaneko7028 3 роки тому
Even if it's frequent, every 3 minutes, the peak season will always be a nightmare. (Very crowded)
@hamanakohamaneko7028
@hamanakohamaneko7028 3 роки тому
Isamu Dyson true, but I use Kodama haha
@theTHwa3tes11
@theTHwa3tes11 3 роки тому
@@IsamuDyson The Nozomi Shinkansen is the only Shinkansen that doesn't accept JR Pass.
@CozminVasile
@CozminVasile 4 роки тому
Here, in Romania, speed trains date back in the roman empire era and we use the same machinery still!! So not only you get a historical ride, with no more than 50 km/h, in straight line, downhill, but you also experience how our ancestors used to commute, in the very same conditions! It's an unique way of torture nevertheless!
@hemprope4326
@hemprope4326 4 роки тому
Trains were invented in the 1800s. Rome was long gone by then
@optimusmagnetar5012
@optimusmagnetar5012 4 роки тому
@@hemprope4326 r/Woooosh
@person.X.
@person.X. 4 роки тому
@@hemprope4326 I rather enjoy Cozmin Vasile's sense of humour.
@khalid6050ify
@khalid6050ify 4 роки тому
@@hemprope4326 only Donkey cart🤣He is right.
@CozminVasile
@CozminVasile 3 роки тому
One can't be sarcastic anymore...
@DJAYPAZ
@DJAYPAZ 4 роки тому
For those of us who ridden the "Shinkansen" it reaaly is in a class of it's own. I rode the Nozomi Super Express from Tokyo to Hiroshima and back again. 300+ Km/hr makes the journey relatively quick and very comfortable. I note that the train accelerated up to cruising speed quite quickly.
@RS-nq8xk
@RS-nq8xk 4 роки тому
The N700 family has a launch acceleration comparable to Japanese commuter trains. (2.6km/h/s for the N700 family) Others are almost always below 2
@josfitz
@josfitz 3 роки тому
@@RS-nq8xk So the NYC Subway.
@rollingwithjoe7562
@rollingwithjoe7562 4 роки тому
I’m an engineer at Eurostar, and I can tell you that the french TMST is an amazing train. Considering it’s age (although been refurbished) is still going strong! It’s really weird working on such old technology then working on the new train, being the E320 Velaro.
@noth606
@noth606 4 роки тому
RollingWithJoe maybe but European high speed trains are completely irrelevant, no one I know has ever even seen one, and I live in Europe. But I have seen and traveled on the Shinkansen in Japan. So you are an engineer at something no one uses or gives a shit about except maybe the useless European Union authoritarian assholes.
@aminboumerdassi2334
@aminboumerdassi2334 4 роки тому
@@noth606 Eurostar's hub is in London and has only a select number of routes. That's probably why you've never seen it
@philv3941
@philv3941 4 роки тому
@@noth606 pure stupid trolling. Hi speed european trains are just the more exported in the world, far more than shinkansen. And if you come to france, germany and italy, fast train are everywhere. You are just coming from a shithole and judging the rest of the continent from there. Phil, Bordeaux. TGV line "atlantic". 320kmh. About ten departure a day to Paris.
@asicdathens
@asicdathens 4 роки тому
@@noth606 ukposts.info/have/v-deo/b5qVlppqpnuqk30.html UK-> Netherlands via the Channel Tunnel . It seems you have a very small number of acquaintances that do not travel because millions use TGV trains annually. And TGV is the fastest non magnetic levitation train
@jacobnathanielzpayag3885
@jacobnathanielzpayag3885 4 роки тому
@@philv3941 That is correct. European high speed trains are found everywhere. In fact, Alstom has the most market share for global high speed trains. The TGV has been exported to Morocco, and the US. Siemen's Velaro is in use in Russia and China. However, the Japanese Shinkansen has only been exported to Taiwan and China.
@uss_04
@uss_04 4 роки тому
I’d got for the Shinkansen just for the scenery. The TGV is fine but travels over a lot of flat farmland. Japan has those mountains and rolling hills when you break out of the urban centers, and once you get near Hakone, Mt. Fuji makes a great backdrop. Plus the engineering challenge for building in densely populated, mountainous, natural disaster prone geography is interesting in its own right.
@micbenner
@micbenner 4 роки тому
As if Mt Fuji wouldn't be covered in clouds...
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 4 роки тому
I'm torn personally, I can't really speak from that much experience of either, but I prefer the design of the TGV and AGV trains. In terms of which is the better system though, you'd probably have to give that to Japan...
@tomf3150
@tomf3150 4 роки тому
In France there aren't many tunnels on tgv lines and the trains simply slow down to 250 kph before. In Japan it makes sense to design the train to reduce the piston effect.
@uss_04
@uss_04 4 роки тому
MichaelBenner First time though yes it was covered in clouds but sometimes you luck out
@KyrilPG
@KyrilPG 4 роки тому
@@tomf3150 there are quite a few tunnels on the exit of Paris and other places but they are wider than in Japan and many of them have "progressive entries" or pressure relief shafts at both ends to avoid piston effect. They can and actually run at full speed in those tunnels. Also most of the full speed tunnel ends in France or Germany are further away from residential areas than in Japan. For all those reasons the Japanese "duck face" is less needed for full tunnel speed on TGVs or ICEs. However it is present on some of the Spanish AVEs.
@NonstopEurotrip
@NonstopEurotrip 4 роки тому
Check out my TGV Duplex and other high-speed train trip reports: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/fXeLbXyJkZ2lxX0.html
@RedSnake714
@RedSnake714 4 роки тому
The reason why Shinkansen is the best HSR in the world is because of the amount they invest in the system since there is so much demand for it. I travel for business between Tokyo and Osaka at least once a month, and in a train based society like Japan, riding the HSR is more convenient than flying in my opinion.
@danielhoffmann67
@danielhoffmann67 4 роки тому
That's the point: Japan is a country with a train based society. Therefore japanese train systems are the best and safest in the world. (My opinion :-) )
@josfitz
@josfitz 3 роки тому
@@danielhoffmann67 I'm laughing at this. To me its silly. One cannot take a Shinkansen in France and one cannot take a TGV or AGV in Japan so why all the contention.
@7667neko
@7667neko 3 роки тому
Boarding an aircraft (for a domestic flight) you have to go through check-in (if you have any larger baggage), security check and wait in a queue to board. Then flight, deplaning, taking baggage and going to the final destination by public transport/rented car/taxi/with a friend that picks you up/whatever. Boarding a train is just buying a ticket (if it hasn't been bought online or in advance), boarding, riding, deboarding and you're in the city centre/downtown or, at least, near it. And it's possible to take larger bags/suitcases without being charged for 1 mm oversize nor 0.1 kg overweight.
@jimelliott8931
@jimelliott8931 4 роки тому
that safety records is incredible
@NPJGlobal
@NPJGlobal 4 роки тому
The TGV also has a spotless safety record
@uwu_senpai
@uwu_senpai 4 роки тому
@@NPJGlobal Train is probably the safest mean of transportation anyway just in front of planes.
@bonfiresgt
@bonfiresgt 4 роки тому
@@NPJGlobal Not saying that TGV is dangerous or anything (statistically it's one of the safest transports), but the accident in 2015 did involve a derailment and 11 dead.
@allan2k195
@allan2k195 4 роки тому
Bonfire Sgt That train was not in public service, they were testing it
@bonfiresgt
@bonfiresgt 4 роки тому
​@@allan2k195 Depends on the definition of "immaculate safety record", but given that commission trials (unlike extreme performance trials) are expected to replicate service conditions and limits, the accident is probably not an exempt from the overall safety statistic. There are many train systems that have shown immaculate safety throughout testing, trials and service. TGV may have "immaculate in-service safety record" though.
@volkhen0
@volkhen0 4 роки тому
Love Shinkansen with the Rail Pass in Japan when you can use it as much as you want :) there is no better way to see Japan.
@halonothing1
@halonothing1 4 роки тому
Must be nice. I'd love to visit Japan some day. And compared to North American rates, a JR Pass is dirt cheap. Costs more for a bus pass in some places.
@adimasguntur
@adimasguntur 4 роки тому
Agreed XD Im using more than 20 trains in 3 days with that pass. Travelling edge to edge
@loodwich
@loodwich 4 роки тому
But you can not use the Nozomi, only the Hikaru or the Tamago.
@adimasguntur
@adimasguntur 4 роки тому
@@loodwich that is not a problem actually. Hikari and kodama covers all of the station. Just a bit slower and u have to make a transit, which is a good opportunity to go sightseeing
@loodwich
@loodwich 4 роки тому
@@adimasguntur For me is not a problem... The JR Pass is a good option to visit Japan as a tourist, I only wanted to clarify trouble that a lot of tourists had taken that line. I never took the Kodama, but I like the Hikaru.
@dorykbum
@dorykbum 4 роки тому
I got to enjoy the Shinkansen when I went to Japan in May/June and I tell ya it is the smoothest and quietest system ever, even better than the 787 Dreamliner and the Tesla Model Y
@MrJimheeren
@MrJimheeren 4 роки тому
dorkybum are you comparing a high speed train to an aircraft and an automobile? Interesting comparison
@dorykbum
@dorykbum 4 роки тому
In terms of ride comfort and audibleness yes I am
@kfl16
@kfl16 3 роки тому
dorkybum well it’s an airplane of course it’s gonna be better than an airplane in noisiness but in the 787 there are touchscreens
@dorykbum
@dorykbum 3 роки тому
@@kfl16 yes yes there is and it's awesome, luv the 787
@dorykbum
@dorykbum 3 роки тому
But my point was that inside the train it's alot quieter, tho the 787 is pretty quiet inside too
@HC-nj3bs
@HC-nj3bs 4 роки тому
You can recognize any great nation by its ability to accomplish long term project for the benefits of its people
@dinil5566
@dinil5566 3 роки тому
Yup here in India we have many long term projects. For example changing the broken door of a train. Takes more than 20 yrs. Great nation.
@diontan829
@diontan829 3 роки тому
@@dinil5566 at face value your comment is funny but a bit later i realized it's really sad
@dinil5566
@dinil5566 3 роки тому
@@diontan829 it is what it is... Hope it might change👍
@neetuchauhan636
@neetuchauhan636 3 роки тому
@@dinil5566 according to your comment it would have taken us 2 million years to build Worlds 3d largest railway network in world. Dont be so stupid while typing comments , you are defaming your country very badly. Peace out......
@dinil5566
@dinil5566 3 роки тому
@@neetuchauhan636why not 1st? Compared to China and usa, our land area is tiny and full of people. ever thought of that? Is our trains on time? Do they serve good quality service? Before calling me stupid, take a time to travel outside your country and compare how far they have gone compared to us. Defaming country? I'm defaming the system and government u idiot. It's not my fault that your can't even find out the difference.
@uss_04
@uss_04 4 роки тому
Its funny that people still call the Shinkansen “Bullet Trains” even though current models looks more like a flatten platypus. Goes to show how iconic those first designs were.
@Trucidek
@Trucidek 4 роки тому
Wasn't it named like this because of the line concept before the actual train was built?
@pakde8002
@pakde8002 4 роки тому
It's also kinda crazy they were designed by the same guy who made the Kamikaze plane bombs.
@Gribbo9999
@Gribbo9999 4 роки тому
Maybe "The Platypus Train" doesn't give quite the right impression. He he..
@Gribbo9999
@Gribbo9999 4 роки тому
Meanwhile on British Railways.....
@THETRIVIALTHINGS
@THETRIVIALTHINGS 4 роки тому
And how conditioning is a hard thing to break.
@flxdrv5020
@flxdrv5020 3 роки тому
one thing to take into account is that a trip with the Shinkansen is quite a bit more expensive than in the TGV. A trip in the Shinkansen from Tokyo to Osaka does 500km in 2hours cost you around 100€ second class and 200€ for the first class. Whereas a trip in TGV from Paris to Lyon does 465km in 1H50 cost you around 50€ second class and 60€ to 70€ for the first class (tho price varies a lot for the TGV you can often see tickers for those prices). so even tho the TGV is often not on time, it (imo) balances out with the cheaper price compared to the shinkansen.
@AshishSaxena01
@AshishSaxena01 4 роки тому
This video didn't told us whether the TGV or The Shinkansen is better, but it made me realise one thing... Trains are always nostalgic, amazing and the future.
@projjwalray-6341
@projjwalray-6341 3 роки тому
It is indeed so great to hear everything in Metric units. This video was indeed made with international audience in mind. Good work!
@Sergecalifornia
@Sergecalifornia 4 роки тому
The British were using steam train up to 1970..
@TheYawun
@TheYawun 4 роки тому
We invented the damn things we’ll use them as we see fit!!
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 4 роки тому
True but we still hold the Steam and Diesel speed records.
@aabb-zz9uw
@aabb-zz9uw 4 роки тому
They still use it on subway. You can see the video
@chickenpommes19
@chickenpommes19 4 роки тому
Most countries did tho.
@TankEngine75
@TankEngine75 4 роки тому
@@BruhThisMoment Steam Still Exists On Heritage Railways For Tourists And Steam Enthusiasts(I Mean Everyone)
@rollstuhlmeister
@rollstuhlmeister 4 роки тому
Meanwhile in the UK... 1960's: "We don't need trains, we need motorways" 2019: "We don't need high-speed rail, waste o' money" and "It will ruin my view"
@alexverdigris9939
@alexverdigris9939 4 роки тому
You need to promise your British public that the HS2 and HS3 will run only steam trains, then nobody will oppose the new lines being built. Then start operations with steam trains, say they're dirty and pollute, then gradually introduce 21st century HSR rolling stock. That's the only way to bypass the nimbys
@pierrepinson2906
@pierrepinson2906 4 роки тому
😂😂😂👎. Your train are old fashionable, not reliable, small inside. You need speed train. Cars and trucks polluted more your country.
@BronyumHexofloride
@BronyumHexofloride 4 роки тому
living on the route of HS1 is no sunshine and rainbows.. honestly the Hitachi class 395 is a great train with squandered potential "hmm lets use our state of the art trains to run services to areas where theyl be trashed in an instant".... *slow clap*
@richardwills-woodward5340
@richardwills-woodward5340 4 роки тому
@@pierrepinson2906 Different loading gauges. European railways were built for military purposes. UK railways were built for profit. The difference opened up there. The train will always be slightly smaller on the UK only network.
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 3 роки тому
@@alexverdigris9939 If cost is of such significant concern then I imagine a cheaper solution would be to install cab signalling on the West Coast Main Line? Then the existing _Pendelinos_ can hit their maximum speed
@Cleveland.Ironman
@Cleveland.Ironman 4 роки тому
Thank you, this is an excellent video and explanation of the growth of high speed rail.
@behnam1987v
@behnam1987v 4 роки тому
I just want to thank you for your magnificent channel it is very accurate ,reach in detail and you present it very well
@LoGaIta99
@LoGaIta99 4 роки тому
The AGV was sold to NTV in Italy, which is a private company. Trenitalia is the statal operator, which uses its high speed trains, called Frecciarossa.
@archlefirth2279
@archlefirth2279 4 роки тому
Yep. The AGV in Italy are known as the Italo trains which are the only privately run HSR lines in the world. Trenitalia uses Italian made trains for the Frecciarossa.
@mickeul16
@mickeul16 4 роки тому
@@archlefirth2279 Fun fact: Fiat Ferroviaria was bought by Alstom and now its name is Alstom Ferroviaria So the "Italian made train" is passed
@matsv201
@matsv201 4 роки тому
There is two frecciarosa. The 500 and the 1000. The 1000 series is a swedish/german zefiro train that is similar to the zefiro 380 used in china. Trenitalia also using pendalimo trains for lines that going over non upgraded track
@bossveendam
@bossveendam 4 роки тому
Thanks again Paul for this interesting information. Amazing to see that the Japanese bullet trains are SO safe AND fast. Great technology.
@lucrolland7489
@lucrolland7489 3 роки тому
I have ridden all the French TGVs on all routes since 1986 and I was always pleased by its comfort. The French TGVs are kore comfortable as they have more ergonomic seats (something that even the recent Hitachis delivered in the UK do not seem to understand). I have taken the TGV at Aix-en-Provence and 3h30 hours later I was entering the Charles-de-Gaulle Airport, a distance of 750 km and I could have a good price in first class where the seats are large and very ergonomic. I have never seen sych a pleasant ride. Even by plane you cannot beat that.
@alexandregoudard5641
@alexandregoudard5641 2 роки тому
French here: We are glad to have the TGV here and i think that the two trains have quite similar performances. But man TGV (and trains here) have always delays or reason to be canceled at the last minute. So Japan for the win (Cheers to all japenese, we love you guys)
@lazuardifirdaus1698
@lazuardifirdaus1698 4 роки тому
Shinkansen is super on-time train and have zero fatalities on major accident. That's Japanese Technology at finest
@duckmeat4674
@duckmeat4674 3 роки тому
You dont consider derailment a major accident?
@espakol21
@espakol21 3 роки тому
@@duckmeat4674 there is no derailment incident in any part of history in Japanese Shinkansen.. And there is only one fatality recorded on its history, an old woman that had a heart attack inside and went out dead in the 80s... That means its only fatality is for medical reasons and not because of an accident...
@duckmeat4674
@duckmeat4674 3 роки тому
@@espakol21 shinkansen has had 2 derailments en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Derailment_of_Joetsu_Shinkansen
@Kodnnkmpohn
@Kodnnkmpohn 3 роки тому
@@duckmeat4674 bro. Did you know wiki can edit??? 🤣🤣🤣
@TMthe33rd
@TMthe33rd 3 роки тому
Hey... at least no one died during the accident
@hinatamasaki9991
@hinatamasaki9991 4 роки тому
It's Chuo Shinkansen, not Chou. Chuo means central in Japanese by the way
@markkaidy8741
@markkaidy8741 4 роки тому
As in Chu Chu :) as we say in the States...:)
@archwaldo
@archwaldo 4 роки тому
It would have been better if it were Chou though, since it means "super" I think? Super Shinkansen sounds really catchy haha
@hinatamasaki9991
@hinatamasaki9991 4 роки тому
Jc Serquiña True, but Chou-Shinkansen sounds very unnatural. Also, you need a adjective after it to make sense. Just super shinkansen should be better (スーパー)
@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88
@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 4 роки тому
@@UberNoodle I thought I heard my name. No? My mistake. I'll see myself out now.
@Festivejelly
@Festivejelly 4 роки тому
Yeah but he's clearly not Japanese is he.
@SmokeyBCN
@SmokeyBCN 4 роки тому
TGV has a great record for safety, reliability and comfort. But it cannot be compared to the Shinkansen, which is in a league of its own in terms of punctuality and sheer number of services. At peak times they run every few minutes, more like a super fast metro.
@Clery75019
@Clery75019 3 роки тому
There are 13 TGV per hour between Paris and Lyon at peak times. It will be expanded to 16 trains per hour by 2024.
@GeneralGayJay
@GeneralGayJay 2 роки тому
The early boxy TGV is the sexiest train ever designed
@tjfSIM
@tjfSIM 3 роки тому
They are both amazing feats of engineering. I have been lucky enough to experience both and have to say I liked the interior of the TGV more, but the ride and sheer speed of the Shinkansen Nozomi was incredible. The interiors are styled like aircraft cabins, but consequently are a bit dark. I also found them a bit clinical, but that is a matter of personal taste. I wouldn't want to say one is better than the other; both fulfil a purpose and are tailored exactly to the transport needs of their respective countries. In terms of styling, I prefer the exterior design and shape of the TGV, but it is more conventional than the modern Shinkansen sets, which look more like toboggans than trains!
@Hunnars
@Hunnars 4 роки тому
Maybe the biggest difference between the two of them is that Shinkansen arrives and departs on time.
@pedrofigueiredo5548
@pedrofigueiredo5548 4 роки тому
yep , its ridiculous the delays in France , mostly announced last minute lol
@jeanfonssedeporte3158
@jeanfonssedeporte3158 4 роки тому
It depends on the line. I took the LGV East for 2 years, average of 5 time per months, and I only got like one or two big delays, and four or five 5 to 15 minutes delay. And well, most of the time, the SNCF (company operating the TGV) can barely do anything : criminal fire on the rails, suicide or a freight train blocked on the rail. But train departing from Montparnasse station, it's another story lol, some friends were delayed almost half the time
@danopticon
@danopticon 4 роки тому
I took the TGV from Paris to the south of France many times over the course of six-ish, eight-ish months. Fortunately, I‘d been warned beforehand to be on time, being told the TGV was punctual to a fault. I’d grown used to U.K. trains which, by contrast - even though the English have a reputation for punctuality - were run as if timetables were mere suggestions, hampering otherwise creative scheduling? While each time I took the TGV, sure enough… I could’ve set my watch by it! I usually went back north to Paris at a more leisurely pace, however, using just regular trains, so I don’t know so much about northbound TGV routes. Maybe it‘s less punctual going south to north? Or maybe you just took the TGV on an off-day?
@Hunnars
@Hunnars 4 роки тому
Guys, it's just a joke for Frenchies. we love to complain about our TGV but it'd be so difficult to travel without it :). There is a system in order to be reimbursed after 30 minutes of delay, I m not sure all trains companies apply that :P
@paname514
@paname514 4 роки тому
The biggest difference between the two of them is that the original TGVs still run everyday, whereas all the old Shinkansens have been scrapped. #Quality
@VapinicSZN
@VapinicSZN 4 роки тому
Love how you brought back the background music from the nuclear missile video at 2:33
@peters1127
@peters1127 4 роки тому
Thank You for an excellent video. Extremely informative and entertaining.
@jirikivaari
@jirikivaari 4 роки тому
Nice music! Good vibes! I was on shinkansen recently between Tokyo and Osaka, and its great train!
@offdagrid877
@offdagrid877 4 роки тому
Couldnt find a clean shirt for this one Paul? As allways great video, havn't seen this one so thanks for the re upload
@mattmovalson9684
@mattmovalson9684 4 роки тому
Love your videos! I have always been curious about how satellites maneuver in space and raise their orbit, could be an interesting video topic... Keep up the great work!
@oniwakamarukumano8328
@oniwakamarukumano8328 4 роки тому
お互いに意識し合って速い、安全、快適な列車を作ってくれたら嬉しいよね❗️
@user-hu7tj8su5r
@user-hu7tj8su5r 3 роки тому
いいえ
@fobbitoperator3620
@fobbitoperator3620 3 роки тому
Nah, I have to disagree on that point Mr Akihiro. Hexagonal wheels not only create substantially more coefficient drag & metal-on-metal friction, but also make for a torturously bumpy ride. There'd be some serious lawsuits due to unfathomably expensive spilled Saki, & sushi sticking to the ceiling. Nevermind random individuals getting accidentally impaled by flying designer titanium chop sticks. Perhaps dosing a rickshaw puller with a PCP, medical grade ephedrine cocktail, & a half gallon of Red Bull for a spritzer, would prove a more economical choice for the speed obsessed future. HAI
@The_TD5_Discovery
@The_TD5_Discovery 4 роки тому
Nice one, Paul. I do like the comparisons of modern technologies outside of the space industry. Regardless, thank you again for some great content.
@julien6805
@julien6805 4 роки тому
I tried Shinkansen for first time last week. It is a great train combined with its legendary punctuality, but inside it feels a bit like in a plane with these small windows. And you can hear a lot of rolling noise. I prefer the interior of the TGV which feels more comfy and it has big panoramic windows. Also it seems more quiet.
@flemmingsorensen5470
@flemmingsorensen5470 3 роки тому
Stunning designs, both of them - they are so impressive 👍
@johnnycharco
@johnnycharco 4 роки тому
Excellent vid, very informative.
@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle
@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle Рік тому
The Japanese trains look like spaceships, and the French trains look like 1980s sports cars. They are both awesome looking.
@PaliAha
@PaliAha Рік тому
The TGV looks dated.
@nakagawarem5729
@nakagawarem5729 Рік тому
TGV trains were heavily inspired by Sportscars because of their Aerodynamics but the Japanese Shinkansen took inspiration by airplanes
@envoyage6886
@envoyage6886 Рік тому
@@PaliAha Today TGVs do not look like this. You saw the first TGV trains that’s why
@PaliAha
@PaliAha Рік тому
@@envoyage6886 I went to Mont St Michel in 2019 from Paris via TGV.
@nleak92
@nleak92 3 роки тому
Both are incredible feats of engineering. I've been on the TGV and that was incredible, now my lifes dream is to ride the Shinkansen
@nigelrg1
@nigelrg1 Рік тому
I love Curious Droid videos. I've never used the Shinkansen, but have often used the TGV. It's amazing. You're doing 200 mph, but the train is so stable that you can get up and buy a coffee without reaching for a handhold. Now, French friends say that depends which line you're on 🙂
@nizam_mr
@nizam_mr 4 роки тому
For those who have plans to travel north in Tohoku region, try to hop on the Hayabusa E5/E6/H5. They are only-reservation trains, but Rail pass users can get reservations on them. The top speed on these are 320kmh.👍 Bonus to those heading to Akita, the train will split/detach at Morioka and travel slowly on local line in reverse till end station Akita(and viceversa) 👌
@metalblind95
@metalblind95 3 роки тому
Travelling in TGV is really great, the peak of comfort and convenience. Safe and quiet. Never been in a Shinkansen but I’d really like to! Hopefully I’ll be able to visit Japan soon
@sameerjain4423
@sameerjain4423 4 роки тому
The current world speed record for a thain on Steel Wheels on rails is held by the Alstom's TGV at speed 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph), achieved on 3 April 2007.
@tonyblackie3277
@tonyblackie3277 4 роки тому
Excellent summary thank you :)
@voynich548
@voynich548 4 роки тому
Impressive research, as usual!
@herrdrayer
@herrdrayer 3 роки тому
Having ridden both and several others, my conclusion is that the best high speed rail experience is a German ICE-3 on the French LGV Est. I rode a Shinkansen Series 700 in Nozomi service in 2007, and the spartan interiors seating 6 across with solid materials on floors, walls, and ceilings combined with my seat being directly above a traction motor meant that my bullet train ride was the loudest high speed rail experience of my life. Naturally, the "green car" or 1st class service provides a more spacious and quieter ride, though I did not splurge on tickets for that. I rode both the TGV and the ICE on the same line when I lived in Germany, and both consists provided a silky smooth ride at 200 MPH across the countryside of eastern France. Deutsche Bahn has not yet opened any 200-MPH high speed lines, so the only place to ride an ICE train faster than 186 MPH is on the French LGV Est. So, it really boils down to whether SNCF or Deutsche Bahn provides a more pleasant experience on board, and the German train wins hands down. The difference is in the dining car. The TGV's cafe' car serves plastic-wrapped sandwiches, candy, salty snacks, and a variety of bottled beverages, alcoholic and otherwise. On either side of the kitchenette are some high tables for passengers to stand around and enjoy their lackluster treats if they're not inclined to return to their seats and use the tray tables. Now that's one thing the French did well. The tray tables are on a separate column from the seats ahead, so no matter how hard you slam your tray table up or down, you won't disturb the passenger seated ahead of you. That comfort is negated by the slanted headrests, making napping a bit uncomfortable for tall passengers. Seriously, the tops of the seat backs are not level. It's dumb. Meanwhile, on board the ICE 3 that DB uses on the international services to Paris, the dining car has tables, a waiter, a printed menu that changes every month, and the changes are made by celebrity chefs. I once was running late to Gare de l'Est, and boarded the train less than a minute before the doors were closed for departure. As soon as I had found my seat and shown my ticket to the conductor, I walked straight to the dining car, plopped down in a cushy seat, ordered a fresh salad, a gourmet entree cooked on board, and a beer served in a proper glass, then proceeded to enjoy this lovely meal as the train clicked and clacked through the suburbs of Paris, entered the LGV, and accelerated to 200 MPH. There's no comparison really, from one who has also ridden high speed trains in Spain, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Italy. The best of all is a Deutsche Bahn ICE-3 in France.
@MaxPower-11
@MaxPower-11 4 роки тому
France’s high speed rail system has one huge advantage over the Japanese system in that the existing, pre-high-speed rail network was already in standard gauge. This allows TGV trains to enter city centers using the existing rail network. In Japan however, as mentioned in the video, the existing rail network uses a different gauge and thus trains from either network can’t use the other’s infrastructure. This makes providing high speed rail access into urban ares a much more complicated endeavor in Japan than in France.
@user-pd9zk6ee9x
@user-pd9zk6ee9x 7 місяців тому
日本は既存の規格が小さいのもそうですがそもそも土地が狭く騒音のことも考慮しなくてはならずどんなに優れていても多少妥協などが見えたりするかもですね
@scottnathens6377
@scottnathens6377 3 роки тому
nicely done; appreciate the historical perspective; very interested in the cut-off point (3 or 4 hours?) when air travel becomes a better option.
@matprlz
@matprlz 4 роки тому
L-waves are the most significant and damaging waves after an earthquake rupture. Loved this video! 👏 amazing work!
@matthewneleigh567
@matthewneleigh567 4 роки тому
Rock Island had the Rockets, but the Zephyr was from the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy.
@bcpyc
@bcpyc 3 роки тому
Great video. Just a friendly reminder that it’s the “Chuo (pronounced Chu-ō”) Shinkansen”. Chuo in Japanese means “central”.
@rajeshvaidya3659
@rajeshvaidya3659 4 роки тому
Very informative video. I lived in Japan for 15 years and now started tour company call hikari-partners to take tours to Japan. I take JR pass and give an opportunity to my clients to explore great rail network. They just love it.
@lukedstaten
@lukedstaten 4 роки тому
I am so glad you converted KPH to MPH. It confused me so much, but it helps significantly to add the conversions, thank you.
@vilvamvilvam538
@vilvamvilvam538 4 роки тому
Shinkansen without doubt .......I like Shinkansen because untill today Nobody killed in an accident and it helps developing countries to develop high speed train lines....
@emnergyofficial4789
@emnergyofficial4789 3 роки тому
Well the only TGV accident with dead people was during a test session in overspeed so..
@Ngspacetrain
@Ngspacetrain 3 роки тому
a "test"
@svis6888
@svis6888 2 роки тому
@@Ngspacetrain yes a test
@Yep6803
@Yep6803 2 роки тому
@@emnergyofficial4789 Trenitalia(we are the only one rival actually) too
@Praxics0815
@Praxics0815 4 роки тому
I haven't travelled on the TGV. But I travelled on the Shinkansen. Personally I think it is less about the trains and more about the service. I don’t know about the French service but the Japanese is unlike anything I used to know in terms of punctuality. During my stay in Japan I used the trains quite heavily as I purchased the Japanese Rail Pass. Only once was a train late. Usually they arrive on the second. That is absolutely astonishing. It was also super easy to switch trains and lanes as you would never miss a connection.
@Qual_
@Qual_ 4 роки тому
Well, I'm french and can say that the punctuality is FAR from beeing as reliable ( and already perfect ? ) as the Japanese Shinkansen. Oh, and TGV cost an arm if you don't purchase your ticket 3 months ahead ( can be as low as 15€ 3 month prior your travel, and as expensive as 180€ for the same travel, but when you purchase the ticket a day before )
@goddamnit452
@goddamnit452 4 роки тому
In france the TGV allows you to connect with other countries which is great. Cutting down the cost compared to a plane and allows higher luggage capacity compared to planes limitation on luggages. Sometimes low cost are cheaper and faster sometimes train are cheaper depending on the booking time and how far you intend to travel. I did France Rennes-Lyon-Swiss Lausanne-UK London-italy. Tgv in first class is a good experience but 2nd class is bad..no leg space. Also isolation in it is lesser then the shinkansen. Added there is tiefts that wants to snatch your suitcase. Punctuality, the TGV in Paris is always delayed and suffer a lot from strikes and suicides on the lines. But overall its still a beauty of technology. While when i went in Japan. The train was considerably more expensive for me then the TGV. But the comfort, punctuality, clean environment and sound isolation made up the price. This is greatly due to the people education, respect and behavior. Not saying french or others behave badly. But you do have more often bad experience over there then in japan. Went 2 in japan, loved it. I go every year in europe to travel for holidays as a photographer. And the hassle free experience of a train is miles better then planes for me. I have the patience to sit down 10h of trains instead of taking a plane for 3h.
@ala0284
@ala0284 4 роки тому
I haven’t been on the Shinkansen, but I can say that I imagine the service is much better than the TGV. The service in France is ok, but nothing special, but really it’s the price that makes the TGV great, it’s really quite cheap, compared certainly to the bullet train.
@tieck4408
@tieck4408 4 роки тому
A German friend of mine once received a wooden box of fine chocolates from the train service as an apology for a severely delayed train. It arrived in the mail and we sat there eating chocolates and wondering which of the many delays it might have been. The situation is better in France, but not by much. TGV is often late.
@trainride8332
@trainride8332 3 роки тому
Great Video. I plan to go to Japan next year and check out the Shinkansen. Great futuristic design. Love it!
@nopomegranates1876
@nopomegranates1876 4 роки тому
Absolutely, France and Japan did a top notch job for high speed train innovations! I live in Texas, and there are plans to make a bullet train connecting Dallas to Houston, using the Japanese shinkansen! Just goes to show how well they've mastered the bullet train!
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 4 роки тому
To match ALL the color of pickups I saw on my last drive across the state, they should make one black & one white
@sc5252
@sc5252 4 роки тому
Dallas to Houston HSR? Wait long long time
@iPlayOnSpica
@iPlayOnSpica Рік тому
My concerns with the Texas HSR lie not in the technology but in the service, punctuality, and cleanliness. In my experience with American public transportation, these three areas have generally been C+ tier at best, usually a C- or D+ (I reckon Chicago and New York would be in the F tier). I really think it's just not in the culture, which is why I usually drive and keep to myself whenever I'm in the States.
@themax9913
@themax9913 3 роки тому
Both have a very good safety record and in comparison to most countries, the punctuality and service provided is excellent. There isn’t a better train than another, they both perform admirably at their tasks.
@TheExoplanetsChannel
@TheExoplanetsChannel 4 роки тому
Great video. I wish one day I can travel in a magnetic train.
@stlkngyomom
@stlkngyomom 4 роки тому
That's like so 19th-20th century mindset. Consider using(room temperatures superconducting nanocarbon fibre...)space elevator to explore deepest recesses of the solar system in weeks/months instead of years(only problem is slowing down...;) Personally,cheaply and in a egologically positive manner. Of course you can do that,and much more via meditation,lucid dreaming,remote viewing,...(Edgar Cayce,Jeffrey Mishlove,Tom Campbell,etc). But nothing beats flying through the rings of Saturn and seeing it with your own eyes. P.S.I've elaborated on this comment below(read at your own risk;).
@gIozell1
@gIozell1 4 роки тому
stlkngyomom sorry what?
@waminette
@waminette 4 роки тому
stlkngyomom excuse me?
@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs
@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs 4 роки тому
You can like me. Shanghai has a Chinese version of the German developed Transrapid MAGLEV. There is no track sound or track wear, the track is completely elevated so does not separate communities and roads. The acceleration and deacceleration is so much greater and smoother the journey times are greatly reduced. Acceleration is more important than speed.
@matsv201
@matsv201 4 роки тому
They are currently planing to start building one in Washington next year. If nothing change you can ride it with in 10 years. They are also planing to build a additional maglev track in Shanghai.. And of cause the one in Japan is also being built. If you are land bound to Europe.. it would seam like you are out of luck for now
@aqsdfg25
@aqsdfg25 3 роки тому
The main point with high speed train in France is that it's quicker than the plane for inner flights. With the TGV you go from downtown to downtown, with plane you have to connect from the airports to the city. Train is time and pollution saving, and you can use internet in the train and also avoid humiliating body search at the airport
@flippert0
@flippert0 3 роки тому
This is a very informative video depicting the history of high-speed railway and in particular its development in two countries. Big thank you! Ironically, it doesn't answer the question posed in the video's title :-)
@nERVEcenter117
@nERVEcenter117 4 роки тому
Got to experience the Shinkansen in 2007. Very, very impressive system. And for Japan's ridiculous density, it makes a load of sense. No wonder it was jam-packed with customers.
@Niaaal
@Niaaal 4 роки тому
Man, thank you for making these videos with always cool topics and stellar content. It's truly appreciated!
@EsperRanger
@EsperRanger 3 роки тому
I rode the shinkansen from Osaka to the Mt Fuji area back in 2006. Absolutely amazing and smooth. At one point we were going around a banked turn and I didn't know it until I saw the water in my glass sitting at an angle. My window was showing dirt rushing by and the opposite side of the carriage was showing sky. Wow!
@RickyJr46
@RickyJr46 4 роки тому
I've ridden the Paris - Lyon - Milan TGV on several occasions, it's smooth and fast with very low noise. In Italy, I found the Frecciarossa and Italo NTV were likewise excellent trains. All of these operated at the 300 km/h (186 mph) limit for extended distances. The Eurostar had somewhat uncomfortable side sway in the last car at speed. Riding the Shinkansen is very high on my wish list.
@paname514
@paname514 4 роки тому
10:08 Prototype 01 "Patrick" built 1978 still runs in regular service in 2019! Hurry up to see this amazing historic train before it is retired soon!
@chinwokeedeh9384
@chinwokeedeh9384 3 роки тому
I don't know what to say? The Japanese Shinkansen and the French TGV are both very awasome, safe and legendary high speed express trains. I love them both!!!
@Ronnymikkonen2686
@Ronnymikkonen2686 3 роки тому
Thanks for the metrics! I'm not antique, so I was also pleased to grasp the numbers! Metrics only!
@robertlucdf
@robertlucdf 4 роки тому
Très bien documenté!
@Sergecalifornia
@Sergecalifornia 4 роки тому
The British using steam train. The Japanese and the French was using high-speed train already. like the documentary said. the French were using The Electric high-speed train since the 1950s. Not the(tgv)
@zadarthule
@zadarthule 4 роки тому
ST-ES-AEG Versuchstriebwagen 27. Okt.1903 210,3 km/h. Electic powered trains are just superior.
@MrXBT2000
@MrXBT2000 4 роки тому
"No fatal accidents" is uttered by a man seemingly standing between the safety fence and a moving train at 5:32
@AA-tz2bm
@AA-tz2bm 4 роки тому
X-BT it’s a back ground
@MrXBT2000
@MrXBT2000 4 роки тому
Hence the word "seemingly". It was merely a comment applauding the perfect choice of background and positioning of the speaker for that sentence. Would have loved to see it with the speaker casually leaning on a hand rail positioned to overlap perfectly with the one in the background clip.
@Tom55data
@Tom55data 3 роки тому
I caught a shinkansen from Tokyo to Osaka and then on a local train to scientific site. There was a 2 minute change at Osaka which I questioned as being "crazy" after a 400 mile journey as the train could be late; my Japanese colleague looked confused. Needless to say, the train pulled into Osaka to the second, I walked across the platform onto the local train, and it left precisely on time.
@party4lifedude
@party4lifedude 4 роки тому
In a perfect world you would upload videos every day
@militaryav8r
@militaryav8r 4 роки тому
5:29 For a quick second I thought "Man, that ain't safe. He's on the wrong side of the guardrail!"
@fedomandez
@fedomandez 4 роки тому
The big goal of AGV is that as it was sold to a private company (NTV) it broke the Trenitalia monopoly on italian railroads
@Rebasepoiss
@Rebasepoiss 4 роки тому
Yup, wanted to make that same correction myself. By the way, NTV was the first private high speed rail operator in Europe.
@desertlightning7335
@desertlightning7335 2 роки тому
I would love to see and ride one of these. That engineering is incredible
@Matt-lz6nx
@Matt-lz6nx 4 роки тому
great video, is like to suggest that you could make a video on the BR APT train
@eannamcnamara9338
@eannamcnamara9338 3 роки тому
I love the shinkzansen but as i grew up in France, and was quite the Thomas the tank engine fan, so to me i will always love the TGV more than any other train.
@Daddy-Samy
@Daddy-Samy 3 роки тому
I would like to say that I've ridden both of those on multiple times (living in France and usual trip to Japan) The japanese train, despite using older technology looks newer, cleaner, and has a much better service, there is also a wagoon for make up, cleaning, toilets, and a smoking very well ventilated area. The speed is just similar, so for the reasons above, taking the shinkansen has always been a much better ride for me as a regular customer.
@adamoneale4396
@adamoneale4396 4 роки тому
Some really catchy names. The DRG Class SVT 877 Hamburg Flyer is my favourite
@B4R0N.
@B4R0N. 3 роки тому
Been on the TGV a few times. Smooth ride, silent, comfy, you barely feel any acceleration but if you look out the window, you realize you're doing 300kph. I keep hearing/reading marvels about the Shinkansen. Gotta ride in it one day!
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